Patented Phil 1,469 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Anddddd here's where you're wrong 100% If ANYONE, regardless of color, speaks like that, I will immediately view them as not very intelligent. You are bringing race into it, and using race to apologize for it, and you shouldn't be. If my white kid talked like that, I'd correct it...quickly. And hes WHITE! Youre wrong on this issue Peenie. 100% And you're wrong because you're turning it into a racial issue. Perfectly stated. I love Lamar Jackson. He’s been my favorite football player since I first saw him at Louisville. But he talks in broken English, and it makes him sound uneducated and not all that interested in changing. It has nothing to do with him being black. I expect the same from everyone - regardless of color. To give him a pass because of “culture” is the actual racism going on here - “the soft bigotry of low expectations.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,117 Posted January 17 Pikey Mikey sounds ignorant. I note taht I am descended from Irish travelers, not Gypsy or Roma, but Irish Travelers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,794 Posted January 17 10 minutes ago, Patented Phil said: Perfectly stated. I love Lamar Jackson. He’s been my favorite football player since I first saw him at Louisville. But he talks in broken English, and it makes him sound uneducated and not all that interested in changing. It has nothing to do with him being black. I expect the same from everyone - regardless of color. To give him a pass because of “culture” is the actual racism going on here - “the soft bigotry of low expectations.” Boom...Exactly Jesse Jackson's point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted January 17 1 hour ago, peenie said: There is someone here who calls him clownzo and that is just so funny to me. You know, though, Trump himself is a funny guy. He says stuff off the cuff that at first sounds a little off or mean, but later, I'm like, that was correct and smart. Example: Fake News Got it. So it's ok to make fun of certain people and it's subjective based on your own personal beliefs. Does that mean people would be justified in calling you a bigot then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted January 17 27 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: That is how I feel about Jameis Winston. Functionally retarded but they can throw/run fast so who cares how smart they are. Wait a minute there... you think that if someone says, "I just hope that God delivers me from all of these Pick-6's, because that's not who I am", that they're not a smart person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,896 Posted January 17 13 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Got it. So it's ok to make fun of certain people and it's subjective based on your own personal beliefs. Does that mean people would be justified in calling you a bigot then? I think there is a difference. It's like calling a black person a big-lipped ape or a chinese person ching-chong. You know? Saying Lamar is dumb or hasn't graduated kindergarten is like an old stereotype about blacks and we're all more sophisticated these days. Clownzo has no reference to anything except Trump's hair and behavior and the person's ill feelings towards him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, peenie said: I think there is a difference. It's like calling a black person a big-lipped ape or a chinese person ching-chong. You know? Saying Lamar is dumb or hasn't graduated kindergarten is like an old stereotype about blacks and we're all more sophisticated these days. Clownzo has no reference to anything except Trump's hair and behavior and the person's ill feelings towards him. Of course there's a (D)iffrence, we already knew that. LOL The problem is that your (D)ifference is contrived. No one mentioned anything about race except you and the board jester. You chose to insert your opinions into someone else's and accused them of something they weren't intending. What you did was akin to blaming your boyfriend (or husband), for cheating on you... in your dream, and holding him accountable for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,896 Posted January 17 Okay, fair. Just my opinion then. Be better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,794 Posted January 17 30 minutes ago, peenie said: I think there is a difference. It's like calling a black person a big-lipped ape or a chinese person ching-chong. You know? Saying Lamar is dumb or hasn't graduated kindergarten is like an old stereotype about blacks and we're all more sophisticated these days. Clownzo has no reference to anything except Trump's hair and behavior and the person's ill feelings towards him. So if a white QB spoke like that, and Ed posted a thread calling him dumb and uneducated---that would be OK. because he isn't saying it about a black guy? You are making no sense. Stop apologizing for this. You be better. Ask for more from people. This guy is one kids look up to. Want to emulate. You think it's OK for a kid to take that speech pattern and adopt it cause his football hero does? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted January 17 3 hours ago, peenie said: What black men are those?? Btw, you're trying to change the subject. I’m not. Lamar Jackson’s sounds like an idiot when he talks about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 17 Can someone share a video of where Lamar Jackson sounds stupid? I've heard him talk, he has a "black" accent but that doesn't make him sound stupid, unless you're a racist of course. Like did he ever get someone's name wrong or get confused on how magnets work or talk in circles and tell stories about sharks and batteries? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,738 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Can someone share a video of where Lamar Jackson sounds stupid? It's not that he sounds stupid BOYO, it's that he is stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted January 17 Just now, Maximum Overkill said: It's not that he sounds stupid BOYO, it's that he is stupid. What makes him stupid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,738 Posted January 17 Just now, TrailGuy said: What makes him stupid? His IQ One of the lowest Wonderlic scores in human history 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted January 17 35 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Can someone share a video of where Lamar Jackson sounds stupid? I've heard him talk, he has a "black" accent but that doesn't make him sound stupid, unless you're a racist of course. Like did he ever get someone's name wrong or get confused on how magnets work or talk in circles and tell stories about sharks and batteries? I do t think he sounded that great when he said his uncle was eaten by cannibals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted January 17 It’s undeniable that he is throwing the ball much better than earlier in his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s undeniable that he is throwing the ball much better than earlier in his career. back to back to back MVPs and 0 Super Bowls? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 317 Posted January 17 I think Lamar is genius compared to people that use words like Boyo and Clownzo. Those are the true dumb arses. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,940 Posted January 17 46 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Can someone share a video of where Lamar Jackson sounds stupid? I've heard him talk, he has a "black" accent but that doesn't make him sound stupid, unless you're a racist of course. Like did he ever get someone's name wrong or get confused on how magnets work or talk in circles and tell stories about sharks and batteries? Which, of course, is why this thread was started, as the OP and many others here think that anyone who talks with a black dialect is dumb or stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,554 Posted January 17 21 hours ago, squistion said: Fun Fact: He has started only one thread about an NFL player being dumb and that player is black, reinforcing the "blacks are dumb, ignorant unintelligent stereotype meme" we have seen. Dude. Do you realize that you are the one being racist here? You're basically saying you aren't allowed to call a black person dumb unless you also call a white person dumb first. That is extremely biased. You are being the prime example of a racist person trying not to be racist, but you just don't know how. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,554 Posted January 17 18 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: This is short sided. Whatever you think of my liberal ideas, around 49% of voters preferred them in the last election. Don’t kid yourself that they’re dead. Actually I firmly believe that most woke ideas are inevitable and will come to be accepted in the years and decades to come, including by you. You just don’t realize it now. They are inevitable until the sh¡t hits the fan and we find ourselves in a fight with China or some other future power. All our lives have been lived a million times before. History repeats. The Romans were disciplined, strong, and smart and built an empire. Then they got complacent and distracted and assimilated cultures not loyal to Rome and their empire fell just like what's happening now. We have another century at least though, I'd say. You'll scoff, of course, but while you're scoffing, remember your team's track record on covid, inflation, the border, etc. Your team sucks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 317 Posted January 17 26 minutes ago, squistion said: Which, of course, is why this thread was started, as the OP and many others here think that anyone who talks with a black dialect is dumb or stupid. Do you speak with a black dialect? I think you're stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,554 Posted January 18 And since when does the Ft Lauderdale area where Lamar grew have a "regional dialect?" I had family in that area for decades. Also here is the very poor area Lamar played high school football and as such couldn't be expected to learn grammar. Amazing he survived. https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=567ab18d067741e3&rlz=1C1GCGB_enUS1141US1141&sxsrf=ADLYWIL1sDLOv7FgSB8bghj69XP0Xecd-Q:1737158841694&q=boynton+beach+fl&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0Aa4sjWe7Rqy32pFwRj0UkW1DRbm01j6DCVS0r1sTxn7h_rt6mVhwDmwtd3hPZjM8xOYJM4hmmrxWbUY3sD5VWIMokj2y_vGi8fBpFPuBNa8hz4Li0jj_jR95F_P7TRXoz1_1czWVCK2r7AVMe-2AJv68T3e8ks-FkqvSCyKg_VRMpSDaAtUyNGf11siL50Sb-jeqHuPOTj28B3ejbm7-I1baovHQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjx0LX9_P2KAxWHGDQIHUQ7BGwQtKgLegQICRAB&biw=1920&bih=1031&dpr=1&safe=active&ssui=on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,940 Posted January 18 31 minutes ago, nobody said: Dude. Do you realize that you are the one being racist here? You're basically saying you aren't allowed to call a black person dumb unless you also call a white person dumb first. That is extremely biased. You are being the prime example of a racist person trying not to be racist, but you just don't know how. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, nobody said: And since when does the Ft Lauderdale area where Lamar grew have a "regional dialect?" I had family in that area for decades. Also here is the very poor area Lamar played high school football and as such couldn't be expected to learn grammar. Amazing he survived. https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=567ab18d067741e3&rlz=1C1GCGB_enUS1141US1141&sxsrf=ADLYWIL1sDLOv7FgSB8bghj69XP0Xecd-Q:1737158841694&q=boynton+beach+fl&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0Aa4sjWe7Rqy32pFwRj0UkW1DRbm01j6DCVS0r1sTxn7h_rt6mVhwDmwtd3hPZjM8xOYJM4hmmrxWbUY3sD5VWIMokj2y_vGi8fBpFPuBNa8hz4Li0jj_jR95F_P7TRXoz1_1czWVCK2r7AVMe-2AJv68T3e8ks-FkqvSCyKg_VRMpSDaAtUyNGf11siL50Sb-jeqHuPOTj28B3ejbm7-I1baovHQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjx0LX9_P2KAxWHGDQIHUQ7BGwQtKgLegQICRAB&biw=1920&bih=1031&dpr=1&safe=active&ssui=on My parents had a place in Boynton Beach for years. Ain’t no hood there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 575 Posted January 18 On 1/17/2025 at 9:49 AM, peenie said: Because everything about him other than the way he speaks is smart. Dumbass. If someone shoved a camera and a microphone in your face asking you about the job you did and the mistakes you made and about your life, I doubt you'd sound interesting or coherent. Who gives a crap about being interesting? And if you aren't coherent, you''re either Nancy Pelosi level drunk or stupid. That has nothing in the world to do with racism, "dumbass". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,738 Posted January 18 2 hours ago, nobody said: Dude. Do you realize that you are the one being racist here? You're basically saying you aren't allowed to call a black person dumb unless you also call a white person dumb first. That is extremely biased. You are being the prime example of a racist person trying not to be racist, but you just don't know how. @squistion is spreading racist hate and divide. He goes out of his way looking for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,117 Posted January 18 2 hours ago, nobody said: They are inevitable until the sh¡t hits the fan and we find ourselves in a fight with China or some other future power. All our lives have been lived a million times before. History repeats. The Romans were disciplined, strong, and smart and built an empire. Then they got complacent and distracted and assimilated cultures not loyal to Rome and their empire fell just like what's happening now. We have another century at least though, I'd say. You'll scoff, of course, but while you're scoffing, remember your team's track record on covid, inflation, the border, etc. Your team sucks. You are more optimistic than am I. I doubt we have 20 years. Our once independant, warrior, cowboy culture is now a bunch of bleeding heart, men visiting spas and salons instead of saloons, pussified culture begging to be overthrown. I call our curent predicament the Schocheting of America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: You are more optimistic than am I. I doubt we have 20 years. Our once independant, warrior, cowboy culture is now a bunch of bleeding heart, men visiting spas and salons instead of saloons, pussified culture begging to be overthrown. I call our curent predicament the Schocheting of America. That’s just an awesome post right there. Kudos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,896 Posted January 18 Bottom line: He has a dialect that was created by the surroundings he was born into through no fault of his own. He’s not dumb because he hasn’t made dumb choices in life. She sounds smarter than a lot of you: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DECBSHKoCtR/?igsh=NXVwb3VqNDM0bXNm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,738 Posted January 18 Just now, peenie said: Bottom line: He has a dialect that was created by the surroundings he was born into through no fault of his own. He’s not dumb because he hasn’t made dumb choices in life. Sits sounds smarter than a lot of you: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DECBSHKoCtR/?igsh=NXVwb3VqNDM0bXNm Except he's not smart. You don't have to make excuses because he's black. Stupid sees no color Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,896 Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: Except he's not smart. You don't have to make excuses because he's black. Stupid sees no color Your insecurity is showing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,738 Posted January 18 1 minute ago, peenie said: Your insecurity is showing. Hey Kid, my Mother is black and I speak "Southern". No crutches!!!!! Lamar is dumb, his wonderlic score is amongst the worst of all time. It's ok to say it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,794 Posted January 18 I think peenies point is you can never call a black person dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,896 Posted January 18 Apparently there are different 9 types of human intelligence: Naturalistic, Musical, Logical–mathematical, Existential, Interpersonal, Linguistic, Bodily–kinaesthetic, Intra–personal and Spatial intelligence. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,738 Posted January 18 5 minutes ago, supermike80 said: I think peenies point is you can never call a black person dumb. Which is totally demeaning and disrespectful to any ethnicity. To think that someone can't be dumb BECAUSE OF THEIR COLOR is racist within itself. It's like calling someone a thug. A thug is a thug, why can't you call a person of color a thug? @peenie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted January 18 30 minutes ago, supermike80 said: I think peenies point is you can never call a black person dumb. Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,590 Posted January 18 On 1/16/2025 at 8:42 PM, nobody said: So a quick google search revealed that 53% of players in the NFL are black, so if edjr starts one thread about a player being dumb, there should be about a 53% chance that it would be about a black player. Now if he started 5 threads about players being dumb, and they all happened to be about black players, the chance of that happening organically would be about 4%. That's probably when I'd start thinking he's racist. Did a quick search on threads started by @edjr calling NFL players dumb or stupid and could only find one specific to QB’s, where he called Cam Newton the dumbest QB in the draft. He’s started threads ripping on white QB’s but not about their intelligence that I could find. Closest I could find about a white NFL player being stupid was a thread on Mike Vanderjagt “the idiot kicker” but that was basically his nickname In terms of NFL players as a whole he’s apparently called multiple NFL players (both black) who died dumb. The one below is about Marquise Hill (which he started the thread on), and in the thread about Sean Taylor’s death which he didn’t start he said: “Think this will change any of the other thug idiots in the NFL or NBA? of course not, they are invincible. ” On 4/29/2011 at 9:20 AM, edjr said: Worst team in the NFL drafts possibly the dumbest QB in the draft. Who the fock is running these teams and drafts? Did they not see Scam when he sat down with Chucky Gruden On 5/28/2007 at 6:10 PM, edjr said: F-ing idiot. Ohhh. I'm in the NFL, I'm invincible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,590 Posted January 18 On 7/9/2015 at 8:49 AM, edjr said: TWO players in the NFL blew off fingers during July 4th with fireworks. Out of the 4 major sports, NFL players are easily the dumbest. NBA are not far behind. Does it have anything to do with how long they go to college or that they don't really even go to real classes when they actually go to college? From dumbest to smartest NFL NBA MLB NHL On 7/9/2015 at 8:53 AM, hoytdwow said: Basically the rankings from black to white. Just sayin On 7/9/2015 at 9:00 AM, edjr said: NBA has more than the NFL, no? But yeah, your point has merit. On 7/9/2015 at 1:03 PM, edjr said: What color is Richie Incognito? or Riley Cooper? it's not only about race @edjr also started this thread, agreeing with a different poster that the sports leagues with the most black players were the most stupid. But then backtracked by saying Richie Incognito was stupid too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,505 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: I think peenies point is you can never call a black person dumb. She’s anti-redundancy? You’re taking it too far… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites