Republicans introduce amendment so trump can get third term

[Ron_Artest 2,148]

13 minutes ago, Strike said:

What?  You need to clarify your numbers.  You're just pulling numbers out of your butt with no explanation where they're coming from.  When you say 50% chance he loses you're suggesting he's running again which I don't think you are since he can't run again.  But even thinking there's a 5% chance he succeeds in serving a third term is nuts.  

You're right I am, so are all of us.

50% chance of Democrat winning in 2028, assumption.

If a democrat wins, I believe he will pull shenanigans to stop that, like he did before.  10% chance the succeeds in staying in, assumption.

.50x.10 = .05

 

[seafoam1 3,401]

18 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I like the fine people of Oklahoma. Some congressman trying to keep his cushy gig at all costs…not so much.

Tell me a state in which a congressman doesn't want to keep his cushy gig? 

[SaintsInDome2006 610]

36 minutes ago, Strike said:

What?  You need to clarify your numbers.  You're just pulling numbers out of your butt with no explanation where they're coming from.  When you say 50% chance he loses you're suggesting he's running again which I don't think you are since he can't run again.  But even thinking there's a 5% chance he succeeds in serving a third term is nuts.  

Let’s phrase it this way: if Trump thinks he can do it, like actually be permitted to run, would he do it?

[Strike 5,975]

8 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Let’s phrase it this way: if Trump thinks he can do it, like actually be permitted to run, would he do it?

We know he doesn't think that.

[seafoam1 3,401]

5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Let’s phrase it this way: if Trump thinks he can do it, like actually be permitted to run, would he do it?

If the structure changes to our system, who knows? Maybe, maybe not. Why does that even matter though? Harris ran for president without even having to go through a primary. 

I don't know why liberals didn't go full on rebellion to that. They may or may have not voted for her, but that is simply accepting the process. Now liberals are going full on stupid with TRUMP THE DICTATOR!!! 

Time to take a chill pill.

[SaintsInDome2006 610]

7 minutes ago, Strike said:

We know he doesn't think that.

Based on his public comments?

[Ron_Artest 2,148]

14 minutes ago, Strike said:

We know he doesn't think that.

He was asked yesterday, he said he hadn't thought about it.  He didn't say "I can't".  He said he would love to it, and he hasn't ruled it out.  He even said he would be allowed to run as VP.

 

 

[seafoam1 3,401]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

He was asked yesterday, he said he hadn't thought about it.  He didn't say "I can't".  He said he would love to it, and he hasn't ruled it out.  He even said he would be allowed to run as VP.

I hope so. 

[thegeneral 3,549]

41 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Tell me a state in which a congressman doesn't want to keep his cushy gig? 

Right. They all want to keep their gigs. 

[Grace Under Pressure 156]

He's going to try, and MAGA is going to defend those attempts. LMAO at MAGA already twisting themselves into pretzels over it.

The only correct answer is that he's not allowed to. Suck it up. Like a poster said a page or two back, we'll see MAGA defending any and all attempts soon enough.

Also, because the question came up. Cults have one leader, and then it has its gullible followers that worship that leader. The leader and the followers is what makes it a cult. Do an ounce of research on cults and cult behavior before asking such a naive question. 

[MDC 7,826]

Don isn’t even a year into his term and buyer’s remorse + Trump fatigue have already set it. I wouldn’t worry about a 3rd term, fellas.

[Tree of Knowledge 2,100]

51 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You're right I am, so are all of us.

50% chance of Democrat winning in 2028, assumption.

If a democrat wins, I believe he will pull shenanigans to stop that, like he did before.  10% chance the succeeds in staying in, assumption.

.50x.10 = .05

 

 

 

 

[Tree of Knowledge 2,100]

We should not hold another presidential election until we are certain the malfeasance we saw in 2020 can never be duplicated. If that takes us a decade, so be it.  

[seafoam1 3,401]

11 minutes ago, MDC said:

Don isn’t even a year into his term and buyer’s remorse + Trump fatigue have already set it. I wouldn’t worry about a 3rd term, fellas.

Sounds like it's you idiots are the ones who are "fatigued".

I'm loving this, pigboy.  Oink. 

[Ron_Artest 2,148]

22 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

We should not hold another presidential election until we are certain the malfeasance we saw in 2020 can never be duplicated. If that takes us a decade, so be it.  

Yup, this could be an argument for why he stays in power.  Who's gonna stop him?

[SaintsInDome2006 610]

25 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

We should not hold another presidential election until we are certain the malfeasance we saw in 2020 can never be duplicated. If that takes us a decade, so be it.  

And there it is. Just curious, have you seen this floated or discussed online or on tv/radio, etc? TIA.

[Tree of Knowledge 2,100]

2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

And there it is. Just curious, have you seen this floated or discussed online or on tv/radio, etc? TIA.

Just people in my Think Tank.  

[jerryskids 7,053]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

He was asked yesterday, he said he hadn't thought about it.  He didn't say "I can't".  He said he would love to it, and he hasn't ruled it out.  He even said he would be allowed to run as VP.

 

 

That's your evidence?  He makes the one comment about how he hadn't thought about it, 15 seconds talking about his poll numbers and ending wars, then 2 of the 3 minutes propping up Marco and JD as great candidates, and calling Crockett and AOC low-IQ.  In the end someone asked about him being VP, and he said "I could do that, but it would be tricky and the people wouldn't want it."

That sure sounds like a guy planning to end around they system to remain king.   

26 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Yup, this could be an argument for why he stays in power.  Who's gonna stop him?

Here, I'll end some back and forth:

Me:  SCOTUS.  

You:  SCOTUS licks Trump's yam bags and will do whatever he wants.

Me:  Lack of confidence in the courts is another reason for some whackjob Leftist jihadist to try to assassinate somebody.  Again.

[seafoam1 3,401]

37 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

And there it is. Just curious, have you seen this floated or discussed online or on tv/radio, etc? TIA.

He has a great idea. We are at war here. The 2020 insurrection proves it. Trump should do as they are doing in Ukraine. Take control of the matter and hold no new elections until he sees fit. 

[Ron_Artest 2,148]

It's wasn't just one comment Jerry, he talks about this all the time.  He's definitely thought about it.  He sells trump 2028 hats in the white house for focks sake.  You can't be this stupid.

[seafoam1 3,401]

After seeing this crap that the liberals are posting, I am so all in on Trump serving a third term if he wants to. That would just be glorious. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,392]

21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

It's wasn't just one comment Jerry, he talks about this all the time.  He's definitely thought about it.  He sells trump 2028 hats in the white house for focks sake.  You can't be this stupid.

He trolls you!! 

When will you Pedocrats get it? 

[seafoam1 3,401]

51 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

He trolls you!! 

When will you Pedocrats get it? 

Holy crap. I LOVE it when he trolls the liberals. 

It's priceless. 

[Mike Honcho 5,412]

7 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

The audacity of Trump voters to claim that Trump will just leave peacefully in 3 years, that he's only joking about staying, that he will follow the law, after we've seen him break the law, attack the capitol and do everything he can to stay in power...

They have TDS.  

[seafoam1 3,401]

34 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

They have TDS.  

Yep. All libtards do. Enjoy. 

[Grace Under Pressure 156]

“Own the Liberalz!!” 

Grow up.

[Ron_Artest 2,148]

“This president, in three years or in seven years, we’ll have another administration, and if those new leadership, you know, took a different view of this, there’s nothing, there’s zero impediment to this just being put right back in effect,” Olson said.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/third-trump-term-referenced-by-doj-opposing-lawyer-at-argument

Trolling.  TDS.  It's not happening.

[Maximum Overkill 2,392]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

“This president, in three years or in seven years, we’ll have another administration, and if those new leadership, you know, took a different view of this, there’s nothing, there’s zero impediment to this just being put right back in effect,” Olson said.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/third-trump-term-referenced-by-doj-opposing-lawyer-at-argument

Trolling.  TDS.  It's not happening.

TDS 

[Ron_Artest 2,148]

They have a third term project.  But I have TDS.

All the times Trump floated third term https://share.google/YYKOelLsyC4uRwiat

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

[seafoam1 3,401]

32 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 I have TDS.

Yep. Boring...

[TimHauck 3,284]

14 hours ago, jerryskids said:

That's your evidence?  He makes the one comment about how he hadn't thought about it, 15 seconds talking about his poll numbers and ending wars, then 2 of the 3 minutes propping up Marco and JD as great candidates, and calling Crockett and AOC low-IQ.  In the end someone asked about him being VP, and he said "I could do that, but it would be tricky and the people wouldn't want it."

That sure sounds like a guy planning to end around they system to remain king.   

Here, I'll end some back and forth:

Me:  SCOTUS.  

You:  SCOTUS licks Trump's yam bags and will do whatever he wants.

Me:  Lack of confidence in the courts is another reason for some whackjob Leftist jihadist to try to assassinate somebody.  Again.

Damn those Registered Republican jihadists

[Ron_Artest 2,148]

Jerry thinks he just made one comment.

I'll never understand how people can be so willfully ignorant.

[Sean Mooney 2,045]

Steve Bannon gives an interview saying there is a plan for a 3rd term. 

Trump is asked about a 3rd term and evades the question.

MAGA MOOKS: "He isn't going to do a 3rd term."

TRUMP RAGERS: "It's within the realm of possibility he does try."

MAGA MOOKS: "TRUUMP HAS BROKEN BRAINS!!"

 

[Fnord 2,493]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Steve Bannon gives an interview saying there is a plan for a 3rd term. 

Trump is asked about a 3rd term and evades the question.

MAGA MOOKS: "He isn't going to do a 3rd term."

TRUMP RAGERS: "It's within the realm of possibility he does try."

MAGA MOOKS: "TRUUMP HAS BROKEN BRAINS!!"

 

They also assured us that Trump had no knowledge of or involvement with P2025 and wouldn't enact any of it even if he did, have gone from revulsion to acceptance to defense of J6, have zero clue about the crypto bribery schemes Don's launched or how he's fully dismantled our ability to counter corruption within government and ordered DOJ lawyers to lie in court on his behalf, refuse to acknowledge the terror campaign being perpetrated by ICE, claimed tariffs were just a negotiating tactic, repositioned from rabid demand to release all the Epstein files into supporting the end of the investigation and burial of evidence, refuse to believe that the Don lost in 2020, and still think he GAF about something other than himself.

MAGA is so beholden to right wing media that they have become unreliable judges of political reality. I am seeing this first hand in my life. A lot of their support of Trump is based almost entirely on deception perpetrated by their information sources.

[Sean Mooney 2,045]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

They also assured us that Trump had no knowledge of or involvement with P2025 and wouldn't enact any of it even if he did, have gone from revulsion to acceptance to defense of J6, have zero clue about the crypto bribery schemes Don's launched or how he's fully dismantled our ability to counter corruption within government and ordered DOJ lawyers to lie in court on his behalf, refuse to acknowledge the terror campaign being perpetrated by ICE, claimed tariffs were just a negotiating tactic, repositioned from rabid demand to release all the Epstein files into supporting the end of the investigation and burial of evidence, refuse to believe that the Don lost in 2020, and still think he GAF about something other than himself.

MAGA is so beholden to right wing media that they have become unreliable judges of political reality. I am seeing this first hand in my life. A lot of their support of Trump is based almost entirely on deception perpetrated by their information sources.

This all boils down to me to a simple sentence: "Most of them lack intelligence."

Simple fact though is he will never be wrong in their eyes. They've invested their whole lives in him and these promises he keeps making that he isn't living up to. But he doesn't have to live up to them because they will pretend he did, or make the goal something else, or move on to the next outrage thing.

Hell ICE is even having their ranks purged because they aren't deporting people. 

[Ron_Artest 2,148]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

They also assured us that Trump had no knowledge of or involvement with P2025 and wouldn't enact any of it even if he did, have gone from revulsion to acceptance to defense of J6, have zero clue about the crypto bribery schemes Don's launched or how he's fully dismantled our ability to counter corruption within government and ordered DOJ lawyers to lie in court on his behalf, refuse to acknowledge the terror campaign being perpetrated by ICE, claimed tariffs were just a negotiating tactic, repositioned from rabid demand to release all the Epstein files into supporting the end of the investigation and burial of evidence, refuse to believe that the Don lost in 2020, and still think he GAF about something other than himself.

MAGA is so beholden to right wing media that they have become unreliable judges of political reality. I am seeing this first hand in my life. A lot of their support of Trump is based almost entirely on deception perpetrated by their information sources.

- Trump will never build concentration camps for migrants

- Trump will never use the military against it's own citizens

- Trump will never break the law

- Trump will never declare 20% tariffs

- Trump will never weaponize the DOJ

- Trump will never cover up Epstein

All said, all happened.

So spare me the TDS BS when all this sh1t they said was TDS actually happened.

[squistion 2,477]

 

[Fnord 2,493]

28 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

This all boils down to me to a simple sentence: "Most of them lack intelligence."

Simple fact though is he will never be wrong in their eyes. They've invested their whole lives in him and these promises he keeps making that he isn't living up to. But he doesn't have to live up to them because they will pretend he did, or make the goal something else, or move on to the next outrage thing.

Hell ICE is even having their ranks purged because they aren't deporting people. 

And the bolded is where we anti-Tumpers lose the plot. I do not believe this to be generally true of Trump voters. There are plenty of dipshit progressives out there; even "educated" ones.

Now, if we're talking specifically about the MAGA cohort, which I am and think you are, you may be partially correct. But even if you (we) are, it doesn't help anyone by throwing that information into their faces. MAGA have been called every name in the book, and that's a big part of their anger and disenfranchisement with politics today. Uppity liberals like us looking down their noses at them, telling them they're dumb, saying we know what's best for them. That condescension is a real problem that we have to overcome to be able to engage our fellow Americans in troubleshooting our way through this disaster.

[Grace Under Pressure 156]

43 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

This all boils down to me to a simple sentence: "Most of them lack intelligence."

Simple fact though is he will never be wrong in their eyes. They've invested their whole lives in him and these promises he keeps making that he isn't living up to. But he doesn't have to live up to them because they will pretend he did, or make the goal something else, or move on to the next outrage thing.

Hell ICE is even having their ranks purged because they aren't deporting people. 

Not all cult followers lack intelligence. Mostly these are average people. But they have been indoctrinated, and are too far invested to realize it or to turn back.

This is why it's important to never worship another person, especially when it comes to politics/government. It's literally dangerous, and has cost our country many of it's constitutional principles. And who benefits? The wealthiest top 0.1%. Not the rally-goers.

MAGA: You literally support one man over your country. Stop already.

[Grace Under Pressure 156]

22 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Now, if we're talking specifically about the MAGA cohort, which I am and think you are, you may be partially correct. But even if you (we) are, it doesn't help anyone by throwing that information into their faces. MAGA have been called every name in the book, and that's a big part of their anger and disenfranchisement with politics today. Uppity liberals like us looking down their noses at them, telling them they're dumb, saying we know what's best for them. That condescension is a real problem that we have to overcome to be able to engage our fellow Americans in troubleshooting our way through this disaster.

I mostly agree with this, and I believe in 2018 that was probably the correct approach.

The problem became, and is, that MAGA has now tripled down on their support for Trump. The right-wing echo chamber worked on these people. They are way too far gone to listen to a POV like this. The time now requires speaking their language. It's the only thing they might understand.