Sean Mooney 2,045 Posted 20 hours ago 2 hours ago, Fnord said: And the bolded is where we anti-Tumpers lose the plot. I do not believe this to be generally true of Trump voters. There are plenty of dipshit progressives out there; even "educated" ones. Now, if we're talking specifically about the MAGA cohort, which I am and think you are, you may be partially correct. But even if you (we) are, it doesn't help anyone by throwing that information into their faces. MAGA have been called every name in the book, and that's a big part of their anger and disenfranchisement with politics today. Uppity liberals like us looking down their noses at them, telling them they're dumb, saying we know what's best for them. That condescension is a real problem that we have to overcome to be able to engage our fellow Americans in troubleshooting our way through this disaster. 2 things to me: 1) It's why I said "most" and not "all" 2) There are plenty of idiot progressives that lack intelligence- despite education level. I'm not saying I know what is best for them. I'm just saying they lack the ability to question things for themselves like they should. They just buy what Trump is selling part and parcel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,494 Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Grace Under Pressure said: I mostly agree with this, and I believe in 2018 that was probably the correct approach. The problem became, and is, that MAGA has now tripled down on their support for Trump. The right-wing echo chamber worked on these people. They are way too far gone to listen to a POV like this. The time now requires speaking their language. It's the only thing they might understand. I am scared you may be right but hope like hell you aren't. I had this convo with my dad (non-MAGA but hard red voter) last night when I was naming off a litany of things he has no knowledge of due to RWM consumption: the crypto schemes, the firing of all the IG's and regulatory/ethical professionals, denying federal aid to blue states while granting it to red, etc. He suggested an investigation. When I countered that nobody watching Fox News would believe any of the negative findings anyway, he had nothing to say. I stand firm in my belief that fighting fire with fire is just going to burn everything down. Justify it all we want, but nationwide gerrymandering is a perfect example of how the cure will be worse than the disease. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,285 Posted 20 hours ago 3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: - Trump will never build concentration camps for migrants - Trump will never use the military against it's own citizens - Trump will never break the law - Trump will never declare 20% tariffs - Trump will never weaponize the DOJ - Trump will never cover up Epstein All said, all happened. So spare me the TDS BS when all this sh1t they said was TDS actually happened. “wHaT’s ThE dIfFeReNcE bEtWeEn a CoNsPiRaCy ThEoRy AnD tHe TrUtH? 6 MoNtHs” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,494 Posted 20 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: 2 things to me: 1) It's why I said "most" and not "all" 2) There are plenty of idiot progressives that lack intelligence- despite education level. I'm not saying I know what is best for them. I'm just saying they lack the ability to question things for themselves like they should. They just buy what Trump is selling part and parcel. I get it. I tend to think their choices in information sources have been far more influential in them turning into MAGA zombies than lacking capacity for independent thought. The end result is the same, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,054 Posted 17 hours ago 8 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: Steve Bannon gives an interview saying there is a plan for a 3rd term. Trump is asked about a 3rd term and evades the question. MAGA MOOKS: "He isn't going to do a 3rd term." TRUMP RAGERS: "It's within the realm of possibility he does try." MAGA MOOKS: "TRUUMP HAS BROKEN BRAINS!!" Bannon, huh? The guy Trump fired back in 2017. Seems he wants to become relevant again more than anything. Anyway, I found and watched the video of his interview with the BBC, just a brief clip. The idea that there is some secret cabal who views Trump as a heaven-sent instrument to implement I presume Project 2025 or some such, and will find some machination to get Trump back into office in 2028, sounds more like a David Baldacci novel than reality. But, it's not completely implausible. After all, nobody knows who really ran the country during Biden's term. So I will agree that there is a non-zero chance, and all you moderates can continue your sky screaming with my blessing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 770 Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: . I'm not saying I know what is best for them. I'm just saying they lack the ability to question things for themselves like they should. They just buy what Trump is selling part and parcel. Comical Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,402 Posted 17 hours ago 3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: They just buy what Trump is selling part and parcel. Stepford Liberal.Says What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 156 Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, Fnord said: I am scared you may be right but hope like hell you aren't. I had this convo with my dad (non-MAGA but hard red voter) last night when I was naming off a litany of things he has no knowledge of due to RWM consumption: the crypto schemes, the firing of all the IG's and regulatory/ethical professionals, denying federal aid to blue states while granting it to red, etc. He suggested an investigation. When I countered that nobody watching Fox News would believe any of the negative findings anyway, he had nothing to say. I stand firm in my belief that fighting fire with fire is just going to burn everything down. Justify it all we want, but nationwide gerrymandering is a perfect example of how the cure will be worse than the disease. Winning the presidential election is the way out. There is still 20-30% of a persuadable electorate. Democrats need to put up better candidates. They’re just as gullible or naive in many ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,401 Posted 17 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Stepford Liberal.Says What? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 14 hours ago Here’s a dipshit Senator talking about it. This asskissing shitbird would 100% fall in line 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 156 Posted 14 hours ago 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Here’s a dipshit Senator talking about it. This asskissing shitbird would 100% fall in line He already is. The answer isn’t “never rule out President Trump”. The answer is “he can’t run.” This guy is a traitor to America and the constitution. In the cult hierarchy, there is the leader and there are followers. Enablers like Tuberville are followers, but as an insider in the Mar-a-Lago circle, he actually genuinely benefits. In his case, at least the motivation is clear. The rally-goers are the gullible dupes. Their motivation is mostly to feel shared hatred towards the out-group, in this case “Liberalz!”, with immigrants and trans thrown in. They are also motivated by a need to feel like they’re accepted in the in-group, not unlike certain religions and other member based organizations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,458 Posted 13 hours ago Oh, yes. This is all real. Fear Trump. Just because Trump follows every single court ruling, every single time, and the constitution is clear on this don't believe it. Rachel Maddow and other hyperventilating fruitcakes are right on everything. Trump is not just trolling gullible retards because its fun to watch their tiny non-functional brains explode. He really means it. Trump really is running in 2028. He'll be taking on a rested and rejuvenated Biden who everyone sorely misses. Before that happens, Geraldo will discover Jimmy Hoffa's grave and open it to reveal Sasquatch which is more evidence that the Egyptian pyramids were built by Nazi aliens as a wine cellar. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 13 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Oh, yes. This is all real. Fear Trump. Just because Trump follows every single court ruling, every single time, and the constitution is clear on this don't believe it. Rachel Maddow and other hyperventilating fruitcakes are right on everything. Trump is not just trolling gullible retards because its fun to watch their tiny non-functional brains explode. He really means it. Trump really is running in 2028. He'll be taking on a rested and rejuvenated Biden who everyone sorely misses. Before that happens, Geraldo will discover Jimmy Hoffa's grave and open it to reveal Sasquatch which is more evidence that the Egyptian pyramids were built by Nazi aliens as a wine cellar. The correct answer when you ask a Senator or the President is “no you cant run a third time” . It’s not that hard. It’s really neat this asshats think they are “trolling” though. They are scumbags. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,401 Posted 13 hours ago 7 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The correct answer when you ask a Senator or the President is “no you cant run a third time” . It’s not that hard. It’s really neat this asshats think they are “trolling” though. They are scumbags. Liberals are so stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 13 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Oh, yes. This is all real. Fear Trump. Just because Trump follows every single court ruling, every single time, and the constitution is clear on this don't believe it. Rachel Maddow and other hyperventilating fruitcakes are right on everything. Trump is not just trolling gullible retards because its fun to watch their tiny non-functional brains explode. He really means it. Trump really is running in 2028. He'll be taking on a rested and rejuvenated Biden who everyone sorely misses. Before that happens, Geraldo will discover Jimmy Hoffa's grave and open it to reveal Sasquatch which is more evidence that the Egyptian pyramids were built by Nazi aliens as a wine cellar. 7 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Liberals are so stupid. The good news is @Voltaire you have Peefoam in your corner! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,054 Posted 13 hours ago 17 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The correct answer when you ask a Senator or the President is “no you cant run a third time” . It’s not that hard. It’s really neat this asshats think they are “trolling” though. They are scumbags. Well, Trump does like to troll. And keeping open the perceived possibility of running keeps the money flowing in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,152 Posted 13 hours ago 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Well, Trump does like to troll. And keeping open the perceived possibility of running keeps the money flowing in. So Republicans believe he's gonna run too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,837 Posted 13 hours ago 9 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Well, Trump does like to troll. And keeping open the perceived possibility of running keeps the money flowing in. If there are 2 things he loves it’s grift and being an ass hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,401 Posted 13 hours ago 8 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The good news is @Voltaire you have Peefoam in your corner! Thegenital at work again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,054 Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: So Republicans believe he's gonna run too? I suspect a lot of them do, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 13 hours ago 26 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Well, Trump does like to troll. And keeping open the perceived possibility of running keeps the money flowing in. Now we have a current Senator saying…golly gee, well Trump likes to do his own thing the Constitution isn’t really that clear here. Again the correct answer is “no he can’t run again”. Not really hard. But yeah I do see your point that he loves collecting money and this does it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,152 Posted 13 hours ago Just now, thegeneral said: Now we have a current Senator saying…golly gee, well Trump likes to do his own thing the Constitution isn’t really that clear here. Again the correct answer is “no he can’t run again”. Not really hard. No one will say it. After we all watched him try to steal one election, anything is on the table for this traitor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,382 Posted 12 hours ago To be honest this is not really a fear I share. Dude will be 83. Doubt he wants it. I am far more concerned about the damage to the country he is doing NOW. 2028 is a long way off. We need to get past the current disaster. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: No one will say it. After we all watched him try to steal one election, anything is on the table for this traitor. If he wasn’t old as fock, having health issues, etc. I’d think this is more a real concern. We know he’s a delusional lunatic and we know enough of his base and therefore his party will line up when and where he says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,152 Posted 12 hours ago Just now, thegeneral said: If he wasn’t old as fock, having health issues, etc. I’d think this is more a real concern. We know he’s a delusional lunatic and we know enough of his base and therefore his party will line up when and where he says. I said before, I think there is a greater chance we will be dead by 2028 than he will declare himself forever king. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,458 Posted 12 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: So Republicans believe he's gonna run too? No. We all KNOW he isn't. There is a 0.0000000000000000000000% chance he is running (rounded up). it's because its illegal. Those of us paying attention know that Trump never, not one time, has ever crossed a court decision. We do see that je pushed the limits, he maliciously complies, he appeals, but in the end, if they slap him down, he always always follows the courts. That's why Uganda Eswatini Liberia Dad hasn't been deported yet and why the border wall funding/construction was held up for as long as it was. Running for a third term is such a clear violation of the Constitution that it not even worth thinking about. You guys are absurd. This whole thing is an artificial leftoid generated nightmare that only exists because they all live in an information silo where they smell each others farts all day. The reason Trump plays along with it is because trolling them and watching them hyperventilate humors him. I do believe that he would run if the Constitution allowed it. He likes the job, he likes the challenge, he likes the battles, and he wants to shepherd his reforms through to the end. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,165 Posted 12 hours ago People have no idea what is coming down the pike 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 12 hours ago 12 minutes ago, HellToupee said: People have no idea what is coming down the pike Let’s hear it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 12 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Voltaire said: No. We all KNOW he isn't. There is a 0.0000000000000000000000% chance he is running (rounded up). it's because its illegal. Those of us paying attention know that Trump never, not one time, has ever crossed a court decision. We do see that je pushed the limits, he maliciously complies, he appeals, but in the end, if they slap him down, he always always follows the courts. That's why Uganda Eswatini Liberia Dad hasn't been deported yet and why the border wall funding/construction was held up for as long as it was. Running for a third term is such a clear violation of the Constitution that it not even worth thinking about. You guys are absurd. This whole thing is an artificial leftoid generated nightmare that only exists because they all live in an information silo where they smell each others farts all day. The reason Trump plays along with it is because trolling them and watching them hyperventilate humors him. I do believe that he would run if the Constitution allowed it. He likes the job, he likes the challenge, he likes the battles, and he wants to shepherd his reforms through to the end. I’ll take some action on this. Care to make it interesting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,458 Posted 12 hours ago 13 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I’ll take some action on this. Care to make it interesting? You're offering to bet on this? Yeah, I'll take that up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Voltaire said: You're offering to bet on this? Yeah, I'll take that up. I’ll take 50:1 Hundred American dollars on my side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,458 Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: I’ll take 50:1 Hundred American dollars on my side. 50:1 So I win $2? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 12 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Voltaire said: 50:1 So I win $2? Lol. No you lose you pay me 5000, you win I pay you 100. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,401 Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Lol. No you lose you pay me 5000, you win I pay you 100. thegenital is on the loose. What a libtard. So uneducated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: thegenital is on the loose. What a libtard. So uneducated. You want in on some action, Newman?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,458 Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Lol. No you lose you pay me 5000, you win I pay you 100. Nevermind. I presumed it was a typo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Voltaire said: Nevermind. I presumed it was a typo. Well the bet is out there. I’m giving you 100 bucks for free since it’s a 0% chance of happening and all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,054 Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Nevermind. I presumed it was a typo. TheGeneral is strong in his convictions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,458 Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Well the bet is out there. I’m giving you 100 bucks for free since it’s a 0% chance of happening and all. I'm three years removed from the Chinese government destroying everything I worked for all my life and so I couldn't pay you if I lost in order to to gain a couple of family nights out to eat and also I don't know that I could trust you to pay up anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,555 Posted 11 hours ago 7 minutes ago, jerryskids said: TheGeneral is strong in his convictions. I’m offering amazing odds here for something that has a zero percent chance of happening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites