Trump wants the U.S. to take over Gaza and relocate all the Palestinians

[Red White and Blue 81]

2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I finally read through this thread and not a single one of you can piece together how the Jews are responsible for this.

Some of you think America is going to take over Gaza or Trump is going to build hotels. No it will be given to Israel our greatest ally. 

Truly amazing how brain washes both side dems and Republicans are when it comes to Israel. 

This guy gets it.

[jbycho 754]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Well, let me say this.....I dont think he actually intends to do anything at all with Palestine......

But I think the nations in that region hear him say HE WILL.....and that is a notion they find....lets say unsettling.....

So I suggest, this is a threat of sorts, that the neighboring nations better get their sh!t together and get involved....or else HE will.....

And I also suggest, they think he absolutely will.   So lets see if all the sudden... Saudi...Jordan...Turkey....and Egypt decide to get together and get involved.

Well, you hate to fock with other cultures that have been standing for thousands of years, but at some point, when those cultures are supreme net negatives on the lives of all people around the world, it:s time for someone to take a chance to stop it on a world level. 

Even if it's just a bold start. 

[Horseman 2,458]

16 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I finally read through this thread and not a single one of you can piece together how the Jews are responsible for this.

Some of you think America is going to take over Gaza or Trump is going to build hotels. No it will be given to Israel our greatest ally. 

Truly amazing how brain washes both side dems and Republicans are when it comes to Israel. 

I get it. Let's take out the greater threat first there bub, cdub.  Baby steps. 

[RLLD 4,230]

14 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Well, you hate to fock with other cultures that have been standing for thousands of years, but at some point, when those cultures are supreme net negatives on the lives of all people around the world, it:s time for someone to take a chance to stop it on a world level. 

Even if it's just a bold start. 

Palestine is not a real thing. It never was. In fact, the name itself is something the arabs in the area subsumed from the Jews.

Leaders in the early part of the 20th century made many mistakes, the carving up of the middle east and their mishandling of Israel have been chief among those mistakes.

I read a book called A Peace to End All Peace   and it goes through considerable detail to outline what transpired during and after WWI, where the main mistakes transpired.  If I am being fair, it is not an "easy" read, but at the end you come away with a real appreciation for the complexity of the problems in the area.

[jbycho 754]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Palestine is not a real thing. It never was. In fact, the name itself is something the arabs in the area subsumed from the Jews.

Leaders in the early part of the 20th century made many mistakes, the carving up of the middle east and their mishandling of Israel have been chief among those mistakes.

I read a book called A Peace to End All Peace   and it goes through considerable detail to outline what transpired during and after WWI, where the main mistakes transpired.  If I am being fair, it is not an "easy" read, but at the end you come away with a real appreciation for the complexity of the problems in the area.

My point exactly. It's a ruse in the end. Time to put the terrorists and the middle east dictators on alert by taking action for once. 

Tire the dock out of them and be aggressive even if it means taking them out by stealth. 

[Mufaletta 81]

23 hours ago, Voltaire said:

This is the dumbest thing he's proposed by far. In fairness it may be the only dumb thing he's proposed.

This is not out problem. Even if everything goes smoothly, it'll still cost us tons of money. Where will the Palestinians go? Nobody wants them. 

I am way, way, very against this.

Don't get lost on the "first announcement".    Trump's team is already looking 3 to 4 moves down the chessboard.    

Expect something along these lines:

"Oh, by the way, China, you want these tarriffs lifted, you will help fund the construction and rebuild, as well as staff an international security force in Gaza for the next 10 years, I'll await your answer".

"Oh, by the way, NATO, you want us to continue to fund your organization to keep Russia from picking off your eastern flank one by one, each of your member states will contribute to the Gaza rebuild and your militaries will enforce security in that zone over the next decade".

and so on. . . .

[Mufaletta 81]

20 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

The population's mindset is totally poisoned with what is taught there.  There's a reason the Egyptians or Jordanians won't take them in.  Like you said, they chose their leadership and where it's gotten them.  

100% true.   They know nothing else as the males are taught this "death to Israel and the West" from the age of five.   The females are not allowed to learn anything.    They have no way of easily reversing the brainwashing, especially if they are left to their own devices in yet another "newly resettled Palestine".      That generation can be resettled in Muslim countries and treated as wards of the state in some fashion.     The next generation can grow up seeing there is a better way with significantly more influence from Judeo-Christian values and less Islamist hate baked into their impressionable minds.     It does NOT have to be an exclusively USA led effort, either.    Enlist those that claim they spend all their time spreading love and charity throughout the globe.      All of the fired U.N. Workers will need a new mission.   Let some of the Jesuits get in their and teach, etc. 

[Red White and Blue 81]

1 minute ago, Mufaletta said:

Don't get lost on the "first announcement".    Trump's team is already looking 3 to 4 moves down the chessboard.    

Expect something along these lines:

"Oh, by the way, China, you want these tarriffs lifted, you will help fund the construction and rebuild, as well as staff an international security force in Gaza for the next 10 years, I'll await your answer".

"Oh, by the way, NATO, you want us to continue to fund your organization to keep Russia from picking off your eastern flank one by one, each of your member states will contribute to the Gaza rebuild and your militaries will enforce security in that zone over the next decade".

and so on. . . .

There isn’t a country on earth that would be stupid enough to commit its military to secure Gaza, except maybe ours. 

[Mufaletta 81]

Just now, Red White and Blue said:

There isn’t a country on earth that would be stupid enough to commit its military to secure Gaza, except maybe ours. 

Israel will.    Turkey likely will.    Others may fall in line.   We will see. 

[Red White and Blue 81]

Just now, Mufaletta said:

Israel will.    Turkey likely will.    Others may fall in line.   We will see. 

Israel is already paying for security there. There’s a 0% chance of the US commuting ground troops indefinitely to rebuild Gaza. The whole idea was the shower thoughts of a geriatric man.

[Mufaletta 81]

19 hours ago, Mark Davis said:

I personally don't believe that the true intention is for us to be an occupying force there, just rhetoric.  I have no interest in seeing US forces there.  If there's someone we need to kill, kill them and leave.  No need to stay, don't want the territory, nothing for us there.

Except the most strategic spot on the globe for an air force/'naval/space force military outpost to protect vital interests such as:

- Keeping the Suez canal open and available for international shipping, free from Huthi rebels, ISIS combatants, pirates and others

- Monitoring Iran and other regimes hell bent on developing nuclear arsenals  

[Mufaletta 81]

Just now, Red White and Blue said:

Israel is already paying for security there. There’s a 0% chance of the US commuting ground troops indefinitely to rebuild Gaza. The whole idea was the shower thoughts of a geriatric man.

 

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In the meeting on January 22, 1938, FDR said: “‘In that case we might find some large areas as a second choice [after Palestine] for the Jews,’ authors Richard Breitman and Allan J. Lichtman record in their book FDR and the Jews.

"Wise parried by asking whether FDR would be willing to swap his Hyde park estate for the huge King Ranch in Texas. Palestine, he said was the Jewish homeland. FDR responded, ‘I am not offering a substitute for Palestine, but Palestine possibilities are going to be exhausted.’ As the president put it, ‘You ought to have another card up your sleeve.’”

 

 

[squistion 2,202]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

Oy Vey!!! 

Bigot

Anti-Semite 

There are probably other boxes we can check for your hatred against Jewish people. 

[Mufaletta 81]

11 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

This is so galactically stupid there has to be something else going on

1) Art of the Deal.  He thinks he can make a deal with the Palestinians and his first offer is to take over their land.

2) It's a simple distraction while Musk cleans out the US Treasury

TDS kicking in.    Making it too difficult for you to think clearly.

[Red White and Blue 81]

9 minutes ago, Mufaletta said:

 

 

It’s not happening dude. The American public won’t tolerate a new decades long quagmire and any “development” in Gaza is destined to be the most bombed place on earth.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

 Being a student of history and knowing that the crusades first and foremost were a reaction to Muslim aggression and expansion, I think we best leave this one alone as much as possible. Let them continue to brutalize each other if they so wish. 

[jbycho 754]

7 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said:

It’s not happening dude. The American public won’t tolerate a new decades long quagmire and any “development” in Gaza is destined to be the most bombed place on earth.

Dumb.

[jbycho 754]

11 minutes ago, Mufaletta said:

TDS kicking in.    Making it too difficult for you to think clearly.

Truth..

[HellToupee 1,776]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

Some of you think America is going to take over Gaza or Trump is going to build hotels. No it will be given to Israel our greatest ally. 

If Donald actually did take Gaza from hamas I wouldn’t be surprised if they did give it to Israel but hold onto the offshore oil.This ties in with Donald talking about how small Israel is

There is the Ben Gurion canal project that would cut through Gaza and connect the Red and Med seas. Let Israel do the heavy lifting , we get the oil and don’t need the Suez

 

[Red White and Blue 81]

38 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Dumb.

The idea of turning Gaza into the Riviera of the Middle East certainly is. To be fair to Trump, he probably didn’t even mean it, he just lacks a filter.

[seafoam1 3,025]

14 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

Can't get over tampons in boys bathrooms

 

13 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

No one cares about tampons in boys bathrooms.

You seem to. 

[jbycho 754]

28 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said:

The idea of turning Gaza into the Riviera of the Middle East certainly is. To be fair to Trump, he probably didn’t even mean it, he just lacks a filter.

Dumb liberal Rusty....

[thegeneral 3,214]

Well that ends that

“Saudi Arabia says it is committed to a Palestinian state including the strip, rules out normalization of diplomatic ties with Israel without that goal”

Don won’t upset those dudes so this will be forgotten about in about a week.

[HellToupee 1,776]

Donald dropping some info………

 

The Gaza Strip would be turned over to the United States by Israel at the conclusion of fighting. The Palestinians, people like Chuck Schumer, would have already been resettled in far safer and more beautiful communities, with new and modern homes, in the region. They would actually have a chance to be happy, safe, and free. The U.S., working with great development teams from all over the World, would slowly and carefully begin the construction of what would become one of the greatest and most spectacular developments of its kind on Earth. No soldiers by the U.S. would be needed! Stability for the region would reign!!!

Donald Trump Truth Social Post 06:32 AM EST 02/06/25

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

Donald dropping some info………

 

The Gaza Strip would be turned over to the United States by Israel at the conclusion of fighting. The Palestinians, people like Chuck Schumer, would have already been resettled in far safer and more beautiful communities, with new and modern homes, in the region. They would actually have a chance to be happy, safe, and free. The U.S., working with great development teams from all over the World, would slowly and carefully begin the construction of what would become one of the greatest and most spectacular developments of its kind on Earth. No soldiers by the U.S. would be needed! Stability for the region would reign!!!

Donald Trump Truth Social Post 06:32 AM EST 02/06/25

You think removing a million people, putting in some condos, will happen and require no troops

[TrailGuy 554]

2 hours ago, HellToupee said:

Donald dropping some info………

 

The Gaza Strip would be turned over to the United States by Israel at the conclusion of fighting. The Palestinians, people like Chuck Schumer, would have already been resettled in far safer and more beautiful communities, with new and modern homes, in the region. They would actually have a chance to be happy, safe, and free. The U.S., working with great development teams from all over the World, would slowly and carefully begin the construction of what would become one of the greatest and most spectacular developments of its kind on Earth. No soldiers by the U.S. would be needed! Stability for the region would reign!!!

Donald Trump Truth Social Post 06:32 AM EST 02/06/25

He's lost his mind 

[Mike Honcho 5,281]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

You think removing a million people, putting in some condos, will happen and require no troops

So the anti-immigration president, DT, wants to move 1.8 million people to other countries that don't want them.  

[Mike Honcho 5,281]

2 hours ago, HellToupee said:

Donald dropping some info………

 

The Gaza Strip would be turned over to the United States by Israel at the conclusion of fighting. The Palestinians, people like Chuck Schumer, would have already been resettled in far safer and more beautiful communities, with new and modern homes, in the region. They would actually have a chance to be happy, safe, and free. The U.S., working with great development teams from all over the World, would slowly and carefully begin the construction of what would become one of the greatest and most spectacular developments of its kind on Earth. No soldiers by the U.S. would be needed! Stability for the region would reign!!!

Donald Trump Truth Social Post 06:32 AM EST 02/06/25

Thanks, I need the laugh. 

[RLLD 4,230]

11 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Well that ends that

“Saudi Arabia says it is committed to a Palestinian state including the strip, rules out normalization of diplomatic ties with Israel without that goal”

Don won’t upset those dudes so this will be forgotten about in about a week.

Perfect, this is one of the dominoes we need to move this forward.   

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

Wondering if Elon give him the resettlement idea? In the 1950s the South African government forcibly  “resettled” thousands of black residents of Capetown and Johannesburg into “bantustans”. It didn’t work out so well…

[thegeneral 3,214]

45 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Perfect, this is one of the dominoes we need to move this forward.   

This is one of the dumber ideas to come out of DC in some time. 

[RLLD 4,230]

22 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

This is one of the dumber ideas to come out of DC in some time. 

I see it as brilliant, as I have already noted the intent was to compel/provoke the other players in the region and so far that has worked.  We also need Jordan and Egypt to weigh in, and then we need to see negotiations to have THOSE nations take the lead.  I am hoopeful.

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, RLLD said:

I see it as brilliant, as I have already noted the intent was to compel/provoke the other players in the region and so far that has worked.  We also need Jordan and Egypt to weigh in, and then we need to see negotiations to have THOSE nations take the lead.  I am hoopeful.

Egypt and Jordan have weighed in. It’s a big no.

[thegeneral 3,214]

Kick a million people out of their homes. Put up some pickleball courts and condos. Fixed. Call it a day!

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Egypt and Jordan have weighed in. It’s a big no.

Perfect.  This is just step 1.  Now we let the negotiations unfold.  Loving this.

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

Just now, RLLD said:

I see it as brilliant, as I have already noted the intent was to compel/provoke the other players in the region and so far that has worked.  We also need Jordan and Egypt to weigh in, and then we need to see negotiations to have THOSE nations take the lead.  I am hoopeful.

I’m sorry but I have to challenge you. You wrote that “so far that has worked”. Exactly how? What players in the region have been compelled and provoked? To do what? Please explain. 
 

My own impression is that this has already driven Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan closer to Hamas, which is the exact opposite of our goals in the region. I base that impression on their immediate negative responses.  But if you believe otherwise please offer some evidence. 

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Perfect.  This is just step 1.  Now we let the negotiations unfold.  Loving this.

lol you must be trolling right? What sort of negotiations are you expecting? 

The Arab states want the Palestinians to have their own state in Gaza, the West Bank, and Jerusalem. And they want all Palestinians to have the right to return to Israel and live there if they wish with full rights as citizens. These have been their core demands for peace  for the the last 70 years and they have not changed. What kind of negotiation are you thinking is going to happen here? 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

So the anti-immigration president, DT, wants to move 1.8 million people to other countries that don't want them.  

Maybe he is worried about the negative population growth of Venezuala.  Maybe he can move them there.  They must be in need of workers with all of their productive workers having headed up here to avoid climate change and to do jobs Americans won't do.  Now Venezualans need workers to do jobs they won't do, or worse, don't have the workers to do. This should be a win/win for the Palestinians and the Venzualans since, as we know from listening to the Timschchet's of the world, immigration is a net benefit even when illegal, how much more so when it is openly welcomed?

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

3 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Maybe he is worried about the negative population growth of Venezuala.  Maybe he can move them there.  They must be in need of workers with all of their productive workers ahving headed up here to avoid climate change and to do jobs Americans won't do.  Now Venezualans need workers to do jobs they won't do, or worse, don't have the workers to do. Thsi should be a win/win for the Palestinians and the Venzualans since, as we know from listening to the Timschchet's of the world, immigration is a net benefit even when illegal, how much more so when it is openly welcomed?

Interesting that supposedly you have put me on ignore yet you continue to reference me. 

[RLLD 4,230]

24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m sorry but I have to challenge you. You wrote that “so far that has worked”. Exactly how? What players in the region have been compelled and provoked? To do what? Please explain. 
 

My own impression is that this has already driven Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan closer to Hamas, which is the exact opposite of our goals in the region. I base that impression on their immediate negative responses.  But if you believe otherwise please offer some evidence. 

IMHO Trump laid down the warning, and now the players we need to own this situation have weighed in, and now its time to turn to them and tell them to step up, or we will.   Negotiation, crafty.....love it.....