TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 Look at who supports the closure of USAID. Putin, Medvedev, Orban, Bukele. All far right wing authoritarians. Enemies of the US, enemies of democracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,187 Posted February 6 9 hours ago, Herbivore said: @RLLD would you consider this article to be propaganda? Not propaganda, but I would not trust it out of the gate, though it does feed into my suspicions I find the source to be of uncertain quality. I would need to weigh this against other sources covering the same topic. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 Civil war in Sudan. Starving, dying children. Usaid is there feeding these kids and saving their lives. The world's richest man has decided that all these poor people need to suffer. You all cheer this on. It's unfathomable the depravity that you display. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-aid-freeze-could-hit-sudan-starving-children/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 Let's remember that Elon musk has received more government money than USAID the past 8 years. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,201 Posted February 6 30 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Let's remember that Elon musk has received more government money than USAID the past 8 years. When do you do your CFO’ing? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted February 6 30 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Let's remember that Elon musk has received more government money than USAID the past 8 years. He actually did something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,201 Posted February 6 32 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: Let's remember that Elon musk has received more government money than USAID the past 8 years. Thanks Joe Biden! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,122 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, RLLD said: Not propaganda, but I would not trust it out of the gate, though it does feed into my suspicions I find the source to be of uncertain quality. I would need to weigh this against other sources covering the same topic. I think your propaganda meter is broke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,250 Posted February 6 10 hours ago, HellToupee said: Breaking now…. Imo Shellenberger is a great journalist in a time when there is very few https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1887282681609588759?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ https://substack.com/@shellenberger/note/c-91389057 https://www.public.news/p/both-usaid-and-the-cia-were-behind Quote The House of Representatives impeached President Donald Trump on December 18, 2019, after a White House whistleblower went public with evidence that Trump abused his powers by withholding military aid to Ukraine in order to dig up dirt on his rival, Joe Biden. In the complaint, the whistleblower claimed to have heard from White House staff that Trump had, on a phone call, directed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to work with his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, to investigate Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. The whistleblower who triggered the impeachment was a CIA analyst who was first brought into the White House by the Obama administration. Great journalist, there is a transcript of the phone call made in real time!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,675 Posted February 6 7 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Great journalist, there is a transcript of the phone call made in real time!!!! Cope harder Mr Homcho. Cope harder. We’re just at the tip of the iceberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,784 Posted February 6 17 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Cope harder Mr Homcho. Cope harder. We’re just at the tip of the iceberg I’m sure he prefers a lot more than the tip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, TrailGuy said: Civil war in Sudan. Starving, dying children. Usaid is there feeding these kids and saving their lives. The world's richest man has decided that all these poor people need to suffer. You all cheer this on. It's unfathomable the depravity that you display. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-aid-freeze-could-hit-sudan-starving-children/ Blame the people you elected that were money laundering through them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 17 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said: Blame the people you elected that were money laundering through them. evidence of money laundering? Liar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,201 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, TrailGuy said: Civil war in Sudan. Starving, dying children. Usaid is there feeding these kids and saving their lives. The world's richest man has decided that all these poor people need to suffer. You all cheer this on. It's unfathomable the depravity that you display. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-aid-freeze-could-hit-sudan-starving-children/ That’s been going on for a while. Don’t recall you mentioning it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted February 6 10 hours ago, TrailGuy said: I still haven't seen any bad stuff about USAID Sounds like they wasted a crap ton of tax payer money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000 Posted February 6 10 hours ago, TrailGuy said: I still haven't seen any bad stuff about USAID Yeah, we know. It's hard to see anything with your eyes closed and ears plugged but mouth wide open for that sweet far-left glory-hole propaganda. GTFO, you dumb sack of sh#t. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Sounds like they wasted a crap ton of tax payer money. Do we have any evidence or proof of this? I'd like to see it. All I've seen are lies on X. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yeah, we know. It's hard to see anything with your eyes closed and ears plugged but mouth wide open for that sweet far-left glory-hole propaganda. GTFO, you dumb sack of sh#t. Feel free to share anything you have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted February 6 Just now, TrailGuy said: Do we have any evidence or proof of this? I'd like to see it. All I've seen are lies on X. How do you know they're lies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: How do you know they're lies? They've been proven false. Here is what I've heard: 1) $84M to Chelsea Clinton. As evidenced they presented the EIN of the Clinton Foundation. So if the screenshot is true, it is a lie that it went to Chelsea. The screenshot says it went to the foundation. 2) $8M to Politico to write anti Trump stories. The $8M was for subscriptions and the owner of Politico is right wing. 3) USAID got Trump impeached. The Impeachment came from evidence from people in the room when he made that call, not USAID. That's all I've seen so far but feel free to share more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,000 Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: How do you know they're lies? Because he said so! Poster X: "This is a statement" TrailGhey: "That's not true! That's a lie! Hah-hah! I thoroughly debunked your statement!! Gotcha! Owned!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: They've been proven false. Here is what I've heard: 1) $84M to Chelsea Clinton. As evidenced they presented the EIN of the Clinton Foundation. So if the screenshot is true, it is a lie that it went to Chelsea. The screenshot says it went to the foundation. 2) $8M to Politico to write anti Trump stories. The $8M was for subscriptions and the owner of Politico is right wing. 3) USAID got Trump impeached. The Impeachment came from evidence from people in the room when he made that call, not USAID. That's all I've seen so far but feel free to share more. What about all the money going to Lutheran Social services? https://x.com/GenFlynn/status/1885872007062892568 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,250 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, HellToupee said: Cope harder Mr Homcho. Cope harder. We’re just at the tip of the iceberg The only thing I have to cope with is the thought that there are like you who are dangerously gullible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,438 Posted February 6 14 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: They've been proven false. Here is what I've heard: 1) $84M to Chelsea Clinton. As evidenced they presented the EIN of the Clinton Foundation. So if the screenshot is true, it is a lie that it went to Chelsea. The screenshot says it went to the foundation. 2) $8M to Politico to write anti Trump stories. The $8M was for subscriptions and the owner of Politico is right wing. 3) USAID got Trump impeached. The Impeachment came from evidence from people in the room when he made that call, not USAID. That's all I've seen so far but feel free to share more. You should take a break. Take a lap. This can't be good for all your health problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 275 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: When do you do your CFO’ing? "Hey Boss..we have a meeting"....Hang on I am on a football message board using one of my alias names to argue about Trump" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 15 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: What about all the money going to Lutheran Social services? https://x.com/GenFlynn/status/1885872007062892568 Looks like legit services to help refugees. https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article299655824.html There are other articles as well. You want to make the claim that we shouldnt be spending money on this, that's surely an opinion, an opinion of this administration of course. But to call it grift, money laundering, stealing, I would need to see something more to support that claim. Surely looks like a legit org helping people that need help. next? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,512 Posted February 6 10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: I’m trying to recall ever hearing the phrase “USAID” mentioned prior to the last 72 hours, in the media, on this discussion board, anywhere. I’m failing. One of the outlets for USAID's funding is Politico. A far left wing media outlet that gets over 90% of it's income from tax payers. If OAN got the same thing, would you be ok with it? I wouldn't be. Neither should happen. That's money that could be allocated towards actually helping the country instead of sow discourse. I hope Musk looks for things on the conservative side of the ledger as well. I'm not really sure what he'd find though. What are conservative government programs that are being pushed to the world through funding? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,250 Posted February 6 26 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: They've been proven false. Here is what I've heard: 1) $84M to Chelsea Clinton. As evidenced they presented the EIN of the Clinton Foundation. So if the screenshot is true, it is a lie that it went to Chelsea. The screenshot says it went to the foundation. 2) $8M to Politico to write anti Trump stories. The $8M was for subscriptions and the owner of Politico is right wing. 3) USAID got Trump impeached. The Impeachment came from evidence from people in the room when he made that call, not USAID. That's all I've seen so far but feel free to share more. The $8 was for subscriptions to software service that was spun off of Politico(not sure of the current relationship). It wasn't subscriptions to the magazine, but to the software subscription, big difference. But still nothing like the lies that they swallowed hook line and sinker yesterday. I think it's important to be accurate when exposing their BS. Quote POLITICO Pro is the leading policy workspace platform for public policy professionals. Get nonpartisan news, track legislation, explore directories,... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, League Champion said: He actually did something It is pointless to respond to that focking retard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,187 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Herbivore said: I think your propaganda meter is broke Of course you do.....and in kind I see yours as broken. So here we are, disagreeing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,201 Posted February 6 Liberals demand the separation of church and state. Unless the church is helping them wreck the country. Then give them millions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,675 Posted February 6 The$8M was for subscriptions rube Share /rub/ IPA guide Other forms: rubes Rube is an insulting word for a person considered uneducated or uncultured. Your average country bumpkin is also a rube. Calling someone a rube is another way of saying, "You sound like an idiot and you don't know what you're talking about." This word implies a lack of sophistication, manners, education, and culture. Rubes are usually from rural areas, and they’re also known as bumpkins, hayseeds, hicks, yahoos, yokels, and hillbillies. This is an insulting word, so use it cautiously — though it's probably fine to use it jokingly with your friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,675 Posted February 6 USAID seems like it was running Operation Mockingbird as part of their repertoire @wikileaks USAID was funding over 6,200 journalists across 707 media outlets and 279 "media" NGOs, including nine out of ten media outlets in Ukraine. medium.com/usaid-2030/pre… rsf.org/en/usa-trump-s… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,122 Posted February 6 7 minutes ago, RLLD said: Of course you do.....and in kind I see yours as broken. So here we are, disagreeing. its weird you would say that, I am not the one claiming things are propaganda. you do this pretty consistently. like in the hegseth thread. anytime you want to get back to that one and explain why that article was propaganda would be good. you jumped right in there, and here you are not so sure, you need to see more, about a story, as honcho pointed out, has complete transcript of his perfect call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 27 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: One of the outlets for USAID's funding is Politico. A far left wing media outlet that gets over 90% of it's income from tax payers. If OAN got the same thing, would you be ok with it? I wouldn't be. Neither should happen. That's money that could be allocated towards actually helping the country instead of sow discourse. I hope Musk looks for things on the conservative side of the ledger as well. I'm not really sure what he'd find though. What are conservative government programs that are being pushed to the world through funding? This is wrong. https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-check-politico-usaid-funding/ According to USAspending.gov, an official source for U.S. government expenditure data—and the resource used by Becker in his post—Politico received $8.2 million in total payments from government departments and agencies between fiscal year 2016 and fiscal year 2025. However, only $44,000 of this total came from USAID. Also the CEO of Politicos parent company is a Trump supporter https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/politico-owner-pray-for-trump-mathias-dopfner-axel-springer-1234587243/ Don't believe Benny Johnson on this, a guy that was ACTUALLY funded by Russia to spread right wing propaganda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted February 6 Is there any truth to them paying celebrities millions to go to Ukraine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Liberals demand the separation of church and state. Unless the church is helping them wreck the country. Then give them millions. One thing we can agree on is stopping the practice of Church's being tax exempt. How do you feel about catholic charities boyo? Criminal organization? Musk is gutting them too. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-musk-usaid-catholic-relief-b2692977.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,201 Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Is there any truth to them paying celebrities millions to go to Ukraine? That appears to be fake news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 554 Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Is there any truth to them paying celebrities millions to go to Ukraine? Nope. Another Musk lie. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/ukraine-ben-stiller-usaid-trip-b2693377.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,201 Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, TrailGuy said: One thing we can agree on is stopping the practice of Church's being tax exempt. How do you feel about catholic charities boyo? Criminal organization? Musk is gutting them too. https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-musk-usaid-catholic-relief-b2692977.html I’m not happy with them. But if they are going to claim they are ministering to the poor it’s kinda hard to get mad at them, specifically. It is what Jesus would do. Not sure if that is what is in their heart , but I guess I have to accept it. But I can hold my government accountable for funding it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites