Hundreds of drag queens, activists & LGBTQ+ allies converge on Kennedy Center to protest Trump’s takeover

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

That is a lie. No one is calling for children (under the age of 18) being castrated and no such surgeries have been done in this country.

Democrats urge Supreme Court to strike down Tennessee gender-affirming care ban

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More than 160 House and Senate Democrats on Tuesday called on the Supreme Court to protect access to gender-affirming health care for transgender minors by striking down a Tennessee law that bans treatment for youths younger than 18 when the justices review the law this fall. 

I disagree with your position as to what they support or do not support. 

[squistion 1,947]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Democrats urge Supreme Court to strike down Tennessee gender-affirming care ban

I disagree with your position as to what they support or do not support. 

Misleading from you as this gender affirming care that was being done was not castration (quit repeating that lie).

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Misleading from you as this gender affirming care that was being done was not castration (quit repeating that lie).

If you refuse to connect the dots, and see that this is defacto support, that is up to you.  The idiots who want to try to carve up children should be afforded no protection or leeway.  But you support as you see fit

[squistion 1,947]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If you refuse to connect the dots, and see that this is defacto support, that is up to you.  The idiots who want to try to carve up children should be afforded no protection or leeway.  But you support as you see fit

No one wants to carve up children, no one is calling for it and no children have been carved up in this country.

[Horseman 2,357]

39 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Big dating opp for you!

You missed the part where I called them freaks?  Oh wait, you like that. I forgot you frequent tranny bars.  

[thegeneral 2,896]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You missed the part where I called them freaks?  Oh wait, you like that. I forgot you frequent tranny bars.  

You shouldn’t try so hard to overcompensate little fella!

[Horseman 2,357]

Just now, thegeneral said:

You shouldn’t try so hard to overcompensate little fella!

Loves tranny freaks.  Projects like a woman. 

[RLLD 4,143]

23 minutes ago, squistion said:

No one wants to carve up children, no one is calling for it and no children have been carved up in this country.

Yeah, they are, hence the move to ban it....and then subsequent move by Democrats to ensure it can continue

[thegeneral 2,896]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Loves tranny freaks.  Projects like a woman. 

Is it true your stage name is “Tony Dead Fabulous!”?

[squistion 1,947]

Just now, RLLD said:

Yeah, they are, hence the move to ban it....and then subsequent move by Democrats to ensure it can continue

You have absolutely no proof of that. Quit repeating the lie that children are being castrated in this country.

[Horseman 2,357]

24 minutes ago, squistion said:

No one wants to carve up children, no one is calling for it and no children have been carved up in this country.

Fatguyinalittlecoat cut the tit's off his underage daughter.  For example.  

[Herbivore 1,115]

37 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Democrats urge Supreme Court to strike down Tennessee gender-affirming care ban

I disagree with your position as to what they support or do not support. 

“Decisions about healthcare belong to patients, their doctors, and their families—not politicians,” said Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), who led Tuesday’s brief with Democratic Reps. Jerry Nadler (N.Y.) and Frank Pallone (N.J.) and Sens. Ed Markey (Mass.) and Jeff Merkley (Ore.), in a statement.

[Horseman 2,357]

Just now, squistion said:

You have absolutely no proof of that. Quit repeating the lie that children are being castrated in this country.

 

Just now, Horseman said:

Fatguyinalittlecoat cut the tit's off his underage daughter.  For example.  

 

[Horseman 2,357]

Then renamed her Peter. No joke. 

[RLLD 4,143]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

You have absolutely no proof of that. Quit repeating the lie that children are being castrated in this country.

Posted the proof, and that what people see.  Denying it does not help you.

[RLLD 4,143]

4 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

“Decisions about healthcare belong to patients, their doctors, and their families—not politicians,” said Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.), who led Tuesday’s brief with Democratic Reps. Jerry Nadler (N.Y.) and Frank Pallone (N.J.) and Sens. Ed Markey (Mass.) and Jeff Merkley (Ore.), in a statement.

We protect kids from abuse, carving them up is abuse, children need to be protected from abusive people.  This is not new. 

[squistion 1,947]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Posted the proof, and that what people see.  Denying it does not help you.

That wasn't proof that anyone is calling for the castration of children. Quit repeating that lie.

[RLLD 4,143]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

That wasn't proof that anyone is calling for the castration of children. Quit repeating that lie.

I will stand by my assertion.  Guilt through association, I would think you could appreciate this.

[squistion 1,947]

Just now, RLLD said:

I will stand by my assertion.  Guilt through association, I would think you could appreciate this.

Association with who when no one is calling for the castration of children?

[Herbivore 1,115]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

We protect kids from abuse, carving them up is abuse, children need to be protected from abusive people.  This is not new. 

Transgenderism is a wild topic for sure. I don't get it at all. Probably never will. But you are advocating that the state override patients, doctors, and families for these medical decisions. You are trying to force people to follow your ideology with the idea that you are protecting them. Nothing is perfect, and likely some under 18(or over 18 for that matter) person that transitioned is going to regret it, and then very likely claim to be a victim. I think we would all like children to be protected from abusive people, but I consider it pretty arrogant that you would claim that every decision like this from someone under 18 is cause they were abused(ie allowed to go forward with their decision). 

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33 minutes ago, squistion said:

You have absolutely no proof of that. Quit repeating the lie that children are being castrated in this country.

Rich coming from a guy that promotes lies all day long every day

[squistion 1,947]

5 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

Transgenderism is a wild topic for sure. I don't get it at all. Probably never will. But you are advocating that the state override patients, doctors, and families for these medical decisions. You are trying to force people to follow your ideology with the idea that you are protecting them. Nothing is perfect, and likely some under 18(or over 18 for that matter) person that transitioned is going to regret it, and then very likely claim to be a victim. I think we would all like children to be protected from abusive people, but I consider it pretty arrogant that you would claim that every decision like this from someone under 18 is cause they were abused(ie allowed to go forward with their decision). 

No one under the age of 18 in this country has been "transitioned" and that is not what those who support gender affirming care are calling for.

[Fumbleweed 516]

As someone who has worked in a school setting as a mental health professional for 30 years, let me tell you what has gone on during the past decade or so. 

There is a big difference between transgenderism and the psychological/social contagion that has piggy-backed off of it. What children ages 12-17 want most is a sense of identity. The vast majority of adolescents currently claiming to be transgender or wanting to be transgender are no more transgender than you or me. They're looking for identity and finding that particular one to be affirmed by peers and sometimes adults in the school setting. And, sometimes, not affirmed certainly. But, adults who push children into any sort of actual medical procedure or intervention prior to the age of 18 are guilty of abuse from my vantage point, whether that be a parent, teacher, or school-based professional. When a child turns 18, they should be allowed to do whatever they wish on the issue, but until then, we risk permanent harm to thousands and thousands of children who have nothing more than an adolescent identity crisis meeting up with a current psychological contagion. 

[RLLD 4,143]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Association with who when no one is calling for the castration of children?

Guilty by association.  Sorry, you all set the stage, we are following along.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Common sense.  Which doesn’t seem to be so “common” anymore.

[RLLD 4,143]

54 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

Transgenderism is a wild topic for sure. I don't get it at all. Probably never will. But you are advocating that the state override patients, doctors, and families for these medical decisions. You are trying to force people to follow your ideology with the idea that you are protecting them. Nothing is perfect, and likely some under 18(or over 18 for that matter) person that transitioned is going to regret it, and then very likely claim to be a victim. I think we would all like children to be protected from abusive people, but I consider it pretty arrogant that you would claim that every decision like this from someone under 18 is cause they were abused(ie allowed to go forward with their decision). 

Well, there are parents who will subject their children to being cut up....and there are those who refuse to vaccine them. I think in both instance those parents are insane, and hurting their children. I disagree vehemently with both.  There is certainly no shortage of instances where vaccinations are mandated, and the Democrats have long decried those who want to make their own health decisions....

So I think this notion that we should cut up children who are navigating natural paths of self discovery, is likely even worse than denying them vaccines.

If adults want to make those decisions for themselves, fine, have at it....but sweet jesus, can liberals please leave the kids alone??

[Patented Phil 1,469]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

No one wants to carve up children, no one is calling for it and no children have been carved up in this country.

 You are easily the most evil, dishonest person in here.

[TBayXXXVII 2,482]

34 minutes ago, Fumbleweed said:

As someone who has worked in a school setting as a mental health professional for 30 years, let me tell you what has gone on during the past decade or so. 

There is a big difference between transgenderism and the psychological/social contagion that has piggy-backed off of it. What children ages 12-17 want most is a sense of identity. The vast majority of adolescents currently claiming to be transgender or wanting to be transgender are no more transgender than you or me. They're looking for identity and finding that particular one to be affirmed by peers and sometimes adults in the school setting. And, sometimes, not affirmed certainly. But, adults who push children into any sort of actual medical procedure or intervention prior to the age of 18 are guilty of abuse from my vantage point, whether that be a parent, teacher, or school-based professional. When a child turns 18, they should be allowed to do whatever they wish on the issue, but until then, we risk permanent harm to thousands and thousands of children who have nothing more than an adolescent identity crisis meeting up with a current psychological contagion. 

Sadly, only one side of the aisle understands this.

[jerryskids 6,559]

12 hours ago, Tebok said:

This is what I've been saying for weeks. Unhealthy obsession = erotic fascination. 

You want to slob Trump's engorged knob?!

 

[Strike 5,186]

1 hour ago, Herbivore said:

Transgenderism is a wild topic for sure. I don't get it at all. Probably never will. But you are advocating that the state override patients, doctors, and families for these medical decisions. You are trying to force people to follow your ideology with the idea that you are protecting them. Nothing is perfect, and likely some under 18(or over 18 for that matter) person that transitioned is going to regret it, and then very likely claim to be a victim. I think we would all like children to be protected from abusive people, but I consider it pretty arrogant that you would claim that every decision like this from someone under 18 is cause they were abused(ie allowed to go forward with their decision). 

These aren't medical decisions.  HTH.

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1 hour ago, Fumbleweed said:

As someone who has worked in a school setting as a mental health professional for 30 years, let me tell you what has gone on during the past decade or so. 

There is a big difference between transgenderism and the psychological/social contagion that has piggy-backed off of it. What children ages 12-17 want most is a sense of identity. The vast majority of adolescents currently claiming to be transgender or wanting to be transgender are no more transgender than you or me. They're looking for identity and finding that particular one to be affirmed by peers and sometimes adults in the school setting. And, sometimes, not affirmed certainly. But, adults who push children into any sort of actual medical procedure or intervention prior to the age of 18 are guilty of abuse from my vantage point, whether that be a parent, teacher, or school-based professional. When a child turns 18, they should be allowed to do whatever they wish on the issue, but until then, we risk permanent harm to thousands and thousands of children who have nothing more than an adolescent identity crisis meeting up with a current psychological contagion. 

Good post, and agreed. But per the bolded, I think this has been grossly overblown. How common do you really think this is, and is there any data supporting adults "pushing" kids into gender affirming care? I would think it's the reverse, as kids desiring identity are suddenly pushing it on their parents.

I don't know how I would react if one of my kids suddenly decided their gender was different than at birth. But I know well that it isn't anyone's business outside of my own family and medical providers. 

 

[HB Localboy 121]

Time for these freaks to be reminded they are freaks!

 

Get back in the closet, you  

[Tebok 308]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

You want to slob Trump's engorged knob?!

 

You're really casting Trump in the same light as a trans person as far as newsworthiness.

[jerryskids 6,559]

3 minutes ago, Tebok said:

You're really casting Trump in the same light as a trans person as far as newsworthiness.

You aren't obsessed with Trump?

 

[The Real timschochet 6,410]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Sadly, only one side of the aisle understands this.

No they don’t. 

As I have told @jerryskids and others many times, if Republicans simply wanted to pass laws restricting gender surgery to 18 and over I think most Democrats could agree to that. Personally it’s not what I would prefer, because I don’t like the state involved in decisions made between doctors and parents when public health is not a factor. But it’s a compromise I’m willing to accept: restrictions to protect children, leave adults alone. 

But your side isn’t doing this. You are not leaving adults alone. Transgender adults are being persecuted. Excluded from the military. Forced to change passport status. Targets of ridicule and hate crimes. Singled out by the President and his supporters and made to feel like pariahs or outcasts. And it’s the Republicans doing this. 

[TheNewGirl 1,347]

3 hours ago, squistion said:

No one wants to carve up children, no one is calling for it and no children have been carved up in this country.

False. 

https://www.cureus.com/articles/185716-temporal-trends-in-gender-affirmation-surgery-among-transgender-and-non-binary-minors#!/

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Results: A total of 108 TGNB minors were identified. The mean (SD) age was 16.9 (0.8) years without significant variation over time. There was a significant increase in the number of GAS per year over four years (P<.001). Nevertheless, only two (1.9%) patients underwent GAS below the age of 15 (13.9 and 14.5 years). Chest masculinization surgery (CMS) was the predominant procedure type among TGNB minors (n=102, 94.4%). There was no incidence of major complications (mortality, bleeding, sepsis, unplanned intubation) except for unplanned reoperation for hematoma evacuation (n=3, 2.8%). The incidence of minor complications (surgical site infection, wound dehiscence) was low (n=1, 0.9%), each).

Conclusions and relevance: GAS in minors, primarily in the form of CMS, has been increasing over time. CMS in minors is a safe procedure with rare complications.

 

Children HAVE had gender affirming surgery (GAS) and it's increasing over time. This study was done in 2023. 

Mainly, females are removing their breasts. 

[Fumbleweed 516]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Good post, and agreed. But per the bolded, I think this has been grossly overblown. How common do you really think this is, and is there any data supporting adults "pushing" kids into gender affirming care? I would think it's the reverse, as kids desiring identity are suddenly pushing it on their parents.

I don't know how I would react if one of my kids suddenly decided their gender was different than at birth. But I know well that it isn't anyone's business outside of my own family and medical providers. 

 

I see it all the time because our counselors, social workers, etc. that are just coming out of graduate school have been indoctrinated with the idea that gender affirming care means that the moment a child expresses a thought about gender, you affirm it and help them find the path towards happiness/fulfillment as it pertains to that part of their life. Add in teachers with strong views aided mostly by leftist propaganda and the "push" is very real. And, I live in freaking Oklahoma. There's no telling how much more common that push is in other parts of the country. 

[League Champion 1,896]

4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

I try to stay abreast of the topics of the day in the Geek Club! It’s drag queens, trannys, Joe Biden is a Ukrainian drug lord, and bible verses!

Yet here you are, every minute of everyday  

[Fnord 2,051]

3 minutes ago, Fumbleweed said:

I see it all the time because our counselors, social workers, etc. that are just coming out of graduate school have been indoctrinated with the idea that gender affirming care means that the moment a child expresses a thought about gender, you affirm it and help them find the path towards happiness/fulfillment as it pertains to that part of their life. Add in teachers with strong views aided mostly by leftist propaganda and the "push" is very real. And, I live in freaking Oklahoma. There's no telling how much more common that push is in other parts of the country. 

Thanks. Isn't affirmation an important part of counseling, though? Being supportive of students finding their happiness, chasing their bliss, self discovery, etc? That is a far cry from openly advocating for surgical intervention. Is your contention that many of these counselors are jumping right into promoting surgery?

[TBayXXXVII 2,482]

45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No they don’t. 

As I have told @jerryskids and others many times, if Republicans simply wanted to pass laws restricting gender surgery to 18 and over I think most Democrats could agree to that. Personally it’s not what I would prefer, because I don’t like the state involved in decisions made between doctors and parents when public health is not a factor. But it’s a compromise I’m willing to accept: restrictions to protect children, leave adults alone. 

But your side isn’t doing this. You are not leaving adults alone. Transgender adults are being persecuted. Excluded from the military. Forced to change passport status. Targets of ridicule and hate crimes. Singled out by the President and his supporters and made to feel like pariahs or outcasts. And it’s the Republicans doing this. 

If a bill were proposed in congress that gender surgery is illegal for anyone under the age of 18 (always), AND no government agency will pay for anyone over 18 (meaning prisoners like Harris promoted), including no trans people allowed in "WOMEN's" changing / dressing / locker / bath rooms, 100% of Republican's would sign it.  Willing to bet there wouldn't be 100% on the left.

I will grant the premise that Republican's do not want mentally ill people in the military.