Packers submit proposal to ban "tush push"

[Hardcore troubadour 15,704]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

To be honest, the only Superbowl that matters is the last one. Who cares what happened in 2012? Nobody remembers or cares 

Yeah. No one remembers 18-1. You’re being clownish now. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,301]

4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

14 years ago? Tampa Bay says hold my beer  

Recency bias?  Is that what you think? 

13 NFL Championships. 13.  Count'em.

You win TWO and suddenly think you're all that and a bag of chips?   That might work against vikings fans, but know your place when you're trying to stack yourself up against the Packers. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah. No one remembers 18-1. You’re being clownish now. 

You care, nobody else does. I have no problem with it, you're a Giants fan, you should remember it. It means nothing to the rest of us. 

I'm already over the Eagles Superbowl win and onto this season. That's how it works when you have something to look forward to.  

[jbycho 754]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

  

I just checked. The Philadelphia Eagles are still Super Bowl champs.  

Mdc's greatest personal achievement in life. 

[thegeneral 3,395]

Good on the NFL to shut down these crybaby whiners. At least those that voted no. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,704]

It’s just boring. Thats all. 

[listen2me 23 1,924]

When a team has an all pro kick returner they just paid and a team submits something to change the kickoff rules each year....they havent cried about taking away their strength.  

Some how Philthy and their "tush push" is sacred.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

It's over fellas. The NFL has spoken.  

Get over it. 

 

[TBayXXXVII 2,615]

I'm not sure what the issue is, regarding the Eagles.  I think it's overblown.  The Eagles converted on 83% of their attempts, the NFL league-wide (excluding the Eagles), converted on 71%.  So, out of 10 attempts, the Eagles convert one more time than the rest of the league.  That's not a big deal.  I think if other teams actually did it and practiced it more, they'd be just as successful... so, a whole ONE more successful attempt out of 10.

I personally don't think the play should be allowed because the person with the ball isn't even running.  The players pushing the QB, lift him off the ground.  Why is that even legal?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,704]

It’s focking boring. Now the rest of the league will copy and it will get even more boring.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s focking boring. Now the rest of the league will copy and it will get even more boring.  

It's definitely boring, I agree. But it's part.of the game now. Defend better and don't let teams get in that situation.  

[MDC 7,652]

Is the usual QB sneak exciting?  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,704]

29 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

It's definitely boring, I agree. But it's part.of the game now. Defend better and don't let teams get in that situation.  

It’s not like it’s some genius play only the eagles can do. Now you’ll see everyone doing it and it will evolve into Tight ends and running backs taking the snap. Awesome. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,704]

I don’t remember QB’s getting pushed on sneaks years ago.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s not like it’s some genius play only the eagles can do. Now you’ll see everyone doing it and it will evolve into Tight ends and running backs taking the snap. Awesome. 

I hear ya but I don't think it's much different from a fans perspective than watching a fat ass AJ Dillon pound it in from the half yard line. Again,  I couldn't care less one way or the other. Do away with it for all I care. The Eagles o-line will get a yard every time anyhow 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,704]

You can’t use percentages when gauging this play. 1st and goal from the 1 and 4th and goal are far apart. As a matter of fact, a coach would be stuoid to try and defend it on 1st and goal from the one. Just let them score if there is time left. I’m not risking my D players for such a low risk chance. 

[Engorgeous George 2,332]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I'm not sure what the issue is, regarding the Eagles.  I think it's overblown.  The Eagles converted on 83% of their attempts, the NFL league-wide (excluding the Eagles), converted on 71%.  So, out of 10 attempts, the Eagles convert one more time than the rest of the league.  That's not a big deal.  I think if other teams actually did it and practiced it more, they'd be just as successful... so, a whole ONE more successful attempt out of 10.

I personally don't think the play should be allowed because the person with the ball isn't even running.  The players pushing the QB, lift him off the ground.  Why is that even legal?

I think they should have a dwarf they can toss over the pile.

[Engorgeous George 2,332]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

Is the usual QB sneak exciting?  

I found Bart Starr's sneak in the Ice Bowl exciting.  I note that Chuck Mercein did not push him from behind.  He did it on his own with great blocks from his line, maybe Jerry Kramer, and Ken Bowman.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

5 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I think they should have a dwarf they can toss over the pile.

Ratings would quadruple overnight! 

[TBayXXXVII 2,615]

52 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I think they should have a dwarf they can toss over the pile.

See, that's exactly why I don't understand why the tush push is even legal to begin with.  What you stated is illegal.  What's the difference between carrying and throwing?  In both cases, the person moving the ball isn't on the ground. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,704]

What a thing of beauty it was when Walter Payton took flight.  

[Engorgeous George 2,332]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What a thing of beauty it was when Walter Payton took flight.  

Marcus Allen had the leap down as well.  

 

As a Packer fan i had to give Payton his due.  He was a good to great back in pretty much every game he played, but he was otherwordly against the Packers and there is no denying that.  Hell, he even blocked a kick against the Packers after he past away.  That is performance.

[Fnord 2,374]

The play should be illegal, but whatever. Wait til Hurts gets damn near decapitated and misses a bunch of games on one of these plays, and the NFL will change their mind.

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

Just now, Fnord said:

The play should be illegal, but whatever. Wait til Hurts gets damn near decapitated and misses a bunch of games on one of these plays, and the NFL will change their mind.

Every team does it, you idiot  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,301]

Just now, Fnord said:

The play should be illegal, but whatever. Wait til Hurts gets damn near decapitated and misses a bunch of games on one of these plays, and the NFL will change their mind.

Agreed.  I don't want anyone to get hurt playing football, but in this case I certainly hope it happens because Eagles fans are the absolute WORST fanbase not just in the NFL, but in ALL of professional sports.

[Fnord 2,374]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Agreed.  I don't want anyone to get hurt playing football, but in this case I certainly hope it happens because Eagles fans are the absolute WORST fanbase not just in the NFL, but in ALL of professional sports.

I mean, I don't want guys to get hurt either, but I'll be pretty pissed if someone like Josh Allen (or the Vikes new savior, JJ McCarthy) got hurt instead of Hurts.

Fuckit, who am I kidding? It will definitely be McCarthy that gets decapitated and has his career ruined. The NFL changes rules only after the Vikings suffer ridiculous, humiliating defeats due to stupid rules.

[Engorgeous George 2,332]

8 hours ago, Fnord said:

I mean, I don't want guys to get hurt either, but I'll be pretty pissed if someone like Josh Allen (or the Vikes new savior, JJ McCarthy) got hurt instead of Hurts.

Fuckit, who am I kidding? It will definitely be McCarthy that gets decapitated and has his career ruined. The NFL changes rules only after the Vikings suffer ridiculous, humiliating defeats due to stupid rules.

Let's face it, the League has not done anything to the Vikes nearly as bad as did Mike Lynn.

[Fnord 2,374]

4 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Let's fce it, the League has not done anything to the Vikes nearly as bad as did Mike Lynn.

No argument there. 

[jbycho 754]

4 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Let's fce it, the League has not done anything to the Vikes nearly as bad as did Mike Lynn.

Or Tony Orlando for that matter. 

[MDC 7,652]

Rut roh, Andy Reid and Chefs crying about it after Sunday loss.

  

[Sean Mooney 2,015]

The new thing is grumbling about the line being offside- which they are...

But I fail to see how a few extra inches will prevent them from getting the first down. 

[Ron_Artest 1,856]

It's still terrible football to watch.  They should just run it every down.

[Mike Honcho 5,344]

The "tush-push" was an illegal play nearly 100 years, then in 2005 they removed rule against pushing a ball carrier forward. Making it illegal again would not be that big of a deal. 

[edjr 6,732]

9 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

The "tush-push" was an illegal play nearly 100 years, then in 2005 they removed rule against pushing a ball carrier forward. Making it illegal again would not be that big of a deal. 

Yup.

NFL's fault. 

[WhiteWonder 2,858]

the offense gets forward progress when the D pushes a ball carrier backwards.  Why should they also get forward progress when an offensive player pushes the ball carrier forward? that's the dumbest part of the play. Normally I am all for "if you don't like it, stop it" but it's never made sense to me that a ball carrier can be pushed forward once they got rid of the D being able to push a guy back... whenever that was implemented. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

48 minutes ago, MDC said:

Rut roh, Andy Reid and Chefs crying about it after Sunday loss.

  

Wait, Andy Reid can call the Tush Push too, anyone can right??? 

Ohh wait, his peasy headed frog sounding QB can't dead lift 600 plus pounds!  

@Ron_Artest @cmh6476

[Fnord 2,374]

What's finally going to kill this insult to football is that the refs have no good way to spot the ball on half of these plays. There's no visibility under the pile. This play is an affront to how football is supposed to be played, and should not be allowed.

[Maximum Overkill 2,272]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

What's finally going to kill this insult to football is that the refs have no good way to spot the ball on half of these plays. There's no visibility under the pile. This play is an affront to how football is supposed to be played, and should not be allowed.

Agree, but don't blame Philly because they're better at it than everyone else. I'm not sure why everyone is upset at Philly. Until it's officially banned, I'd run it even more if I had Jalen Hurts. 

Call Goodell and biatch to him 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,704]

It’s boring. That game was ruined b/c of it. 

[listen2me 23 1,924]

If they are going to keep the rainbow play then not sure why all the rules of football have to go out the window.