Yeah...I'm a bit worried

[supermike80 1,795]

The tariffs seem like a bad idea on the surface.   The economy is slowing down, too quickly.   The Ukraine issue.   

I do not regret my vote for Trump.  No way I could vote for Kamala.   But I can't sit here and tell you I am confident all that is happening right now gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.  It's early, time will tell, but yeah, I'm a bit nervous.

[HB Localboy 121]

Simmer down Nancy! Everything is going to be fine. The problem is the democrats trying to start a civil war not Trump!

[posty 2,608]

26 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

The tariffs seem like a bad idea on the surface.   The economy is slowing down, too quickly.   The Ukraine issue.   

I do not regret my vote for Trump.  No way I could vote for Kamala.   But I can't sit here and tell you I am confident all that is happening right now gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.  It's early, time will tell, but yeah, I'm a bit nervous.

Same here…. I hope things do work out in the long run with the decisions he is making, but it just doesn’t feel that way after the first month or so…

[edjr 6,578]

22 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

The tariffs seem like a bad idea on the surface.   The economy is slowing down, too quickly.   The Ukraine issue.   

I do not regret my vote for Trump.  No way I could vote for Kamala.   But I can't sit here and tell you I am confident all that is happening right now gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.  It's early, time will tell, but yeah, I'm a bit nervous.

I appreciate an honest person. We need more ya'll

[HB Localboy 121]

Demoncrats trying to start WWIII in Europe.  The DEMONcrats are the party of the devil.

[Fnord 2,051]

To me, the tariffs are less concerning than some of the other things going on. If Trump holds true to form and the tariffs fail miserably, the outcry will probably get him to reverse the decision, especially if he's getting an earful from Wall St. It will take a lot longer for the fallout and public outcry to surface in the wake of many of his other actions, especially from his voters. By that time, too much damage may have been done to easily reverse.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

30 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

The tariffs seem like a bad idea on the surface.   The economy is slowing down, too quickly.   The Ukraine issue.   

I do not regret my vote for Trump.  No way I could vote for Kamala.   But I can't sit here and tell you I am confident all that is happening right now gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.  It's early, time will tell, but yeah, I'm a bit nervous.

Short term pain for long-term gain.  I mean, the problem we have in society now is that no one can ever experience even the slightest bit of discomfort and when they do IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!

I think we need to give it some time.  It's simply absurd that other countries can levy tariffs against willy-nilly but when the US does it suddenly IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD and the usual far left idiots here act like hysterical teenage girls.  We can't keep having other countries take advantage of us, taking OUR money and we get nothing in return.  That's money that can be used for Americans.  The amount of money that's being taken from us we could probably have free healthcare, free education or lower taxes.

[HB Localboy 121]

Trump is saving America, you dimwitted dolts!

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

To me, the tariffs are less concerning than some of the other things going on. If Trump holds true to form and the tariffs fail miserably, the outcry will probably get him to reverse the decision, especially if he's getting an earful from Wall St. It will take a lot longer for the fallout and public outcry to surface in the wake of many of his other actions, especially from his voters. By that time, too much damage may have been done to easily reverse.

Yeah.  This secure border and deporting criminals is very frustrating 

[Strike 5,182]

Can't disagree with you @supermike80, and not just on the Tariffs.  We'll see what happens, and no way I would have voted for Kamalatoe, but if only for the border issue there was no way I could vote for anyone other than Trump. 

[Fnord 2,051]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Short term pain for long-term gain.  I mean, the problem we have in society now is that no one can ever experience even the slightest bit of discomfort and when they do IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!

I think we need to give it some time.  It's simply absurd that other countries can levy tariffs against willy-nilly but when the US does it suddenly IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD and the usual far left idiots here act like hysterical teenage girls.  We can't keep having other countries take advantage of us, taking OUR money and we get nothing in return.  That's money that can be used for Americans.  The amount of money that's being taken from us we could probably have free healthcare, free education or lower taxes.

I mostly agree with you here. It remains to be seen what the effects are, and I hope that it goes better than many expect.

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah.  This secure border and deporting criminals is very frustrating 

Less people are being deported today than under Biden. But if it makes you feel good to believe otherwise, go for it.

[jonmx 2,424]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

 

Less people are being deported today than under Biden. But if it makes you feel good to believe otherwise, go for it.

Biden was letting in 5000 illegals per day and calling them asylum seekers.  It is now down to around 200.  Don't be so disingenious with your stats.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I mostly agree with you here. It remains to be seen what the effects are, and I hope that it goes better than many expect.

Less people are being deported today than under Biden. But if it makes you feel good to believe otherwise, go for it.

I referenced criminals being deported. And turning away someone at the border and telling them to come back tomorrow isn’t a deportation in my book. Maybe it is in yours cause that’s what they tell you. 

[MDC 7,113]

A month into office and buyer’s remorse already setting in. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

A month into office and buyer’s remorse already setting in. 

Absolutely no one is saying that who voted for Trump.

[jonmx 2,424]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I referenced criminals being deported. And turning away someone at the border and telling them to come back tomorrow isn’t a deportation in my book. Maybe it is in yours cause that’s what they tell you. 

 

The Biden/Harris border policy was insane.  They were 100 percent lying pieces of crap when it came to their border policy, telling the public one thing while actually doing the complete opposite.   

[Fnord 2,051]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Biden was letting in 5000 illegals per day and calling them asylum seekers.  It is now down to around 200.  Don't be so disingenious with your stats.  

This is not disingenuous. It is fact. Less people being deported today than during Biden's last year.

[thegeneral 2,880]

Is it true Trump has fired more federal employees than he has deported illegals?

That seems a bit reckless.

[MDC 7,113]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Absolutely no one is saying that who voted for Trump.

It’s just dawning on MAGAs now that tariffs and layoffs aren’t going to bring down prices and trolling on X doesn’t put food on the table.

[Fnord 2,051]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Absolutely no one is saying that who voted for Trump.

Not true. Do some online research into midwest farmers and how they're getting bent over by USAID being torn down. People will lose their farms.

[jonmx 2,424]

13 minutes ago, MDC said:

A month into office and buyer’s remorse already setting in. 

I am actually ecstatic beyond belief.   I never imagined Trump's assault on the deep state would happen so rapidly.  It was always my #1 issue and I am extremely pleased.  His handling of Ukraine is refreshing.   Just need to convince that the deep state Ukrainian puppet to negotiate for a peace agreement.  

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

16 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Short term pain for long-term gain.  I mean, the problem we have in society now is that no one can ever experience even the slightest bit of discomfort and when they do IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!

I think we need to give it some time.  It's simply absurd that other countries can levy tariffs against willy-nilly but when the US does it suddenly IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD and the usual far left idiots here act like hysterical teenage girls.  We can't keep having other countries take advantage of us, taking OUR money and we get nothing in return.  That's money that can be used for Americans.  The amount of money that's being taken from us we could probably have free healthcare, free education or lower taxes.

I understand, though disagree, that a justification can be made for tariffs when other countries have unfair trading practices against us. 
But that’s not the case with Mexico and Canada. We had trade agreements that I be line were pretty fair- first NAFTA, and then the one Trump negotiated: which to his credit was even better than NAFTA. Now we have unilaterally torn those up. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

I’m fine with everything he is doing.  Shame on us for not doing anything about the ridiculous trade imbalance all these years.  The trade-off is that we’ll have more goods manufactured in the country, and that’s a good thing from a jobs and national security standpoint. The downside is we may face higher prices on imported goods. That’s one trade I’m willing to make.

[Fnord 2,051]

@EternalShinyAndChrome

Check this out.

And this

[jonmx 2,424]

9 minutes ago, Fnord said:

This is not disingenuous. It is fact. Less people being deported today than during Biden's last year.

Spun up lies.  They were not deporting anyone, they just had them come back later because they could only handle about 4000 to 5000 illegals coming in a day.  They had to arrange transportation and only had so much funding for housing and gift cards (from the money they robbed from FEMA, BTW).  Biden was allowing some 15 million illegals into this country and flipping the bill for most of their expenses, it was insane.  But here you are defending the corrupt POS.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

9 minutes ago, Fnord said:

This is not disingenuous. It is fact. Less people being deported today than during Biden's last year.

Do you care to comment on the fact that only 8,450 people were arrested crossing the border last month?  It’s the lowest level since 2000, and perhaps even the 1960’s.  Trump shut the border down air-tight - something Biden insisted was impossible for the Executive to do.

[HB Localboy 121]

Trump is draining the swamp and putting America first again

 Only the most retarded retards can't see this obvious truth. Retards and libtards are the biggest threat to our republic. Don't be a TARD!

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

I imagine there are some liberals out there who take pleasure in some of the Trump supporters expressing nervousness about what’s going on. I’m not one of them. I wish things were working out better. I hope they still do. 

Most of the folks who voted for Donald Trump are, IMO, decent and well meaning people who wanted what’s best for this country and believed (mistakenly IMO) that he was the correct choice. I would prefer they not be punished for that mistake. 

[Fnord 2,051]

2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Do you care to comment on the fact that only 8,000 people were arrested crossing the border last month?  It’s the lowest level since 2000, and perhaps even the 1960’s.  

Sure. What would you like me to say? Trump's policies are having the desired effect. That's a policy win for him and those that voted for him. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

4 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I’m fine with everything he is doing.  Shame on us for not doing anything about the ridiculous trade imbalance all these years.  The trade-off is that we’ll have more goods manufactured in the country, and that’s a good thing from a jobs and national security standpoint. The downside is we may face higher prices on imported goods. That’s one trade I’m willing to make.

Serious question: in what way do trade imbalances hurt us? I’ve never understood this. 

[MDC 7,113]

Just wait til we’re six months in and have higher unemployment and inflation than when Trump took over. That’s when the buyer’s remorse will really set in. 

[Ron_Artest 1,032]

29 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Short term pain for long-term gain.  I mean, the problem we have in society now is that no one can ever experience even the slightest bit of discomfort and when they do IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!

I think we need to give it some time.  It's simply absurd that other countries can levy tariffs against willy-nilly but when the US does it suddenly IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD and the usual far left idiots here act like hysterical teenage girls.  We can't keep having other countries take advantage of us, taking OUR money and we get nothing in return.  That's money that can be used for Americans.  The amount of money that's being taken from us we could probably have free healthcare, free education or lower taxes.

The narrative that countries are taking advantage of us was created by Trump and is simply not true.

[jbycho 579]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I imagine there are some liberals out there who take pleasure in some of the Trump supporters expressing nervousness about what’s going on. I’m not one of them. I wish things were working out better. I hope they still do. 

Most of the folks who voted for Donald Trump are, IMO, decent and well meaning people who wanted what’s best for this country and believed (mistakenly IMO) that he was the correct choice. I would prefer they not be punished for that mistake. 

Trump is kicking ass. Winning. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Sure. What would you like me to say? Trump's policies are having the desired effect. That's a policy win for him and those that voted for him. 

It’s a ridiculously good result - not a “desired effect”.   Biden’s February 2024 illegal border crossings were 140,841.  Trump’s February 2025 number was 8,326.

[jonmx 2,424]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I imagine there are some liberals out there who take pleasure in some of the Trump supporters expressing nervousness about what’s going on. I’m not one of them. I wish things were working out better. I hope they still do. 

Most of the folks who voted for Donald Trump are, IMO, decent and well meaning people who wanted what’s best for this country and believed (mistakenly IMO) that he was the correct choice. I would prefer they not be punished for that mistake. 

 

You do realize these tariffs are not going to be long term.  Trump just wants to make it painful enough to bring people to the negotiating table to get some concessions so we can have a more balanced trade deficit.  Trump immigration policy is too strict in my view, but closing the border is a must.   Trump is about 90 percent in my book, which gives him an A

  

[Ron_Artest 1,032]

16 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Absolutely no one is saying that who voted for Trump.

Oh yes they are.

[edjr 6,578]

19 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Absolutely no one is saying that who voted for Trump.

  okay squissy. Keep up the lies

[Fnord 2,051]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I imagine there are some liberals out there who take pleasure in some of the Trump supporters expressing nervousness about what’s going on. I’m not one of them. I wish things were working out better. I hope they still do. 

Most of the folks who voted for Donald Trump are, IMO, decent and well meaning people who wanted what’s best for this country and believed (mistakenly IMO) that he was the correct choice. I would prefer they not be punished for that mistake. 

You don't need to imagine anything, it's out there, and it's gross.

I went down a youtube rabbit hole over the weekend, which is something I rarely do. There are a lot of videos of farmers that are talking about how screwed they are since USAID got shut down and took away funding from large contracts these farmers signed and were depending on to make ends meet. Many of the presumably liberal responses were basically "fock you, you voted for it, don't complain." That sentiment is valid, but the glee they took in these people's lives being upended was... uninspiring, to put it in the nicest possible terms. Other terms might be inhumane, disturbing, out of touch, vile, disgusting... you get the idea.

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

4 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

You do realize these tariffs are not going to be long term.  Trump just wants to make it painful enough to bring people to the negotiating table to get some concessions so we can have a more balanced trade deficit.  Trump immigration policy is too strict in my view, but closing the border is a must.   Trump is about 90 percent in my book, which gives him an A

  

I don’t realize this. I have no idea what concessions we’re trying to get out of Canada and Mexico who we already have good trade deals with. Supposedly these were put on to get the border under control. But I’m told the border already is under control. So what is the purpose here? I don’t know; do you? I DO know that once trade wars start they are hard to extricate from. Canada has already retaliated. Now what? 

[HellToupee 1,583]

There is a reason they make heavy flow pads