Trump defies the courts, Sends migrants to El Sal Prison

[Maximum Overkill 1,738]

54 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Trump continues to defy the courts.  Constitutional crisis.

I know, right  

[The Psychic Observer 495]

The Trump administration insisted Sunday that it is not required to work with officials in El Salvador to secure the return of a man mistakenly deported to the country, days after the Supreme Court endorsed a federal judge’s directive that US officials must “facilitate” bringing him back stateside.

[The Psychic Observer 495]

+600 that Garcia ends up dead.  Either suicide or gets killed by another inmate.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,112]

You can't make this up. Garcia is an El Salvador citizen. The Supreme Court ruled in Trump's favor. Here's Steven Miller laying it all out. Democrats want the US to kidnap an El Salvador citizen and bring him back to the US.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1911774232435962344?s=19

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4 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

+600 that Garcia ends up dead.  Either suicide or gets killed by another inmate.

You gonna cry?

[squistion 1,944]

45 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

You can't make this up. Garcia is an El Salvador citizen. The Supreme Court ruled in Trump's favor. Here's Steven Miller laying it all out. Democrats want the US to kidnap an El Salvador citizen and bring him back to the US.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1911774232435962344?s=19

The Trump administration called Garcia's deportation "an administrative error".

At the time of his arrest and deportation, a U.S. immigration judge's order from 2019 protected him from removal to El Salvador, and he was legally present in the U.S.

[HellToupee 1,583]

1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

You can't make this up. Garcia is an El Salvador citizen. The Supreme Court ruled in Trump's favor. Here's Steven Miller laying it all out. Democrats want the US to kidnap an El Salvador citizen and bring him back to the US.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1911774232435962344?s=19

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eric Daugherty

 

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BOOM! Top Trump advisor Stephen Miller just went BERSERK for 3 minutes straight on Fox over the media narrative that Trump must bring home Kilmar Abrego Garcia from El Salvador. Miller perfectly debunked this ENTIRE claim that Garcia's deportation was an "error." This entire thing is a MASTERCLASS. "We won the Supreme Court case. Clearly, 9-0, a district court judge said, unconscionably, that the president and his administration have to go into El Salvador and extradite one of their citizens, an El Salvadorian citizen - that would be kidnapping." "That we have to kidnap an El Salvadorian citizen against the will of his government and fly him back to America, which would be an unimaginable act and an invasion of El Salvador's sovereignty. So he appealed to the Supreme Court and it said - clearly, no district court can compel the president to exercise his Article II foreign powers." "DOJ called me after that Supreme Court ruling and they said, this is amazing. We won this case nine zero. We are an excellent standing here. So this has been portrayed wrong for 72 hours in the media." "They said the most a court could ever compel you to do would be to facilitate return, which would basically mean if El Salvador voluntarily sends him back we wouldn't block him at the airport. We would put him back into ICE detention and then he would be deported either back to El Salvador or somewhere else." "In 2019, he was ordered deported. He is a final removal order from the United States. These are things that no one disputes. Where is he from? El Salvador. Where is he a resident and citizen of? El Salvador. Is he here illegally? Yes. Does he have a deportation order? Yes." "A DOJ lawyer who has since been relieved of duty, a saboteur, a Democrat, put into a filing incorrectly that this was a mistaken and removal. It was NOT! This was the right person sent to the right place." "Now some have said, well, but he had a thing called a 'withholding order.' A withholding order means you've been ordered deported, but an immigration judge is saying you cannot go back to a particular country. Here's the thing: if you are a member of a foreign terrorist organization, you cannot have a withholding order." "Since he's in MS-13, there is no withholding order. Furthermore, that gang he is accused of being persecuted by doesn't exist anymore in El Salvador! The 18th Street gang is GONE." "So you have an illegal alien from El Salvador. Bill, where are we supposed to send the illegal alien from El Salvador? To what country?" HOST: Are you convinced he is still a member of MS-13? That was your original charge. MILLER: "Yes. Do you stand by But here's the thing, Bill. Yes, but not only am I convinced of it, not only is El Salvador convinced of it. Bill, he's an illegal alien from El Salvador with a deportation order! So his only options in life, Bill, his only options in life are to be deported to El Salvador or to be deported to some other country. That's IT."

@StephenM

 

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yes please 

 

 

 

 

Eric Daugherty

 

@EricLDaugh

 

 

 

JUST NOW - STEPHEN MILLER: "There is no upper limit to the agreement. We're going to CONTINUE to send foreign terrorist aliens to El Salvador, as well as to many other countries."

[The Psychic Observer 495]

Trump admits citizens are next to be sent to El Salvador.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1911824313553928513

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1911816696056230139

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3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Trump admits citizens are next to be sent to El Salvador.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1911824313553928513

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1911816696056230139

What else does X tell you to believe? 

[The Psychic Observer 495]

Trump refuses to answer question and throws hissy fit

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1911812847333441877

Open defiance of the supreme court order.  But he's not an authoritarian people say.

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4 minutes ago, jbycho said:

What else does X tell you to believe? 

 

3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Trump refuses to answer question and throws hissy fit

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1911812847333441877

Open defiance of the supreme court order.  But he's not an authoritarian people say.

 

[Cdub100 3,824]

The hills Democrats chose to die on are fantastic.

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

While I am very much rooting against Trump and Stephen Miller on this, they may have a point. I don’t know.  I wish I knew better what the Supreme Court meant by the word “facillitate”. I wish they explained it better. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,910]

Trump did an impromptu presser at 2 am on AF 1. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

So this is what I’m hearing on the news: John Roberts thought this was a perfect time to repudiate the Trump administration for bypassing the law, and to do that he wanted a 9-0 decision. But in order to get Alito and Thomas to agree, he had to change the language from “expedite” to “facilitate”. Now Miller and Trump have taken that word, “facilitate”, and driven a Mack truck through it. Miller claims that it only means that IF El Salvador decides of their own accord to send the guy back then the USA must accommodate that, but if El Salvador does nothing then the USA need do nothing. What a mess. 
 

I see two options: 

1. A lower court tacitly accepts Miller’s interpretation. I suspect this is the most likely option, because the alternative would surely create a firestorm: 

2. The lower court holds the government in contempt. If they want to be really brave they can start putting people in jail (like Tom Homan). Of course the government appeals and this goes right back to the SC to explain what “facilitate” means. I’m guessing in that instance it wouldn’t be a 9-0 decision. 
 

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26 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Trump refuses to answer question and throws hissy fit

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1911812847333441877

Open defiance of the supreme court order.  But he's not an authoritarian people say.

Open defiance? "Facilitate" means allow, perhaps help, but not insist.  Does El Salvador want to send him back, and we won't take him?

[Frozenbeernuts 2,112]

39 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

The hills Democrats chose to die on are fantastic.

It's insanity. This is part of the reason their party is being dismantled.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,112]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

The Trump administration called Garcia's deportation "an administrative error".

At the time of his arrest and deportation, a U.S. immigration judge's order from 2019 protected him from removal to El Salvador, and he was legally present in the U.S.

I really don't understand how the US court would have any say in forcing El Salvador to send one of their own citizens to the US. Why do you want an El Salvador citizen sent here?

[squistion 1,944]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I really don't understand how the US court would have any say in forcing El Salvador to send one of their own citizens to the US. Why do you want an El Salvador citizen sent here?

He was in this country legally at the time and under a U.S. immigration judge's order from 2019 which protected him from removal to El Salvador,  

[The Psychic Observer 495]

24 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Open defiance? "Facilitate" means allow, perhaps help, but not insist.  Does El Salvador want to send him back, and we won't take him?

El Salvador will do whatever we tell them to do.  It is clear trump wants him to die in that prison.

[The Psychic Observer 495]

6 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I really don't understand how the US court would have any say in forcing El Salvador to send one of their own citizens to the US. Why do you want an El Salvador citizen sent here?

He was in the US legally, has a wife and kids here, lives and worked here for 15 years.  No criminal record.  Why is it ok to send him to prison in El Salvador?

[avoiding injuries 1,505]

Uh oh. El Salvador president not sending Garcia back. If it’s already been posted, Fock off. 
https://x.com/behizytweets/status/1911813829304197313?s=46

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4 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

He was in the US legally, has a wife and kids here, lives and worked here for 15 years.  No criminal record.  Why is it ok to send him to prison in El Salvador?

Illegal. Bye bye. 

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12 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I really don't understand how the US court would have any say in forcing El Salvador to send one of their own citizens to the US. Why do you want an El Salvador citizen sent here?

Exactly. He’s a citizen of El Salvador. Absolutely Trump could pressure them to send him here. But about the only time I can think of we pressure foreign nations to extradite their citizens it’s for criminal prosecution. Facilitate may mean we offer to fly him back here. If Bukele says “no” to sending him, I’m not sure what the court would be able to say Trump should do. We all know he could pressure them and get him. Not every government would be able to be pressured though. 

[Mark Davis 338]

18 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

It's insanity. This is part of the reason their party is being dismantled.

As bad as the tariff news cycle has been for Trump, the Democrats keep helping him by being against everything Trump. Even the 80/20 or 90/10 type things. 

[The Psychic Observer 495]

4 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Illegal. Bye bye. 

He wasn't illegal.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,112]

9 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

He was in the US legally, has a wife and kids here, lives and worked here for 15 years.  No criminal record.  Why is it ok to send him to prison in El Salvador?

A gang banger with wife and kids who is an El Salvador citizen. Still not seeing the reason to keep him here.

[The Psychic Observer 495]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

A gang banger with wife and kids who is an El Salvador citizen. Still not seeing the reason to keep him here.

He was here legally and committed no crimes.  Trump already admitted it was a mistake to send him there but he won't bring him back despite the court telling him to 

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17 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

El Salvador will do whatever we tell them to do.  It is clear trump wants him to die in that prison.

This is Squis level stupid

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8 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

He wasn't illegal.

He is illegal. 

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9 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

He was here legally and committed no crimes

 

26 minutes ago, squistion said:

He was in this country legally at the time and under a U.S. immigration judge's order from 2019 which protected him from removal to El Salvador,  

Too bad so sad , he was illegally here

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Would it be facilitating his return to buy him an openended airline ticket, say business class, from El Salvador to Washington D.C. and placing it with his belongings at the prison so he could use it when he gets out?  We he also need some sort of temporary or one use Visa included with the ticket?

 

Frankly I do not know what actions would amount to or fulfill the obligation to facilitate.

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25 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Would it be facilitating his return to buy him an openended airline ticket, say business class, from El Salvador to Washington D.C. and placing it with his belongings at the prison so he could use it when he gets out?  We he also need some sort of temporary or one use Visa included with the ticket?

 

Frankly I do not know what actions would amount to or fulfill the obligation to facilitate.

I'd guess something like arranging a flight.  I can't think of where we request countries to send us their citizens other than extradition for criminal prosecution.  That's not what this is so very much a one off type situation.  I doubt this is covered by any treaty, so they may simply decline.

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9 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

I'd guess something like arranging a flight.  I can't think of where we request countries to send us their citizens other than extradition for criminal prosecution.  That's not what this is so very much a one off type situation.  I doubt this is covered by any treaty, so they may simply decline.

We can request that, but can't request extradition for accidental criminal detention. 

Regardless, this has got to be a serious human rights violation, the guy seemingly is in prison having committed no crime. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,112]

1 hour ago, Mark Davis said:

As bad as the tariff news cycle has been for Trump, the Democrats keep helping him by being against everything Trump. Even the 80/20 or 90/10 type things. 

Corporate media has already proven to be lying on close to 100% of their stories. If they are against Trump on every issue, it tells us everything we need to know about who is being genuine. This isn't 2019. Very few people trust them on anything.

It's really as simple as whatever stance CNN and MSNBC liberal anchors take, it's probably a good 90% chance they are wrong or lying. It's easy to take Trump's side then.

[Strike 5,182]

Lefties need to quit saying he was here legally.  He was NOT.  He had a final order of deportation.  The ONLY reason some lefty judge didn't let him be deported before was his argument that a rival gang would kill him if he returned to El Salvador.  But now he CLAIMS he's not a gang member.  Hmmmmm........Plus, the gang he's a member of has been classified as a terrorist organization which may change things as well.  In any case, he was NOT here legally.  Quit saying that.

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

Lefties need to quit saying he was here legally.  He was NOT.  He had a final order of deportation.  The ONLY reason some lefty judge didn't let him be deported before was his argument that a rival gang would kill him if he returned to El Salvador.  But now he CLAIMS he's not a gang member.  Hmmmmm........Plus, the gang he's a member of has been classified as a terrorist organization which may change things as well.  In any case, he was NOT here legally.  Quit saying that.

But aside from his illegality he was here legally.  Just learn to set some things aside. 

[Gepetto 1,285]

8 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

The Trump administration insisted Sunday that it is not required to work with officials in El Salvador to secure the return of a man mistakenly deported to the country, days after the Supreme Court endorsed a federal judge’s directive that US officials must “facilitate” bringing him back stateside.

US Court has no control internationally.

[Strike 5,182]

Trump and Bukele tore CNN a new a-hole today at their press conference, to the point that CNN had to declare that they don't hate America on air. 

WINNING!!