Kilmar Abrego Garcia & Trump El Salvador deportations thread.

[TimHauck 2,990]

17 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I always admit when I am wrong its people like you who do not

Dude it took you like 3 weeks to admit this one, you were initially doubling, tripling and quadrupling down

[The Real timschochet 6,932]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Here we are again, projecting your way of thinking and behaving on me.   Please dont pretend I am a coward like you.

I stand corrected on this point, I have investigated this topic more thoroughly, and unlike a focking pathetic liberal piece of sh!t like you I can admit when I am wrong.

OK but WHY were you wrong about this? It’s not because you did anything bad yourself. It was because you got it from a source that deliberately lied to you. And that is a much larger problem. 
 

Here is my contention: the mainstream media isn’t always accurate, sometimes reports news with a bias, but generally tries to be objective. Right wing media deliberately offers misleading and false information which they know people like you want to hear. So long as you get your news from right wing media, you are ALWAYS going to be misinformed. This won’t be a one-off. 

[RLLD 4,271]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

OK but WHY were you wrong about this? It’s not because you did anything bad yourself. It was because you got it from a source that deliberately lied to you. And that is a much larger problem. 
 

Here is my contention: the mainstream media isn’t always accurate, sometimes reports news with a bias, but generally tries to be objective. Right wing media deliberately offers misleading and false information which they know people like you want to hear. So long as you get your news from right wing media, you are ALWAYS going to be misinformed. This won’t be a one-off. 

I am wrong, in part , for the same reason you are wrong on the economy and tariffs, I failed to ingest all the require sources of information.t

The legacy media cannot be trusted.  Saying they arent always right was once a fair statement before Trump.  But now they lie with such ease and lack of restraint that anything they might report should result in us starting from the position that it is a lie, and then we have to go from there.

There is a reason that NONE.....of the things they have reported on the economy have come true.

[Meglamaniac 560]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

 

Here is my contention: the mainstream media isn’t always accurate, sometimes reports news with a bias, but generally tries to be objective. Right wing media deliberately offers misleading and false information which they know people like you want to hear. So long as you get your news from right wing media, you are ALWAYS going to be misinformed. This won’t be a one-off. 

LOL

Now that's funny as heck

What a delusional viewpoint

[TimHauck 2,990]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK but WHY were you wrong about this? It’s not because you did anything bad yourself. It was because you got it from a source that deliberately lied to you. And that is a much larger problem. 
 

Here is my contention: the mainstream media isn’t always accurate, sometimes reports news with a bias, but generally tries to be objective. Right wing media deliberately offers misleading and false information which they know people like you want to hear. So long as you get your news from right wing media, you are ALWAYS going to be misinformed. This won’t be a one-off. 

The source that he says he used (a left wing one in this case btw) didn’t even lie to him.  He misread a sentence.  We tried to point it out to him nicely initially but he got  belligerent.

[BrahmaBulls 796]

16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK but WHY were you wrong about this? It’s not because you did anything bad yourself. It was because you got it from a source that deliberately lied to you. And that is a much larger problem. 
 

Here is my contention: the mainstream media isn’t always accurate, sometimes reports news with a bias, but generally tries to be objective. Right wing media deliberately offers misleading and false information which they know people like you want to hear. So long as you get your news from right wing media, you are ALWAYS going to be misinformed. This won’t be a one-off. 

More of your bullshit. Right wing media is dishonest but main stream media occasionally gets things wrong?  Listen to yourself you moron.  People have shown you blatant left wing media lies for years.  

[squistion 2,252]

41 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK but WHY were you wrong about this? It’s not because you did anything bad yourself. It was because you got it from a source that deliberately lied to you. And that is a much larger problem. 

Here is my contention: the mainstream media isn’t always accurate, sometimes reports news with a bias, but generally tries to be objective. Right wing media deliberately offers misleading and false information which they know people like you want to hear. So long as you get your news from right wing media, you are ALWAYS going to be misinformed. This won’t be a one-off. 

And often, even when the false and misleading information is refuted, they still believe it.

Case in point: The claim that Senator Van Hollen was "sipping margaritas" with Garcia has been completely debunked yet I still keep seeing it repeated on Twitter and on this forum. 

[TimHauck 2,990]

10 minutes ago, squistion said:

And often, even when the false and misleading information is refuted, they still believe it.

Case in point: The claim that Senator Van Hollen was "sipping margaritas" with Garcia has been completely debunked yet I still keep seeing it repeated on Twitter and on this forum. 

They (well at least they posters here) don’t believe it, they’re just trolling 

[TimHauck 2,990]

On 7/19/2025 at 5:25 PM, Strike said:

This particular mother has been in a bunch of stories since her kid got taken by ICE.  And I get it.  But she's putting herself out there to be in these stories.  I have no faith that she's telling the truth and not trying to make her kid look sympathetic.

 

On 7/19/2025 at 5:31 PM, TimHauck said:

Or maybe, just maybe, she knew her son got sent to a terrorist prison and could have been in danger or may have never been released?   Are you now of the opinion that entering the US illegally should be punishable by being jailed in a terrorist prison?

Bump

[seafoam1 3,182]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

Bump

Seeking attention much? 

[Voltaire 5,346]

There were beverages served when Van Holen met with "Maryland Dad." I see coffee cups in saucers with stirring spoons, wine glasses with a clear colorless liquid, and a plastic water bottle. The setting looks like a mid-scale coffee shop.

gettyimages-2210198987.jpg (1200×675) (foxnews.com)

You decide what you are seeing.

[TimHauck 2,990]

25 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

There were beverages served when Van Holen met with "Maryland Dad." I see coffee cups in saucers with stirring spoons, wine glasses with a clear colorless liquid, and a plastic water bottle. The setting looks like a mid-scale coffee shop.

gettyimages-2210198987.jpg (1200×675) (foxnews.com)

You decide what you are seeing.

Wine glasses lol.  It’s clearly water in them.  I guess it’s possible they drank some coffee (although the cups look full).  But no deciding needed, putting Abrego in some decent clothes and taking him to a setting outside of the prison is obviously propaganda from Bukele.  Anyone who doesn’t realize that is an idiot.

[Voltaire 5,346]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Wine glasses lol.  It’s clearly water in them.  I guess it’s possible they drank some coffee.  But no deciding needed, putting Abrego in some decent clothes and taking him to a setting outside of the prison is obviously propaganda from Bukele.  Anyone who doesn’t realize that is an idiot.

I think its water too and agree the setting would have been determined by a Bukele ally if not Bukele himself.

[TimHauck 2,990]

This was interesting.  Apparently one of the guys sent to CECOT was listed in a Texas gang database, except it had a photo of someone else.  Of course the admin claims that had nothing to do with why he was sent to CECOT.

Also, the guy who sang the chorus to “Gangsta’s paradise,” who worked as an advocate AGAINST kids joining gangs, got sent an official letter saying he had been labeled a gang member.

 

[Horseman 2,525]

Still locked up?  

Good. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,073]

7 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Apparently one of the guys sent to CECOT was listed in a Texas gang database, except it had a photo of someone else.  

Better to be safe than sorry 

[TimHauck 2,990]

Professional soccer player that entered the country legally and had no criminal record and was sent to CECOT because of a tattoo inspired by Real Madrid and a photo on social media, tells of being beaten and used for propaganda (more evidence the “margaritas” were propaganda if anyone needed any).

Bukele may be a piece of sh1t, but he’s not dumb.  He didn’t want all these guys with no criminal record in his terrorist prison.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dreaming-soccer-coach-deported-tattoo-celebrates-release-cecot/story?id=124075548

[seafoam1 3,182]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Professional soccer player that entered the country legally and had no criminal record and was sent to CECOT because of a tattoo inspired by Real Madrid and a photo on social media, tells of being beaten and used for propaganda (more evidence the “margaritas” were propaganda if anyone needed any).

Bukele may be a piece of sh1t, but he’s not dumb.  He didn’t want all these guys with no criminal record in his terrorist prison.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dreaming-soccer-coach-deported-tattoo-celebrates-release-cecot/story?id=124075548

[Strike 5,679]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Professional soccer player that entered the country legally and had no criminal record and was sent to CECOT because of a tattoo inspired by Real Madrid and a photo on social media, tells of being beaten and used for propaganda (more evidence the “margaritas” were propaganda if anyone needed any).

Bukele may be a piece of sh1t, but he’s not dumb.  He didn’t want all these guys with no criminal record in his terrorist prison.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dreaming-soccer-coach-deported-tattoo-celebrates-release-cecot/story?id=124075548

He was a pro soccer player and coach here?  Should be easily verifiable, beyond an assertion by him and his attorney.  Where are comments from the PRO Soccer team he played for or the youth soccer team/league where he coached?  And let's be clear.  The CBP ONE app was just a get in the country free card under Biden.  That's why Trump has been able to get rid of so many who used it. 

[TimHauck 2,990]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

He was a pro soccer player and coach here?  Should be easily verifiable, beyond an assertion by him and his attorney.  Where are comments from the PRO Soccer team he played for or the youth soccer team/league where he coached?  And let's be clear.  The CBP ONE app was just a get in the country free card under Biden.  That's why Trump has been able to get rid of so many who used it. 

It doesn’t say the team he played for was here.

And you still haven’t answered my previous question.  Do you think that entering the country illegally (which of course this guy didn’t), should be punishable by being sent to a terrorist prison?

The concern here is that he (and now we know several others), were sent to CECOT because of the Alien Enemies act because of dubious at best claims that they were in Tren de Aragua.  You shouldn’t be asking me for evidence of his employment, you should be asking the government for more evidence than a tattoo of a crown that he’s in Tren de Aragua.

[TimHauck 2,990]

And here is DHS saying definitively that he was a terrorist

 

[Strike 5,679]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

It doesn’t say the team he played for was here.

And you still haven’t answered my previous question.  Do you think that entering the country illegally (which of course this guy didn’t), should be punishable by being sent to a terrorist prison?

The concern here is that he (and now we know several others), were sent to CECOT because of the Alien Enemies act because of dubious at best claims that they were in Tren de Aragua.  You shouldn’t be asking me for evidence of his employment, you should be asking the government for more evidence than a tattoo of a crown that he’s in Tren de Aragua.

So a pro soccer player decided to cross the border instead of staying home and playing pro soccer?   ROFLMAO RainHauck.

[TimHauck 2,990]

Just now, Strike said:

So a pro soccer player decided to cross the border instead of staying home and playing pro soccer?   ROFLMAO RainHauck.

So are you doubting he was a pro soccer player at all?  

Are you going to answer my question?  Do you think entering the country illegally should be punishable with being sent to a terrorist prison?

[Strike 5,679]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

So are you doubting he was a pro soccer player at all?  

Are you going to answer my question?  Do you think entering the country illegally should be punishable with being sent to a terrorist prison?

I'm asking for proof.  Should be easy to provide.  If it was in Venezuela get his team down there to vouch for him.  I'm not taking an illegal's word for it, especially when it defies common sense.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,199]

Hey, KarenHauck.

Can you just title all of your "links" as "Non-Citizen with vested interested in lying to stay in the US alleges they had a bad thing done to them".  This would just be easier, no?

It's amazing these so-called "news" organizations you link don't go the extra step and actually verify the claim is true.  Nope, they just post click-bait so fake outrage Karens like yourself can get all fake-outraged.

[TimHauck 2,990]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Hey, KarenHauck.

Can you just title all of your "links" as "Non-Citizen with vested interested in lying to stay in the US alleges they had a bad thing done to them".  This would just be easier, no?

It's amazing these so-called "news" organizations you link don't go the extra step and actually verify the claim is true.  Nope, they just post click-bait so fake outrage Karens like yourself can get all fake-outraged.

Since Strike refuses to answer, I’ll ask you, but I doubt you will either:

Do you think entering the country illegally should be punishable with being sent to a terrorist prison?

[shadrap 236]

On 7/30/2025 at 9:32 AM, The Real timschochet said:

OK but WHY were you wrong about this? It’s not because you did anything bad yourself. It was because you got it from a source that deliberately lied to you. And that is a much larger problem. 
 

Here is my contention: the mainstream media isn’t always accurate, sometimes reports news with a bias, but generally tries to be objective. Right wing media deliberately offers misleading and false information which they know people like you want to hear. So long as you get your news from right wing media, you are ALWAYS going to be misinformed. This won’t be a one-off. 

this from the guy who says "the Steele dossier has been shown to be fairly accurate".

[jerryskids 6,890]

On 8/2/2025 at 7:51 AM, TimHauck said:

Wine glasses lol.  It’s clearly water in them.  I guess it’s possible they drank some coffee (although the cups look full).  But no deciding needed, putting Abrego in some decent clothes and taking him to a setting outside of the prison is obviously propaganda from Bukele.  Anyone who doesn’t realize that is an idiot.

This Van Hollen, the arbiter of truth who puppets whatever Hamas Harry tells him about numbers, and says that Israel has completely blockaded UN aid?  lol

 

[Strike 5,679]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Since Strike refuses to answer, I’ll ask you, but I doubt you will either:

Do you think entering the country illegally should be punishable with being sent to a terrorist prison?

Give me some credible proof that this guy played or coached soccer ANYWHERE.  Then we'll talk about your questions.

[TimHauck 2,990]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Give me some credible proof that this guy played or coached soccer ANYWHERE.  Then we'll talk about your questions.

I asked first.

[Strike 5,679]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I asked first.

Don't care.  Guess we're done then.

[TimHauck 2,990]

Just now, Strike said:

Don't care.  Guess we're done then.

If I provide evidence he was a professional soccer player, will you answer the question?

[Strike 5,679]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

If I provide evidence he was a professional soccer player, will you answer the question?

Credible evidence, and maybe.  Depends on your evidence.

[TBayXXXVII 2,566]

7 minutes ago, Strike said:

Credible evidence, and maybe.  Depends on your evidence.

I couldn't find any reference to a team he played for.  I took a shot in the dark and asked Chatgpt "What professional soccer team did Jerce Reyes Barrios play for?"

 

This was the response:

I couldn't locate any publicly documented details naming a **specific professional club** that Jerce Reyes Barrios played for. Major news outlets (ABC, NPR, Newsweek, LatinTimes, etc.) describe him as a "professional soccer player" and "coach" from Venezuela, but none provide the name of any club he represented ([npr.org][1]).

 

Based on available sources:

 

* He is consistently referred to as a former **professional soccer player** and youth coach in Venezuela, with no criminal record ([npr.org][1]).

* However, **no identified professional team is named** in connection with his career in media reports ([abc7ny.com][2], [latintimes.com][3], [metroworldnews.com][4]).

 

Unless more detailed biographical sources emerge, such as interviews or Venezuelan local media profiles, the exact club affiliation remains unspecified in available public records. Let me know if you’d like me to dig into specialized Venezuelan football archives or Spanish‑language sources!

 

[1]: https://www.npr.org/2025/03/27/nx-s1-5341544/ice-el-salvador-jerce-reyes-barrios?utm_source=chatgpt.com "A Venezuelan soccer player was wrongfully deported, lawyer says : NPR"

[2]: https://abc7ny.com/17335032/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Soccer coach who says he was deported to CECOT over his tattoo celebrates his release - ABC7 New York"

[3]: https://www.latintimes.com/soccer-team-tribute-tattoo-triggered-deportation-venezuelan-athlete-accused-gang-ties-579834?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Soccer Team Tribute Tattoo Triggered Deportation of Venezuelan Athlete Accused of Gang Ties"

[4]: https://www.metroworldnews.com/en/2025/03/27/jerce-reyes-barrios-the-venezuelan-footballer-deported-for-having-a-real-madrid-tattoo/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Jerce Reyes Barrios, the football player deported for having a Real Madrid tattoo. – Metro World News"

 

[seafoam1 3,182]

22 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

If I provide evidence he was a professional soccer player, will you answer the question?

How's this going for you? 

[TimHauck 2,990]

27 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This Van Hollen, the arbiter of truth who puppets whatever Hamas Harry tells him about numbers, and says that Israel has completely blockaded UN aid?  lol

 

C’mon Jerry, don’t tell me you actually think they were “sipping margaritas,” lol

[Strike 5,679]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

How's this going for you? 

He's frantically googling, and checking gamer chat rooms hoping Billy has the goods.

[TimHauck 2,990]

5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I couldn't find any reference to a team he played for.  I took a shot in the dark and asked Chatgpt "What professional soccer team did Jerce Reyes Barrios play for?"

 

This was the response:

I couldn't locate any publicly documented details naming a **specific professional club** that Jerce Reyes Barrios played for. Major news outlets (ABC, NPR, Newsweek, LatinTimes, etc.) describe him as a "professional soccer player" and "coach" from Venezuela, but none provide the name of any club he represented ([npr.org][1]).

 

Based on available sources:

 

* He is consistently referred to as a former **professional soccer player** and youth coach in Venezuela, with no criminal record ([npr.org][1]).

* However, **no identified professional team is named** in connection with his career in media reports ([abc7ny.com][2], [latintimes.com][3], [metroworldnews.com][4]).

 

Unless more detailed biographical sources emerge, such as interviews or Venezuelan local media profiles, the exact club affiliation remains unspecified in available public records. Let me know if you’d like me to dig into specialized Venezuelan football archives or Spanish‑language sources!

 

[1]: https://www.npr.org/2025/03/27/nx-s1-5341544/ice-el-salvador-jerce-reyes-barrios?utm_source=chatgpt.com "A Venezuelan soccer player was wrongfully deported, lawyer says : NPR"

[2]: https://abc7ny.com/17335032/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Soccer coach who says he was deported to CECOT over his tattoo celebrates his release - ABC7 New York"

[3]: https://www.latintimes.com/soccer-team-tribute-tattoo-triggered-deportation-venezuelan-athlete-accused-gang-ties-579834?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Soccer Team Tribute Tattoo Triggered Deportation of Venezuelan Athlete Accused of Gang Ties"

[4]: https://www.metroworldnews.com/en/2025/03/27/jerce-reyes-barrios-the-venezuelan-footballer-deported-for-having-a-real-madrid-tattoo/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Jerce Reyes Barrios, the football player deported for having a Real Madrid tattoo. – Metro World News"

 

Hey @Strike are you going to tell @TBayXXXVII here not to depend on AI?

[TimHauck 2,990]

54 minutes ago, Strike said:

So a pro soccer player decided to cross the border instead of staying home and playing pro soccer?   ROFLMAO RainHauck.

Lol that Strike must think all professional soccer players are rich or something

[seafoam1 3,182]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

He's frantically googling, and checking gamer chat rooms hoping Billy has the goods.

A "professional" unpaid youth soccer coach in a Venezuela. 

The guy makes his money through cartel payments for dirty deeds done dirt cheap.