Shedeur Sanders is being disrespected.

[Ron_Artest 1,020]

21 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

 I don’t like blacks?

There are plenty of other reasons why I don’t like blacks

[Ron_Artest 1,020]

10 hours ago, nobody said:

What's lost in all this is that I don't think he was ever considered a lock first round talent by execs.  He might have gone in the second based on talent.  The reason people thought he was a top 5 talent is because Deion told the media that, and then the media told the public that because they don't know shìt anyway.  And as typical, the masses are told something by the media and immediately adopt it as a core belief.

The consensus in the scouting community was he was QB1 or QB2.  His tape says he's a first round talent.  It was the intangibles that caused him to slide.  Bad interviews, sense of entitlement, unprofessionalism and general fear based on all this didn't outweigh his tape.  But you're the guy that said Lamar Jackson is a sh!tty QB so you really don't know what you're talking about.

[MDC 7,111]

GC thinks he’s uppity.  

[iam90sbaby 2,472]

25 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

I bet all the “racists” in this thread had no problem with Ward going #1. Or Williams and Daniels going 1 and 2 last year. 
As a Washington fan, there’s no other QB I’d rather have, but bc I think Sanders is a douche and his actions had consequences, I don’t like blacks?
 

(There are plenty of other reasons why I don’t like blacks, but this isn’t one. /s)

Cam Newton is the same type of personality, completely full of himself, cocky and he went #1 overall. Because he’s actually good.

Sanders sucks that’s why he fell to the 6th round. If anyone thought they could win with him they would’ve drafted him. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,903]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

The consensus in the scouting community was he was QB1 or QB2.  His tape says he's a first round talent.  It was the intangibles that caused him to slide.  Bad interviews, sense of entitlement, unprofessionalism and general fear based on all this didn't outweigh his tape.  But you're the guy that said Lamar Jackson is a sh!tty QB so you really don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, the QB1 or 2 doesn’t slide that far because of attitude or entitlement.  His ability was the main factor. You just say things.  

[nobody 2,555]

56 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

If that was what was solely being said I'd 100% agree with you.

But it was clear what like 2 or 3 posters were getting at here attributing it solely to race. 

Well, 90skid and others here are actually racist.  Not sure why you guys even engage with them.  

[Sean Mooney 1,931]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

Well, 90skid and others here are actually racist.  Not sure why you guys even engage with them.  

I don't....but I think that was the point that was (poorly) being made. 

[nobody 2,555]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

The consensus in the scouting community was he was QB1 or QB2.  His tape says he's a first round talent.  It was the intangibles that caused him to slide.  Bad interviews, sense of entitlement, unprofessionalism and general fear based on all this didn't outweigh his tape.  But you're the guy that said Lamar Jackson is a sh!tty QB so you really don't know what you're talking about.

Nah, plenty had him as not first round.  And spare me the tape nonsense.  You are not qualified to breakdown tape even if you did try to do it.  As usual, you googled your opinion.

[MDC 7,111]

NFL mock draft database had Sanders 12th on the consensus big board: Link

He was overwhelmingly considered the 2nd best QB in the draft and a 1st round lock leading up to draft night. 

[nobody 2,555]

Nope days leading up to the draft insiders started putting Dart ahead of him and he started falling.  Your google searched opinions are stale.

[Ron_Artest 1,020]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah, the QB1 or 2 doesn’t slide that far because of attitude or entitlement.  His ability was the main factor. You just say things.  

You're saying that most scouts had him at a 5th round grade?

[nobody 2,555]

Again. The danger of always googling opinions.

Deion told the media Sanders was elite.  The media told you.  You adopt it as gospel truth.

[Ron_Artest 1,020]

6 minutes ago, nobody said:

Nah, plenty had him as not first round.  And spare me the tape nonsense.  You are not qualified to breakdown tape even if you did try to do it.  As usual, you googled your opinion.

Lamar sucks right?

NFL Scouts had him as a first or at worst second round QB based on his tape.  That is a fact.  Tape don't lie.

[nobody 2,555]

Now gutterboy claims he has access to team's scouting reports?  

Again deion told media.  Media told you.

[MDC 7,111]

3 minutes ago, nobody said:

Nope days leading up to the draft insiders started putting Dart ahead of him and he started falling.  Your google searched opinions are stale.

I probably took a look at 25-30 big boards and mock drafts and didn’t see a single one that had Sanders outside Round 1 or Dart ahead of him. 

In the days leading up to the draft, rumors of Sanders’ bad attitude started to leak and he started getting mocked in the late 1st / early 2nd range. No one I saw had him falling outside that range.

[Ron_Artest 1,020]

Just now, nobody said:

Now gutterboy claims he has access to team's scouting reports?  

Again deion told media.  Media told you.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/story/_/id/41058646/shedeur-sanders-colorado-2025-nfl-draft-scouting-report-rankings-stats

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2025-nfl-draft-rankings-quarterback

https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-draft-pro-execs-scouts-coaches-rank-and-evaluate-the-top-18-prospects-in-this-qb-class

[Alias Detective 1,388]

11 minutes ago, MDC said:

NFL mock draft database had Sanders 12th on the consensus big board: Link

He was overwhelmingly considered the 2nd best QB in the draft and a 1st round lock leading up to draft night. 

Apparently the folks writing the checks see things differently than the blowhards. 

[nobody 2,555]

Hot take:

The narrative is NFL doesn't like a confident black man.  I'm not sure he actually is confident.  He comes off as someone trying to seem confident.  

[nobody 2,555]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/story/_/id/41058646/shedeur-sanders-colorado-2025-nfl-draft-scouting-report-rankings-stats

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2025-nfl-draft-rankings-quarterback

https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-draft-pro-execs-scouts-coaches-rank-and-evaluate-the-top-18-prospects-in-this-qb-class

You guys can google search what deion told the media to do great.

[MDC 7,111]

Just now, Alias Detective said:

Apparently the folks writing the checks see things differently than the blowhards. 

Hindsight is always 20/20.  

[Ron_Artest 1,020]

Just now, nobody said:

You guys can google search what deion told the media to do great.

Deion told the scouts how to grade his tape?

[nobody 2,555]

Hey, dummy, teams don't publish what their scouts grade.   

What you think are "scouts grades" is media influenced BS.

[Sean Mooney 1,931]

16 minutes ago, nobody said:

Nope days leading up to the draft insiders started putting Dart ahead of him and he started calling.  Your google searches are stale.

 

Some did.

NFL Draft Buzz (which updates throughout he draft process up to and through the draft had Sanders as the #2 QB yet but did have him dropped to a mid 1st round pick and the gap between him and Jaxson Dart (their 3rd ranked QB) had shrunk considerably. 

[supermike80 1,794]

Meh...Over and done.   He has a chance now to prove everyone wrong.  Let's see how he does

[Sean Mooney 1,931]

4 minutes ago, nobody said:

Hey, dummy, teams don't publish what their scouts grade.   

What you think are "scouts grades" is media influenced BS.

The sheer number of draft experts and whatnot are not just being influenced by Deion. The one argument you can make for them is that they don't really sit in on team interviews and if Sanders bombed out there, they may not have been privvy to that.

But by every metric- Sanders was #2 or #3 on rankings and was at worst listed as a late 1st round pick. Nobody would've bet any money on him being there in the 5th. He has a chance to prove people wrong now. It's on him to prove himself. 

[Alias Detective 1,388]

10 minutes ago, MDC said:

Hindsight is always 20/20.  

No sir.  He was never a 1-4th round pick on ANY teams big bored.  Sorry you are wrong.

[iam90sbaby 2,472]

34 minutes ago, nobody said:

Well, 90skid and others here are actually racist.  Not sure why you guys even engage with them.  

And you’re a degenerate that takes it up the azz, not sure why anyone engages with you.  Also I haven’t said anything about Sanders other than he sucks. 

[MDC 7,111]

5 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

No sir.  He was never a 1-4th round pick on ANY teams big bored.  Sorry you are wrong.

Sanders was a consensus 1st round player in every mock and big board I saw. Obviously no NFL teams saw it that way, probably for character concerns. 

Thanks for telling us what happened last Thursday though. 

[Mike Honcho 5,080]

You guys arguing about where he was mocked, where he should have went reminds me of the guys in the stands arguing too high, too hard...

who cares, the draft is over

[Hawkeye21 2,379]

Did anyone else feel joy seeing Sanders drop that far in the draft?  

[Ron_Artest 1,020]

25 minutes ago, nobody said:

What you think are "scouts grades" is media influenced BS.

[Ron_Artest 1,020]

19 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The sheer number of draft experts and whatnot are not just being influenced by Deion. The one argument you can make for them is that they don't really sit in on team interviews and if Sanders bombed out there, they may not have been privvy to that.

But by every metric- Sanders was #2 or #3 on rankings and was at worst listed as a late 1st round pick. Nobody would've bet any money on him being there in the 5th. He has a chance to prove people wrong now. It's on him to prove himself. 

The scouts that I follow that have studied his tape had him as QB1 or QB2, a probable first round pick.  There is obviously more to a grade than tape, but to say that scouts that graded his tape only gave him high grades based on what Deion told them is incredibly stupid.  I would bet Nobody hasn't watched a single Shadeur game in his life.

[Sean Mooney 1,931]

9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

The scouts that I follow that have studied his tape had him as QB1 or QB2, a probable first round pick.  There is obviously more to a grade than tape, but to say that scouts that graded his tape only gave him high grades based on what Deion told them is incredibly stupid.  I would bet Nobody hasn't watched a single Shadeur game in his life.

It definitely was Ward/sanders on a majority of the draft stuff I saw

[Herbivore 1,113]

1 hour ago, Alias Detective said:

Apparently the folks writing the checks see things differently than the blowhards. 

i dont know, sometimes the people making the decisions are the blowhards. in this case, we are talking about an org that gave Deshaun that contract. no way that Gabriel kid makes it. only way for them to land a QB is blind luck. maybe it fell to them.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,903]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

You're saying that most scouts had him at a 5th round grade?

No. I’m saying he didn’t slide that far just because he’s doosh.  

[avoiding injuries 1,505]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Etymology

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[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

2 hours ago, MDC said:

NFL mock draft database had Sanders 12th on the consensus big board: Link

He was overwhelmingly considered the 2nd best QB in the draft and a 1st round lock leading up to draft night. 

Sorry, but it was all hype. The pundits I was listening to- and there were several- all said Sanders was not first-round talent, much less a second or third round.

That's what I was listening to so I was surprised to see he was being mocked so high.  Sounds to me like Mel kiper is trying to cover his ass for his bad prognostications.

[Ron_Artest 1,020]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

The pundits I was listening to- and there were several- all said Sanders was not first-round talent, much less a second or third round.

 

which "pundits"? 

[nobody 2,555]

Gutter - the guy that googles every opinion he has.  I mean the guy has no original thoughts.  Everything straight from google and chatgpt.  He doesn't realize much of sports media are grifters that don't know shìt doing the exact same thing.  Yes there are a few that will buck the narratives.  But most of the touts are just like Gutter.  They just google what their opinions are.  

That's why you get situations like last year where everyone but a few kept saying MHJ was better than Nabers when all you had to do was watch a few games of each and anyone with half a brain could see that wasn't the case.  The media is mob think.  Deion bullied the media close to the Colorado program into saying sanders was great.  Remember how a few guys criticized the program and how he attacked them?  Well most people are weak just like Gutter, and will write whatever Deion wants to avoid making him mad.  Then the national media - most of which are just as mindless as gutter - google their sanders opinion, and find all the puff pieces written about him, and that's how the "sanders is great" narrative is born.

95% of the sports world don't do any work or have original thoughts.  The world is made up of NPCs.  They make up BS contacts and really don't know shìt.  Listen to guys like Steve Smith (the receiver not the biggest grifter of them all) if you want real opinions based on professional expertise watching games.

[nobody 2,555]

11 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Sorry, but it was all hype. The pundits I was listening to- and there were several- all said Sanders was not first-round talent, much less a second or third round.

That's what I was listening to so I was surprised to see he was being mocked so high.  Sounds to me like Mel kiper is trying to cover his ass for his bad prognostications.

He's leaning on a flawed data source. 

He doesn't realize the touts started catching wind that sanders was going to fall in the last few days leading up to the draft ( then magically their scouting opinion changed of course) and the mock draft database that he's leaning on is an average that wouldn't have had time to adjust.