Pam Bondi claims Trump-instigated fentanyl seizures have saved 258 million American lives

[Tebok 308]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pam-bondi-makes-head-spinning-claim-trump-saved-258m-american-lives/

That's like 75 percent of America.

Let the MAGAspin commence!

 

[jbycho 588]

Wow. Liberals are dumber than I thought. And that's a lot. 

They want people dead. 

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Just now, Tebok said:

That's some great "ignoring" you have been doing by responding to my every post. 

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1 minute ago, Tebok said:

Great thread Rusty.

[Alias Detective 1,389]

9 hours ago, Tebok said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pam-bondi-makes-head-spinning-claim-trump-saved-258m-american-lives/

That's like 75 percent of America.

Let the MAGAspin commence!

 

Considering 1 dose of fentynal will kill the average person its conceivable to get to those numbers.  However, the drug, like a gun doesn't "kill" a person on its own.  The person taking the drug kills themselves.

[SaintsInDome2006 378]

Sort of stuff you see in North Korean propaganda. It’s ludicrous but that’s the point, it’s just ever heightened praise because if you don’t your zeal is deemed wanting.

[thegeneral 2,899]

Going to need a math check.

[TBayXXXVII 2,482]

10 hours ago, Tebok said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pam-bondi-makes-head-spinning-claim-trump-saved-258m-american-lives/

That's like 75 percent of America.

Let the MAGAspin commence!

 

She's being modest.  It's closer to 100%.

[The Real timschochet 6,411]

That had to be the most nauseating press conference ever. “Oh Mr President you are simply the greatest man in American history!” And you could tell he loved it. So pathetic. 

[Drizzay 699]

Good, fock  China and Mexico.  This is reason alone to nuke both of them into oblivion.

[Tebok 308]

1 hour ago, Alias Detective said:

Considering 1 dose of fentynal will kill the average person its conceivable to get to those numbers.  However, the drug, like a gun doesn't "kill" a person on its own.  The person taking the drug kills themselves.

Do you honestly believe that 258 million Americans would be dead if it weren't for Trump's actions regarding fentanyl?

Here's a graph showing that fentanyl deaths INCREASED during Trump's first term:

https://ncapda.org/fentanyl/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=16264789192&gbraid=0AAAAAC34Et8iL2jDZ05u5TWQQMFCVtvjv&gclid=Cj0KCQjwt8zABhDKARIsAHXuD7bO0ipbaWyXNTtY7lMrRP0_Nc9sxqn7MdsKHRuHD2Y176A8Lg6uXt8aAmJvEALw_wcB

https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2024/12/16/overdose-deaths-decline-fentanyl-threat-looms

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For the first time since 2018, the United States has seen a decrease in drug overdose deaths and poisonings, with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noting a 14.5 percent decrease in deaths between June 2023 and June 2024. More than 107,000 people lost their lives to a drug overdose in 2023, with nearly 70 percent of those deaths attributed to opioids such as fentanyl. 

Fentanyl deaths DECREASED in 2024.

But somewhere between 70,000 and 110,000 die annually from fentanyl.

I guess 258 million Americans were on the brink of diving right into fentanyl and dying, and then Trump came along.

What a clown show we got going, folks.

[thegeneral 2,899]

47 minutes ago, Drizzay said:

Good, fock  China and Mexico.  This is reason alone to nuke both of them into oblivion.

This seems a bit rash.

[Mike Honcho 5,096]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

That had to be the most nauseating press conference ever. “Oh Mr President you are simply the greatest man in American history!” And you could tell he loved it. So pathetic. 

 

10 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

What a job Fred Trump did on Donald - that he needs to organize these "meetings" to show the country how well respected and capable he is. 

I put a lot of the blame on Fred, but we should also recognize how much Mark Burnett played into his incessant need to be praised on television and a great and brilliant leader. 

[TimHauck 2,615]

2 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

Considering 1 dose of fentynal will kill the average person its conceivable to get to those numbers.  

Lol, you’re a sheep

[Alias Detective 1,389]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Lol, you’re a sheep

You take his bait and get all bent out of shape.  I'm telling you how the number was derived.

[MDC 7,125]

Just now, Alias Detective said:

You take his bait and get all bent out of shape.  I'm telling you how the number was derived.

Take the number of Fentanyl doses that were kept out of the country and assume one American was going to OD on each of them?

[TimHauck 2,615]

3 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

You take his bait and get all bent out of shape.  I'm telling you how the number was derived.

And I’m telling you that math is focking retarded.  HTH

[Alias Detective 1,389]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Take the number of Fentanyl doses that were kept out of the country and assume one American was going to OD on each of them?

If there wasn't any fentanyl no one would OD on it.  Right?

[Alias Detective 1,389]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

And I’m telling you that math is focking retarded.  HTH

I'm beyond the math.  Lets talk ridding the Fentanyl.

[TimHauck 2,615]

2 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

I'm beyond the math.  Lets talk ridding the Fentanyl.

Agree.  But I could do without the propaganda.  Apparently you’re a fan.  Noted.

[Alias Detective 1,389]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Agree.  But I could do without the propaganda.  Apparently you’re a fan.  Noted.

Actually hate the propaganda.  I am telling you the Trump admin just didn't pick a random number.  There was a rational, as flawed as it may have been.

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

That had to be the most nauseating press conference ever. “Oh Mr President you are simply the greatest man in American history!” And you could tell he loved it. So pathetic. 

You feed Venus flytraps flys, you feed narcissist flattery.

[MDC 7,125]

8 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

If there wasn't any fentanyl no one would OD on it.  Right?

Were 258 million people going to overdose between Trump’s inauguration and today?

[Strike 5,186]

If you consider every sperm from each male, or person who identifies as male, who would have died from Fentanyl as a unique person it's easy to get to her number.

[Maximum Overkill 1,739]

13 hours ago, Tebok said:

That's like 75 percent of America.

Trump is the exact opposite of Hitler. He's saved our whole Country and generations to come. Thank you Mr. Trump. 

Indeed Amen Thanks  

[Tebok 308]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Trump is the exact opposite of Hitler. He's saved our whole Country and generations to come. Thank you Mr. Trump. 

Indeed Amen Thanks  

This is what the Germans thought of Hitler at this point in the proceedings. Same thing with Hungary. It's unbelievable that MAGAs are blind to the parallels between what happened in those countries and what's happening now in ours. Instead of a system of checks and balances, you have a madman egomaniac who has surrounded himself with nodding heads and minimizing our country's checks and balances en route to funneling extraordinary power into the executive branch. That's EXACTLY what Hitler did. 

A system of lies, twisted information and vicious, relentless attacks on his critics. 

[jbycho 588]

16 minutes ago, Tebok said:

This is what the Germans thought of Hitler at this point in the proceedings. Same thing with Hungary. It's unbelievable that MAGAs are blind to the parallels between what happened in those countries and what's happening now in ours. Instead of a system of checks and balances, you have a madman egomaniac who has surrounded himself with nodding heads and minimizing our country's checks and balances en route to funneling extraordinary power into the executive branch. That's EXACTLY what Hitler did. 

A system of lies, twisted information and vicious, relentless attacks on his critics. 

85 years ago in another country. 

You weak minded cultists are funny. 

Poor Rusty. 

[Reality 3,096]

I sure hope you fellas get to the bottom of this. 

How many did Biden save when he cured cancer?

[jerryskids 6,561]

19 hours ago, Tebok said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pam-bondi-makes-head-spinning-claim-trump-saved-258m-american-lives/

That's like 75 percent of America.

Let the MAGAspin commence!

 

She probably misspoke, meant 258 thousand.  Very center-right of you, Rusty.   

[thegeneral 2,899]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

She probably misspoke, meant 258 thousand.  Very center-right of you, Rusty.   

You should read the article.

[jerryskids 6,561]

48 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

You should read the article.

I watched the video, where she didn't say that.  I didn't continue on to Daily Beast part with the additional alleged text, followed by a link from them to something on Bondi they called "Execution Barbie," then her allegedly pulling back the number.

Anyway, I'll presume she indeed said it as a theoretical maximum (I think @Strike said similar), then pulled it back as per the next paragraph that Daily Beast begrudgingly included.  But hey, the important part is that seizing fentanyl is bad, because Trump.  Center-right folks unite!

[thegeneral 2,899]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I watched the video, where she didn't say that.  I didn't continue on to Daily Beast part with the additional alleged text, followed by a link from them to something on Bondi they called "Execution Barbie," then her allegedly pulling back the number.

Anyway, I'll presume she indeed said it as a theoretical maximum (I think @Strike said similar), then pulled it back as per the next paragraph that Daily Beast begrudgingly included.  But hey, the important part is that seizing fentanyl is bad, because Trump.  Center-right folks unite!

From the article:

“Since you have been in office, President Trump, your DOJ agencies have seized more than 22 million fentanyl pills—3,400 kilos of fentanyl...which saved—are you ready for this, media?—258 million lives,” Bondi claimed”

They explained it via a spokesperson with this:

“When asked how the attorney general arrived at that number, the Department of Justice provided a formula to the Daily Beast: 3,400,000 grams of fentanyl multiplied by the “current purity level” of .1518, divided by .002, the lethal amount per gram. The result: 258,060,000”

She another time said this:

““Today is Fentanyl Awareness day,” the attorney general wrote in a social media post that afternoon. “In President Trump’s first 100 days we’ve seized over 22 million fentanyl laced pills, saving over 119 Million lives.”

Very creative. I’m guessing everyone has been saved 20 times over by all Presidents according to this. I agree with Daily Beast this is a good thing.

[jerryskids 6,561]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

From the article:

“Since you have been in office, President Trump, your DOJ agencies have seized more than 22 million fentanyl pills—3,400 kilos of fentanyl...which saved—are you ready for this, media?—258 million lives,” Bondi claimed”

They explained it via a spokesperson with this:

“When asked how the attorney general arrived at that number, the Department of Justice provided a formula to the Daily Beast: 3,400,000 grams of fentanyl multiplied by the “current purity level” of .1518, divided by .002, the lethal amount per gram. The result: 258,060,000”

She another time said this:

““Today is Fentanyl Awareness day,” the attorney general wrote in a social media post that afternoon. “In President Trump’s first 100 days we’ve seized over 22 million fentanyl laced pills, saving over 119 Million lives.”

Very creative. I’m guessing everyone has been saved 20 times over by all Presidents according to this. I agree with Daily Beast this is a good thing.

Thanks for repeating what I said, without the "Execution Barbie" part, I guess.   

[TimHauck 2,615]

19 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I watched the video, where she didn't say that.  I didn't continue on to Daily Beast part with the additional alleged text, followed by a link from them to something on Bondi they called "Execution Barbie," then her allegedly pulling back the number.

Anyway, I'll presume she indeed said it as a theoretical maximum (I think @Strike said similar), then pulled it back as per the next paragraph that Daily Beast begrudgingly included.  But hey, the important part is that seizing fentanyl is bad, because Trump.  Center-right folks unite!

First she said 119 million.  Then the next day upped it to 258 million.

Your bias is showing.

[thegeneral 2,899]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks for repeating what I said, without the "Execution Barbie" part, I guess.   

You had trouble reading the article so I was helping you out. 

[jerryskids 6,561]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

First she said 119 million.  Then the next day upped it to 258 million.

Your bias is showing.

I misread it based on the ordering of things in the article.  But hey, thanks for pointing out my bias, center-right guy who posts 99% left-wing posts.   

[TimHauck 2,615]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I misread it based on the ordering of things in the article.  But hey, thanks for pointing out my bias, center-right guy who posts 99% left-wing posts.   

I’m not center right, I’m just center.

[jbycho 588]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’m not center right, I’m just center.

You are a leftist Marxist. 

There is no question about that.