Happy REAL ID Day!

[jerryskids 6,578]

After years of delays, today is the day you start needing a REAL ID to get through airport security (or a passport or other approved ID).  Old state DLs no longer work.

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REAL ID Required for U.S. Travelers beginning May 7, 2025

 

As of May 7, 2025, U.S. travelers will need to present a REAL ID compliant license/ID or another acceptable form of identification to board commercial flights. Travelers who fail to produce a REAL ID or an accepted alternative may not be allowed through TSA security checkpoints.
Children under 18 are not required to provide identification when traveling within the United States.
REAL ID-compliant cards have a star marking on the upper top portion of the card. If the card does not have one of these markings, it is not REAL ID-compliant and won’t be accepted as proof of identity. A U.S. Department of Defense ID, including IDs issued to dependents, are acceptable alternatives to a REAL ID. Other acceptable forms of ID accepted at TSA Checkpoints include a U.S. passport or U.S. passport card, DHS trusted traveler cards (Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST), and state-issued Enhanced Driver’s License. For a complete list of acceptable alternative forms of identification, visit TSA.gov, or for more information, visit DHS.gov.

https://www.travel.dod.mil/About/News/Article/article/4061839/real-id-required-for-us-travelers-beginning-may-7-2025/#:~:text=As of May 7%2C 2025,identification to board commercial flights.

I've heard that DMVs are a shiot show with people trying to get them.  I imagine the airports will be a mess as well.

Happy traveling!

 

[Strike 5,231]

If you fly your own plane you don't go through airport security. 

[Strike 5,231]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

After years of delays, today is the day you start needing a REAL ID to get through airport security (or a passport or other approved ID).  Old state DLs no longer work.

https://www.travel.dod.mil/About/News/Article/article/4061839/real-id-required-for-us-travelers-beginning-may-7-2025/#:~:text=As of May 7%2C 2025,identification to board commercial flights.

I've heard that DMVs are a shiot show with people trying to get them.  I imagine the airports will be a mess as well.

Happy traveling!

 

Colorado has been issuing Real ID compliant ID's for like 8 years or something so pretty much everyone here already has it.

[Ron_Artest 1,088]

After all this, Dog Killer Noem said that Real ID is actually not required.

[Mike Honcho 5,122]

32 minutes ago, Strike said:

Colorado has been issuing Real ID compliant ID's for like 8 years or something so pretty much everyone here already has it.

I read somewhere that 80% of the country already has it.  In Michigan you have to renew every 4 years, so most of us have it.  When I lived in Florida it's every 8 and I just read you only have to get your picture updated every 12 years in AZ.  So, I imagine the DMV is a sh!t show in some places, and I'm guessing airports in those locations are probably are going to have longer lines through TSA too.  Glad I'm prechecked. 

 

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Arizona (AZ) has the longest period between driver's license renewals. In AZ, a driver's license is valid until the driver turns 65, meaning a new driver could go 50 years without renewal, according to KJZZ. Even with the requirement to renew the license photo every 12 years, Arizona still has the longest renewal period. 

 

[jbycho 610]

If you have put this off for all these years, you deserve to what you get. 

[iam90sbaby 2,494]

16 minutes ago, jbycho said:

If you have put this off for all these years, you deserve to what you get. 

I thought everyone had this already, pretty sure I’ve had mine over 10 years now? I’m out of the USA right now and saw it posted all over the airport

[TheNewGirl 1,357]

58 minutes ago, Strike said:

Colorado has been issuing Real ID compliant ID's for like 8 years or something so pretty much everyone here already has it.

CA started in 2018. 

Was supposed to start in 2008 after the law passed in 2005, but there were "delays." 

I'd be willing to bet there are thousands of Californians do NOT have their REAL ID yet. 

Looked it up - 15 million CA do NOT have Real ID yet...35%. 

[purdygood 335]

7 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

CA started in 2018. 

Was supposed to start in 2008 after the law passed in 2005, but there were "delays." 

I'd be willing to bet there are thousands of Californians do NOT have their REAL ID yet. 

Looked it up - 15 million CA do NOT have Real ID yet...35%. 

I do not have a "real ID Driver's License" but I do have a Passport.   My license expired during Covid and the DMV's weren't open, so I just renewed online.

[jerryskids 6,578]

24 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I read somewhere that 80% of the country already has it.  In Michigan you have to renew every 4 years, so most of us have it.  When I lived in Florida it's every 8 and I just read you only have to get your picture updated every 12 years in AZ.  So, I imagine the DMV is a sh!t show in some places, and I'm guessing airports in those locations are probably are going to have longer lines through TSA too.  Glad I'm prechecked. 

 

 

Haven't heard about the photo renewal part... my photo is from my 20's, and I'm almost 58.  It usually makes for a good laugh with the ID checker at airports in other states, who says something like "oh yeah, AZ never makes you renew these, do they?!  "  Mine expires in 2032.

Oh well, I have a passport if I need to fly somewhere.  My next scheduled flights or July, so I'll probably get the new ID in June after the hullaballoo dies down at DMV.  I just looked it up -- you need to go in person, although you can schedule appointments, which hopefully makes it a little faster.

[Sean Mooney 1,949]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

After years of delays, today is the day you start needing a REAL ID to get through airport security (or a passport or other approved ID).  Old state DLs no longer work.

https://www.travel.dod.mil/About/News/Article/article/4061839/real-id-required-for-us-travelers-beginning-may-7-2025/#:~:text=As of May 7%2C 2025,identification to board commercial flights.

I've heard that DMVs are a shiot show with people trying to get them.  I imagine the airports will be a mess as well.

Happy traveling!

 

I was told we just need to incentivize them more and they will work better

[TheNewGirl 1,357]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Haven't heard about the photo renewal part... my photo is from my 20's, and I'm almost 58.  It usually makes for a good laugh with the ID checker at airports in other states, who says something like "oh yeah, AZ never makes you renew these, do they?!  "  Mine expires in 2032.

Oh well, I have a passport if I need to fly somewhere.  My next scheduled flights or July, so I'll probably get the new ID in June after the hullaballoo dies down at DMV.  I just looked it up -- you need to go in person, although you can schedule appointments, which hopefully makes it a little faster.

Scheduling appts is fine, but it's mostly getting together all the documentation you need that people struggle with. Birth Certificates, Marriage Certificates if you changed your name, proof of residency, etc. It was a LAUNDRY list that I had to bring to DMV, and then my kids too. 

[jerryskids 6,578]

3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Scheduling appts is fine, but it's mostly getting together all the documentation you need that people struggle with. Birth Certificates, Marriage Certificates if you changed your name, proof of residency, etc. It was a LAUNDRY list that I had to bring to DMV, and then my kids too. 

I feel like my wife got a new SS card when we got married.  Or something... I don't think she ever needs her marriage certificate for things like passport renewals.  

[jbycho 610]

7 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Scheduling appts is fine, but it's mostly getting together all the documentation you need that people struggle with. Birth Certificates, Marriage Certificates if you changed your name, proof of residency, etc. It was a LAUNDRY list that I had to bring to DMV, and then my kids too. 

It was WAY easier getting a passport. Driver's license, birth certificate, post office, done. 

[Engorgeous George 2,161]

3 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

Scheduling appts is fine, but it's mostly getting together all the documentation you need that people struggle with. Birth Certificates, Marriage Certificates if you changed your name, proof of residency, etc. It was a LAUNDRY list that I had to bring to DMV, and then my kids too. 

I had to renew mine in Colorado, in February.  I forget what I had to bring according to their website, maybe two forms of verifying I.D.  When I got there with my documentation in hand the State employee did not even ask for it.  He just verbally asked if my address had cahnged and asked if I wanted to cahnge anything else.  I reduced my height as I am in my shrinkage years, my weight too, and changed my hair color to grey. (it's actually a beautiful snow white.)

[Big Guy 1,410]

I'll walk

[The Real timschochet 6,471]

4 hours at my local DMV a few weeks ago, basically lost the entire day. 
 

Now I heard this morning that they’re not even enforcing it; if you don’t have it they just ask a few more questions and you’re good. Lol 

[Strike 5,231]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

4 hours at my local DMV a few weeks ago, basically lost the entire day. 
 

Now I heard this morning that they’re not even enforcing it; if you don’t have it they just ask a few more questions and you’re good. Lol 

Why didn't you make an appointment?  When I lived in CA you could get in and out quick with an appointment.  Has that changed?

[The Real timschochet 6,471]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Why didn't you make an appointment?  When I lived in CA you could get in and out quick with an appointment.  Has that changed?

Nope, I did make an appointment. What’s changed is how long it takes with an appointment. 

[Strike 5,231]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Nope, I did make an appointment. What’s changed is how long it takes with an appointment. 

How long does it take WITHOUT an appointment?  FFS.   Well run state you got there buddy.

[Mike Honcho 5,122]

47 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Scheduling appts is fine, but it's mostly getting together all the documentation you need that people struggle with. Birth Certificates, Marriage Certificates if you changed your name, proof of residency, etc. It was a LAUNDRY list that I had to bring to DMV, and then my kids too. 

 

32 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I had to renew mine in Colorado, in February.  I forget what I had to bring according to their website, maybe two forms of verifying I.D.  When I got there with my documentation in hand the Sdtate employee did not even ask for it.  He just verbally asked if my address had cahnged and asked if I wanted to cahnge anything else.  I reduced my height as i am in my shrinkage hears, my weight too, and changed my hair color to grey. (it's actually a beautiful snow white.)

What a PITA - In MI, all we have to do is renew before the old one expires, bring in the license and knowing the last 4 digits of your SS.  Your states DMV's are the suck. 

[jbycho 610]

19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

4 hours at my local DMV a few weeks ago, basically lost the entire day. 
 

Now I heard this morning that they’re not even enforcing it; if you don’t have it they just ask a few more questions and you’re good. Lol 

Idiot. 

[Strike 5,231]

4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

What a PITA - In MI, all we have to do is renew before the old one expires, bring in the license and knowing the last 4 digits of your SS.  Your states DMV's are the suck. 

Apparently EG's and mine does not, since he walked up and they didn't ask him for anything.  My experience with it has been painless as well.

[jerryskids 6,578]

4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

What a PITA - In MI, all we have to do is renew before the old one expires, bring in the license and knowing the last 4 digits of your SS.  Your states DMV's are the suck. 

I would expect the first time getting a Real ID to be more involved. Otherwise, how is it more secure than the old one?

Renewals, sure

[Mike Honcho 5,122]

Just now, Strike said:

Apparently EG's and mine does not, since he walked up and they didn't ask him for anything.  My experience with it has been painless as well.

That was my bad, I read the documentation part and didn't read that he didn't need it.  I was wrong and have removed from Colorado has suck DMV's list. 

[Strike 5,231]

Just now, jerryskids said:

I would expect the first time getting a Real ID to be more involved. Otherwise, how is it more secure than the old one?

Renewals, sure

Honestly, I didn't have to do anything additional to renew my DL the last time around, and when this REAL ID stuff started coming up I googled it and found out mine should already be compliant, and the way you can tell that is by a big star they put on it.  And I verified mine had it.  So, I didn't do anything different than I have in the past and I have the new ID. 

[Mike Honcho 5,122]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I would expect the first time getting a Real ID to be more involved. Otherwise, how is it more secure than the old one?

Renewals, sure

Google AI  below.  I didn't have to do anything extra during the application process, unless you are talking about the my original license application in 2004.  

 

 

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REAL ID compliant driver's licenses and identification cards are more secure because they adhere to strict federal standards, making them harder to counterfeit or forge. These standards include various security features, such as barcodes and gold stars, and require more thorough verification of identity during the application process. This helps ensure that the IDs are authentic and can be trusted for purposes like boarding domestic flights and accessing federal facilities. 

 

Here's a more detailed explanation: 

 

• Security Features:

  REAL ID compliant cards incorporate advanced security features that are difficult to replicate, such as holographic images, microprinting, and barcodes. 

   
• Enhanced Verification:

  The application process for a REAL ID requires individuals to provide more documentation to prove their identity, such as a birth certificate or passport, making it more difficult for individuals to obtain a fake ID. 

   
• Data Sharing:

  States with State-to-State data sharing systems can verify the authenticity of a REAL ID by checking a secure database, adding another layer of protection. 

   
• Protection Against Identity Theft:

  The REAL ID Act was passed in response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks to improve the reliability and accuracy of driver's licenses and ID cards and prevent identity theft. 

   
• Federal Standards:

  The REAL ID Act sets minimum security standards for state-issued licenses and IDs, ensuring that all REAL ID compliant cards meet a certain level of security. 

 

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[Drizzay 699]

"Now serving A-2-6-1, at counter 13"

 

I have the Enhanced ID.  Got it 3 or 4 years ago and only took me about 20min without an appt.

My wife finally went to get hers a couple of weeks ago.  It took her 4 hours.  Everyone there was trying to do the same.  If there wasn't a deadline that was approaching, the wait would have been small.  I told her she should have just driven to a DMV out in BFE.  A 45min drive each way still would have been faster.

[WhiteWonder 2,681]

Are the people who don't already have it and are panicked to get the real ID, people who don't have passports?  I do not have a real ID and have not even thought about it since I have a passport. 

I would be more shocked to know people don't have passports

[Strike 5,231]

2 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

Are the people who don't already have it and are panicked to get the real ID, people who don't have passports?  I do not have a real ID and have not even thought about it since I have a passport. 

I would be more shocked to know people don't have passports

Why?  Some people don't travel outside the U.S..

[posty 2,613]

3 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

Are the people who don't already have it and are panicked to get the real ID, people who don't have passports?  I do not have a real ID and have not even thought about it since I have a passport. 

I would be more shocked to know people don't have passports

I do not have a passport or will be getting a real ID…

I have no desire to travel out of the country or by airplane…. Though one needs real ID to get into Arlington Cemetery, which is kind of weird IMO, but not my decision…

[Grace Under Pressure 73]

Real ID is woke.

[WhiteWonder 2,681]

Just now, Strike said:

Why?  Some people don't travel outside the U.S..

I understand. There was a long stretch where I didn't do any international travel but still had a passport with nothing stamped in it .  I believe I got one at an early age in case I went on fishing trips to Canada with family, as after 9/11 I think they were checking passports at the border. 

 

I guess I also don't quite understand most people rushing to do this the past few weeks because of a deadline. Unless you have a domestic flight coming up, just wait another month or so for the commotion to die down

[WhiteWonder 2,681]

6 minutes ago, posty said:

I do not have a passport or will be getting a real ID…

I have no desire to travel out of the country or by airplane…. Though one needs real ID to get into Arlington Cemetery, which is kind of weird IMO, but not my decision…

yeah but you don't like or do anything 

[posty 2,613]

1 minute ago, WhiteWonder said:

yeah but you don't like or do anything 

Consistency is a solid trait…

[jerryskids 6,578]

10 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

Are the people who don't already have it and are panicked to get the real ID, people who don't have passports?  I do not have a real ID and have not even thought about it since I have a passport. 

I would be more shocked to know people don't have passports

I think my passport expires next year.  As in the past, I'll inevitably forget about it, then I'll plan an international trip (most likely a hiking trip to the Patagonia region of South America, but maybe The Open at Royal Birkdale -- I had tix to Royal Portrush this year, but our extended family had other vacation plans)

Anyway... I'll realize that my passport expired, and jump through hoops to expedite it.   

[jerryskids 6,578]

1 minute ago, posty said:

Consistency is a solid trait…

In bowel movements, yes.  

[WhiteWonder 2,681]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I think my passport expires next year.  As in the past, I'll inevitably forget about it, then I'll plan an international trip (most likely a hiking trip to the Patagonia region of South America, but maybe The Open at Royal Birkdale -- I had tix to Royal Portrush this year, but our extended family had other vacation plans)

Anyway... I'll realize that my passport expired, and jump through hoops to expedite it.   

same happened to me before a trip to Madrid in 2023. I procrastinated renewing it because I was not certain the trip was going to happen, when I should have just renewed it regardless. Ended up doing everything in January, was told i'd be fine as the turnaround time was 6-9 weeks. Then at some point while I was waiting, their website showed the turnaround time as 8-12 weeks or something like that, but anyone who had filled their stuff out before a certain date was supposed to still be honored that original time frame. 

It was like 2 weeks before I was supposed to leave and i'm on the phone with them because the status had been "approved but not mailed" for a while. I'm asking them if I can go to the NY office to get it and they tell me there are no available appointments in NY for months. I can go to Dallas or something .  Then while on the phone, the guy somehow magically finds out it in the mail to go out that day. 

I received it maybe 4 days before my flight 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,319]

Bunch of slowpeds.  It’s ok to ride one until a friend sees you standing in line for hours.

[Mike Honcho 5,122]

17 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I think my passport expires next year.  As in the past, I'll inevitably forget about it, then I'll plan an international trip (most likely a hiking trip to the Patagonia region of South America, but maybe The Open at Royal Birkdale -- I had tix to Royal Portrush this year, but our extended family had other vacation plans)

Anyway... I'll realize that my passport expired, and jump through hoops to expedite it.   

We do just enough international travel in our office that it's easy to remember to make sure it's up to date.