Tebok 442 Posted June 6 53 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Then perhaps he's not a narcissist and has some other kind of personality disorder. If he enjoys being attacked and gets off on it, that's not TRUE narcissism.     Narcissists get off on all kinds of attention, negative and positive. Trump and Musk are feeding each other's narcissim by finding ways to keep themselves in the news on a daily basis. Even when he wasn't president, Trump constantly looked for ways to be the center of attention. What we're seeing with Trump and Musk partly is a war to be the center of attention.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,371 Posted June 6 So when does Ashton Kutcher pop up and let us know we've all been punked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,251 Posted June 6 Trump tells CNN heâs ânot even thinking about Elonâ and wonât speak to him âfor a whileâ President Donald Trump told CNN on Friday he is ânot even thinking aboutâ billionaire Elon Musk and wonât be speaking to him in the near future. âIâm not even thinking about Elon. Heâs got a problem. The poor guyâs got a problem,â Trump said in a brief phone call. The comments come after a day Trump and Musk traded barbs on social media as their relationship deteriorated in spectacular public fashion. Trump said Thursday he was âvery disappointedâ with the tech billionaire for criticizing his massive tax and spending cuts package while Musk fired back that âTrump would have lost the electionâ without him. In his call with CNN Friday morning, Trump talked about the forthcoming jobs report, which has since been released, inflation and gas prices. Asked if he had a call with Musk, the president responded: âNo. I wonât be speaking to him for a while I guess, but I wish him well.â As the two powerful onetime friends duked it out online on Thursday, their shared allies sought to quietly broker a truce, CNN previously reported. Musk, for his part, appeared open to a thaw. âYouâre not wrong,â Musk responded to a post from billionaire investor Bill Ackman, who wrote on X: âI support @realDonaldTrump and @elonmusk and they should make peace for the benefit of our great country. We are much stronger together than apart.â In a sign of their break, however, Trump is planning to get rid of the Tesla he purchased in March, a senior White House official told CNN. The red vehicle may be sold or possibly given away, another official said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,775 Posted June 6 3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Trump tells CNN heâs ânot even thinking about Elonâ and wonât speak to him âfor a whileâ President Donald Trump told CNN on Friday he is ânot even thinking aboutâ billionaire Elon Musk and wonât be speaking to him in the near future. âIâm not even thinking about Elon. Heâs got a problem. The poor guyâs got a problem,â Trump said in a brief phone call. The comments come after a day Trump and Musk traded barbs on social media as their relationship deteriorated in spectacular public fashion. Trump said Thursday he was âvery disappointedâ with the tech billionaire for criticizing his massive tax and spending cuts package while Musk fired back that âTrump would have lost the electionâ without him. In his call with CNN Friday morning, Trump talked about the forthcoming jobs report, which has since been released, inflation and gas prices. Asked if he had a call with Musk, the president responded: âNo. I wonât be speaking to him for a while I guess, but I wish him well.â As the two powerful onetime friends duked it out online on Thursday, their shared allies sought to quietly broker a truce, CNN previously reported. Musk, for his part, appeared open to a thaw. âYouâre not wrong,â Musk responded to a post from billionaire investor Bill Ackman, who wrote on X: âI support @realDonaldTrump and @elonmusk and they should make peace for the benefit of our great country. We are much stronger together than apart.â In a sign of their break, however, Trump is planning to get rid of the Tesla he purchased in March, a senior White House official told CNN. The red vehicle may be sold or possibly given away, another official said. Kudos to Don for being the bigger man here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,371 Posted June 7 So Kash Patel was on Rogan when the tweet dropped, and Patel refuses to deny the tweet. He would know right? Why wouldn't he defend his boss here? Very very telling.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,371 Posted June 7 On 6/6/2025 at 2:32 PM, TimHauck said: Kudos to Don for being the bigger man here Bigger man? He's scared sh1tless. He knows that Elon knows way more and doesn't want him spilling anything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted June 7 Gutter is in the Epstein list too. Maybe Gutter still bitter because has a bigger dong than he does Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,371 Posted June 9 Funny how this was buried. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 728 Posted June 9 Yes, President Trump knew Epstein. He admitted it himself. -The photos of them together are from before 2003. -In 2004 Trump not only barred Epstein from Mar-a-lago estate, he also placed a bid on property (and won) in Palm Beach that Epstein was looking to purchase, out of spite. -In 2005 Trump revealed Epstein secrets to PBSCO investigation. -In 2006, two of Epsteinâs victims confirmed they knew Trump had barred Epstein from his estate in mar-a-lago. -In 2009 Bradley Edwards (Prosecutor on the Epstein case) made a public statement that Trump was the only individual who aided in the prosecutions against Epstein. -Per victim testimonies on the newly released Epstein/Maxwell documents reveal that Trump was not seen on Epsteinâs island or anywhere with Epstein. This is where it gets fun... -The newly released documents show that the FBI withheld victim evidence in 2009 and in 2014. -Who was the President in 2009 and 2014?-Obama. -Who was the FBI director in 2009?-Mueller -Who was the FBI director in 2014?-Comey -Who led the Russia Collusion Hoax against Trump?-Mueller and Comey. -Who was Muellers key witness during the Russian Collusion?-George Nadler -Who was recently sentenced to 10 years in prison for Pedophilia/Dozens of imagines and footage of children being sexually abused?-George Nadler -Who was the Secretary of State under Obama?-Clinton -Who did Epstein victims list on the pedo island?-Clinton -Who funded the Russian Dossier?-Clinton -Who fired Comey in 2017?-Trump -Who praised Weinstein for being a great human being in 2013?-Obama -Who was Obamaâs VP?-Biden -Who was running for President against Trump?-Biden -Who received campaign donations from Epsteinâs law firm?-Kamala -Who was Bidenâs VP?-Kamala Dems protect the predators. That is so sad. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,251 Posted June 9 14 minutes ago, Nomad99 said: Yes, President Trump knew Epstein. He admitted it himself. -The photos of them together are from before 2003. -In 2004 Trump not only barred Epstein from Mar-a-lago estate, he also placed a bid on property (and won) in Palm Beach that Epstein was looking to purchase, out of spite.  Your history of the relationship isn't supported by the records. WaPo Quote  For the better part of two decades starting in the late 1980s, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump swam in the same social pool. They were neighbors in Florida. They jetted from LaGuardia to Palm Beach together. They partied at Trumpâs Mar-a-Lago Club and dined at Epsteinâs Manhattan mansion. And then, in 2004, they were suddenly rivals, each angling to snag a choice Palm Beach property, an oceanfront manse called Maison de lâAmitie â the House of Friendship â that was being sold out of bankruptcy. Before the auction, Epstein and Trump each tried to work the ref; the trustee in the case, Joseph Luzinski, recalls being lobbied by both camps. âIt was something like, Donald saying, âYou donât want to do a deal with him, he doesnât have the money,â while Epstein was saying: âDonald is all talk. He doesnât have the money,â â Luzinski said. âThey both really wanted it.â But friends and associates said the two wealthy New York-to-Palm Beach commuters had socialized for years, drawn together by a mix of money, women and power. âThey knew each other a long time,â said Sam Nunberg, a former Trump aide who said he pressed the candidate about his ties to Epstein in late 2014 as the real estate mogul considered a White House run. âBottom line, Donald would hang out with Epstein because he was rich.â Their falling out, Trump said, happened about 15 years ago â several years before Epsteinâs conviction on a prostitution solicitation charge. Trump has not said why their relationship ruptured. âThe reason doesnât make any difference, frankly,â the president said. Fifteen years ago, the two men squared off over the Palm Beach mansion. Just a few months later, local police began investigating allegations that Epstein was sexually abusing minors. Trump has also said â without providing details â that he at some point banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago. During that period, the New York developer, casting himself as a carefree playboy billionaire, hosted and attended parties at Mar-a-Lago and elsewhere, sometimes featuring models, cheerleaders and beauty pageant contestants. Trump had a business connection to all three industries: For a time, he ran a modeling agency. He owned a team in the United States Football League, a short-lived competitor to the NFL. And he controlled the Miss Universe pageant. Since the start of his career, Trump had made his love life a central part of his public image. The idea was to build his brand as an avatar of fabulousness and to extend that brand by attaching beautiful women to his name, he has said. âI create stars,â he said on ABCâs âPrimetime Liveâ in 1994, adding: âIâve really gotten a lot of women great opportunity. Unfortunately, after theyâre a star, the fun is over for me. Itâs like a creating process. Itâs almost like creating a building. Itâs pretty sad.â Trumpâs parties at Mar-a-Lago often featured models from Miami who floated around the patio and pool, with many more women than men, friends have recounted. âThatâs true,â Trump said in an interview in 2015, stressing he was single at the time. âThe point was to have fun. It was wild.â âThereâs 100 beautiful women and 10 guys,â Roger Stone, his longtime adviser, told The Post in 2016. âââLook, how cool are we?â .â.â. I mean, it was great.â Epstein, who in 1990 bought his own place in Palm Beach, two miles north of Trumpâs, never became a member of Mar-a-Lago but visited the club for social events, Garten has said. On some of those occasions, Epstein was accompanied by Maxwell. âDonald liked Epstein,â said Steven Hoffenberg, a Trump acquaintance who was Epsteinâs business partner at a New York private equity firm in the 1980s and â90s, until Hoffenberg was convicted of running a massive Ponzi scheme. âBut he was crazy about Maxwell, a very charming lady.â Trump and Epstein speak at a party at Mar-a-Lago in November 1992. (NBC) Epstein made several appearances at Mar-a-Lago. He attended a party there with NFL cheerleaders in 1992, where he was videotaped by an NBC news crew gathering footage for a segment on Trump. The network recently released the footage, in which Trump greets Epstein warmly and whispers in the financierâs ear, leading Epstein to double over in laughter. Behind the scenes the night Trump partied at Mar-a-Lago with Jeffrey Epstein and NFL cheerleaders Photographs and videos show Epstein and Trump posing together at the mansion in 1992, 1997 and 2000. The two were also pictured together, with model Ingrid Seynhaeve, in 1997 at a Victoriaâs Secret party in New York City. It was another prime property on Palm Beach island that pitted the two men against each other â a six-acre oceanfront estate with a 180-degree view of the Atlantic. In November 2004, Trump, who was starring in NBCâs âThe Apprenticeâ at the time, declared himself intent on winning âthe finest piece of land in Florida and probably the U.S.,â an estate that had been seized as part of the bankruptcy of nursing home magnate Abe Gosman. Trump said he planned to create âthe second greatest house in America, Mar-a-Lago being the firstâ and then resell it. Epstein was also enraptured by the property, which Gosman had purchased in 1988 for about $12 million from Leslie Wexner, the Ohio-based retail executive who was a friend and patron of Epsteinâs. In contrast to Trump, Epstein seemed interested in living at the place. Harley Riedel, an attorney for Gosman, said the previous owner had filled the mansion with pricey art and âreally did have in his heart that it would be nice if someone moved in and lived there.â At first, Epstein pressed to gain the upper hand in the competition for the estate, according to Luzinski, the bankruptcy trustee. Epstein agreed on a price and terms that were viewed as favorable for Gosmanâs creditors if a higher bid didnât emerge, he said. As the competition heated up, Trump and Epstein began talking each other down to the trustee, Luzinski said. On Nov. 15, 2004, the bidders, their representatives, and a small cavalry of lawyers representing the creditors and the Gosman family gathered in a courtroom at the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in West Palm Beach. Trump was connected by phone. Trump and Epstein angled to snag the choice Palm Beach mansion, pictured in 2006. (Robert Stevens/robertstevens.com) The auction began with an attempt by one of Epsteinâs three attorneys to knock Trump out of the bidding. Attorney Andrew Kamensky argued that Trump was not qualified because he demanded that the property have title insurance or he would not close on the sale. âWhat Iâm telling you is that Mr. Epstein will â he will close,â Kamensky said, according a transcript obtained by The Post. Trump wasnât in Palm Beach â his own attorney, Raymond Royce, was in the courtroom. But Trump was on the phone, and now he chimed in to defend himself. Riedelâs first notice that Trump might personally take part in the proceedings came when his voice boomed from the speakerphone. âI was sort of shocked,â the lawyer said. Judge Steven Friedman rejected Epsteinâs objection. The bidding began with Epsteinâs offer of $37.25 million, but he dropped out after his bid of $38.6 million was topped. Trump âhad made up his mind to get it no matter the price,â said Charles Tatelbaum, a lawyer for one of Gosmanâs creditors, JPMorgan Chase Bank. A third bidder jumped in late, prompting Trump to pipe up again. âThis is Mr. Trump,â he said over the speakerphone. âIt seemed to be very clear that they dropped out also.â The judge allowed the other bidder, Mark Pulte, to proceed, but Trump outbid him, too, with an offer of $41.35 million. âI will therefore determine by the bang of the gavel that Mr. Trump is the higher bidder,â Friedman said. In an interview, Luzinski described the showdown as âtwo very large Palm Beach egos going at it.â It is unclear whether Trump and Epstein were in contact after the house sale. That month, Trump left two messages for Epstein at his home in Palm Beach, according to records obtained by Vice News â the last known interaction between the two men. Four years after he bought the Gosman mansion, Trump sold it to Russian businessman Dmitry Rybolovlev for $95 million, more than doubling his investment.   1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,977 Posted June 9 2 hours ago, Nomad99 said: Yes, President Trump knew Epstein. He admitted it himself. -The photos of them together are from before 2003. -In 2004 Trump not only barred Epstein from Mar-a-lago estate, he also placed a bid on property (and won) in Palm Beach that Epstein was looking to purchase, out of spite. -In 2005 Trump revealed Epstein secrets to PBSCO investigation. -In 2006, two of Epsteinâs victims confirmed they knew Trump had barred Epstein from his estate in mar-a-lago. -In 2009 Bradley Edwards (Prosecutor on the Epstein case) made a public statement that Trump was the only individual who aided in the prosecutions against Epstein. -Per victim testimonies on the newly released Epstein/Maxwell documents reveal that Trump was not seen on Epsteinâs island or anywhere with Epstein. This is where it gets fun... -The newly released documents show that the FBI withheld victim evidence in 2009 and in 2014. -Who was the President in 2009 and 2014?-Obama. -Who was the FBI director in 2009?-Mueller -Who was the FBI director in 2014?-Comey -Who led the Russia Collusion Hoax against Trump?-Mueller and Comey. -Who was Muellers key witness during the Russian Collusion?-George Nadler -Who was recently sentenced to 10 years in prison for Pedophilia/Dozens of imagines and footage of children being sexually abused?-George Nadler -Who was the Secretary of State under Obama?-Clinton -Who did Epstein victims list on the pedo island?-Clinton -Who funded the Russian Dossier?-Clinton -Who fired Comey in 2017?-Trump -Who praised Weinstein for being a great human being in 2013?-Obama -Who was Obamaâs VP?-Biden -Who was running for President against Trump?-Biden -Who received campaign donations from Epsteinâs law firm?-Kamala -Who was Bidenâs VP?-Kamala Dems protect the predators. That is so sad. What Facebook influencer did you steal this from? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,136 Posted June 9 5 hours ago, Nomad99 said: Yes, President Trump knew Epstein. He admitted it himself. -The photos of them together are from before 2003. -In 2004 Trump not only barred Epstein from Mar-a-lago estate, he also placed a bid on property (and won) in Palm Beach that Epstein was looking to purchase, out of spite. -In 2005 Trump revealed Epstein secrets to PBSCO investigation. -In 2006, two of Epsteinâs victims confirmed they knew Trump had barred Epstein from his estate in mar-a-lago. -In 2009 Bradley Edwards (Prosecutor on the Epstein case) made a public statement that Trump was the only individual who aided in the prosecutions against Epstein. -Per victim testimonies on the newly released Epstein/Maxwell documents reveal that Trump was not seen on Epsteinâs island or anywhere with Epstein. This is where it gets fun... -The newly released documents show that the FBI withheld victim evidence in 2009 and in 2014. -Who was the President in 2009 and 2014?-Obama. -Who was the FBI director in 2009?-Mueller -Who was the FBI director in 2014?-Comey -Who led the Russia Collusion Hoax against Trump?-Mueller and Comey. -Who was Muellers key witness during the Russian Collusion?-George Nadler -Who was recently sentenced to 10 years in prison for Pedophilia/Dozens of imagines and footage of children being sexually abused?-George Nadler -Who was the Secretary of State under Obama?-Clinton -Who did Epstein victims list on the pedo island?-Clinton -Who funded the Russian Dossier?-Clinton -Who fired Comey in 2017?-Trump -Who praised Weinstein for being a great human being in 2013?-Obama -Who was Obamaâs VP?-Biden -Who was running for President against Trump?-Biden -Who received campaign donations from Epsteinâs law firm?-Kamala -Who was Bidenâs VP?-Kamala Dems protect the predators. That is so sad. Who didnât release the files because they are in them? -Donald 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,954 Posted June 9 1 hour ago, thegeneral said: Who didnât release the files because they are in them? -Donald  Gutterboy is spazzing again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,954 Posted June 9 3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: What Facebook influencer did you steal this from? Your boyfriend. He leads a secret life while you babysit the kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,241 Posted June 11 Fake fued https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1932695486684950962?s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,371 Posted June 11 5 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Fake fued https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1932695486684950962?s=19 What was the point of faking it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,136 Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Fake fued https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1932695486684950962?s=19 Riiiight Elonâs ketamine wore off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,415 Posted June 11 2 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:Fake fued https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1932695486684950962?s=19 Â I said this when it started it from the beginning of this tiff. A page out of the WWE. Love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,306 Posted June 11 Humbling himself before the Alpha. He shouldnât get out of line again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,136 Posted June 11 14 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said: Â I said this when it started it from the beginning of this tiff. A page out of the WWE. Love it. Yeah Elon loves to look like a total betch. Good call Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,415 Posted June 12 2 hours ago, thegeneral said: Yeah Elon loves to look like a total betch. Good call  The richest man in WORLD, and smartest, really care about his thoughts of progesive little biotches? Nothing wrong with having some fun at the expense of his critics and Trumps, who lost it. Angering many of the MSM fake news. Brilliant 𼰠Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,136 Posted June 12 14 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:  The richest man in WORLD, and smartest, really care about his thoughts of progesive little biotches? Nothing wrong with having some fun at the expense of his critics and Trumps, who lost it. Angering many of the MSM fake news. Brilliant 𼰠Yeah I really donât see whatâs to gain from any of this. He looked like a chump in real time, now heâs hearting Trump vids and groveling. Looks even worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,371 Posted June 12 Trump allowed Elon to call him a pedo to anger the fake news? That's what we're going with? Good Lord are you people dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,415 Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Yeah I really donât see whatâs to gain from any of this. He looked like a chump in real time, now heâs hearting Trump vids and groveling. Looks even worse.  Whatâs to lose? I believe there is a third part of this play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,415 Posted June 12 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Trump allowed Elon to call him a pedo to anger the fake news? That's what we're going with? Good Lord are you people dumb.  It angered you and also distracted and confused you and your kind. Fawking love it. And itâs still working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,371 Posted June 12 1 minute ago, BunnysBastatrds said:  It angered you and also distracted and confused you and your kind. Fawking love it. And itâs still working. You think I was angered? I loved it, I was entertained. I wish they would keep fighting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,136 Posted June 12 10 minutes ago, BunnysBastatrds said:  Whatâs to lose? I believe there is a third part of this play. Dignity! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,415 Posted June 12 30 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: You think I was angered? I loved it, I was entertained. I wish they would keep fighting.  So you are admitting that you are a hardcore progesive finally? When the bits over, Tim to unveil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,241 Posted June 12 9 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Trump allowed Elon to call him a pedo to anger the fake news? That's what we're going with? Good Lord are you people dumb. Elon didn't call him a pedo. He said Trump is in the files. Which he is since he was in Epstein's black book and he flew on his jet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,371 Posted June 12 4 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Elon didn't call him a pedo. He said Trump is in the files. Which he is since he was in Epstein's black book and he flew on his jet. That's already been released. What Elon said was they haven't released the unreleased files yet because Trump is in them, Â meaning he's a pedo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,475 Posted June 12 I am wondering if Trump (or someone) told Elon he'd be slapped with a libel charge if the didn't say something. Or they had a few beers and Elon was like, "Oh that? I was just kidding." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,136 Posted June 12 4 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Elon didn't call him a pedo. He said Trump is in the files. Which he is since he was in Epstein's black book and he flew on his jet. The conspiracy theories you buy into only seem to go in one direction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites