SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 6 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: If you look at it logically, what I'm saying makes sense. My point still stands that if Trump died tomorrow, and the media stopped talking about the Epstein list, liberals wouldn't think about sexual abuse of minors any more. They would move onto whatever they were told to move onto. IMO this is fair food for thought. Journalists have been after this stuff since before 2015. There was a judge who stayed on the bench into his 90s who repeatedly kept court records sealed. For a long time it was maybe 2-3 journalists pursuing this story wayyy before Trump was ever mentioned & by & large few cared. But by the same token it was maga that drove this, not liberals. The original premise was that Clinton & hyperpowerful people in The Swamp were being covered for. Go see Jon’s posts as he is still at it. Even now the same thing that happened with Epstein - favorable jail conditions - is happening with Maxwell. Exact same pattern. It’s happening now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,490 Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Ask Bill Clinton Isn’t his nickname “Bubba”? Maybe we should… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,051 Posted 5 hours ago Trump campaigned on "Release the Epstein Files" So shouldn't MAGA be saying "This is what I voted for"? Does that only apply when it might hurt your boy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 5 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Ask Bill Clinton, Reid Hoffman, and Larry Summers about Epstein, they know all about him, And Bannon. And the Russians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 5 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: don’t waste your time with Trump. This guy is not only the most prolific liar in world history he’s also the worst. This is the 5 year old telling his parents that whatever they do they shouldn’t look at the cookie jar. I’m convinced this guy was uniquely unsocialized as a child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,628 Posted 5 hours ago 42 minutes ago, HellToupee said: @TheDemocrats tweet out BREAKING: Newly released emails show Jeffrey Epstein thought Trump was one of the worst people he knew, with “not one decent cell in his body.” He went on to describe Trump with one word: “Dangerous.” The world’s most well known pedo and human trafficker thinks Don is dangerous. Yeeesh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 5 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: blowing bubba? WTF There is a *lot going on in that email. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 5 hours ago 48 minutes ago, HellToupee said: @TheDemocrats tweet out BREAKING: Newly released emails show Jeffrey Epstein thought Trump was one of the worst people he knew, with “not one decent cell in his body.” He went on to describe Trump with one word: “Dangerous.” “I know how dirty Donald is.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,906 Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: If you look at it logically, what I'm saying makes sense. My point still stands that if Trump died tomorrow, and the media stopped talking about the Epstein list, liberals wouldn't think about sexual abuse of minors any more. They would move onto whatever they were told to move onto. Isn’t the inverse true? If MAGA cared about the sexual abuse of minors so much, why do they defend a guy who campaigned for Roy Moore, nominated Matt Gaetz for AG, pardoned the CEO of a business that worked with child pornographers, hung out with sex traffickers, etc. Seems to me your concern is entirely partisan. Edit: Trump set himself up for this when he let his AG promise to release the files and appointed truthers like Kash and Bongino. I keep asking myself why he’s do that knowing he was all over the files? The only explanation is he knew guys like you would believe anything Daddy says, no matter how contradictory, stupid and wild his claims were. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 5 hours ago 53 minutes ago, HellToupee said: He went on to describe Trump with one word: “Dangerous.” He actually appears to be describing what someone else (Ruemmler) said about Trump. Here’s the email. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: Looks like Trump is going back to the Nile this morning. LOL now he’s telling Bondi to investigate Epstein again. I’m almost starting to feel sympathy for Pam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,251 Posted 4 hours ago Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said: LOL now he’s telling Bondi to investigate Epstein again. I’m almost starting to feel sympathy for Pam. He's unhinged. We've gone from RELEASE THE FILES to THE INVESTIGATION IS OVER to now INVESTIGATE THE DEMOCRATS. We're witnessing the unraveling of a psychopath. I just hope he doesn't destroy the rest of the world on his way out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,628 Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: LOL now he’s telling Bondi to investigate Epstein again. I’m almost starting to feel sympathy for Pam. This will be what the majority of the hardcore maga go with I think - Trump is innocent, it’s a hoax, and Epstein actually did all this creeper stuff but only with Democrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 172 Posted 4 hours ago https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/14/republican-pressure-trump-epstein-files A whole lot of "whoa!" in this article. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, FrancieFootball said: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/14/republican-pressure-trump-epstein-files A whole lot of "whoa!" in this article. I’ve seen it pointed out that the reason for using The Situation Room with Boebert & Co. was they could be sure it wouldn’t be recorded, as what happened with the attempt to subvert Georgia vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 175 Posted 3 hours ago MAGA is resigned to the fact that they have to defend Trump at all costs. That's what cult followers do. So, here we are, with MAGA defenses and deflections emerging fast and furious. What an embarrassment for the country. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,147 Posted 3 hours ago Cult of OMB is resigned to the fact Trump can’t stop winning. That’s what cult followers do. So here we are, with the Cult of OMB refusing to accept getting skunked on the shutdown, so now they pivot to debunked Epstein stories their deflections from their failures are emerging fast and furious. What an embarrassment for the country. 1 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 172 Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Cult of OMB is resigned to the fact Trump can’t stop winning. That’s what cult followers do. So here we are, with the Cult of OMB refusing to accept getting skunked on the shutdown, so now they pivot to debunked Epstein stories their deflections from their failures are emerging fast and furious. What an embarrassment for the country. Being a pedo isn't winning, honey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,147 Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: Being a pedo isn't winning, honey. He’s not a pedo. Debunked dozens of times. Did you forget to change your account? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,445 Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: blowing bubba? WTF Burying the lead on that one - Steve Bannon is prediabetic, who would have thought!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,445 Posted 3 hours ago I'll tell you one thing, the more I read about Epstein, the more I'm glad Hillary had him killed. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 793 Posted 3 hours ago 16 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: honey. LOL, you working the checkout line at Piggly Wiggly now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,490 Posted 2 hours ago How MAGA has reacted: https://www.newsweek.com/maga-react-trump-epstein-revelations-11043674 Steve Bannon: “Trump isn’t perfect.” Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,249 Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, FrancieFootball said: Being a pedo isn't winning, honey. If these emails are evidence that Trump abused children, wouldn’t that make Joe Biden,Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray, and Kamala Harris accomplices since they had all this information and didn’t prosecute Trump? Did you think this through? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,251 Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, HellToupee said: If these emails are evidence that Trump abused children, wouldn’t that make Joe Biden,Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray, and Kamala Harris accomplices since they had all this information and didn’t prosecute Trump? Did you think this through? The latest batch of emails didn't come from the DOJ, it came from the Epstein estate. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 172 Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, HellToupee said: If these emails are evidence that Trump abused children, wouldn’t that make Joe Biden,Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray, and Kamala Harris accomplices since they had all this information and didn’t prosecute Trump? Did you think this through? Why didn't Trump do something when he knew that Epstein was trafficking and having sex with children? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 172 Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: The latest batch of emails didn't come from the DOJ, it came from the Epstein estate. HTH. Ooops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 172 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said: He’s not a pedo. Debunked dozens of times. Did you forget to change your account? None of this new information has been debunked, and it adds to the growing pile of indicators that Trump is a pedo. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 1 hour ago On 11/12/2025 at 9:31 AM, Ron_Artest said: https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/news/press-releases/house-oversight-committee-releases-jeffrey-epstein-email-correspondence-raising "i want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is trump. [VICTIM] spent hours at my house with him" Oh boy. Does anyone know what this phrase, “the dog that hasn’t barked” means? It’s from Sherlock Holmes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,251 Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Does anyone know what this phrase, “the dog that hasn’t barked” means? It’s from Sherlock Holmes. What does it mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 175 Posted 1 hour ago Thinking about what Megyn Kelly said. Her phrasing was dumb, she is defending illegal behavior after all, but it’s pretty clear what she was saying. Her point was that Trump and Epstein aren’t the type of pedophiles that sexually assault pre-pubescents. They’re the type of pedophiliacs who rape girls between the ages of 14-17. Kelly just didn’t know how to say it including all of the correct words, so I did her a favor and corrected that here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,490 Posted 1 hour ago 39 minutes ago, HellToupee said: If these emails are evidence that Trump abused children They’re not. We don’t know what Trump did or didn’t do. The only thing we know, or think we know, at this point is: 1. Epstein’s emails suggest Trump is lying when he claims he has no idea what Epstein was involved in. (BTW, this claim was also contradicted by Leavitt yesterday when she said that Trump kicked Epstein out of Maralago because he was a pedophile- Trump claims it was another non related reason. 2. Epstein’s emails suggest Trump is lying about never spending time at Epstein’s house. 3. Trump’s statements and actions regarding this matter ever since March of this year are entirely inconsistent with those of an innocent person with nothing to hide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,334 Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, MDC said: Isn’t the inverse true? If MAGA cared about the sexual abuse of minors so much, why do they defend a guy who campaigned for Roy Moore, nominated Matt Gaetz for AG, pardoned the CEO of a business that worked with child pornographers, hung out with sex traffickers, etc. Seems to me your concern is entirely partisan. Edit: Trump set himself up for this when he let his AG promise to release the files and appointed truthers like Kash and Bongino. I keep asking myself why he’s do that knowing he was all over the files? The only explanation is he knew guys like you would believe anything Daddy says, no matter how contradictory, stupid and wild his claims were. Why do the other former sitting presidents all hate Trump if he is just part of the same club of pedos? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 388 Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Why do the other former sitting presidents all hate Trump if he is just part of the same club of pedos? Cause he's an a$$hole. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 388 Posted 1 hour ago I guess we now know the genesis of the name "The Big Beautiful Bill". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 29 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: What does it mean? FYI just googling this, so maybe there are better descriptions, but here’re a couple: >>The "curious incident of the dog in the night-time" is easily explained: the dog made no noise because no stranger was there. Holmes explains, "I had grasped the significance of the silence of the dog, for one true inference invariably suggests others.... Obviously the midnight visitor was someone whom the dog knew well"<< Link >>The fact that the dog did not bark when you would expect it to do so while a horse was stolen led Homes to the conclusion that the evildoer was a not a stranger to the dog, but someone the dog recognized and thus would not cause him to bark. Holmes drew a conclusion from a fact (barking) that did not occur, which can be referred to as a “negative fact,” or for the purpose of this discussion, an expected fact absent from the record.<< Link It’s a way of saying that the dog’s master was the criminal & you know that because the dog was present for the crime and didn’t bark when it happened. Trump is the dog and Epstein was the master there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 172 Posted 11 minutes ago This vindictive twat. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-epstein-bondi-clinton-larry-summers-reid-hoffman-jpmorgan-chase-rcna243971 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,906 Posted 10 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Why do the other former sitting presidents all hate Trump if he is just part of the same club of pedos? The same reason almost everyone has hated Trump for 50 years: He is a massive ass hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 665 Posted 4 minutes ago 5 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: This vindictive twat. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-epstein-bondi-clinton-larry-summers-reid-hoffman-jpmorgan-chase-rcna243971 Three months ago DOJ said they found no evidence of crimes justifying investigation of third parties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites