Engorgeous George 2,284 Posted Sunday at 09:08 PM I worry that one of Iran's nuclear allies might provide them what they cannot make themselves. Nuclear ambitions are not thwarted simply because they lack the current ability to make their own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,353 Posted Sunday at 09:28 PM Secretary of State Marco Rubio told Fox News on Sunday morning that China should ask Iran to keep the shipping lane open because of Asia’s need for oil delivered through the strait. He warned Iran against the action. “If they do that, it will be another terrible mistake. It’s economic suicide for them if they do it. And we retain options to deal with that. But other countries should be looking at that as well. It would hurt other countries’ economies a lot worse than ours. It would be, I think, a massive escalation that would merit a response, not just by us, but from others,” he said on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,353 Posted Sunday at 09:31 PM 21 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I worry that one of Iran's nuclear allies might provide them what they cannot make themselves. Nuclear ambitions are not thwarted simply because they lack the current abilitaiy to make their own. Google AI - Other nations have provided Iran with nuclear reactors. The United States initially provided Iran with a research reactor under the "Atoms for Peace" program in the 1960s. Later, during the Shah's rule, France and West Germany also signed contracts to supply Iran with power reactors. After the Iranian revolution, Russia completed the construction of the Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant and continues to supply fuel. China also assisted with the Isfahan Nuclear Technology Center. These of course may all be destroyed now. Your concern is legitimate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,331 Posted Sunday at 09:46 PM Trump now posting about regime change. He's a full blown neocon. Of course youre all gonna fall in line 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,331 Posted Sunday at 09:56 PM Vance and Rubio said this morning no regime change. Then trump posts make Iran great again 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,148 Posted Sunday at 10:01 PM 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Vance and Rubio said this morning no regime change. Then trump posts make Iran great again Google pictures of Iran before the ayatollahs took over. It was one of the most progressive countries in the middle east and the standard of living was through the roof. If it still existed in that form today it would be a top 10 vacation destination. The zealots have taken back to the stone age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,887 Posted Sunday at 10:04 PM 17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Trump now posting about regime change. He's a full blown neocon. Of course youre all gonna fall in line The GOP is alive and well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,331 Posted Sunday at 10:15 PM 11 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: Google pictures of Iran before the ayatollahs took over. It was one of the most progressive countries in the middle east and the standard of living was through the roof. If it still existed in that form today it would be a top 10 vacation destination. The zealots have taken back to the stone age. Yes I know this. I have a good friend that fled iran during the revolution. The Iranian people want regime change as well. Remember what happened in Iraq? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,265 Posted Sunday at 10:17 PM I like JD a lot. But it’s got to be Rubio in 28. The guy has been so impressive. He’s really come into his own. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,652 Posted Sunday at 10:23 PM 10 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Poor TACO. RIP. I kind of liked the TACO thing. Trump has plenty of time to chicken out on more stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,331 Posted Sunday at 10:28 PM Reports that the Iranians moved the uranium before we bombed them. Whoops! https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/22/politics/iran-strike-analysis-raises-questions 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,922 Posted Sunday at 10:33 PM 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Reports that the Iranians moved the uranium before we bombed them. Whoops! Reports say you libtards just make shlt up because you are all butt hurt TDS infected dopes. Too bad for you gutternuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 659 Posted Sunday at 10:45 PM 58 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Trump now posting about regime change. He's a full blown neocon. Of course youre all gonna fall in line Make Iran Great Again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,637 Posted Sunday at 11:15 PM I think we can all agree that if Iran closes Hormuz it will be worse for them than for anyone else, so hopefully that will be reason enough for them not to do it. Of course the same reasoning applies to nukes: if Iran had nukes and used them they would be immediately obliterated. So why don’t we want them to have nukes? Because there is a chance, a reasonable chance, that they truly are crazy motherfockers and would use them anyhow. And if that is true they just might close Hormuz anyhow. We will have to wait and find out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,637 Posted Sunday at 11:17 PM 30 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said: Make Iran Great Again There is nothing wrong with wanting regime change in Iran. All people of good will should hope for it and I have no problem with Trump calling for it. More power to him. If he attempts to use the American military to bring that about that’s different and I think I would oppose that. But there’s no sign of that yet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,284 Posted Sunday at 11:25 PM 56 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Reports that the Iranians moved the uranium before we bombed them. Whoops! https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/22/politics/iran-strike-analysis-raises-questions Anything is possible, of course, but as between CNN and US and Isreali intelligence I tend to believe that we know if the material has been moved and CNN does not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,331 Posted Sunday at 11:32 PM 6 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Anything is possible, of course, but as between CNN and US and Isreali intelligence I tend to believe that we know if the material has been moved and CNN does not. Well US intelligence said that Iran wasn't close to a nuke but we attacked anyway. Israel has said they have been close to a nuke for decades. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,284 Posted Sunday at 11:36 PM 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Well US intelligence said that Iran wasn't close to a nuke but we attacked anyway. Israel has said they have been close to a nuke for decades. All lies and jest Still a man hears, what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,922 Posted Sunday at 11:37 PM 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Well US intelligence said that Iran wasn't close to a nuke but we attacked anyway. Israel has said they have been close to a nuke for decades. gutternuts telling everyone that he knows more than the military. He finds the View to be way more credible so that's what he runs with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,908 Posted Sunday at 11:56 PM 22 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: 29 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Well US intelligence said that Iran wasn't close to a nuke What the hell is the difference? Should we wait till they have one? The threat has been eliminated. Now or later, what's the difference? It's much easier now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,637 Posted Monday at 12:07 AM 30 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: All lies and jest Still a man hears, what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. Immortal lyrics. Have you ever encountered a modern day political figure more emblematic of them than Donald Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,235 Posted Monday at 12:12 AM 5 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: I just want to be clear and on the record that if this is going to drift towards anti Semitism or anything like that I'm 100% out on that. But outside of that- it has been reported by many that Israel has many nuclear warheads at the ready should they need them. But we ain't stopping them. It's called the Samson option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,265 Posted Monday at 12:18 AM 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: Reports that the Iranians moved the uranium before we bombed them. Whoops! https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/22/politics/iran-strike-analysis-raises-questions What a clown. We knew when and where these savages took a dump but they were able to move uranium around undetected. You’re such an easy mark. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,331 Posted Monday at 12:40 AM 43 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: What the hell is the difference? Should we wait till they have one? The threat has been eliminated. Now or later, what's the difference? It's much easier now. Well we don't know if the threat has been eliminated or not yet, but we do know we created a new threat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,315 Posted Monday at 12:44 AM 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: Well US intelligence said that Iran wasn't close to a nuke but we attacked anyway. Israel has said they have been close to a nuke for decades. You must think an abortion at 9 months is better than during the first trimester 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,353 Posted Monday at 12:59 AM The U.S. strikes did not result in any casualties. per Iran per Tehran Times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,637 Posted Monday at 12:59 AM So I’ve been thinking about this all day and reading different opinions, and I’ve come to the conclusion that President Trump made the right choice. That could change if I learn more I don’t know right now. But based on what I know it was the right decision. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,420 Posted Monday at 01:12 AM So a Russian leader, who would probably know, admitted today that Iran was enriching Uranium for and planning to produce Nuclear weapons, and that it would continue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,652 Posted Monday at 01:14 AM 14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: So I’ve been thinking about this all day and reading different opinions, and I’ve come to the conclusion that President Trump made the right choice. That could change if I learn more I don’t know right now. But based on what I know it was the right decision. Dang, so now we know it definitely was the wrong decision. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,420 Posted Monday at 01:15 AM Just now, nobody said: Dang, so now we know it definitely was the wrong decision. Don't worry. Tim will change his mind again thus making it the right decision again. Give him a couple of hours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,726 Posted Monday at 01:16 AM 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I like JD a lot. But it’s got to be Rubio in 28. The guy has been so impressive. He’s really come into his own. Wife and I talked about this. JD seems more presidential than Rubio IMO. But I'm concerned he's too much of an isolationist. I'll be interested to see if it turns into an open primary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,726 Posted Monday at 01:18 AM 2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Reports that the Iranians moved the uranium before we bombed them. Whoops! https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/22/politics/iran-strike-analysis-raises-questions Whew, thank goodness if true! They can continue to pursue their peaceful nuclear power plants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,420 Posted Monday at 01:18 AM 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Wife and I talked about this. JD seems more presidential than Rubio IMO. But I'm concerned he's too much of an isolationist. I'll be interested to see if it turns into an open primary. Eh. J.D. is a pup politically. He's got a couple years to hone his skills to prepare for the next level. I like the idea of continuity between the administrations myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,652 Posted Monday at 01:20 AM With the impending war, we probably need to keep Trump in there. Don't change horses midstream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,331 Posted Monday at 01:25 AM 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Whew, thank goodness if true! They can continue to pursue their peaceful nuclear power plants. Well Donald Trump says the program has been totally obliterated and he's never wrong so.... Fake news? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,331 Posted Monday at 01:27 AM Would be pretty ironic if we end up nuking a country to prevent them from getting a nuke, all in the name of peace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,315 Posted Monday at 01:27 AM Just now, Ron_Artest said: Would be pretty ironic if we end up nuking a country to prevent them from getting a nuke, all in the name of peace. all countries nuked in history have turned out amazing within a century Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,726 Posted Monday at 01:28 AM 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Well Donald Trump says the program has been totally obliterated and he's never wrong so.... Fake news? Again non-responsive. Iran is developing nuclear bombs, yes or no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,284 Posted Monday at 01:28 AM 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Immortal lyrics. Have you ever encountered a modern day political figure more emblematic of them than Donald Trump? It is a matter of degrees, but no, probably not. Certainly i would put maxine watters, AOC, MTC and Bobbert up as contenders, but trump probably trumps them all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,922 Posted Monday at 01:31 AM 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Well Donald Trump says the program has been totally obliterated and he's never wrong so.... Fake news? You are so stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
