The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: so all those countries are socialist? thats news to me, obviously those systems failed and still had voting in place to fix things No they’re not socialist. Their leaders in each case tried to implement socialist ideas. Some have lasted particularly in Western Europe (universal health care and old age benefits for example.) Others have been reversed over time. The point is none of them became Communist. Actually thinking about this a little more I would be hard put to find ANY Conmunist countries that arose out of Socialism. All the ones I can think of came to power through bloody revolution (Soviet Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Cambodia, several counties in Africa) or military occupation (eastern Europe after 1945.) There may be examples I’m not considering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 1 8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: taxation is theft the only taxation that should be legal is on imports and non essential purchases taxing the same dollar 800 times is ghey 2) there is no difference between communism and "democratic" socialism, putting democratic in front of it doesn't make it any better. You should ABSOLUTELY never be able to vote to take away the fruits of my labor, I dont care if I am a billionaire and you are piss poor living on the street, do better I have already explained to you the differences. Several times now. I won’t comment further on your views on taxation except to point out that if you have voted for any of the major candidates for political office in your lifetime then you have voted for someone who supports taxation forced by law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 1 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No they’re not socialist. Their leaders in each case tried to implement socialist ideas. Some have lasted particularly in Western Europe (universal health care and old age benefits for example.) Others have been reversed over time. The point is none of them became Communist. Actually thinking about this a little more I would be hard put to find ANY Conmunist countries that arose out of Socialism. All the ones I can think of came to power through bloody revolution (Soviet Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, Cambodia, several counties in Africa) or military occupation (eastern Europe after 1945.) There may be examples I’m not considering. Just thought of one: Nicaragua under the Sandinistas. So MAYBE them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted July 1 14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I have already explained to you the differences. Several times now. I won’t comment further on your views on taxation except to point out that if you have voted for any of the major candidates for political office in your lifetime then you have voted for someone who supports taxation forced by law. I am not a single issue voter, the only candidate I have ever fully supported is Ron Paul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,797 Posted July 1 28 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Israel also provides an excellent example of a smaller communal society that is socialist but not communist; the kibbutz. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz Only small, contained societies can make a form of socialism work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 1 7 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Only small, contained societies can make a form of socialism work. Well I would argue that even they can’t do it. I certainly wouldn’t want to live in one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,100 Posted July 2 The DSA platform is insane if anyone cares to read it. I predicted the retards would defend this. I’m like Nostradamus for leftist retards. https://www.dsausa.org/dsa-political-platform-from-2021-convention/#abolition-carceral I think these are great ideas and we should definitely elected leaders who will implement them. Seems weird the DNC has adopted a lot of their talking points. There’s too much stupid to list it all. Social ownership of all major industries Social ownership and democratic control of utilities and key industries including railroads, water, gas, electric, telecommunications, media, and internet service providers and other critical sectors of the economy through direct government support, public banks, and pension funds at every level of government A new political order through a second constitutional convention to write the founding documents of a new socialist democracy Defund the police by rejecting any expansion to police budgets or scope of enforcement while cutting budgets annually towards zero End all misdemeanor offenses, accounting for 80% of total court dockets, reduce jail churn by reducing arrests, and cut funding to prosecutor’s offices Freedom for all incarcerated people Extend and expand sanctuary protection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted July 2 Can’t imagine a savage running NYC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 2 37 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: The DSA platform is insane if anyone cares to read it. I predicted the retards would defend this. I’m like Nostradamus for leftist retards. https://www.dsausa.org/dsa-political-platform-from-2021-convention/#abolition-carceral I think these are great ideas and we should definitely elected leaders who will implement them. Seems weird the DNC has adopted a lot of their talking points. There’s too much stupid to list it all. Social ownership of all major industries Social ownership and democratic control of utilities and key industries including railroads, water, gas, electric, telecommunications, media, and internet service providers and other critical sectors of the economy through direct government support, public banks, and pension funds at every level of government A new political order through a second constitutional convention to write the founding documents of a new socialist democracy Defund the police by rejecting any expansion to police budgets or scope of enforcement while cutting budgets annually towards zero End all misdemeanor offenses, accounting for 80% of total court dockets, reduce jail churn by reducing arrests, and cut funding to prosecutor’s offices Freedom for all incarcerated people Extend and expand sanctuary protection 99% of this will never happen even if we elected Demcratic Socialists to every major office (if you don’t believe this I would recommend studying the socialist governments of Clement Atlee in Britain and Olaf Palme in Sweden.) I much prefer centrist Democrats like Rick Caruso. Even so I WILL vote for these folks if MAGA is the alternative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,100 Posted July 2 14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: 99% of this will never happen even if we elected Demcratic Socialists to every major office (if you don’t believe this I would recommend studying the socialist governments of Clement Atlee in Britain and Olaf Palme in Sweden.) I much prefer centrist Democrats like Rick Caruso. Even so I WILL vote for these folks if MAGA is the alternative. #ifindretards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted July 2 26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: 99% of this will never happen even if we elected Demcratic Socialists to every major office (if you don’t believe this I would recommend studying the socialist governments of Clement Atlee in Britain and Olaf Palme in Sweden.) I much prefer centrist Democrats like Rick Caruso. Even so I WILL vote for these folks if MAGA is the alternative. Real Tim thinks there are going to be numerous elections where it’s a radical socialist running against a MAGA candidate. It’s the fantasy he’s dreamt up in his head so he can come here and tout the socialist, even though there was no such choice. Nor will there be. He’s a man child. And it’s sad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,873 Posted July 2 23 hours ago, Mike Hunt said: Well, that kinda like people saying they like black people as a whole but just hate the culture. No it’s not. He doesn’t even have an issue with the people of Israel, it’s more the government. If anything it’d be like saying you don’t have a problem with black people as a whole but you don’t like Somalians. I know there’s a poster here that lives in Minnesota or something and claims they have often been found to perpetuate scams (oddly enough, similar to Hasidic Jews, but speaking out against Hasidic Jews doesn’t mean you’re anti-Semitic as whole. Of course people like @Cdub100 like to project things that Hasidic Jews do onto all Jews, but they might as well be a different religion). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted July 2 16 minutes ago, TimHauck said: No it’s not. He doesn’t even have an issue with the people of Israel, it’s more the government. It’s a convenient excuse to use . Gives him cover Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,200 Posted July 2 Speaking of "savages" who eat with their hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,545 Posted July 2 21 minutes ago, HellToupee said: It’s a convenient excuse to use . Gives him cover I have no doubt this is rampant among all of government... not just one side or the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted July 2 21 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So this idiot wants to expand on public housing. Much like Tim and Gutterboy, he’s never been in the projects. The Cabrini Green was nice. Haven't been in years and don't know if it even still stands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,580 Posted July 2 I can tell you what I’m not going to do. Study socialist governments. LOFL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted July 2 19 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: I can tell you what I’m not going to do. Study socialist governments. LOFL You don’t need to. Only those that make dumb claims about them should study them before those claims are made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,023 Posted July 2 40 minutes ago, squistion said: It's too easy.... Liberals are broken. So fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted July 3 On 6/27/2025 at 11:05 AM, The Real timschochet said: From what I’ve been able to learn about Mamdami: 1. He’s not a Communist, nowhere close. Like Bernie and AOC, he’s a Democratic Socialist. The two ideologies are very opposed, not similar at all. DS believes in free speech, Democracy, and our current system of free enterprise (though with much more government involvement.) Communists don’t. 2. While Mamdami was at one time in favor of the original set of “defund police” ideas (which was ALWAYS falsely titled; the ideas actually involved a nuanced reallocation of police funds and duties based on recommendations from police groups and advocacy groups, NOT a defunding) he has since changed his position, correctly realizing that whatever good was originally intended, the word “defund” is political poison. 3. Most of Mamdami’s economic ideas are irrelevant to any time he spends as mayor because he does not have the power to enact them. He is not a lawgiver. Like all other mayors his effectiveness will be based on his level of efficiency in keeping existing structures running. In this regard it should be noted that the man historians regard as the greatest mayor in New York history, Fiorello LaGuardia, was also a Democratic Socialist. This is nothing new. 4. Mamdami is a centrist Muslim, like most Muslims living in this country. His wife does not cover. He is not an Islamist, nor does he share the extreme Muslim beliefs of Islamist clerics. He is a feminist and pro LBTQ+. 5. Mamdami is not anti-Semitic. Nor is he anti-Israel. He is anti-Netanyahu and highly critical of Israel’s current government. Mamdami does not support Hamas. Once these facts are accepted, we can then have an intelligent conversation about what kind of mayor this guy will be. Until then we can’t. I wouldn't worry too much about the labels political opponents come up with for politicians they don't like. We get labeled as Nazis, fascists, racists, homophobes, sexists, threat to democracy, yada yada yada by leftoid freaks all the time. It's just noise. Mamdani is what he is. He advocates for a slew of polices that have failed time and again whenever tried. New York is going to suffer for voting for him, but they get what they elect. This generation has to see Socialism fail for themselves. I say let Mamdani, Karen Bass, Lori Lightfoot, Brandon Johnson, Ted Wheeler, London Breed, Jenny Dirtcan, Murial Bowser and the rest teach them. I don't live there, I don't care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 763 Posted July 3 9 hours ago, squistion said: Now do drinking water, clown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted July 3 10 hours ago, squistion said: Another beaut Matthew VanDyke @Matt_VanDyke Founder, Sons of Liberty International, #veterans training Ukrainian forces to fight Russia. A 501c3 nonprofit org: http://SonsOfLibertyInternational.com Media PersonalityUkraine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,430 Posted July 3 Just now, squistion said: Imagine caring what a skank like that had to say. Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,873 Posted July 3 19 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Another beaut Matthew VanDyke @Matt_VanDyke Founder, Sons of Liberty International, #veterans training Ukrainian forces to fight Russia. A 501c3 nonprofit org: http://SonsOfLibertyInternational.com Media PersonalityUkraine I better not ever see you post something from Benny Johnson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted July 3 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Imagine caring what a skank like that had to say. Sad. Or thinking she has made a valid point or cogent argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted July 3 1 minute ago, squistion said: white people she looks like a real lovely one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, squistion said: This is a dumb post , even for your standards. why don’t you start a thread strictly for your Twitter posts and save up all the monotonous content you copy & paste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted July 3 18 hours ago, squistion said: I don't think these posts are having the effect you are intending them to have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted July 3 The list of things i eat with my hands is fairly long and in addition to those already listed includes fried chicken and chicken wings, brownies, brats, egg rolls, ribs, fied mushrooms, toast, biscuits, nuts, asnd sliced veggies. Some things i will always use a utensil for include rice and peas, except when served in Ethiopea were I eat rice by grabbing it with the soda bread they serve (injera Sp?). Do I care how this moke eats his rice, not in the least. Would I eat from his plate, absolutely not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted July 4 Epic takedown https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLoso9_MSkm/?igsh=MXJyOXh3dzluemR5ZQ== dose of reality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted July 4 2 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: African American Even in their youth, leftoids like him and Elizabeth Warren were fully aware that until five minutes ago, that was the golden ticket to get into the top selective schools. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,873 Posted July 5 12 hours ago, Voltaire said: Even in their youth, leftoids like him and Elizabeth Warren were fully aware that until five minutes ago, that was the golden ticket to get into the top selective schools. He didn’t get in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 763 Posted July 5 17 hours ago, Dizkneelande said: African American Guess it's okay to fake being black to get a leg up in the world again if you are a Dem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted July 5 Zohran Mamdani said identifying himself as African American would be ‘misleading’ on campaign trail — just months before Columbia bombshell By Published July 4, 2025, 9:37 a.m. ET Democratic socialist New York City mayoral front-runner Zohran Mamdani once admitted that identifying himself as African American would be “misleading” — despite him ticking that as his race on his Columbia University application. Newly resurfaced video captured the 33-year-old making the acknowledgment as he was sprayed with questions on the campaign trial about his heritage. “I’m an Indian, Ugandan, New Yorker,” Mamdani told black performance artist Crackhead Barney when she approached him on the street in April Asked if he would claim African American status, the socialist insisted: “No I would not.” “I’m proud to be Ugandan but I think that is misleading,” he said. The clip resurfaced and started spreading on social media soon after the New York Times reported on Thursday that he’d checked both “Asian” and “Black or African American” on his application to the Ivy League university when he was a high school senior in 2009. Mamdani, who was born in Uganda, told the outlet he doesn’t identify as either race but rather “an American who was born in Africa.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,873 Posted July 5 5 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said: Guess it's okay to fake being black to get a leg up in the world again if you are a Dem He didn’t get in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted July 5 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: He didn’t get in What was the intent? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites