What’s On The Menu For The Fourth

[Engorgeous George 2,314]

2 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

Aside from the smoked shoulder, the rest are pretty quick

 

been working a lot so not much prep time

Clearly you have more culinary skills than have I, but then most do.

[Bier Meister 1,698]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

Clearly you have more culinary skills than have I, but then most do.

I was a fine dining chef in vail and breck

larkspur

la tour

cascade

sonnenalp

lodge at Breckenridge 

briefly at opus in Littleton 

[Engorgeous George 2,314]

1 minute ago, Bier Meister said:

I was a fine dining chef in vail and breck

larkspur

la tour

cascade

sonnenalp

lodge at Breckenridge 

briefly at opus in Littleton 

Depending on the years it is possible I have eaten your food.

[Bier Meister 1,698]

I was in Colorado from 01-11

[Engorgeous George 2,314]

2 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

I was in Colorado from 01-11

Then I would say it is even likely I have eaten your food.

[jerryskids 6,751]

14 hours ago, Bier Meister said:

It’s coming together…

So:
Smoked Pork shoulder 
Hamachi sashimi 
Maque choux
Peach salad 
Ahi tartare
Mixed berry shortcake
Charcuterie board

It's going to be 103 here today (actually a cool snap!) so I don't think sashimi or ahi tartare would last very long outside...

Actually, that's a bummer about holidays like the 4th.  Our country builds them around when it is nice in most places, but it's hot AF here.

Anyway, I mentioned elsewhere that we're going to the DBacks/Royals game tonight and then fireworks after, so I'll get some unhealthy ballpark food.  It looks like they have some apple pie a la mode "nachos" tonight for the 4th, might try that.

During the day we'll just eat whatever, enjoy some pool time, maybe give my wife some sexy time, we'll see.

We're going up to the Michigan Yoop next Friday for a week; that's our unofficial 4th celebration.

[HellToupee 1,743]

14 hours ago, Bier Meister said:

Peach salad 

No idea what this is but it sounds good 

[Bier Meister 1,698]

13 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

No idea what this is but it sounds good 

Just a very quick one…

tomato, cucumber, shaved onion, grilled peaches, Apple cider vinegar, honey sugar, salt

[Bier Meister 1,698]

@HellToupee

you could also hit it with a balsamic glaze

[HellToupee 1,743]

2 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

@HellToupee

you could also hit it with a balsamic glaze

Getting peaches tomorrow and will give this a try Sunday 

 

thanks

[Bier Meister 1,698]

You bet. 
 

Don’t overcook the peaches. I like them firm enough to cut (I dice them for this).

[Nomad99 733]

19 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nice. We also go to a place down in Queensbury  called O’Tooles when the spots around the lake are hard to get into. It’s a good pub grub spot.  Enjoy. Love it up there. 

At the garrison now Actually staying in Queensbury....may try O'Tooles for a nightcap

[Frozenbeernuts 2,246]

Steaks. I let the wife pick them. She picked sirloin... She at least tried.

Maybe mushrooms tomorrow.

[MDC 7,329]

Looks like sissy swordfighting was on the July 4 menu for the expected Geeks.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,960]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

Looks like sissy swordfighting was on the July 4 menu for the expected Geeks.  

Where were you? Picking through all the trashed piled up on Frankford Avenue? 

You're white trash, move your Family out of that ghetto and take care of them like a real Man would. Your Family deserves to live like humans 

[MDC 7,329]

Surprised Max-O and his family didn’t do some grilling in a public park. Probably safer for the community that he spend the Fourth here. 

Quick twitch to violence.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,960]

23 minutes ago, MDC said:

Surprised Max-O and his family didn’t do some grilling in a public park. Probably safer for the community that he spend the Fourth here. 

Quick twitch to violence.  

Ahhh yes. Did you dress up like a Mummer, get drunk and pisss on Shunk? I could smell the Philly trash pile up from my house on Hilton Head Island. 

It must be horrible for you, stuck in a Liberal toilet where you can't afford to pay for trash removal,  clean water,  good schools or safe neighborhoods.  

[Alias Detective 1,396]

On 7/3/2025 at 7:08 PM, BeenHereBefore said:

Keeping it simple and grass feed burgers and Nathan's hot dogs, no sides.

I was informed marbling on beef comes from grains.  Grass fed is leaner but less tasty to me.  When I’m in the local stores grass fed beef has zero marbling so I tend to believe the info I was told.

[BeenHereBefore 1,514]

10 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

I was informed marbling on beef comes from grains.  Grass fed is leaner but less tasty to me.  When I’m in the local stores grass fed beef has zero marbling so I tend to believe the info I was told.

I think Grass Fed has way better taste then reg ground beef and Angus but that is my opinion. I don't buy reg ground beef for anything anymore. Well butcher shops ground beef taste pretty good but grocery store ground beef is garbage,

[Bier Meister 1,698]

11 hours ago, Alias Detective said:

I was informed marbling on beef comes from grains.  Grass fed is leaner but less tasty to me.  When I’m in the local stores grass fed beef has zero marbling so I tend to believe the info I was told.

Yes… grass fed is leaner (and has less marbling) than grain fed. 

1 hour ago, BeenHereBefore said:

I think Grass Fed has way better taste then reg ground beef and Angus but that is my opinion. I don't buy reg ground beef for anything anymore. Well butcher shops ground beef taste pretty good but grocery store ground beef is garbage,

They do taste different.  Whatever preference one has, fine. 
 

now- onto dry vs wet aging 

[BeenHereBefore 1,514]

1 hour ago, Bier Meister said:

Yes… grass fed is leaner (and has less marbling) than grain fed. 

They do taste different.  Whatever preference one has, fine. 
 

now- onto dry vs wet aging 

Well if you want to rub it dry or wet it, again all comes down to preference like you say.

[Alias Detective 1,396]

8 hours ago, Bier Meister said:

Yes… grass fed is leaner (and has less marbling) than grain fed. 

They do taste different.  Whatever preference one has, fine. 
 

now- onto dry vs wet aging 

Dry all the way.

[Engorgeous George 2,314]

I forgot about grilling peaches.  My wife had me do it a few years back.  I used some olive oil and brown sugar if I remember.  They were pretty tastee.  I have to bring that back into my rotation.  I do apples, pineapples and bananas but forgot about peaches.  In the end I am not much of a cook.

[Ron_Artest 1,391]

I never tried this before but read about it on reddit.

Pork butt.  I sliced it up it 3 parts, removed much of the extra fat and sinew, rubbed them all and smoked.  For the last 2 hours I put into an aluminum tray and covered.

The result was 6 pretty evenly cooked pork with loads of bark sitting in a perfect amount of melted fat.

Threw on some extra dry rub, didn't even need sauce.  People said it was the best pulled pork they ever had.

That and the wings were the hit.

[Bier Meister 1,698]

5 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I forgot about grilling peaches.  My wife had me do it a few years back.  I used some olive oil and brown sugar if I remember.  They were pretty tastee.  I have to bring that back into my rotation.  I do apples, pineapples and bananas but forgot about peaches.  In the end I am not much of a cook.

also, if you are using citrus for any dressings/sauces... grilling adds nice flavor to what you are doing

[Engorgeous George 2,314]

5 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

also, if you are using citrus for any dressings/sauces... grilling adds nice flavor to what you are doing

The nearest i ever got to citrus on the grill was a slice or two of lemon on the trout as they finish.  Sauces and dressing are not really in my repertoire.  Sometimes i will mix some marmalade or chili jelly into the BBQ sauce before hitting up the chicken, but that is about it.  I am pretty rudimentary.  Otherwise my sauces and dressings are straight from the store brought bottle.

[seafoam1 2,966]

On 7/3/2025 at 7:44 PM, Bier Meister said:

i now i'll be making maque choux, but don't now the rest yet

Oh boy, corn, onions and milk. 

You really fancy yourself don't you?

[Bier Meister 1,698]

11 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Oh boy, corn, onions and milk. 

You really fancy yourself don't you?

You’ll always be a narcissistic simpleton. Googling and YouTube isn’t enough to help you. 

 

you think you know food because you were a server at Applebees. Go away dolt.

[Bier Meister 1,698]

13 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Oh boy, corn, onions and milk. 

You really fancy yourself don't you?

And yes… I know that I was a cook and chef at excellent fine dining resorts and restaurants, which led me to what I am doing  now. I get paid well for my opinions on food and operations.

go back to your pathetic life, if you can find one. 

[seafoam1 2,966]

1 minute ago, Bier Meister said:

You’ll always be a narcissistic simpleton. Googling and YouTube isn’t enough to help you. 

 

you think you know food because you were a server at Applebees. Go away dolt.

Never worked at Applebees. And I know food so much better than you that it makes me laugh whenever you post anything. You are a simplistic moron. And not in the good way of making food. You are really caught between being simple, and being outright stupid. 

[Bier Meister 1,698]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

Never worked at Applebees. And I know food so much better than you that it makes me laugh whenever you post anything. You are a simplistic moron. And not in the good way of making food. You are really caught between being simple, and being outright stupid. 

More lies.  Have fun. I know you are a hack. 
 

you can’t even come back with anything original. Useless troll.

[seafoam1 2,966]

1 minute ago, Bier Meister said:

More lies.  Have fun. I know you are a hack. 
 

you can’t even come back with anything original. Useless troll.

maque choux.  This is special. 

[Bier Meister 1,698]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

maque choux.  This is special. 

It’s is an excellent regional side that works wonderfully for bbq. Not everyone outside of the south knows about it.

everything that I’ve read from you related to food can be googled. You are a fraud with everything you do. 
 

even your “facts” aren’t facts.
Your existence is trying to gaslight falsehoods

[seafoam1 2,966]

1 minute ago, Bier Meister said:

It’s is an excellent regional side that works wonderfully for bbq. Not everyone outside of the south knows about it.

everything that I’ve read from you related to food can be googled. You are a fraud with everything you do. 
 

even your “facts” aren’t facts.
Your existence is trying to gaslight falsehoods

Oh dear. You are delusional. The whole focking world knows corn dishes goes with bbq. 

But you think you are special because you google shlt and say you are an expert at making it. I in fact, can cook. This is awesome. Keep it coming rookie. 

[Gepetto 1,361]

26 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Oh dear. You are delusional. The whole focking world knows corn dishes goes with bbq. 

But you think you are special because you google shlt and say you are an expert at making it. I in fact, can cook. This is awesome. Keep it coming rookie. 

He was a chef at restaurants in Vail and Breckenridge and now paid for his knowledge and advice about food and dishes. I think you've picked a battle you have no chance to win.

[Bier Meister 1,698]

8 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

He was a chef at restaurants in Vail and Breckenridge and now paid for his knowledge and advice about food and dishes. I think you've picked a battle you have no chance to win.

Thank you. he really doesn't get to me because his name was literally "until you tilt." he only cares about trolling. i have never seen any real contribution from him. 

 

and... i believe we have people here that likely ordered food that  i have created (top restaurants in Vail).

[seafoam1 2,966]

28 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

He was a chef at restaurants in Vail and Breckenridge and now paid for his knowledge and advice about food and dishes. I think you've picked a battle you have no chance to win.

He doesn't show it here. 

[Strike 5,484]

7 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

He doesn't show it here. 

Stop it dude.  Bier is one of the better poster's here and has demonstrated his culinary capabilities numerous times here. 

[Engorgeous George 2,314]

LOL @ Seafoam thinking Bier's menu choices for a 4th of July BBQ indicate anything other than Bier prepping a meal for a diverse crowd to eat outdoors while leaving him time to enjoy the holiday himself.  The holiday is not a contest to show one's most advanced culinary skills, it is for welcoming and comfortable enjoyment of guests in an informal atmosphere.  Such a strange subject to decide to have a pissing match over.

 

I know this.  I am no cook, but i can serve up food which my guests enjoy as part of their now traditional holiday as they keep coming back year after year.  That is what the holiday is about, friends wanting to gather and the host being able to enjoy the day too.

 

Next week I am likely to make chicken sandwiches, breast, choice of grilled pickeled red pepper or pineapple on a bun; diced potatoes, onions, mushrooms green and orange peppers and some diced ham wrapped in foil, grilled corn on the cob soaked overnight in brine, orange slices topped with sweet vidalia onion slicees and a bit of ranch dressing and Schaum Torte for dessert.  I cheat on this meal and buy the potatoes already diced and the red peppers already pickled  Most of the prep I do long before guests arrive so i am throwing things together that have been prepped and i can enjoy the guests, play a bit of cornhole, have a beer or ten.  Basically simple has its place, and I am simple.  Oh, i also buy the ice cream though as a kid we made our own.  The adults thought it amusing to see us kept busy for a bit and out of their hair.

[Bier Meister 1,698]

Just now, Strike said:

Stop it dude.  Bier is one of the better poster's here and has demonstrated his culinary capabilities numerous times here. 

did you ever make it up from 01-11?

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