Charlie Kirk was just shot

[BrahmaBulls 984]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

I’m sorry he got shot but the world is a better place with CK not in it.

I would feel the same about you, to be honest.  Nothing personal of course.

[MDC 8,114]

30 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

I would feel the same about you, to be honest.  Nothing personal of course.

None taken! I don’t GAF what you think.  

[MDC 8,114]

46 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t really agree with this, because:

1) Conservatives are going to constantly use his murder to claim they’re being “hunted” even though they’re not

2) Even though he said a bunch of vile stuff, he always condemned actual violence, so conservatives are constantly going to claim “Charlie always condemned actual violence and ‘they’ killed him anyway!”  (Nevermind the fact that Robinson doesn’t even appear to have been very political)

Meh. They cry either way, who cares?

[TimHauck 3,437]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

Meh. They cry either way, who cares?

Good point 

[Reality 3,139]

3 hours ago, MDC said:

I’m sorry he got shot but the world is a better place with CK not in it.

For you, this tracks. Being the massive piece of shlt that you are, open debate, exposing the left wing agenda for the vile drivel that it is, probably greatly upsets you.

You didn't need to say it, anybody paying the slightest bit attention already knew this is how somebody like you would feel. I'm sure you secretly rooted for it considering how violent your kind has become. I would say the feeling of you not being 'in it' is mutual but, you're such an insignificant troll, what does it really matter if you exist or not? 

[Horseman 2,722]

1 minute ago, Reality said:

For you, this tracks. Being the massive piece of shlt that you are, open debate, exposing the left wing agenda for the vile drivel that it is, probably greatly upsets you.

You didn't need to say it, anybody paying the slightest bit attention already knew this is how somebody like you would feel. I'm sure you secretly rooted for it considering how violent your kind has become. I would say the feeling of you not being 'in it' is mutual but, you're such an insignificant troll, what does it really matter if you exist or not? 

[weepaws 3,427]

3 minutes ago, Reality said:

For you, this tracks. Being the massive piece of shlt that you are, open debate, exposing the left wing agenda for the vile drivel that it is, probably greatly upsets you.

You didn't need to say it, anybody paying the slightest bit attention already knew this is how somebody like you would feel. I'm sure you secretly rooted for it considering how violent your kind has become. I would say the feeling of you not being 'in it' is mutual but, you're such an insignificant troll, what does it really matter if you exist or not? 

AMEN.  

[MDC 8,114]

12 minutes ago, Reality said:

For you, this tracks. Being the massive piece of shlt that you are, open debate, exposing the left wing agenda for the vile drivel that it is, probably greatly upsets you.

You didn't need to say it, anybody paying the slightest bit attention already knew this is how somebody like you would feel. I'm sure you secretly rooted for it considering how violent your kind has become. I would say the feeling of you not being 'in it' is mutual but, you're such an insignificant troll, what does it really matter if you exist or not? 

Open debate = putting a professor “watch list” online so people you disagree with get harassed and death threats. 

What a great service Saint Charlie did for free speech.  

[TimHauck 3,437]

53 minutes ago, Reality said:

For you, this tracks. Being the massive piece of shlt that you are, open debate, exposing the left wing agenda for the vile drivel that it is, probably greatly upsets you.

You didn't need to say it, anybody paying the slightest bit attention already knew this is how somebody like you would feel. I'm sure you secretly rooted for it considering how violent your kind has become. I would say the feeling of you not being 'in it' is mutual but, you're such an insignificant troll, what does it really matter if you exist or not? 

I thought you were leaving?

[peenie 2,020]

You know, in all my years of living, I've never seen more outward hate towards people simply based on their political views. Republicans are on a war path, making insulting statements about liberals and Democrats, who, in my opinion are a more empathetic group.

You'd think that you all would be on top of the world and happy, but no, you're just a mean bitter sour angry hateful bunch. It's pervasive. What happened to being happy? Why are you all so hell bent on spending your days worrying about pedophiles and transexuals and satan and abortions and oppressing other people. You all obsess over crime; crimes that won't ever touch you. You live in safety, yet, stock up on guns for perceived threats that are only in your head. You all are miserable and worse, you all are truly scary; not because you are powerful but because you are fearful.

Whether it's here or Fox News or listening to our president, it's just misery and insults. It betrays a lack of love and joy in your lives.

[weepaws 3,427]

48 minutes ago, MDC said:

Open debate = putting a professor “watch list” online so people you disagree with get harassed and death threats. 

What a great service Saint Charlie did for free speech.  

So , they killed him, what did that do in support of free speech? 

[dogcows 1,264]

3 minutes ago, weepaws said:

So , they killed him, what did that do in support of free speech? 

There was no “‘they” - it was one man who did it.

[dogcows 1,264]

8 minutes ago, peenie said:

You know, in all my years of living, I've never seen more outward hate towards people simply based on their political views. Republicans are on a war path, making insulting statements about liberals and Democrats, who, in my opinion are a more empathetic group.

You'd think that you all would be on top of the world and happy, but no, you're just a mean bitter sour angry hateful bunch. It's pervasive. What happened to being happy? Why are you all so hell bent on spending your days worrying about pedophiles and transexuals and satan and abortions and oppressing other people. You all obsess over crime; crimes that won't ever touch you. You live in safety, yet, stock up on guns for perceived threats that are only in your head. You all are miserable and worse, you all are truly scary; not because you are powerful but because you are fearful.

Whether it's here or Fox News or listening to our president, it's just misery and insults. It betrays a lack of love and joy in your lives.

Trump is far more popular when out of office than when in office. Because the whole shtick is getting people mad at the establishment. His base only knows anger and grievance.

Then he becomes the establishment and makes everything worse. So it’s a double whammy. Can’t harness that anti-government anger and he also made things worse instead of better. Below 40% approval in the average of all polls right now.

[WhiteWonder 3,009]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t really agree with this, because:

1) Conservatives are going to constantly use his murder to claim they’re being “hunted” even though they’re not

2) Even though he said a bunch of vile stuff, he always condemned actual violence, so conservatives are constantly going to claim “Charlie always condemned actual violence and ‘they’ killed him anyway!”  (Nevermind the fact that Robinson doesn’t even appear to have been very political)

Wow. That’s just a bonkers statement by mdc. I missed that one. 
saying the world is a better place with someone not in it is crazy when that person did nothing to deserve a violent act against them. There’s nothing wrong with being opinionated. A wife losing a husband, kids losing a parent… none of that is offset because he now can’t say things you disagree with ‍

[WhiteWonder 3,009]

1 hour ago, peenie said:

You know, in all my years of living, I've never seen more outward hate towards people simply based on their political views. Republicans are on a war path, making insulting statements about liberals and Democrats, who, in my opinion are a more empathetic group.

You'd think that you all would be on top of the world and happy, but no, you're just a mean bitter sour angry hateful bunch. It's pervasive. What happened to being happy? Why are you all so hell bent on spending your days worrying about pedophiles and transexuals and satan and abortions and oppressing other people. You all obsess over crime; crimes that won't ever touch you. You live in safety, yet, stock up on guns for perceived threats that are only in your head. You all are miserable and worse, you all are truly scary; not because you are powerful but because you are fearful.

Whether it's here or Fox News or listening to our president, it's just misery and insults. It betrays a lack of love and joy in your lives.

I’ve actually wondered a few times that if you didn’t spend so much of your time looking for racism around every corner, do you think you’d be better off / further in life? 
im not saying racism doesn’t exist and im not saying we should all turn a blind eye toward it, obviously, just saying it seems to consume you and I wonder if you just lived your life without the constant thought of it (which yes, you can do)… would you be a happier person?

[dogcows 1,264]

2 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

I’ve actually wondered a few times that if you didn’t spend so much of your time looking for racism around every corner, do you think you’d be better off / further in life? 
im not saying racism doesn’t exist and im not saying we should all turn a blind eye toward it, obviously, just saying it seems to consume you and I wonder if you just lived your life without the constant thought of it (which yes, you can do)… would you be a happier person?

One need not look very hard for racism with Trump and JD. They trumpet it loudly. I would LOVE to live in a world where it was hard to find people saying racist things.

JD calling Minneapolis Mogadishu, Trump calling Somalians garbage, accusing Haitians of eating cats, etc. This isn’t coded hidden racism. It’s blatant and out in the open.

Please bring back the days when racists needed to use dog whistles. Because I am sick of seeing gross racist comments from our leaders every day.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,057]

Islamophobia is warranted. 

[peenie 2,020]

2 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

I’ve actually wondered a few times that if you didn’t spend so much of your time looking for racism around every corner, do you think you’d be better off / further in life? 
im not saying racism doesn’t exist and im not saying we should all turn a blind eye toward it, obviously, just saying it seems to consume you and I wonder if you just lived your life without the constant thought of it (which yes, you can do)… would you be a happier person?

Sir, what are you talking about? My post has nothing to do with racism. Where did I use the word racism? 

I’m talking about the way many Republicans talk to and about Democrats/liberals. Race has nothing to do with my statements. 

[peenie 2,020]

5 hours ago, Reality said:

For you, this tracks. Being the massive piece of shlt that you are, open debate, exposing the left wing agenda for the vile drivel that it is, probably greatly upsets you.

You didn't need to say it, anybody paying the slightest bit attention already knew this is how somebody like you would feel. I'm sure you secretly rooted for it considering how violent your kind has become. I would say the feeling of you not being 'in it' is mutual but, you're such an insignificant troll, what does it really matter if you exist or not? 

This post is what set me off. 

[WhiteWonder 3,009]

1 minute ago, peenie said:

Sir, what are you talking about? My post has nothing to do with racism. Where did I use the word racism? 

I’m talking about the way many Republicans talk to and about Democrats/liberals. Race has nothing to do with my statements. 

I was speaking to you generally. It wasn’t in direct response to your comment… well other than you were talking about never seeing more hate in your life… which sort of reminded me of all the race baiting you do around here 

[WhiteWonder 3,009]

46 minutes ago, dogcows said:

One need not look very hard for racism with Trump and JD. They trumpet it loudly. I would LOVE to live in a world where it was hard to find people saying racist things.

JD calling Minneapolis Mogadishu, Trump calling Somalians garbage, accusing Haitians of eating cats, etc. This isn’t coded hidden racism. It’s blatant and out in the open.

Please bring back the days when racists needed to use dog whistles. Because I am sick of seeing gross racist comments from our leaders every day.

Wasn’t talking to you.

Btw, If you don’t vote for me you aint black. 

[peenie 2,020]

12 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

I was speaking to you generally. It wasn’t in direct response to your comment… well other than you were talking about never seeing more hate in your life… which sort of reminded me of all the race baiting you do around here 

My own MAGA relative is black and does it too. This is NOT ABOUT RACE! 
I’m talking about the insults. The constant meanness and negative generalizing. You all act like liberals can’t have complex nuanced feelings about anything. 

[peenie 2,020]

6 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

Wasn’t talking to you.

Btw, If you don’t vote for me you aint black. 

But you quoted me, so you were talking to me. 

[WhiteWonder 3,009]

12 minutes ago, peenie said:

But you quoted me, so you were talking to me. 

Correct  

like I said you were not talking about race in what I quoted, it just reminded me of all the racial tension you have built up inside you. I meant to ask you in a different thread where you were directly talking about race. Sorry if it confused you. 

[Gepetto 1,482]

4 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

Wow. That’s just a bonkers statement by mdc. I missed that one. 
saying the world is a better place with someone not in it is crazy when that person did nothing to deserve a violent act against them. There’s nothing wrong with being opinionated. A wife losing a husband, kids losing a parent… none of that is offset because he now can’t say things you disagree with ‍

Too bad people with that kind of attitude can't go on trial just as the person that killed him. Less jail time, but still, it takes a cold and hateful soul to think like that.

[peenie 2,020]

1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said:

Correct  

like I said you were not talking about race in what I quoted, it just reminded me of all the racial tension you have built up inside you. I meant to ask you in a different thread where you were directly talking about race. Sorry if it confused you. 

Okay but when I bring up race it is in response to a post where someone else has made a racist statement! I don’t bring up race out of the blue. It’s usually only after 3 or 4 racist posts when I finally chime in. You all don’t even see the racism because it’s not directed at you, you don’t feel slighted. Don’t blame me because I make efforts to shut down racist remarks. Pointing out racism here doesn’t make ME racist. You all just don’t like it that I am not going to ignore your cruel comments. In real life whites bond by othering people. I’m not going to allow it, not here and not in real life. You’re not alone amongst yourselves, I’m here and never forget it.

 Lastly, it’s okay to discuss things revolved around race. Black people do dumb and evil things sometimes and it’s not racist to point it out or discuss it but things like saying Lamar Jackson is dumb and shouldn’t have graduated kindergarten…I’m gonna stop you right there. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,583]

5 hours ago, peenie said:

Sir, what are you talking about? My post has nothing to do with racism. Where did I use the word racism? 

I’m talking about the way many Republicans talk to and about Democrats/liberals. Race has nothing to do with my statements. 

Look in the mirror and spare me. The pendulum swings both ways

[Maximum Overkill 2,622]

3 hours ago, peenie said:

things like saying Lamar Jackson is dumb and shouldn’t have graduated kindergarten…I’m gonna stop you right there. 

He is dumb. Great football player but dumb as a rock. And many whites did bad on it too, they're also dumb. Saying Lamar is dumb is not racist, it's factual. Just like anyone else who scores that low. 

He did terrible on the Wonderlic. 

• Score: 13/50.
• Context: This score was significantly lower than other top QBs in his draft class (like Josh Allen's 37 or Baker Mayfield's 25).
• Debate: The low score sparked discussion about whether it reflected his intelligence or effort, with some suggesting a potential learning disability, while others pointed to Hall of Famers with similar scores.

[peenie 2,020]

2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

He is dumb. Great football player but dumb as a rock. And many whites did bad on it too, they're also dumb. Saying Lamar is dumb is not racist, it's factual. Just like anyone else who scores that low. 

He did terrible on the Wonderlic. 

• Score: 13/50.
• Context: This score was significantly lower than other top QBs in his draft class (like Josh Allen's 37 or Baker Mayfield's 25).
• Debate: The low score sparked discussion about whether it reflected his intelligence or effort, with some suggesting a potential learning disability, while others pointed to Hall of Famers with similar scores.

What’s a Wonderlic? I’m unfamiliar with it.

The Wonderlic Test (officially the Wonderlic Cognitive Ability Test) is 

a popular pre-employment screening tool that measures problem-solving skills, cognitive ability, and aptitude for a job, similar to a short IQ test, with 50 questions to be answered in 12 minutes, where the average score is around 21. It assesses a candidate's potential to learn and adapt by covering logic, math, verbal, and spatial reasoning, helping employers predict job performance and make fairer hiring decisions. 

[TimHauck 3,437]

8 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

Correct  

like I said you were not talking about race in what I quoted, it just reminded me of all the racial tension you have built up inside you. I meant to ask you in a different thread where you were directly talking about race. Sorry if it confused you. 

Man between @peenie and your HR team you must be really good at reading people’s minds 

[dogcows 1,264]

8 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

Wasn’t talking to you.

Btw, If you don’t vote for me you aint black. 

That’s a really weak whatabout. But it’s probably the best anybody could come up with. Biden’s administration wasn’t known for attracting attention.

There’s no comparison between the nasty rhetoric flying around from this president and his cabinet and any others in the last 50 years.

Maybe somebody could take away Donny’s phone so he stops sending hateful all-caps messages in the middle of the night? That would be a good start. Every holiday he sends the nastiest “greetings” possible.

I want the president to get positive things done and stop dividing people. Maybe fixing the economy is too hard for Donny, but he could at least try to shut off the firehose of hate and grievance.

[WhiteWonder 3,009]

31 minutes ago, dogcows said:

That’s a really weak whatabout. But it’s probably the best anybody could come up with. Biden’s administration wasn’t known for attracting attention.

There’s no comparison between the nasty rhetoric flying around from this president and his cabinet and any others in the last 50 years.

Maybe somebody could take away Donny’s phone so he stops sending hateful all-caps messages in the middle of the night? That would be a good start. Every holiday he sends the nastiest “greetings” possible.

I want the president to get positive things done and stop dividing people. Maybe fixing the economy is too hard for Donny, but he could at least try to shut off the firehose of hate and grievance.

Poor kids are just as bright and talented as White kids

 

Pretending past presidents were perfectly inclusive with no hints of racism or hateful sounding talk is, like a lot of things i've read in this thread, only something you want to believe because you think the left is nothing but virtuous. Which is laughable. The difference is, someone like Biden as a career politician, was a little more polished and better at hiding things.. I'd never claim Trump to be a polished politician... not even remotely. I'm not even a fan of him as a person, so I may not be your target audience. 

[nobody 2,939]

7 hours ago, peenie said:

Okay but when I bring up race it is in response to a post where someone else has made a racist statement! I don’t bring up race out of the blue. It’s usually only after 3 or 4 racist posts when I finally chime in. You all don’t even see the racism because it’s not directed at you, you don’t feel slighted. Don’t blame me because I make efforts to shut down racist remarks. Pointing out racism here doesn’t make ME racist. You all just don’t like it that I am not going to ignore your cruel comments. In real life whites bond by othering people. I’m not going to allow it, not here and not in real life. You’re not alone amongst yourselves, I’m here and never forget it.

 Lastly, it’s okay to discuss things revolved around race. Black people do dumb and evil things sometimes and it’s not racist to point it out or discuss it but things like saying Lamar Jackson is dumb and shouldn’t have graduated kindergarten…I’m gonna stop you right there. 

Oh look someone calling people racist like that means anything anymore.  

Aren't you the one that made up Lamar Jackson having a "regional dialect" when the dude grew up next to fort lauderdale and went to a rich high school just to try and claim people were racist? 

Your opinion on race has no standing.  You've proven you'll lie to protect the concept that a multimillionaire athlete is being oppressed. 

[peenie 2,020]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

Oh look someone calling people racist like that means anything anymore.  

Aren't you the one that made up Lamar Jackson having a "regional dialect" when the dude grew up next to fort lauderdale and went to a rich high school just to try and claim people were racist? 

Your opinion on race has no standing.  You've proven you'll lie to protect the concept that a multimillionaire athlete is being oppressed. 

Oppressed? Having a regional dialect, which he does have, no matter what high school he went to because wealthy schools often snatch up talent from other areas. You all were being racist by claiming the way he speaks means he’s dumb. Also, that Wonderlic test clearly doesn’t measure what is important because he ranks at the top of QBs.

[nobody 2,939]

7 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

Poor kids are just as bright and talented as White kids

 

Pretending past presidents were perfectly inclusive with no hints of racism or hateful sounding talk is, like a lot of things i've read in this thread, only something you want to believe because you think the left is nothing but virtuous. Which is laughable. The difference is, someone like Biden as a career politician, was a little more polished and better at hiding things.. I'd never claim Trump to be a polished politician... not even remotely. I'm not even a fan of him as a person, so I may not be your target audience. 

Lyndon Johnson whipped his dìck out in front of people.

Mofos used to kill each other in duels back in the day.

But since social media has allowed people to see that politicians are just as terrible as the hoi polloi, and trump is too dumb and arrogant to hide his feelings behind a facade like his counterparts in politics, now it's the worst it's ever been.

Like, nah.  You just seeing to for the first time and were too naive to know you were looking at a mask before.

[nobody 2,939]

5 minutes ago, peenie said:

Oppressed? Having a regional dialect, which he does have, no matter what high school he went to because wealthy schools often snatch up talent from other areas. You all were being racist by claiming the way he speaks means he’s dumb. Also, that Wonderlic test clearly doesn’t measure what is important because he ranks at the top of QBs.

Look at this liar.  Making up a regional dialect when he grew up in a city with no regional dialect.  All so she can claim calling him dumb is racist.  

Hey, dummy, this might work before we had the Internet and we can just look up stuff.  Pretty easy to see where he grew up.  Make up a new lie to protect your precious racism.

[dogcows 1,264]

15 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

Poor kids are just as bright and talented as White kids

 

Pretending past presidents were perfectly inclusive with no hints of racism or hateful sounding talk is, like a lot of things i've read in this thread, only something you want to believe because you think the left is nothing but virtuous. Which is laughable. The difference is, someone like Biden as a career politician, was a little more polished and better at hiding things.. I'd never claim Trump to be a polished politician... not even remotely. I'm not even a fan of him as a person, so I may not be your target audience. 

I didn’t say any of the above. I just want the president to stop spouting hateful rhetoric on the regular. This isn’t being a “polished politician” - it’s normal human decency. 

If anybody at your work published even ONE screed similar to Trump’s all-caps craziness, they’d be in the HR office the next morning suspended and maybe fired. It’s absolutely disgusting behavior; people need to stop pretending otherwise.

[Maximum Overkill 2,622]

2 hours ago, dogcows said:

I just want the president to stop spouting hateful rhetoric on the regular

Did you say that when Biden was making racist remarks after racist remarks, for years? 

It's funny how you didn't care then 

[dogcows 1,264]

27 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Did you say that when Biden was making racist remarks after racist remarks, for years? 

It's funny how you didn't care then 

Can you let me know what you have to smoke to think Trump's endless rants are the same as things said by "Sleepy Joe"?

Pick your battles; this is a really dumb one you're guaranteed to lose. Trump will say more hateful malarkey in a single speech than Joe said in his life.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,057]

34 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Can you let me know what you have to smoke to think Trump's endless rants are the same as things said by "Sleepy Joe"?

Pick your battles; this is a really dumb one you're guaranteed to lose. Trump will say more hateful malarkey in a single speech than Joe said in his life.

I guess you didn’t watch Bidens “red speech” to the nation?