5-Points 3,678 Posted yesterday at 02:49 AM 3 hours ago, jerryskids said: No, that sounds like hyperbole. Nah, it's a fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,107 Posted yesterday at 02:52 AM 2 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Nah, it's a fact. Ball’s in your court Jerry! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,678 Posted yesterday at 02:56 AM 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Ball’s in your court Jerry! The left has violent groups like BLM and antifa. The right had the TEA Party. Do the math. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,954 Posted yesterday at 03:01 AM 6 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Ball’s in your court Jerry! No it's not, I already said my opinion. I don't have the need to keep repeating it, unlike you moderates. I've already ignored your tags, I'm close to ignoring you entirely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,091 Posted yesterday at 03:04 AM 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: Bet your ass he did This is also false. And I’m surprised because normally you don’t make stuff up. What I wrote then, and still believe, is that anyone who voted for Trump was either unaware of his statements on race, willing to accept his statements on race, or agreed with his statements on race. One of the three- there are no other options. It wasn’t a particularly controversial statement IMO. I also acknowledged that there were many people who are not racist who don’t think Trump is a racist. However I didn’t understand how anyone paying attention didn’t think he was a racist. I still don’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,678 Posted yesterday at 03:07 AM 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This is also false. And I’m surprised because normally you don’t make stuff up. What I wrote then, and still believe, is that anyone who voted for Trump was either unaware of his statements on race, willing to accept his statements on race, or agreed with his statements on race. One of the three- there are no other options. It wasn’t a particularly controversial statement IMO. I also acknowledged that there were many people who are not racist who don’t think Trump is a racist. However I didn’t understand how anyone paying attention didn’t think he was a racist. I still don’t. Maybe because we are considering the actual definition of racism. Not the made up definition used today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 248 Posted yesterday at 03:08 AM 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This is also false. And I’m surprised because normally you don’t make stuff up. What I wrote then, and still believe, is that anyone who voted for Trump was either unaware of his statements on race, willing to accept his statements on race, or agreed with his statements on race. One of the three- there are no other options. It wasn’t a particularly controversial statement IMO. I also acknowledged that there were many people who are not racist who don’t think Trump is a racist. However I didn’t understand how anyone paying attention didn’t think he was a racist. I still don’t. You are an idiot then. I am fully aware of everything Trump has said and he is clearly not a racist. You are more of a racist than Trump. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,107 Posted yesterday at 03:11 AM 14 minutes ago, 5-Points said: The left has violent groups like BLM and antifa. The right had the TEA Party. Do the math. It doesn’t add up to 99.9% dummy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 704 Posted yesterday at 03:16 AM 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: It doesn’t add up to 99.9% dummy. so it's not the fact that the left is more political violent, it's the % that matters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,107 Posted yesterday at 03:19 AM 1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said: so it's not the fact that the left is more political violent, it's the % that matters Please prove the left is more. I’d put it right around 50/50 among those that actually have a political side. Of course many murderers don’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 704 Posted yesterday at 03:20 AM Just now, TimHauck said: Please prove the left is more. I’d put it right around 50/50 among those that actually have a political side. Of course many murderers don’t. Please prove they are not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,107 Posted yesterday at 03:21 AM 1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said: Please prove they are not You made the initial claim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 704 Posted yesterday at 03:22 AM Just now, TimHauck said: You made the initial claim Holy chit, the lies never end Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,107 Posted yesterday at 03:29 AM 6 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: Holy chit, the lies never end Well we’re in agreement we can’t count Kirk’s death as politically motivated, correct? So we can’t count that in any numbers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,669 Posted yesterday at 03:34 AM 26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: This is also false. And I’m surprised because normally you don’t make stuff up. What I wrote then, and still believe, is that anyone who voted for Trump was either unaware of his statements on race, willing to accept his statements on race, or agreed with his statements on race. One of the three- there are no other options. It wasn’t a particularly controversial statement IMO. I also acknowledged that there were many people who are not racist who don’t think Trump is a racist. However I didn’t understand how anyone paying attention didn’t think he was a racist. I still don’t. I bet you never said all Trump women are ugly too now that you got Joe Bryant to hide all your posts we regularly prove you wrong with right? The fact you had to do that tells everyone everything they need to know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,825 Posted yesterday at 03:37 AM 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: I bet you never said all Trump women are ugly too now that you got Joe Bryant to hide all your posts we regularly prove you wrong with right? The fact you had to do that tells everyone everything they need to know. He'll probably deny saying he understood why a middle aged man would drug and rape a 13 year old if the 13 year old looked "older" too. Ya know, since Joe deleted the PSF and all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,669 Posted yesterday at 03:41 AM 3 minutes ago, Strike said: He'll probably deny saying he understood why a middle aged man would drug and rape a 13 year old if the 13 year old looked "older" too. Ya know, since Joe deleted the PSF and all. That's ok. I pasted all those posts here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 291 Posted yesterday at 03:54 AM 1 hour ago, 5-Points said: The left has violent groups like BLM and antifa. The right had the TEA Party. Do the math. The right also has had neo-Nazis, the KKK, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Skinheads, etc. Antifa is a largely disorganized group that pops up every now and then to protest what they perceive as fascism, although they went way too far in throwing a wide net over Trump and MAGA. It actually started in Europe as a group to confront Hitler and fascism. You'll never believe this, but BLM was a mostly peaceful movement with violent outliers, much like those who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 would be considered violent outliers of conservatives. What many don't understand is that thuggish opportunists are always there to take advantage of volatile situations. Watts Riots. Rodney King Riots. It's the same old crap. Here is a list of celebrities who have been involved in BLM: https://www.harpersbazaar.com.sg/lifestyle/celebrities-gone-above-beyond-support-blm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,669 Posted yesterday at 03:57 AM No Rusty. Trump is a Neo-Nazi. Failed news guy strikes again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,693 Posted yesterday at 04:03 AM Rusty was calling Trump voters fascists not too long ago. Part of the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 291 Posted yesterday at 04:04 AM 5 minutes ago, Horseman said: No Rusty. Trump is a Neo-Nazi. Failed news guy strikes again. It is a fact that facism, Nazism, KKK, etc., are all far-right extremist things. MAGAs desperately try to redefine such things, but it is what it is. Socialism, communism, etc., reside on the far left. Research, education and knowledge are wonderful things instead of spending so much retirement time spewing ignorance on a low-rent, lightly trafficked message board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 291 Posted yesterday at 04:06 AM 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Rusty was calling Trump voters fascists not too long ago. Part of the problem. Actually, it was a very long time ago. I haven't advocated any violence on MAGAs, and a sickening number of the MAGAs here are wishing violence and death upon everyone to the left of themselves. Sick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,669 Posted yesterday at 04:06 AM The gimp shows up after fatty falls asleep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 291 Posted yesterday at 04:09 AM 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: The gimp shows up after fatty falls asleep. What the hell are you talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,669 Posted yesterday at 04:11 AM 4 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said: Actually, it was a very long time ago. I haven't advocated any violence on MAGAs, and a sickening number of the MAGAs here are wishing violence and death upon everyone to the left of themselves. Sick. Very long time ago like two months ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,669 Posted yesterday at 04:14 AM Too easy Can I get a ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 291 Posted yesterday at 04:15 AM 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: Very long time ago like two months ago? So? The Trump cultist mindset is disturbing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,825 Posted yesterday at 04:15 AM 4 minutes ago, Horseman said: Very long time ago like two months ago? Oh, one of his previous banned aliases. What a shock!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,420 Posted yesterday at 04:22 AM 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: This is also false. And I’m surprised because normally you don’t make stuff up. What I wrote then, and still believe, is that anyone who voted for Trump was either unaware of his statements on race, willing to accept his statements on race, or agreed with his statements on race. One of the three- there are no other options. It wasn’t a particularly controversial statement IMO. I also acknowledged that there were many people who are not racist who don’t think Trump is a racist. However I didn’t understand how anyone paying attention didn’t think he was a racist. I still don’t. I’m racist sexist and homophobic since I dont agree with black lesbian women Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,091 Posted yesterday at 04:33 AM 56 minutes ago, Horseman said: I bet you never said all Trump women are ugly too now that you got Joe Bryant to hide all your posts we regularly prove you wrong with right? The fact you had to do that tells everyone everything they need to know. Oh no I certainly posted that. I don’t think I said all though; I think I said most; and I was specifically referring to MAGA types. And of course I wasn’t referring to your “hot wife”; she told me she voted for Kamala anyhow. (Pillow talk.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,091 Posted yesterday at 04:34 AM 11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I’m racist sexist and homophobic since I dont agree with black lesbian women It depends on what you disagree with them about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,091 Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM 1 hour ago, Beaker15 said: You are an idiot then. I am fully aware of everything Trump has said and he is clearly not a racist. You are more of a racist than Trump. OK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 291 Posted yesterday at 04:58 AM 1 hour ago, Meglamaniac said: so it's not the fact that the left is more political violent, it's the % that matters Far-right hate groups are responsible for a much larger percentage of violence than the left. Just look at the righties on this forum calling for violence and death. Not seeing any non-MAGAs calling for more violence. I'll sit back and listen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 416 Posted yesterday at 05:15 AM 17 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said: Far-right hate groups are responsible for a much larger percentage of violence than the left. Just look at the righties on this forum calling for violence and death. Not seeing any non-MAGAs calling for more violence. I'll sit back and listen. It was all umbrella mans fault! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,021 Posted yesterday at 11:01 AM 7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: This is also false. And I’m surprised because normally you don’t make stuff up. What I wrote then, and still believe, is that anyone who voted for Trump was either unaware of his statements on race, willing to accept his statements on race, or agreed with his statements on race. One of the three- there are no other options. It wasn’t a particularly controversial statement IMO. I also acknowledged that there were many people who are not racist who don’t think Trump is a racist. However I didn’t understand how anyone paying attention didn’t think he was a racist. I still don’t. You specifically called people racists on the PSF. I was there, you included me in that. You cannot lie your way out of it. I remember it very well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 580 Posted yesterday at 11:03 AM 9 hours ago, Mark Davis said: Well, we will never agree. In my mind, one is merely giving quarter to the other. Both are anti capitalist and a danger. I will leave you though with the point that while there has been outrage over this on the right, there are no riots. There are no campuses under siege, no students hiding in fear, buildings being vandalized. Those actions are pretty exclusively one side when they have outrage or don't get their way. And it's not people like you, it's those people who want to unravel our society. They don't want to live in it as it is today. When you have that mindset, violence is easy and it's justified. Obviously an assassination is the pinnacle of bad acts, but the others can also be reprehensible and shows the mentality of those involved. Nominated for post of the month. Thank you for being a damn fine American. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,678 Posted yesterday at 11:21 AM 8 hours ago, Meglamaniac said: so it's not the fact that the left is more political violent, it's the % that matters I knew sho would get hung up on that number. He's nothing if not predictable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,107 Posted yesterday at 11:24 AM 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: I knew sho would get hung up on that number. He's nothing if not predictable. Sorry I don’t like liars like you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,693 Posted yesterday at 11:25 AM Just now, TimHauck said: Sorry I don’t like liars like you. Hauck preparing for another hard day at work. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,678 Posted yesterday at 11:25 AM 7 hours ago, Sandy Loam said: The right also has had neo-Nazis, the KKK, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Skinheads, etc. Antifa is a largely disorganized group that pops up every now and then to protest what they perceive as fascism, although they went way too far in throwing a wide net over Trump and MAGA. It actually started in Europe as a group to confront Hitler and fascism. You'll never believe this, but BLM was a mostly peaceful movement with violent outliers, much like those who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 would be considered violent outliers of conservatives. What many don't understand is that thuggish opportunists are always there to take advantage of volatile situations. Watts Riots. Rodney King Riots. It's the same old crap. Here is a list of celebrities who have been involved in BLM: https://www.harpersbazaar.com.sg/lifestyle/celebrities-gone-above-beyond-support-blm Weird how you never hear about those groups causing any trouble. Its almost as if they're nonviolent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites