US Federal Government Shutdown Thread

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,489]

Illegals don’t get healthcare derp derp derp retard 

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/california-to-spend-84-billion-this-year-on-health-care-for-illegal-aliens

[The Real timschochet 7,264]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Illegals don’t get healthcare derp derp derp retard 

https://budget.house.gov/press-release/california-to-spend-84-billion-this-year-on-health-care-for-illegal-aliens

I wish it were so. But it isn’t. And if you read that article closely you’ll realize that they’re making a deceptive argument. 

[TheNewGirl 1,611]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I wish it were so. But it isn’t. And if you read that article closely you’ll realize that they’re making a deceptive argument. 

You don't think illegals are getting free healthcare? 

 

[The Real timschochet 7,264]

Just now, TheNewGirl said:

You don't think illegals are getting free healthcare? 

 

I don’t think it’s part of the ACA subsidy extension which is the topic of this shutdown. 
 

All undocumented immigrants have access to ER, and in 8 states, California included, some undocumented immigrants have limited access to Medicaid. I wish all of them had full access but they don’t. 

[nobody 2,850]

I hope the red team doesn't cave.  We need to get over the premiums rising.  That what gutter told me to do when I first cried about them years and years ago so I'm sure he agrees.

We can all do what the illegals do and show up to the ER.

[Ron_Artest 2,028]

21 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Just want to point that the same CBO analysis shared by liberals when trying to oppose the OBBB said the bill would cause 1.4 million illegal aliens to lose healthcare coverage.

Carry on with the gaslighting now libs. 

Link?

[nobody 2,850]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think it’s part of the ACA subsidy extension which is the topic of this shutdown. 
 

All undocumented immigrants have access to ER, and in 8 states, California included, some undocumented immigrants have limited access to Medicaid. I wish all of them had full access but they don’t. 

So all you want is the subsidies?  You don't want the matching funds for Medicaid expansion?  Because that's how states are getting federal funds to pay for illegals healthcare.

[TheNewGirl 1,611]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think it’s part of the ACA subsidy extension which is the topic of this shutdown. 
 

All undocumented immigrants have access to ER, and in 8 states, California included, some undocumented immigrants have limited access to Medicaid. I wish all of them had full access but they don’t. 

Right now, CA illegals have full coverage, limited access doesn't start until 2026/2027 and it's ONLY going to limited access because it bankrupted the entire system in a year. 

[jonnyutah 508]

In 2024 California agreed to pay 52 million to the federal government for improper reimbursements of illegals. 

That is 52 million in pure profit because it is not happening at all...ever, as tim and ron have assured me. 

Thanks california! 

[jonnyutah 508]

46 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Link?

Lol. Do you ever try and look anything up you dumb lazy pile of crap? 

I will give you a clue... It was from the CBO addressing wyden, pallone, and neal. 

If you dont already know about this, how can you have such a strong opinion??? It is baffling how often this happens. I mean how could somebody that has posted 297 times in the last hour about this topic not know immediately how to find the CBO analysis of the OBBB? 

It is like you just get all your info from msnbc or something. 

[jonnyutah 508]

"If you go to the ER with the flu, that isnt healthcare!"

-tim

 

[jonnyutah 508]

"If you go to the ER after sneaking across the desert and have a mild case of dehydration that isnt healthcare"

-tim

[Ron_Artest 2,028]

4 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Lol. Do you ever try and look anything up you dumb lazy pile of crap? 

I will give you a clue... It was from the CBO addressing wyden, pallone, and neal. 

If you dont already know about this, how can you have such a strong opinion??? It is baffling how often this happens. I mean how could somebody that has posted 297 times in the last hour about this topic not know immediately how to find the CBO analysis of the OBBB? 

It is like you just get all your info from msnbc or something. 

It's a lie.  You're a liar.

[jonnyutah 508]

15 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

It's a lie.  You're a liar.

Lol. Would you like to learn how to google? Seems that's a skill an adult male in the US should have. 

[jonnyutah 508]

"I will once again form a very strong opinion on something that I know nothing about"

-Ron 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,489]

Republicans we would like to vote on the CR from the Biden administration 

Democrats no we need money for illegals. Err undocumented. Err unknown citizenry 

[nobody 2,850]

34 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Lol. Do you ever try and look anything up you dumb lazy pile of crap? 

I will give you a clue... It was from the CBO addressing wyden, pallone, and neal. 

If you dont already know about this, how can you have such a strong opinion??? It is baffling how often this happens. I mean how could somebody that has posted 297 times in the last hour about this topic not know immediately how to find the CBO analysis of the OBBB? 

It is like you just get all your info from msnbc or something. 

To be fair, he says stuff just to say stuff.  

Dude said Republicans are responsible for the shutdown because they don't want to change the voting rules that he said he doesn't advocate they do.  

I'm going to say that again.  He's blaming them for not doing something he says he doesn't advocate them doing.  

I thought the concept of TDS was a bit.  This dude is down bad.

[nobody 2,850]

14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Republicans we would like to vote on the CR from the Biden administration 

Democrats no we need money for illegals. Err undocumented. Err unknown citizenry 

I've never seen one side so thoroughly run through on an issue.  No wonder gutter is the only one still trying to die on the hill.  He likes getting those cheeks clapped I guess.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,903]

I remember going to the ER and illegals would be there packing the place for non emergency care. The problem we have is a lot of low information no life experience voters with big mouths. 

[Ron_Artest 2,028]

25 minutes ago, nobody said:

I've never seen one side so thoroughly run through on an issue.  No wonder gutter is the only one still trying to die on the hill.  He likes getting those cheeks clapped I guess.

Republicans can vote to end the shutdown right?  Agree and your post above is destroyed.  Disagree and you're a liar.  Which is it?

[BrahmaBulls 893]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Republicans can vote to end the shutdown right?  Agree and your post above is destroyed.  Disagree and you're a liar.  Which is it?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,489]

15 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Republicans can vote to end the shutdown right?  Agree and your post above is destroyed.  Disagree and you're a liar.  Which is it?

No. They can’t. Are you always a retard?  60 votes is needed. How many senate seats do the republicans have???

[The Real timschochet 7,264]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

No. They can’t. Are you always a retard?  60 votes is needed. How many senate seats do the republicans have???

Do you ever bother to read any exchange of posts you’re not directly involved in? 

[zsasz 382]

2 hours ago, nobody said:

I hope the red team doesn't cave.  We need to get over the premiums rising.  That what gutter told me to do when I first cried about them years and years ago so I'm sure he agrees.

We can all do what the illegals do and show up to the ER.

LOL!....You think they're going to go down!?  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,903]

33 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Republicans can vote to end the shutdown right?  Agree and your post above is destroyed.  Disagree and you're a liar.  Which is it?

You (and real Tim) seem to be up on this issue. Can you tell me what is the income threshold for the subsidies? Max amount of income? 

[Ron_Artest 2,028]

47 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

No. They can’t. Are you always a retard?  60 votes is needed. How many senate seats do the republicans have???

@nobody you want to explain it to him since you thought this too at one point before me and @Ray_T schooled you on this?

[jonnyutah 508]

54 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

56 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

No. They can’t. Are you always a retard?  60 votes is needed. How many senate seats do the republicans have???

Do you ever bother to read any exchange of posts you’re not directly involved in? 

Hahahahaha. You just did this a couple days ago. You thought you had a gotcha and thought I was talking about democrats using the nuclear option right now, without a majority, rather than when democrats held the advantage and didnt make them permanent.

 

[TimHauck 3,221]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Link?

Page 7

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2025-06/Wyden-Pallone-Neal_Letter_6-4-25.pdf

[nobody 2,850]

29 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

@nobody you want to explain it to him since you thought this too at one point before me and @Ray_T schooled you on this?

Yes, I'll explain your terrible position.

@RaiderHaters Revenge, GutterRon's position is that because the republicans can invoke something they call the nuclear option to change the voting rules, they can force through the spending bill, but to be clear, GutterRon doesn't advocate they should do this. 

He is just saying they can, and because they theoretically can - but shouldn't in his eyes - it's their fault we are shutdown right now instead of the Blue Team which didn't want to stay open under current Biden admin spending which was the offer on the table. 

@Ray_T and I would have 100% thought GutterRon was a chick with logic like this, but I know he's a male unless he's been catfishing for over 15 or so years. 

[TimHauck 3,221]

On 10/5/2025 at 11:49 PM, jonnyutah said:

The states will feel the brunt of it. 

If you allow more illegals to hide and provide sanctuary, your state will spend more on illegals and their healthcare. 

Maybe after enough spending, those states will cooperate with the federal govt. 

 

Fair.  But isn’t part of the OBBB also to penalize states that use their own funding for illegals?  Do you agree with that?

[nobody 2,850]

1 hour ago, zsasz said:

LOL!....You think they're going to go down!?  

When I complained about ObamaCare focking me over on my insurance, Gutter told me to get over it.  I did.  

I'm sure gutter agrees that everyone should just get over it now as well.

[jonnyutah 508]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Fair.  But isn’t part of the OBBB also to penalize states that use their own funding for illegals?  Do you agree with that?

Of course I agree. We should cut every penny we can to states that provide anything to illegals. 

[jonnyutah 508]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Page 7

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2025-06/Wyden-Pallone-Neal_Letter_6-4-25.pdf

"Ohhhhh that analysis! I knew about that for sure when I made my super strong statements. Also let me now reject that."

-ron

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,489]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Do you ever bother to read any exchange of posts you’re not directly involved in? 

Nope. Cause it’s all the same nonsense. I don’t care to read thru all of your and gutter nonsense. When I see something I respond. 
 

fwiw according to below. I am against the nuclear option. Always have been. So I do not agree that republicans should just do that 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,903]

41 minutes ago, nobody said:

When I complained about ObamaCare focking me over on my insurance, Gutter told me to get over it.  I did.  

I'm sure gutter agrees that everyone should just get over it now as well.

Of course he does. He’s a level headed gentleman with his wits about him.