MDC 8,077 Posted Monday at 11:11 PM 17 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said: Based on Reiner’s comments after Kirk’s death, I doubt he’d have said anything as immature, petty, and disgusting as Trump’s comments today in your hypothetical example. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,522 Posted Monday at 11:13 PM 7 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said: Yea All in The Family alone is awesome. Him and Carrol O'Connor had such great chemistry. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Monday at 11:13 PM Just now, Voltaire said: Him and Carrol O'Connor had such great chemistry. Yes!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,192 Posted Monday at 11:20 PM 7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: That was great, thanks for posting. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Monday at 11:23 PM 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: That was great, thanks for posting. That use to tear me up anyways being a fan of the show and yea hits harder now, at least they are together again now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,192 Posted Monday at 11:30 PM I agree with The Free Press on Trump being an unpresidential buffoon here: Quote Mr. President, Don’t Mock the Dead Americans have become inured to Trump’s social media taunts. Yet he still finds ways to shock us on occasion. Given Rob Reiner’s contributions to American culture—from his days as a sitcom star on All in the Family to his direction of iconic films such as When Harry Met Sally and A Few Good Men—it was entirely appropriate for the president of the United States to weigh in on his horrifying death over the weekend. Sadly, the way President Donald Trump has done so is beyond the pale. His Monday post on Truth Social is worth reading in full, in part because many Republican lawmakers will spend the next few days claiming not to have seen it. This is what we know. Reiner and his wife, Michelle Singer Reiner, were found stabbed to death on Sunday. Their troubled son, 32-year-old Nick Reiner, has been arrested for their murder. There is no evidence that the slaying had anything to do with Trump. But the president has a penchant for making everything about himself, and so he has here, casting their death as somehow the result of their opposition to him and his politics. We’re living through an era of political violence, something we take very seriously. We’ve published numerous essays on how Americans can and must come together and solve our differences the way they are meant to be solved: civil debate, the democratic process, a respectful airing of differences. Those values are at the heart of everything we do. In his 50-plus years as a top American entertainer, Reiner—like most major Hollywood figures—was a liberal. And like a solid percentage of the country, he did not care for Trump. But there is no indication this was an act of political violence, and it is obscene for the president to try to make it into one. Many Americans have come to expect the president to be petulant and self-centered. We’ve become inured to his wild social media ramblings. Yet he still finds ways to shock us on occasion; his statement on Reiner is exceptionally beneath the office he holds. Rob Reiner was not a political figure. He was merely an outspoken supporter of liberal causes, which of course was his right. After a horrific weekend that included a lethal shooting at Brown University, the killing of three Americans by ISIS in Syria, and the slaughter of 16 people celebrating Hanukkah on a beach in Australia, the leader of the free world should be looking to unite Americans and condemn bigotry and violence wherever they take place in the world. Instead, he is kicking the corpse of someone who made movies that brought Americans together. Much has been written about how social media brings out the worst in people. We saw this after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, which was celebrated by many accounts on Bluesky, a left-wing alternative to X. But the overwhelming majority of Democratic lawmakers hit the right note, condemning Kirk’s murder and calling for peace. Now, after this awful weekend, Trump has once again lowered the bar for what we can expect from the president. His accomplishments are real, particularly in the realm of foreign policy and in securing the southern border. But there’s a casual, unthinking cruelty that sometimes runs through him. Today, that dark side of his personality was on full display. As mentioned earlier, Reiner’s breakout role was on All in the Family, the iconic 1970s sitcom where he played the liberal foil to his father-in-law, Archie Bunker. The show and its creators skewed left, but Archie always got to make his case, and became something of a conservative icon in the process. In the end, the point of the show was that they were all family, and they did all love each other, no matter the political differences they had. Their disagreements became heated and Archie let the insults fly—“Meathead,” he called his son-in-law when they argued politics. Still, the show recognized and respected their basic decency as Americans, and as human beings. It’s a sentiment we could use more of today, one in keeping with our country’s floundering civic religion and sense of boundaries. Instead, we’re treated to the shameful spectacle of the president of the United States mocking a man who had just been savagely murdered alongside his wife. Trump almost certainly won’t walk it back, and the usual suspects will find some rhetorical contortions with which to defend this outburst. But there is no point in anyone defending this. It should be widely opposed—particularly by those who otherwise support him. Please don't ask me to defend it; I have no intention to remotely try. Interestingly, just this weekend I as telling my wife that while I like a lot of Trump's policies, I'm tiring of his unwillingness to be presidential, to be a leader to all, particularly with his Truth Social posts. She wasn't as sure. But after this ridiculous post, she's agreeing with me. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,848 Posted Monday at 11:56 PM Trump trying to solidify his status as the president that says the most stupid, idiotic things possible? Just unbelievable… 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 12:17 AM 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I agree with The Free Press on Trump being an unpresidential buffoon here: Please don't ask me to defend it; I have no intention to remotely try. Interestingly, just this weekend I as telling my wife that while I like a lot of Trump's policies, I'm tiring of his unwillingness to be presidential, to be a leader to all, particularly with his Truth Social posts. She wasn't as sure. But after this ridiculous post, she's agreeing with me. Totally agree and voted for him all 3 times but crap like this he says rubs me the wrong way and not cool. I'd still vote for him but this is why I'm not a die hard Trumper and never have been. I actually had Trumps Autograph picture years ago that my dad bought and gave it away to a friend that like him. I was like if he runs in a few years I'll vote for him but not a huge fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 361 Posted Tuesday at 12:25 AM Yeah, Trump's post was absolute trash. He squandered a moment that could have served him well, and even most of his base cringed. I hope he realizes and comes back with something much more dignified. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 12:29 AM 3 minutes ago, naomi said: Yeah, Trump's post was absolute trash. He squandered a moment that could have served him well, and even most of his base cringed. I hope he realizes and comes back with something much more dignified. Agreed and well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,469 Posted Tuesday at 12:41 AM I'm disgusted by Trump's comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,544 Posted Tuesday at 01:08 AM I appreciate all of the conservatives here who have condemned Trump’s post. I firmly believe that most Americans, whether liberal or conservative, are basically decent people. We need to call out the ones who aren’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,499 Posted Tuesday at 01:11 AM 1 hour ago, MDC said: Based on Reiner’s comments after Kirk’s death, I doubt he’d have said anything as immature, petty, and disgusting as I would. Agreed. But still, he could have been.as lonely and stupid as you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,429 Posted Tuesday at 02:09 AM 1 hour ago, BeenHereBefore said: Totally agree and voted for him all 3 times but crap like this he says rubs me the wrong way and not cool. I'd still vote for him And this is why we're focked. People like you will always cuck for Trump. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,429 Posted Tuesday at 02:10 AM 1 hour ago, naomi said: Yeah, Trump's post was absolute trash. He squandered a moment that could have served him well, and even most of his base cringed. I hope he realizes and comes back with something much more dignified. Hope that he will act like a normal person. Another example of why we're focked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 02:12 AM 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: And this is why we're focked. People like you will always cuck for Trump. Yea Biden was awesome and you people are freaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,429 Posted Tuesday at 02:13 AM Just now, BeenHereBefore said: Yea Biden was awesome and you people are freaks. Biden was not awesome. I'm not a freak I'm a pretty average dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 02:15 AM Just now, Ron_Artest said: Biden was not awesome. I'm not a freak I'm a pretty average dude. Shut the F and if you voted for him or Harris you are. I'm not Trumper like I said but he is way better than what the Dems offer. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,429 Posted Tuesday at 02:38 AM 22 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said: Shut the F and if you voted for him or Harris you are. I'm not Trumper like I said but he is way better than what the Dems offer. As I was saying, this is why we're focked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 02:51 AM 12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: As I was saying, this is why we're focked. Go to bed Rusty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,030 Posted Tuesday at 03:11 AM What did trump say? that is how nonpolitical I am Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,017 Posted Tuesday at 03:22 AM 11 minutes ago, edjr said: What did trump say? that is how nonpolitical I am He said meathead is dead because he hated Trump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 03:24 AM 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He said meathead is dead because he hated Trump Kinda yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,030 Posted Tuesday at 03:26 AM 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He said meathead is dead because he hated Trump the left would have said far worse had/if/when trump died, would have been thousands, millions, not 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 03:27 AM 2 minutes ago, edjr said: the left would have said far worse had/if/when trump died Ohh my can you imagine but still not cool of Trump at all. Like Naomi said Trump had a great chance to make people on the other side like him but he choice to be a ahole and also pee off people that voted for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,030 Posted Tuesday at 03:30 AM 2 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said: Ohh my can you imagine but still not cool of Trump at all. I don’t see death like most people. I am tired of people dying and reading the lies in their obituaries. Everyone was perfect and loved by all and would do anything for anyone. focking spare me. tell the truth for once 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,499 Posted Tuesday at 03:31 AM 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: And this is why we're focked. People like you will always cuck for Trump. So you are "focked"? Sucks for you. Not me. All is good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 03:33 AM 2 minutes ago, edjr said: I don’t see death like most people. I am tired of people dying and reading the lies in their obituaries. Everyone was perfect and loved by all and would do anything for anyone. focking spare me. tell the truth for once Yea I get that but we should not be like them like when Charlie Kirk was assassinated. We need to be better! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,030 Posted Tuesday at 03:34 AM Just now, BeenHereBefore said: Yea I get that but we should not be like them like when Charlie Kirk was assassinated. We need to be better! just a life. idiots will idiot 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 03:35 AM Just now, edjr said: just a life. idiots will idiot Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,544 Posted Tuesday at 03:40 AM 4 minutes ago, edjr said: I don’t see death like most people. I am tired of people dying and reading the lies in their obituaries. Everyone was perfect and loved by all and would do anything for anyone. focking spare me. tell the truth for once OK let’s tell the truth. By all accounts Rob Reiner was an incredibly kind, decent guy, loved by nearly everyone in Hollywood, liberals and conservatives alike. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him insult anyone. His response to Charlie Kirk’s murder was all class. His opposition to Trump was, so far as I know, based on policy differences. In the political realm, Reiner’s greatest accomplishment was getting gay marriage approved by the Supreme Court, which I think most people approve of these days. Per your comment about what the left would have said if Trump had been murdered, no doubt you’re right about some. But I can almost guarantee you that Rob Reiner would not have been one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Fantasy 148 Posted Tuesday at 03:47 AM 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: OK let’s tell the truth. By all accounts Rob Reiner was an incredibly kind, decent guy, loved by nearly everyone in Hollywood, liberals and conservatives alike. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him insult anyone. His response to Charlie Kirk’s murder was all class. His opposition to Trump was, so far as I know, based on policy differences. In the political realm, Reiner’s greatest accomplishment was getting gay marriage approved by the Supreme Court, which I think most people approve of these days. Per your comment about what the left would have said if Trump had been murdered, no doubt you’re right about some. But I can almost guarantee you that Rob Reiner would not have been one of them. Let’s just ignore Reiner’s comments the day after Rush died. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 03:53 AM Lets just stop the political Narrative and could you imagine to be stabbed to death from your own son and knowing he is going to kill you ? Horrible if you liked Rob or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,544 Posted Tuesday at 03:55 AM 6 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said: Let’s just ignore Reiner’s comments the day after Rush died. No let’s not. Based on the article you linked he said that Rush lied about climate change (an accurate statement.) Not an insult, a comment about policy. Hardly objectionable IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 269 Posted Tuesday at 04:21 AM 34 minutes ago, Mr Fantasy said: Let’s just ignore Reiner’s comments the day after Rush died. What he said about Limbaugh has been overblown, and he said classy things in the aftermath of the Kirk killing. Rush died of health failure, not an act of terrible violence. Regardless of whatever Reiner said about Rush, it is mental illness to justify the nasty, classless things Trump said about a brutally murdered Reiner. Stupid comparison. You are human filth for trying to defend Trump here. Jack White nailed it nicely. https://postimg.cc/WFy0FyG6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 04:27 AM 4 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: What he said about Limbaugh has been overblown, and he said classy things in the aftermath of the Kirk killing. Rush died of health failure, not an act of terrible violence. Regardless of whatever Reiner said about Rush, it is mental illness to justify the nasty, classless things Trump said about a brutally murdered Reiner. Stupid comparison. You are human filth for trying to defend Trump here. Jack White nailed it nicely. https://postimg.cc/WFy0FyG6 You still up and I thought I told you to go to bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 269 Posted Tuesday at 05:04 AM 36 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said: You still up and I thought I told you to go to bed. Smell my panties. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 05:05 AM Just now, FrancieFootball said: Smell my panties. Lol you made me laugh on that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,669 Posted Tuesday at 09:57 AM James Woods, who has been vocally pro-Donald Trump, is speaking out against the “distasteful” comments made about Rob Reiner. Woods, who starred in Reiner’s “Ghosts of Mississippi” in 1996, opened up about his late friend during an appearance on Fox News on Monday night, revealing that he was at a low point and landing that job turned it around. “Rob literally saved my career and really put me back on track in a way that was so important and rewarding in my life. He really fought for me when a studio didn’t want me in a movie,” Woods said. “I went from really being basically out of a job to getting an Academy Award nomination, and I give all the credit to Rob.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites