The Kansas <s>City</s> Chiefs

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RIP Arrowhead

[Hardcore troubadour 16,060]

 Bears moving out of Chicago? Can’t blame them. It’s just not safe there. 

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This sucks. NFL is slowly killing its tradition.

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The Kansas Chiefs has a nice ring to it.  

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

The Kansas Chiefs has a nice ring to it.  

Technically, they'll be in Kansas City, KS, while before they were in Raytown, MO

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Gardner Minshew diagnosed with a bone bruise. He does not have a torn ACL. He will be out for the remainder of this season. No surgery.

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So Missouri has lost the Cardinals, Rams and Chiefs. 

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Awesome! Smart of them to get this started now. 5 more years in Arrowhead based on the 2031 planned start to playing in the new stadium.

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42 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So Missouri has lost the Cardinals, Rams and Chiefs. 

About to eliminate income tax.   Yay.

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2 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

About to eliminate income tax.   Yay.

By eliminating income.

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This sucks. NFL is slowly killing its tradition.

Bills mafia is focked going forward. New stadium = no poor people 

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Just now, edjr said:

Bills mafia is focked going forward. New stadium = no poor people 

Yeah, I know. Exactly, another example.

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6 minutes ago, edjr said:

Bills mafia is focked going forward. New stadium = no poor people 

New stadium has fewer seats, so tickets will definitely be more expensive.

But Rich Stadium is so old that OJ played there so it had to happen sometime. Would have been nice to keep 80K seats…

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I don’t think teams should try to build stadiums with more seats for paid US NFL fans , the NFL in their wicked way to protect players from harm, and to build a better relationship with fans, will continue to move more games, and soon playoff , games and even the Super Bowl to other countries.  .time to stop supporting this.  

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That hurts. I’m a bears fan but arrowhead is by far The loudest place I’ve ever been to a game of any kind and it’s not particularly close. That’ll be legitimately sad if they dome up some nonsense down there.

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1 hour ago, cyclone24 said:

That hurts. I’m a bears fan but arrowhead is by far The loudest place I’ve ever been to a game of any kind and it’s not particularly close. That’ll be legitimately sad if they dome up some nonsense down there.

That's exactly what they are doing.  Final 4's, a SuperBowl, events week after week...

I at least hope it's an open air dome so we can play football in football weather.  At the same time, if I can afford to keep my seats with a PSL structure, the cold weather month games will be easier to sell

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20 hours ago, dogcows said:

New stadium has fewer seats, so tickets will definitely be more expensive.

But Rich Stadium is so old that OJ played there so it had to happen sometime. Would have been nice to keep 80K seats…

He also played at Arrowhead.  That stadium (Arrowhead) was completed (1972), AFTER Veterans Stadium (Philly - 1971), Three Rivers (Pittsburgh - 1970), and Riverfront (Cincinnati - 1970), were completed.  All 3 of them have been gone for over 20 years.

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18 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

That's exactly what they are doing.  Final 4's, a SuperBowl, events week after week...

I at least hope it's an open air dome so we can play football in football weather.  At the same time, if I can afford to keep my seats with a PSL structure, the cold weather month games will be easier to sell

If I were a gambling man, I'd bet against that.

 

Overall though, what's the feeling from locals about it?

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6 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

If I were a gambling man, I'd bet against that.

 

Overall though, what's the feeling from locals about it?

I feel like I must offer perspective before I weigh in.

I am nearing a half century in age, and have lived my entire life in the same town in MO albeit a freshman year of college where I lived in KS

When Rusty and the other guys were in town most of us stayed downtown in MO, but Rusty got an airbnb close so he wouldn't have to pay downtown prices.  I had to drive him there a couple times and it was a 10 minute drive but it was in Kansas.  You really didn't have any idea because there wasn't any signage it's just the city runs that close together in parts of the area.

Where the stadium is now it's about a 15 minute drive from downtown, and it's really just a major parking lot with nothing around it in an industrial area so all there is, is the stadiums.  That's all you go there for and people love it because you drink your own beer and eat your own food right by your car before you go to the game.  Then you drive home after the game.

When the Truman Sprots Complex (TSC) was developed in the 60's, the vision was that hotel and development would begin popping up all around it.  It never happened.

There's been a ton of debate about how stadiums are funded locally.  Right now Jackson County MO sales tax funds ongoing maintenance and upkeep at the Truman Sports Complex.  The Chiefs only option was to renovate arrowhead, build new at TSC, or build in Kansas where they are headed.  They wanted to bring a Super Bowl (trophy named after Lamar) to KC.  The hotels and entertainment district they want to create for Final 4's and other major events could really only be developed at the land they are moving to.  But passing a sales tax wasn't going to happen so the State of Kansas passed STAR bonds which finance the project by using future sales tax revenue to pay for it.  That, and they are going to charge a sh1t ton for us season ticket holders with PSL's.

The Royals are also done at TSC, they also want an entertainment district.  It will be interesting to see how Missouri responds, or if they lose the Royals also to Kansas out in that same area.  

It doesn't effect me much.  It's a 15-minute shorter, much easier drive where they are headed.  And I like the idea of getting some pretty kickass events at the venue, especially if that gives me privilege of purchase if I were to own a PSL.  Sucks that Missouri can't get their sh1t together and do something.  I hope they can placate the Royals with a site downtown.  We'll see.  

When all is said and done, still my team and probably going to be a kickass venue.  But Arrowhead will most definitely always hold a special place in my heart.

 

 

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Met Life sucks 

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10 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

When all is said and done, still my team and probably going to be a kickass venue

So gaay. Is it so Mahomes' little hands won't get cold in Winter or so Kelce's old brittle bones won't hurt anymore? 

I hate that they are building a dome, proving that the franchise is a fraud. 

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On 12/22/2025 at 6:54 PM, edjr said:

Bills mafia is focked going forward. New stadium = no poor people 

The poor people are the ones being taxed to build the stadium.

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On 12/22/2025 at 6:39 PM, cyclone24 said:

That hurts. I’m a bears fan but arrowhead is by far The loudest place I’ve ever been to a game of any kind and it’s not particularly close. That’ll be legitimately sad if they dome up some nonsense down there.

I've only been to Arrowhead once, a long time ago. I was on the field when they honored Derrick Thomas, so 2000 I think? It was definitely loud.

But c'mon up to Minneapolis sometime. We'll show you louder.

Might wanna wait til the Vikes are a little better, though.

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49 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I've only been to Arrowhead once, a long time ago. I was on the field when they honored Derrick Thomas, so 2000 I think? It was definitely loud.

But c'mon up to Minneapolis sometime. We'll show you louder.

Might wanna wait til the Vikes are a little better, though.

You can only count when you played outdoors on a college campus between the metrodome and US Bank

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Just now, cmh6476 said:

You can only count when you played outdoors on a college campus between the metrodome and US Bank

Noise is noise, bruh. You'll be singing a different tune when your beautiful new dome rises above the Kansas prairie and the Chief's faithful marvel at how much the dB's go UP!

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4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Noise is noise, bruh. You'll be singing a different tune when your beautiful new dome rises above the Kansas prairie and the Chief's faithful marvel at how much the dB's go UP!

Meh, I don't know.   It'll be different.   It'll never be cold.   It'll never be rainy or snowy.   And it'll probably be more expensive which at times can lead to a less rowdy crowd.   I'm sure it'll be fine and I'll love it, but it'll be different. 

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You should see how Met Life rises out of the swamps of Jersey.  It’s majestic.  

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Just now, cmh6476 said:

Meh, I don't know.   It'll be different.   It'll never be cold.   It'll never be rainy or snowy.   And it'll probably be more expensive which at times can lead to a less rowdy crowd.   I'm sure it'll be fine and I'll love it, but it'll be different. 

It'll definitely be different. I'm not old enough to have gone to outdoor Vikings games in the 70s, but their dominance at home in cold conditions is more myth than truth. I also remember attending a late season game in the Metrodome in the 90s where it was about -10° with high winds; I felt like we would die walking to the stadium. We were all damn glad to go indoors. Then my buddy locked us out of his car and we stood outside for an hour waiting for someone to come open it up and were even happier we hadn't been outside for the three+ hours prior.

It does get colder here than down there, but not THAT much. When you're at a game in late Dec/ early Jan at the new place, with windchills well below zero, and you're sweating because you wore a Chiefs sweater instead of t-shirt, you'll love that dome.

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2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

It'll definitely be different. I'm not old enough to have gone to outdoor Vikings games in the 70s, but their dominance at home in cold conditions is more myth than truth. I also remember attending a late season game in the Metrodome in the 90s where it was about -10° with high winds; I felt like we would die walking to the stadium. We were all damn glad to go indoors. Then my buddy locked us out of his car and we stood outside for an hour waiting for someone to come open it up and were even happier we hadn't been outside for the three+ hours prior.

It does get colder here than down there, but not THAT much. When you're at a game in late Dec/ early Jan at the new place, with windchills well below zero, and you're sweating because you wore a Chiefs sweater instead of t-shirt, you'll love that dome.

cool story. 

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Met Life is home to two NFL Teams. It opened in 2010. Without looking, tell me how many playoff games it has hosted?