jerryskids 7,247 Posted yesterday at 03:22 AM 1 minute ago, FrancieFootball said: Kind of hard to claim it assault when her forward movement started after having up to three bullets in her brain. What's this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,707 Posted yesterday at 03:25 AM Live Riots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 340 Posted yesterday at 03:26 AM Just now, jerryskids said: What's this? Look at the video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 340 Posted yesterday at 03:27 AM 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: Live Riots Our pots are banging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 340 Posted yesterday at 03:33 AM MAGA: This is domestic terrorism: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1182417273978931 This is not: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,037 Posted yesterday at 03:34 AM Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,707 Posted yesterday at 03:34 AM 7 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: Our pots are banging. That's your ballz clapping when you walk, Ron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,171 Posted yesterday at 03:38 AM Have they arrested her accomplice yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,355 Posted yesterday at 03:41 AM No surprise here “The wife of Renee Nicole Good—the 37-year-old Minneapolis shooting victim who attempted to run over an ICE officer—appears to have been outside the vehicle filming as her wife blocked ICE vehicles. She is seen wearing a flannel shirt, walking around the vehicle and recording ICE officers. She later runs back to the vehicle to check on Renee. Afterward, she tells a nearby man, “That’s my wife.” When he asks if she knows any of her wife’s relatives she could call, she responds, “We're new here. I don't have people... I can’t even breathe right now.” Why was she outside the vehicle filming while her wife was blocking ICE officers?” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,171 Posted yesterday at 03:43 AM 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: No surprise here “The wife of Renee Nicole Good—the 37-year-old Minneapolis shooting victim who attempted to run over an ICE officer—appears to have been outside the vehicle filming as her wife blocked ICE vehicles. She is seen wearing a flannel shirt, walking around the vehicle and recording ICE officers. She later runs back to the vehicle to check on Renee. Afterward, she tells a nearby man, “That’s my wife.” When he asks if she knows any of her wife’s relatives she could call, she responds, “We're new here. I don't have people... I can’t even breathe right now.” Why was she outside the vehicle filming while her wife was blocking ICE officers?” Who was paying them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,857 Posted yesterday at 03:44 AM 11 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: Look at the video. A video that I saw shows her turning her wheels from the left, to straight, her front wheels slipping as she stepped on the gas, with the agent standing in front of her vehicle. I can't link to it because I saw it on a podcast, but if I were that agent in front of her vehicle, I would think she was trying to hit me. In that scenario, when someone is perceived to be using the vehicle as a weapon, it's legal, and appropriate, to fire in self defense. It's very unfortunate but that woman could've prevented the entire interaction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,355 Posted yesterday at 03:46 AM 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Who was paying them? Great question. There is a witness that there saying the deceased was in the lead car. Not just an everyday lezbo mom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,394 Posted yesterday at 03:47 AM 30 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I'm sipping a Jefferson Reserve cask strength bourbon so I'm not feeling like mathing right now... but didn't you recently argue in defense of the 80+ percent of Minnesotan Somalis on some sort of welfare because they were recent immigrants/asylum seekers? Enjoy your drink, I can check my own math. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 441 Posted yesterday at 03:59 AM 19 minutes ago, Gladiators said: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That's pretty much it. I do feel awful, specifically for her child. There's a lot of this we don't know so I don't want to jump to too many conclusions but the video does show her impeding ICE agents and not complying with their commands. It's just never a good idea to do that. Whether Trump or Obama is President, whether you are in Minneapolis or a rural Arkansas county, it just has the potential to end very very badly. You can feel bad that it happened, awful for the child now without their mom, but when you put yourself into that spot it's always possible things can go bad. Whether the shooting is deemed justified or criminal, she put herself into a spot things could go very badly, and they did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 340 Posted yesterday at 04:04 AM 13 minutes ago, 5-Points said: A video that I saw shows her turning her wheels from the left, to straight, her front wheels slipping as she stepped on the gas, with the agent standing in front of her vehicle. I can't link to it because I saw it on a podcast, but if I were that agent in front of her vehicle, I would think she was trying to hit me. In that scenario, when someone is perceived to be using the vehicle as a weapon, it's legal, and appropriate, to fire in self defense. It's very unfortunate but that woman could've prevented the entire interaction. The agent obviously has improper training and had no business being in front of the vehicle. Does it make a lick of sense to you that one in a volatile situation step in front of a vehicle? Did he think his body would somehow stop the vehicle from getting away? ICE agents are police officers. They don't have the same authority as a local cop in a traffic issue, which this was. This woman is being portrayed as a domestic terrorist. Seriously? She was a scared person caught in a weird situation with masked idiots with guns clawing at her doors, and she made like a three-point turn to try to leave there, with a dumbass ICE agent putting himself in front of her vehicle. MAGA is going to lose this one, but perhaps this victim whose young child lost a mother will serve as what this nation will rally around to throw the MAGA scum out of power and remove Trump as president. This is what MAGA maggots voted for, which is terrible. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flipper 73 Posted yesterday at 04:06 AM 1 minute ago, FrancieFootball said: The agent obviously has improper training and had no business being in front of the vehicle. Are you a trained ICE agent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,171 Posted yesterday at 04:06 AM She put herself, on purpose, in the middle of a law enforcement operation. She didn’t “find” herself in anything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,394 Posted yesterday at 04:08 AM Just now, FrancieFootball said: The agent obviously has improper training and had no business being in front of the vehicle. Does it make a lick of sense to you that one in a volatile situation step in front of a vehicle? Did he think his body would somehow stop the vehicle from getting away? ICE agents are police officers. They don't have the same authority as a local cop in a traffic issue, which this was. This woman is being portrayed as a domestic terrorist. Seriously? She was a scared person caught in a weird situation with masked idiots with guns clawing at her doors, and she made like a three-point turn to try to leave there, with a dumbass ICE agent putting himself in front of her vehicle. MAGA is going to lose this one, but perhaps this victim whose young child lost a mother will serve as what this nation will rally around to throw the MAGA scum out of power and remove Trump as president. This is what MAGA maggots voted for, which is terrible. In a sane society, this would be universally seen as a tragedy. The agency would immediately apologize, suspend the officers involved, and have an investigation. Then use it to teach others how NOT to handle things. Instead they falsely accuse an innocent woman of domestic terrorism. And let their agents know that they can kill whoever they want with impunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,857 Posted yesterday at 04:10 AM 1 minute ago, FrancieFootball said: The agent obviously has improper training and had no business being in front of the vehicle. Does it make a lick of sense to you that one in a volatile situation step in front of a vehicle? Did he think his body would somehow stop the vehicle from getting away? ICE agents are police officers. They don't have the same authority as a local cop in a traffic issue, which this was. This woman is being portrayed as a domestic terrorist. Seriously? She was a scared person caught in a weird situation with masked idiots with guns clawing at her doors, and she made like a three-point turn to try to leave there, with a dumbass ICE agent putting himself in front of her vehicle. MAGA is going to lose this one, but perhaps this victim whose young child lost a mother will serve as what this nation will rally around to throw the MAGA scum out of power and remove Trump as president. This is what MAGA maggots voted for, which is terrible. Or, just hear me out, when uniformed officers, with blue lights flashing, approach your vehicle, and give lawful commands, maybe comply. You just might make it home that night. Or, aim your 3,000 lb vehicle at one of them, step on the gas and don't make it home that night. Its your choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 340 Posted yesterday at 04:10 AM 1 minute ago, dogcows said: In a sane society, this would be universally seen as a tragedy. The agency would immediately apologize, suspend the officers involved, and have an investigation. Then use it to teach others how NOT to handle things. Instead they falsely accuse an innocent woman of domestic terrorism. And let their agents know that they can kill whoever they want with impunity. Yep, and I'm more than ready to fight against this tyrannical regime if necessary. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 340 Posted yesterday at 04:13 AM Just now, 5-Points said: Or, just hear me out, when uniformed officers, with blue lights flashing, approach your vehicle, and give lawful commands, maybe comply. You just might make it home that night. Or, aim your 3,000 lb vehicle at one of them, step on the gas and don't make it home that night. Its your choice. Not what happened. Look at the video. Don't compare cowboy ICE azzholes to local police. Not even remotely the same in myriad ways. This was a murder carried out by a d!ckhead pumped up on authority. c 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,857 Posted yesterday at 04:15 AM 8 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: The agent obviously has improper training and had no business being in front of the vehicle. Does it make a lick of sense to you that one in a volatile situation step in front of a vehicle? Did he think his body would somehow stop the vehicle from getting away? ICE agents are police officers. They don't have the same authority as a local cop in a traffic issue, which this was. This woman is being portrayed as a domestic terrorist. Seriously? She was a scared person caught in a weird situation with masked idiots with guns clawing at her doors, and she made like a three-point turn to try to leave there, with a dumbass ICE agent putting himself in front of her vehicle. MAGA is going to lose this one, but perhaps this victim whose young child lost a mother will serve as what this nation will rally around to throw the MAGA scum out of power and remove Trump as president. This is what MAGA maggots voted for, which is terrible. Its common for law enforcement officers to position themselves in front of vehicles to dissuade law abiding people from fleeing. She tried to flee. It sucks, but she got what she got because she tried to flee with a LEO standing in front of her vehicle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,394 Posted yesterday at 04:16 AM Can’t take credit for this, but they made a great point: Quote People like to claim that politicians don't care about ordinary people. That's not true in the US, where the president himself will take time out of his day to lie about the circumstances of your death when one of his agents murders you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,857 Posted yesterday at 04:17 AM 2 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: Not what happened. Look at the video. Don't compare cowboy ICE azzholes to local police. Not even remotely the same in myriad ways. This was a murder carried out by a d!ckhead pumped up on authority. c I told you what I saw in the video I saw. She turned her wheels toward him and excellerated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,171 Posted yesterday at 04:25 AM In a sane country, you don’t open up your borders and bring in millions and millions of unvetted immigrants that will be dependent on tax payers to provide for them, just so your party can get some easy votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,511 Posted yesterday at 04:25 AM 1 hour ago, Strike said: Just out of curiosity, question for you libs. Would your opinion of this incident change If it turned out that the agent who shot the "victim" had been rammed and dragged by a protestor previously? Do you have video of the previous incident? Could be that the guy is just dumb and doesn’t know how to move out of the way of moving cars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,511 Posted yesterday at 04:29 AM 5 hours ago, MDC said: It’s clear as day from the video she tried to drive off when the Ice agent grabbed the door to her car, not trying to run someone over. I can’t say whether she hit the agent or if he was justified in firing. All I can say for sure is that Noem is a complete embarrassment. This is the correct take. If the car made contact with the agent which it appears it did, then he was most likely justified legally. But anyone who thinks she was “trying to run him over” and not simply trying to flee needs their head examined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,857 Posted yesterday at 04:29 AM 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: In a sane country, you don’t open up your borders and bring in millions and millions of unvetted immigrants that will be dependent on tax payers to provide for them, just so your party can get some easy votes. We left sanity behind a long time ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,394 Posted yesterday at 04:29 AM 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Do you have video of the previous incident? Could be that the guy is just dumb and doesn’t know how to move out of the way of moving cars. Why does Strike think this supports his position? Kristi Noem said this agent has a history of jumping in front of cars. He’s clearly terrible at his job and a danger to the public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,394 Posted yesterday at 04:30 AM Just now, 5-Points said: We left sanity behind a long time ago. Agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,171 Posted yesterday at 04:32 AM The Minnesota Police and Peace officers association has condemned the dangerous rhetoric from political leaders against law enforcement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,109 Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM 6 minutes ago, TimHauck said: This is the correct take. If the car made contact with the agent which it appears it did, then he was most likely justified legally. But anyone who thinks she was “trying to run him over” and not simply trying to flee needs their head examined. So he would be less dead if the reason she ran him over was she was trying to flee instead of her actually trying to kill him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,511 Posted yesterday at 04:36 AM Was it confirmed how long it took to render first aid? Multiple witnesses reported a bystander that identified themself as a doctor was not permitted to help and in the main bystander video law enforcement appears to take their time in checking on her. It also appears that they may have hurried the shooter away from the scene which isn’t a good look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,857 Posted yesterday at 04:38 AM 4 minutes ago, dogcows said: Agreed We threw it out with the baby, the bathwater, common sense and the capacity for independent thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,511 Posted yesterday at 04:39 AM Just now, Strike said: So he would be less dead if the reason she ran him over was she was trying to flee instead of her actually trying to kill him? If you see a car backing up and about to pull away, the correct response is to move , not shoot into the car. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shock & Awe 2 Posted yesterday at 04:40 AM 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: If you see a car backing up and about to pull away, the correct response is to move , not shoot into the car. Exactly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,857 Posted yesterday at 04:40 AM 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Was it confirmed how long it took to render first aid? Multiple witnesses reported a bystander that identified themself as a doctor was not permitted to help and in the main bystander video law enforcement appears to take their time in checking on her. It also appears that they may have hurried the shooter away from the scene which isn’t a good look. Removing the officer involved in the investigation is procedural. They question him/her away from the incident while the investigation takes place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,501 Posted yesterday at 04:41 AM 7 hours ago, cyclone24 said: https://x.com/0hour1/status/2008984935173108144?s=46 can anybody tell me where he’s standing? Gosh that looks almost like about the angle A bullet would go through a window. Funny how that works. Holy sh1t. Don't post a still frame of a video that doesn't accurately portray the situation. We're not stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,511 Posted yesterday at 04:42 AM 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: Removing the officer involved from the investigation is procedural. They question him/her away from the incident while the investigation takes place. Bonus points for making sure no one can identify him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,857 Posted yesterday at 04:43 AM 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: If you see a car backing up and about to pull away, the correct response is to move , not shoot into the car. If you see a LEO standing in front of your car, the correct response is to put the car in park and await further instructions, not turn your wheels toward him and step on the gas. HTH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites