Woman shot in the face during 'ICE-related shooting' in Minneapolis

[Ron_Artest 2,684]

4 hours ago, nobody said:

The more I see the slow motion video, the more I think this crazy chick might've actually been trying to run this dude over.

1. She hits the gas hard enough to spin out the wheels.  I know it's on ice, but there is someone right in front of you, why are you hitting the gas at all?
2. I originally thought she tried turning the wheel to the right of the officer, but in slow mo, it looks like she pointed the wheel directly at him.

Clean shoot.

If she wanted to hit him, she would have hit him.  He was to her left, she turned her wheels to the right.  She  goes in reverse, when you want to hit someone you go forward.

Nothing you said is true.

He pulls his gun while he is not in front of the car anymore and she is in reverse.

This is a wanna be tough guy, untrained, took an ice job to try and be a badass, felt the power and wanted to punish the woman for annoying him.

[Ron_Artest 2,684]

The admin lied immediately.

Noem said ice was pushing their car out of the snow - lie.

She said the woman attacked them - lie.

Trump said she's a paid agitator, ran the cop over, surprised he's alive - all lies.

They said she's a terrorist - lie.

Why would the admin rip all these lies off before they know anything about the incident.

[Ron_Artest 2,684]

No well trained real cop would do this.  Turdcore knows this but he won't admit it.

[TimHauck 3,516]

10 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

The admin lied immediately.

Noem said ice was pushing their car out of the snow - lie.

She said the woman attacked them - lie.

Trump said she's a paid agitator, ran the cop over, surprised he's alive - all lies.

They said she's a terrorist - lie.

Why would the admin rip all these lies off before they know anything about the incident.

I think it’s possible the car to the right of the Pilot was the one stuck in the snow.   But if all they were doing was attending to a car stuck in the snow that proves they were not doing a specific operation.

[Ron_Artest 2,684]

26 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I think it’s possible the car to the right of the Pilot was the one stuck in the snow.   But if all they were doing was attending to a car stuck in the snow that proves they were not doing a specific operation.

Really?  That thin coating of ice is stuck in the snow?  Have you ever driven in the snow? Stop lying.

Also the ice agents were clearly seen exiting a vehicle that drove up with no snow.  They were not pushing anything.  Lie.

[Ron_Artest 2,684]

There is surely more to come.

Another video

https://www.reddit.com/r/ICE_Raids/s/67nKjxQ484

You can see Renee 's wife talking to her murderer, they both are filming, while the murderer walks around the car and in front of it.  Why would he do that?  What are they saying.  Both of those videos will be released at some point.

It's gonna come out that this guy is a pure ass hole and he was escalating the situation.  Not even close to self defense. He was looking for a fight.  We all know these types of people in real life.

 

[Tree of Knowledge 2,296]

When will the LGBTQ+ community wake up and realize the Democrat Party looks at them at best as Star Trek redshirts and at worst as Kamikaze pilots?

 

[TimHauck 3,516]

27 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Really?  That thin coating of ice is stuck in the snow?  Have you ever driven in the snow? Stop lying.

Also the ice agents were clearly seen exiting a vehicle that drove up with no snow.  They were not pushing anything.  Lie.

I think @Engorgeous George mentioned in the other thread that anyone with any experience driving in the snow shouldn’t have gotten stuck there and I’d agree, but it’s possible that driver had no experience driving in the snow.  Most of the road was clear, but there was some snow off to the side.

Maybe the car next to the Pilot wasn’t the one stuck in the snow, but in general that seems like a dumb thing for them to lie about although I know they’ve lied about dumb things before.  If they wanted to lie they could have said she stopped them from capturing an illegal alien rapist or something.

 

[Ron_Artest 2,684]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I think @Engorgeous George mentioned in the other thread that anyone with any experience driving in the snow shouldn’t have gotten stuck there and I’d agree, but it’s possible that driver had no experience driving in the snow.  Most of the road was clear, but there was some snow off to the side.

Maybe the car next to the Pilot wasn’t the one stuck in the snow, but in general that seems like a dumb thing for them to lie about although I know they’ve lied about dumb things before.  If they wanted to lie they could have said she stopped them from capturing an illegal alien rapist or something.

 

No it's not possible, because there is not enough snow to get stuck in.  You can put a monkey in that car and tell it what peddle to push and it would drive out.

They are dumb people, they lie about dumb sh1t, and other dumb people believe everything they say.  They know they can get away with it.

They told us that they couldn't turn the plane around, that they couldn't return Garcia, that he drank a margarita, that he's a trafficker, etc.  people believe it.  They know their supporters are dumb.

They told us Jan 6 was peaceful, that they just took some selfies.  We have the video.  We can see with our own eyes.  They still believe the lies.

[Sean Mooney 2,086]

8 hours ago, dogcows said:

In a sane society, this would be universally seen as a tragedy. The agency would immediately apologize, suspend the officers involved, and have an investigation. Then use it to teach others how NOT to handle things.

Instead they falsely accuse an innocent woman of domestic terrorism. And let their agents know that they can kill whoever they want with impunity.

Not to mention they let the guy leave the scene.

8 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Or, just hear me out, when uniformed officers, with blue lights flashing, approach your vehicle, and give lawful commands, maybe comply. You just might make it home that night. 

Or, aim your 3,000 lb vehicle at one of them, step on the gas and don't make it home that night. Its your choice. 

 

The first guy out of the car says to the woman "Move your car." The second says "Get out of your car." She was complying with one of the commands given to her. 

[Sean Mooney 2,086]

7 hours ago, Strike said:

He wasn't punishing her.  He was neutralizing a threat.

He's a puzzy with a gun. Stop defending this - you sound like an idiot and are ignoring things that are demonstrably clear in the video. 

[seafoam1 3,567]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

He's a puzzy with a gun. Stop defending this - you sound like an idiot and are ignoring things that are demonstrably clear in the video. 

You're a babysitter with a diaper. 

[Reality 3,162]

White liberal women no longer feel safe attempting to impede ICE while they are performing their federal duty.

Pour one out fellas.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,176]

3 minutes ago, Reality said:

White liberal women no longer feel safe attempting to impede ICE while they are performing their federal duty.

Pour one out fellas.

 

Did she watch the video of the woman being stabbed to death on the train in NC? 

[supermike80 2,174]

This may be the event that pushed TDS Ron over the edge.  Guy is more unhinged here than he has really been to this point.   Please be careful interacting with him.  

[MDC 8,212]

It would be nice to have a sane POTUS do what any stable ordinary person would do and urge restraint while an investigation uncovers the facts vs. immediately throwing gasoline on the fire.

[HellToupee 2,356]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

It would be nice to have a sane POTUS do what any stable ordinary person would do and urge restraint while an investigation uncovers the facts vs. immediately throwing gasoline on the fire.

Now do mayor & governor 

[Tree of Knowledge 2,296]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

It would be nice to have a sane POTUS do what any stable ordinary person would do and urge restraint while an investigation uncovers the facts vs. immediately throwing gasoline on the fire.

Meh.  Most normal people are fed up with these losers and want them rounded up.   That was on the ballot just 14 months ago.  

[Hardcore troubadour 16,176]

Her wife said it was her fault. Agree. 

[supermike80 2,174]

5 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Now do mayor & governor 

Right.    Super hypocritical here.    I guess only POTUS is supposed to show restraint.   Not any other elected official

[cyclone24 1,960]

8 hours ago, Gepetto said:

Holy sh1t. Don't post a still frame of a video that doesn't accurately portray the situation. We're not stupid.

Well, first of all yes you are. Don’t sell yourself short. The point was this narrative that there wasn’t anybody near the front of the car and when you pair that with the other videos and the fact you have a clean bullet hole through the front. Yeah no cords convicting this guy.
 

She shouldn't have been there. Terrible parent.

[Sean Mooney 2,086]

So after watching the 3-4 different angles of the shooting in the videos posted in here, a few statements that I think can be accepted as truths.

1.) The woman is somewhat blocking the road with her car. Not enough that people can't drive around her (as one car does at the very beginning of the 4+ minute video) but still in the way of traffic on what looks like a suburban street.

2.) Two cops/ICE agents get out of a truck that pulls up to the scene. One yells for her to "Move the car." One yells "Get out of the car." So we now have conflicting commands.

3.) A third cop enters the scene coming from behind the car, walking around the passenger side of the vehicle and then crossing the front of the car while the woman is engaged in talking with the other two cops. (the Reddit link above)

4.) The woman backs up her car, then turns the wheels to the right and attempts to leave the scene. (Why does she turn the wheels to the right? I'll assume to be clear of the officers to the left and she probably sees the cop crossing the front of her car as she backs up.)

5.) Her car does seemingly brush his hip as he is going around the front bumper on the driver's side. The blame on that will probably fall to whatever side you want it to fall too. I'm curious as to standard practice of a police officer in that situation. I'm assuming the procedure is to stay to the passenger side window and not literally stand in front of the car.

6.) When she passes the cop and he is clear to the front and left of the car he draws his gun and fires 3 times at point blank range (I mean can we agree 3 is excessive from that distance?) The car then speeds down the street (obviously she is most likely dead or on the cusp of death at that point) and crashes into parked cars with other pedestrians nearby.

7.) The first two cops immediately go back to the truck after the shooting happens and are calling stuff in and look to be trying to get away from this.

8.) The cop who shot her goes to the vehicle then turns around and makes a signal seeming to either indicate "let people through" or "let's roll."

9.) The person filming tries to get close as someone is trying to give aid and the cops back everyone away from the vehicle and then never really attempt to do anything. I mean she's probably already dead at that point but you still try to do something.

10.) The person who shot her is allowed to leave the scene by officers.

____________________________________________________________________

Look if nothing else- can we at least agree- regardless of political leaning- this is a colossal breakdown of procedure on a number of fronts by multiple people? Can we also agree this kind of stuff shouldn't happen here in America? Can we also agree that we have political leaders- both parties- fomenting this stuff either prior to the incident or in the wake of it?

[Ron_Artest 2,684]

13 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

This may be the event that pushed TDS Ron over the edge.  Guy is more unhinged here than he has really been to this point.   Please be careful interacting with him.  

RDS

[Reality 3,162]

8 minutes ago, MDC said:

It would be nice to have a sane POTUS do what any stable ordinary person would do and urge restraint while an investigation uncovers the facts vs. immediately throwing gasoline on the fire.

It's would be nice if Democrats took responsibility for the horrible rhetoric that caused this issue to begin with. It would also be nice if Democrats took responsibility for their horrible stewardship of the border that also caused this.

Demonizing federal agents simply performing their duty is exactly why we are here. 

[Sean Mooney 2,086]

8 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Now do mayor & governor 

 

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Right.    Super hypocritical here.    I guess only POTUS is supposed to show restraint.   Not any other elected official

They should all show restraint. But the old saying is the thing "rots from the head down." The President sets the tone, and then that tone is either matched or countered by state and local officials. They all should know better- Frey all the way up to Trump. 

[MDC 8,212]

Remember when somebody would get shot and the POTUS would say something about cooler heads prevailing and waiting til the facts are out like a normal human, vs acting like a mentally ill lowlife cretin?

[Sean Mooney 2,086]

1 minute ago, Reality said:

It's would be nice if Democrats took responsibility for the horrible rhetoric that caused this issue to begin with. It would also be nice if Democrats took responsibility for their horrible stewardship of the border that also caused this.

Demonizing federal agents simply performing their duty is exactly why we are here. 

It'd be nice if you'd stop being a puzzy and leave the board like you said you were doing. 

[Tree of Knowledge 2,296]

Can all of these anti-ICE loons on here go out today and try to block law enforcement officers and first responders from doing their jobs and report back to us the results?

[Ron_Artest 2,684]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So after watching the 3-4 different angles of the shooting in the videos posted in here, a few statements that I think can be accepted as truths.

1.) The woman is somewhat blocking the road with her car. Not enough that people can't drive around her (as one car does at the very beginning of the 4+ minute video) but still in the way of traffic on what looks like a suburban street.

2.) Two cops/ICE agents get out of a truck that pulls up to the scene. One yells for her to "Move the car." One yells "Get out of the car." So we now have conflicting commands.

3.) A third cop enters the scene coming from behind the car, walking around the passenger side of the vehicle and then crossing the front of the car while the woman is engaged in talking with the other two cops. (the Reddit link above)

4.) The woman backs up her car, then turns the wheels to the right and attempts to leave the scene. (Why does she turn the wheels to the right? I'll assume to be clear of the officers to the left and she probably sees the cop crossing the front of her car as she backs up.)

5.) Her car does seemingly brush his hip as he is going around the front bumper on the driver's side. The blame on that will probably fall to whatever side you want it to fall too. I'm curious as to standard practice of a police officer in that situation. I'm assuming the procedure is to stay to the passenger side window and not literally stand in front of the car.

6.) When she passes the cop and he is clear to the front and left of the car he draws his gun and fires 3 times at point blank range (I mean can we agree 3 is excessive from that distance?) The car then speeds down the street (obviously she is most likely dead or on the cusp of death at that point) and crashes into parked cars with other pedestrians nearby.

7.) The first two cops immediately go back to the truck after the shooting happens and are calling stuff in and look to be trying to get away from this.

8.) The cop who shot her goes to the vehicle then turns around and makes a signal seeming to either indicate "let people through" or "let's roll."

9.) The person filming tries to get close as someone is trying to give aid and the cops back everyone away from the vehicle and then never really attempt to do anything. I mean she's probably already dead at that point but you still try to do something.

10.) The person who shot her is allowed to leave the scene by officers.

____________________________________________________________________

Look if nothing else- can we at least agree- regardless of political leaning- this is a colossal breakdown of procedure on a number of fronts by multiple people? Can we also agree this kind of stuff shouldn't happen here in America? Can we also agree that we have political leaders- both parties- fomenting this stuff either prior to the incident or in the wake of it?

Good post.  Agree on most everything.  Rational and thoughtful.

[Ron_Artest 2,684]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

They should all show restraint. But the old saying is the thing "rots from the head down." The President sets the tone, and then that tone is either matched or countered by state and local officials. They all should know better- Frey all the way up to Trump. 

I heard from both the mayor and governor to be peaceful and show love.  Democrat leaders countering the hate and divisiveness with unity and love.

[Reality 3,162]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It'd be nice if you'd stop being a puzzy and leave the board like you said you were doing. 

Meh, I'll do whatever I want and you can keep begging for my attention.

Free country and all.

[Sean Mooney 2,086]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

I heard from both the mayor and governor to be peaceful and show love.  Democrat leaders countering the hate and divisiveness with unity and love.

There was some of that but saying "Get the F out..." has a different tone to it. And I think saying that in the heat of the moment isn't a good decision. The police chief who spoke I think did a really excellent job at handling it all. 

[Sean Mooney 2,086]

Just now, Reality said:

Meh, I'll do whatever I want and you can keep begging for my attention.

Free country and all.

Everybody knew you can't quit this place. You have too much of your life tied up into it to walk away. 

But we all look forward to your next post crying for attention and hoping people will say "No, please don't go..."

[cyclone24 1,960]

5 minutes ago, Reality said:

It's would be nice if Democrats took responsibility for the horrible rhetoric that caused this issue to begin with. It would also be nice if Democrats took responsibility for their horrible stewardship of the border that also caused this.

Demonizing federal agents simply performing their duty is exactly why we are here. 

This… times 1 million.

liberals brought all these people here, look the other way while they stole all of our tax dollars. Heaven forbid we go enforce federal law, and get these people out of our country and we’ve got these liberal dumbasses, causing problems in every city that doesn’t want to clean up their own trash. And they’re vilified for it and then they wonder why liberal people do even dumber things than they already normally do and get themselves killed. 

Mother of the year.

[HellToupee 2,356]

10 minutes ago, MDC said:

Remember when somebody would get shot and the POTUS would say something about cooler heads prevailing and waiting til the facts are out like a normal human, vs acting like a mentally ill lowlife cretin?

Now do the mayor and governor 

 

the mayor saw a video

[Reality 3,162]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Good post.  Agree on most everything.  Rational and thoughtful.

It's really not, the first shot went through the windshield, that's well documented. He wasn't free of the car at the point of the first shot, he was hit, front on and managed to move to the side, thank God he didn't slip on the ice.

Good effort though.

 

[TimHauck 3,516]

People whining blaming “rhetoric from the left” for this is pretty rich, lol

[Sean Mooney 2,086]

Just now, TimHauck said:

People whining blaming “rhetoric from the left” for this is pretty rich, lol

It's the only card they have left in the deck they know how to play.

[supermike80 2,174]

12 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

They should all show restraint. But the old saying is the thing "rots from the head down." The President sets the tone, and then that tone is either matched or countered by state and local officials. They all should know better- Frey all the way up to Trump. 

Yeah except the mayor and gubbernor spoke first. Sooooo might want to temper that opinion.  I'm fine with people saying elected officials should chill, but this goes for BOF SIDEZ!

[Hardcore troubadour 16,176]

16 minutes ago, Reality said:

It's would be nice if Democrats took responsibility for the horrible rhetoric that caused this issue to begin with. It would also be nice if Democrats took responsibility for their horrible stewardship of the border that also caused this.

Demonizing federal agents simply performing their duty is exactly why we are here. 

Great post  left wing rhetoric lay at the heart of all this violence