Strike 6,109 Posted 22 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Reality said: Really stupid response, not what happened. She got shot for attempting to drive over a LEO. They've been changing and/or minimizing the narrative for the last day. That's how you know their arguments are weak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,082 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: There will be a trial on this and a jury will decide. An Ice - That’s (1) Immigration & (2) Customs Enforcement - agent nowhere near any border with zero reasonable suspicion of any crime being perpetrated was trying to stop an American white woman who is a mother of 3 children, who had just waved 2 other LE vehicles ahead of her, from following that line of cars as she slowly pulled away, wheels turned from his position. He broke DHS guidelines on dealing with people in vehicles. The agent was filming at the time & that video will become evidence if he doesn’t destroy it. Lets put it before a jury. Another point nobody ignored in what I wrote because it didn't fit his narrative. Cars did go around here. That is clear in the 4+ minute video right at the beginning. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,355 Posted 22 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: There will be a trial on this and a jury will decide. An Ice - That’s (1) Immigration & (2) Customs Enforcement - agent nowhere near any border with zero reasonable suspicion of any crime being perpetrated was trying to stop an American white woman who is a mother of 3 children, who had just waved 2 other LE vehicles ahead of her, from following that line of cars as she slowly pulled away, wheels turned from his position. He broke DHS guidelines on dealing with people in vehicles. The agent was filming at the time & that video will become evidence if he doesn’t destroy it. Lets put it before a jury. I’ll let JD Vance’s tweet address this….. “This is preposterous. First of all, she's not waving the officers through and has no right to do so even if she were. She is waving another car through, before the officers approach her car. Second, the officers are not randomly searching her, they are approaching her vehicle because she is violating the law: namely, she is obstructing a lawful enforcement operation. You're not allowed to walk up to or drive up to people who are enforcing the law to make it harder for them to do their jobs. “ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,082 Posted 22 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Strike said: They've been changing and/or minimizing the narrative for the last day. That's how you know their arguments are weak. I agree. Lots of MAGA mooks trying to change narratives and lying about stuff here. Their arguments are super weak. Agree 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago Just now, HellToupee said: You're not allowed to walk up to or drive up to people who are enforcing the law to make it harder for them to do their jobs. This is not obstruction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: Another point nobody ignored in what I wrote because it didn't fit his narrative. Cars did go around here. That is clear in the 4+ minute video right at the beginning. Yes there was a line of cars passing around, including LE, she was in that line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,295 Posted 22 hours ago 4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: There will be a trial on this and a jury will decide. An Ice - That’s (1) Immigration & (2) Customs Enforcement - agent nowhere near any border with zero reasonable suspicion of any crime being perpetrated was trying to stop an American white woman who is a mother of 3 children, who had just waved 2 other LE vehicles ahead of her, from following that line of cars as she slowly pulled away, wheels turned from his position. He broke DHS guidelines on dealing with people in vehicles. The agent was filming at the time & that video will become evidence if he doesn’t destroy it. Lets put it before a jury. Hopefully, they get a change of venue. No way this guy gets a fair trial in the rogue state of Minnesota. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 4 minutes ago, HellToupee said: and has no right to do so even if she were Telling a Minneapolis jury a driver has “no right” to waive other cars through will be met with derision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Hopefully, they get a change of venue. No way this guy gets a fair trial in the rogue state of Minnesota. The rogue state of Minnesota. Listen to yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,295 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The rogue state of Minnesota. Listen to yourself. Rogue city of Minneapolis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,355 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: This is not obstruction. She was obstructing earlier and up until her death. Again with your falsehoods Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,816 Posted 22 hours ago Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said: Telling a Minneapolis jury a driver has “no right” to waive other cars through will be met wuth derision. Somalis aren't eligible for jury duty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,355 Posted 22 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Hopefully, they get a change of venue. No way this guy gets a fair trial in the rogue state of Minnesota. It would be a federal trial if one happens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago I’d like to go back & tell my Tea Party friends from 2011 one day they’d be laughing & clapping while federal police blew away a white mother of 3 for protesting. They wouldn’t believe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Rogue city of Minneapolis? Their militant politeness is such a trope a whole movie is based around it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, Horseman said: Somalis aren't eligible for jury duty. Good, leave ‘em out, whiter the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 254 Posted 22 hours ago 2nd degree murder. Arrest, trial, jury of peers. MAGA is afraid of this, of course. Cowards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,295 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I’d like to go back & tell my Tea Party friends from 2011 one day they’d be laughing & clapping while federal police blew away a white mother of 3 for protesting. They wouldn’t believe it. Would you tell them the federal police are enforcing laws against 20 million foreign invaders? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: It would be a federal trial if one happens Not a chance in hell Bondi brings this. Though who knows the USA in MSP kept the Biden prosecutor to handle the fraud investigation so hey maybe there’s a chance. Then we can complain about the rogue Trump appointed USA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,109 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I’d like to go back & tell my Tea Party friends from 2011 one day they’d be laughing & clapping while federal police blew away a white mother of 3 for protesting. They wouldn’t believe it. You used to be such a good poster at FBG's before Trump broke you. I expect false narratives from people like Artest and Mooney, but old SID would have acknowledged that she wasn't shot for this reason regardless of how he felt about the outcome or whether he thought the actions were excessive. But this is a new age with a new, broken SID. So sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago Just now, Tree of Knowledge said: Would you tell them the federal police are enforcing laws against 20 million foreign invaders? Right. In Minneapolis. Fire it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago Just now, Strike said: You used to be such a good poster at FBG's before Trump broke you. I expect false narratives from people like Artest and Mooney, but old SID would have acknowledged that she wasn't shot for this reason regardless of how he felt about the outcome or whether he thought the actions were excessive. But this is a new age with a new, broken SID. So sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,037 Posted 22 hours ago I’d like to go back & tell my LEO grandfather that liberals would be defending a woman who was shot while driving a vehicle at a federal police officer. He wouldn’t believe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,158 Posted 22 hours ago 15 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: There will be a trial on this and a jury will decide. An Ice - That’s (1) Immigration & (2) Customs Enforcement - agent nowhere near any border with zero reasonable suspicion of any crime being perpetrated was trying to stop an American white woman who is a mother of 3 children, who had just waved 2 other LE vehicles ahead of her, from following that line of cars as she slowly pulled away, wheels turned from his position. He broke DHS guidelines on dealing with people in vehicles. The agent was filming at the time & that video will become evidence if he doesn’t destroy it. Lets put it before a jury. 1 & 2 don't matter, at all, no significance and a waste of typing. ICE agents have jurisdiction regardless. A citizen doesn't get to "wave LEO" while they are performing their duty. It's absurd I even have to type this. She was clearly attempting to impede ICE, I doubt any of this makes it to a jury because of how obvious this situation is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,674 Posted 22 hours ago 23 minutes ago, HellToupee said: That’s not why she was shot. Good lord do you eat paint chips growing up? Well then tell horseman not to say stupid stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago Just now, Reality said: 1 & 2 don't matter, at all, no significance and a waste of typing. ICE agents have jurisdiction regardless. Educate me - what was the immigration or customs enforcement ambit at play here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,694 Posted 22 hours ago 15 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: There will be a trial on this and a jury will decide. An Ice - That’s (1) Immigration & (2) Customs Enforcement - agent nowhere near any border with zero reasonable suspicion of any crime being perpetrated was trying to stop an American white woman who is a mother of 3 children, who had just waved 2 other LE vehicles ahead of her, from following that line of cars as she slowly pulled away, wheels turned from his position. He broke DHS guidelines on dealing with people in vehicles. The agent was filming at the time & that video will become evidence if he doesn’t destroy it. Lets put it before a jury. Since you brought up a jury trial, what specific standards and laws will he be held to? What will the charge be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Reality said: A citizen doesn't get to "wave LEO" while they are performing their duty. It's absurd I even have to type this. This is preposterous. I see it all the time in my city. Police cars are everywhere. But besides that, she waved 2 cars forward - and they proceed ahead of her. You’ve seen that right? She’s not a burglar, or shooter, or thief, this was not an active crime scene, this was a big mess of people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Since you brought up a jury trial, what specific standards and laws will he be held to? What will the charge be? If it happens I think first & foremost will be the agent’s DHS guidelines & training on handling people in cars. He’ll get a shot to dismiss on qualified immunity. Who knows about the charge, maybe manslaughter, maybe negligent homicide. That depends on the investigation. The fact that they impeded medical treatment & did not cooperate with PD will be aggravating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,158 Posted 22 hours ago 6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Educate me - what was the immigration or customs enforcement ambit at play here? Their job, HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted 22 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Rogue city of Minneapolis? Either or, this guy is as much innocent as Chauvin or more. I give this guy a 1000% better chance bc the victim was white. Lord help us if this was LaQuanda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Gladiators said: I’d like to go back & tell my LEO grandfather that liberals would be defending a woman who was shot while driving a vehicle at a federal police officer. He wouldn’t believe it. I don’t blame people for having their POV. But this wasn’t a cop, first of all. A cop would have never done this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,694 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: If it happens I think first & foremost will be the agent’s DHS guidelines & training on handling people in cars. He’ll get a shot to dismiss on qualified immunity. Who knows about the charge, maybe manslaughter, maybe negligent homicide. That depends on the investigation. The fact that they impeded medical treatment & did not cooperate with PD will be aggravating. If he didn’t adhere to training about how to handle people in vehicles, he loses his ability to defend himself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, Reality said: Their job, HTH. You don’t know. And I don’t blame you. I don’t think people have to know every little thing. I’m not putting this on you. But you brought up jurisdiction & you have no idea why they are there, if they had a warrant, if this woman was aware of the warrant, any of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, Fireballer said: If he didn’t adhere to training about how to handle people in vehicles, he loses his ability to defend himself? No, but it’s considered prima facie fault. What the outcome of that is depends on the charge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,109 Posted 22 hours ago Looks like it took about 18 hours for SID's to get his talking points from the DNC. He's here in full force, talking points in hand, now though!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,957 Posted 22 hours ago 36 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: It's absurd you MAGA mooks can watch a video that clearly shows these things and then ignore it because you want to protect the team. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IrfmRdDKjnIgNVYckzyMpx6Z82ZMmoXU/view?usp=drive_link In the photo here- the yellow line is the barrel of the gun. The blue line is where the front of the car is and the orange lines are where the legs are of the cop. Again- facts are facts. Lol bizarre….not one court will convict this its so obvious. But sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,037 Posted 22 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I don’t blame people for having their POV. But this wasn’t a cop, first of all. A cop would have never done this. Good catch...Federal officer. I also don't blame people for having their POV. Not all cops would have done this, but some would have. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 859 Posted 22 hours ago Just now, Strike said: Looks like it took about 18 hours for SID's to get his talking points from the DNC. He's here in full force, talking points in hand, now though!!!! Strike, God Bless you & our LE community. God bless that woman & her family. God bless our great nation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites