SaintsInDome2006 866 Posted yesterday at 03:36 PM Just now, Strike said: For those libs who keep asking "What is ICE even doing there", I Strike, I’m just asking for information. I’m just asking if anyone left right or center knows what those actual agents were doing there at that spot. Does anyone know? It may have well been a legitimate mission to arrest a specific bad guy. But does anyone know. TIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,539 Posted yesterday at 03:37 PM Just now, avoiding injuries said: This lady sums up what is wrong with white liberal middle aged women. She had 3 children at home that needed her protection, but instead, she chose to protect Somalian strangers and their fraudulent activities from being deported. Her kids deserved better. Nailed it. The libs won't get it. But it's still fun to rub their noses in their own verbal piss and sht. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted yesterday at 03:37 PM 3 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Don't floor it at an armed officer. Don't assume becauee the wheels may be slightly turned that he knows the intention. Simple. He should have bent down to see if the tires were pointing directly at him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,688 Posted yesterday at 03:37 PM 6 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: The only thing more bizarre is they somehow can’t see that first shot go right through the front windshield which would only occur if the officer was right in front of the car coming at him. You're telling me you can't shoot the windshield of a car while standing out of it's path? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,214 Posted yesterday at 03:37 PM I wouldn’t expect the Ice agent to know what the driver is doing and I’m sure he gets off. Law enforcement always deservedly get the benefit of the doubt. What that video definitely shows is that the woman was not trying to run anyone down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,822 Posted yesterday at 03:37 PM He could have just shot her in the leg!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,539 Posted yesterday at 03:38 PM Just now, avoiding injuries said: He should have bent down to see if the tires were pointing directly at him. He should have layed down on the ground with his head directly in front of the tire to make sure he was judging the direction of her tires perfectly. Then he should have assumed she wouldn't turn the wheel the opposite way to make sure he got run over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted yesterday at 03:38 PM Just now, MDC said: I wouldn’t expect the Ice agent to know what the driver is doing and I’m sure he gets off. Law enforcement always deservedly get the benefit of the doubt. What that video definitely shows is that the woman was not trying to run anyone down. No jury buys that. Not that we’ll ever know… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,822 Posted yesterday at 03:39 PM 2 minutes ago, MDC said: I wouldn’t expect the Ice agent to know what the driver is doing and I’m sure he gets off. Law enforcement always deservedly get the benefit of the doubt. Much better, thanks. Next time stop to think for a minute first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,086 Posted yesterday at 03:39 PM I see the MAGA brigade have reached the point of realizing they have nothing sane in their arguments so they are resorting to absurdity. Surprised they held out this long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,539 Posted yesterday at 03:39 PM 1 minute ago, MDC said: I wouldn’t expect the Ice agent to know what the driver is doing and I’m sure he gets off. Law enforcement always deservedly get the benefit of the doubt. What that video definitely shows is that the woman was not trying to run anyone down. Then why did she floor it? She was trying to run someone over. No other reason to floor it. This is also taking into consideration how many cars have been used to mow down people lately. He made the right move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted yesterday at 03:39 PM Just now, Frozenbeernuts said: He should have layed down on the ground with his head directly in front of the tire to make sure he was judging the direction of her tires perfectly. Then he should have assumed she wouldn't turn the wheel the opposite way to make sure he got run over. How did he not check the psi in the tires before firing?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,115 Posted yesterday at 03:40 PM 1 minute ago, MDC said: I wouldn’t expect the Ice agent to know what the driver is doing and I’m sure he gets off. Law enforcement always deservedly get the benefit of the doubt. What that video definitely shows is that the woman was not trying to run anyone down. I agree with you 100%. I don't think she was trying to run anyone down. But, the cop who's got a 5000 pound SUV headed at him doesn't know that. He does know that she's trying to get away and is driving right at him. He acted in self defense. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,539 Posted yesterday at 03:40 PM Just now, Sean Mooney said: I see the MAGA brigade have reached the point of realizing they have nothing sane in their arguments so they are resorting to absurdity. Surprised they held out this long. See the thing is, Trump is in office and so we get to point out we are winning every day. And you have to accept that. No matter what, we win. It feels great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted yesterday at 03:41 PM 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: I see the MAGA brigade have reached the point of realizing they have nothing sane in their arguments so they are resorting to absurdity. Surprised they held out this long. Matching absurdity with absurdity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,822 Posted yesterday at 03:41 PM Just now, Sean Mooney said: I see the MAGA brigade have reached the point of realizing they have nothing sane in their arguments so they are resorting to absurdity. Surprised they held out this long. I see the substitute snuck off to the teachers lounge to fire one across. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,115 Posted yesterday at 03:41 PM 2 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: No jury buys that. Not that we’ll ever know… It doesn't even matter. All that matters is what the cop thought at the time and whether it was reasonable. He had to make a split second decision. He gets the benefit of the doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,539 Posted yesterday at 03:41 PM 1 minute ago, avoiding injuries said: How did he not check the psi in the tires before firing?? Maybe the alignment too. Man he really botched an opportunity to evaluate the situation as thoroughly as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,794 Posted yesterday at 03:42 PM 6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Or taken her license plate & knocked on her door where she lived with her 3 children. This just might have been a better way to handle this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,688 Posted yesterday at 03:43 PM 2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Then why did she floor it? She was trying to run someone over. No other reason to floor it. To get away from the masked man trying to open her car door. Why would she turn the wheels away from the man standing in front of her if she was trying to hit him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,164 Posted yesterday at 03:43 PM 2 minutes ago, Strike said: I agree with you 100%. I don't think she was trying to run anyone down. But, the cop who's got a 5000 pound SUV headed at him doesn't know that. He does know that she's trying to get away and is driving right at him. He acted in self defense. Correct, obviously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,822 Posted yesterday at 03:43 PM George Floyd!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,214 Posted yesterday at 03:44 PM Just now, Strike said: I agree with you 100%. I don't think she was trying to run anyone down. But, the cop who's got a 5000 pound SUV headed at him doesn't know that. He does know that she's trying to get away and is driving right at him. He acted in self defense. I’m probably splitting hairs here, but I think it’s more accurate to say he acted in what he thought was self defense. Legally it’s the same thing. He won’t face any charges and that’s probably the right call. Don’t you think it’s a little odd that the President and DHS Secretary are calling this woman a domestic terrorist and insisting she was trying to run the agent down? Obviously that’s false. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,688 Posted yesterday at 03:44 PM 1 minute ago, Strike said: It doesn't even matter. All that matters is what the cop thought at the time and whether it was reasonable. He had to make a split second decision. He gets the benefit of the doubt. And he made a terrible decision, which is why we shouldn't be lowering standards and provide inadequate training to hire these goons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,086 Posted yesterday at 03:45 PM 2 minutes ago, Strike said: I agree with you 100%. I don't think she was trying to run anyone down. But, the cop who's got a 5000 pound SUV headed at him doesn't know that. He does know that she's trying to get away and is driving right at him. He acted in self defense. Now the SUV is 5000 pounds. It was 2500 before...can we get an official measurement? As to the driving right at him- I covered all of those scenarios in another post. If she was trying to hit him she was doing a terrible job of it. 2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: See the thing is, Trump is in office and so we get to point out we are winning every day. And you have to accept that. No matter what, we win. It feels great. Trump means little to me...much like every other President in my lifetime. But if you guys feel he gives your life worth and purpose...so be it. 1 minute ago, avoiding injuries said: Matching absurdity with absurdity. We see the MAGA brigade breaking with reality in this scenario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 343 Posted yesterday at 03:46 PM 2 hours ago, 5-Points said: The bottom line is, when there is a law enforcement officer standing in front of your vehicle, don't drive forward. She is dead because of her actions. Had she put the vehicle in park and obeyed lawful commands, she'd be alive today. The agent did not follow proper law enforcement procedures by putting himself in front of the vehicle. She probably didn't even know he was there, seeing as another asshat outside her window was trying to claw his way into the vehicle. This was a terribly handled traffic issue. One thing is for sure, MAGA can now STFU about Ashli Babbitt, seeing as she was actively actually attacking a police-held position after ignoring police and smushing her way into the Capitol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,086 Posted yesterday at 03:46 PM 4 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Maybe the alignment too. Man he really botched an opportunity to evaluate the situation as thoroughly as possible. I already joked about the alignment an hour or so ago. Try to keep up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted yesterday at 03:47 PM Think of all the dirty Somalians that could have been deported if this white b!tch wouldn’t have gotten in the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,822 Posted yesterday at 03:47 PM 1 minute ago, MDC said: Don’t you think it’s a little odd that the President and DHS Secretary are calling this woman a domestic terrorist and insisting she was trying to run the agent down? Obviously that’s false. The guy responsible for reporting the news last night "accidentally" said she was murdered. Wonder here he got that from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,115 Posted yesterday at 03:48 PM 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: And he made a terrible decision, which is why we shouldn't be lowering standards and provide inadequate training to hire these goons. I heard he was as seasoned, well trained agent, but you keep with your DNC talking point narratives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted yesterday at 03:49 PM 4 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m probably splitting hairs here, but I think it’s more accurate to say he acted in what he thought was self defense. Legally it’s the same thing. He won’t face any charges and that’s probably the right call. Don’t you think it’s a little odd that the President and DHS Secretary are calling this woman a domestic terrorist and insisting she was trying to run the agent down? Obviously that’s false. When the left tries to swing the narrative to an 8, you must equally swing it back as hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,297 Posted yesterday at 03:49 PM 16 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: The things people believe. Go look at it, it’s free, no need to sign up. Same people on Twitter, mastodon, threads, bluesky, substack, this place, on & on. The internet is limitless but people spend their time on 3-5 sites. I don’t need cookies from Bluescry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 343 Posted yesterday at 03:49 PM 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Now the SUV is 5000 pounds. It was 2500 before...can we get an official measurement? As to the driving right at him- I covered all of those scenarios in another post. If she was trying to hit him she was doing a terrible job of it. Trump means little to me...much like every other President in my lifetime. But if you guys feel he gives your life worth and purpose...so be it. We see the MAGA brigade breaking with reality in this scenario. It's as if MAGAs haven't even looked at the video. It's as if they think a crazy woman bent on cop killing was driving her 10,000-pound SUV at 100 mph straight at the agent, and he had no choice but to kill or be killed. Give me a fukking break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,698 Posted yesterday at 03:49 PM 11 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Strike, I’m just asking for information. I’m just asking if anyone left right or center knows what those actual agents were doing there at that spot. Does anyone know? It may have well been a legitimate mission to arrest a specific bad guy. But does anyone know. TIA. From what I've read, ICE has been conducting some sort of ongoing operation in that neighborhood for six weeks, according to statements from people who live there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,962 Posted yesterday at 03:50 PM Why didn’t he just hang onto the side of the vehicle and slowly leak the air out of her tires. This is basically liberal logic. Again, not one court is going to convict him with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,684 Posted yesterday at 03:50 PM 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: I already joked about the alignment an hour or so ago. Try to keep up 3 people willingly see your posts. Joke Stands! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,822 Posted yesterday at 03:50 PM 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Now the SUV is 5000 pounds. It was 2500 before...can we get an official measurement? No need. If you taught physics you'd understand both are lethal. You just drip with dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,115 Posted yesterday at 03:50 PM 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Now the SUV is 5000 pounds. It was 2500 before...can we get an official measurement? As to the driving right at him- I covered all of those scenarios in another post. If she was trying to hit him she was doing a terrible job of it. Obviously I'm spitballing, but my Honda S2000 weights 2800 pounds and it's a sports car. A typical SUV is thousands of pounds more than that. 5000 is a reasonable generic weight to use when discussing SUV's. 2500 is a ridiculous number. Where did you read that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,115 Posted yesterday at 03:52 PM 2 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Why didn’t he just hang onto the side of the vehicle and slowly leak the air out of her tires. This is basically liberal logic. Again, not one court is going to convict him with this. Nah, he should have hung on to the bottom of the SUV and slowly worked his way to the back of the SUV while being dragged along the ground, climbed up the rear door, busted the window out and climbed in from the back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,086 Posted yesterday at 03:52 PM 1 minute ago, Strike said: Obviously I'm spitballing, but my Honda S2000 weights 2800 pounds and it's a sports car. A typical SUV is thousands of pounds more than that. 5000 is a reasonable generic weight to use when discussing SUV's. 2500 is a ridiculous number. Where did you read that? I think cyclone posted it earlier in a post and a few others repeated it. Obviously I'm being glib about the weight of the car based off posts in the thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites