Woman shot in the face during 'ICE-related shooting' in Minneapolis

[Hardcore troubadour 16,186]

17 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Do you think this was handled well by ICE?

Not really. 

[thegeneral 3,801]

4 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

His language? He’s human.

ICE made a huge mistake way back when they started picking up bad hombres. They let these idiots interfere with no repercussions, it embolden them.

Not him in particular, this whole affair. The guy running up to the car and opening the door, the guy who shot her positioning himself in front of the car.

I get she was annoying to listen to, she wasn’t blocking the road though. Cars were driving by. She wasn’t threatening. Just get the plates, arrest her later. I can think of numerous other ways to have this go down rather than what they did.

All that being said citizens should not be engaging these cops in the way the partner was and you shouldn’t be placing your car in the road like this. I get the urge to shoot her with a beanbag gun TBH.

These people should absolutely be allowed to film and follow ICE around. Like anything some people are just dumb and that is a bad mix when you are talking such small degrees that can shift things into a fiasco. 

[thegeneral 3,801]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Not really. 

Hey we agree!

[weepaws 3,472]

Sad they killed her, but murder is now acceptable therapy for the police.  

[Fireballer 2,699]

34 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

You are forgetting, or leaving out, the fact that she had just previously backed up, with her wheels turned to the left. So when she's turning her steering wheel to the right, she's actually turning her front wheels straight. 

JFC….some of these people here.  It’s was obvious from the early video she had her foot on accelerator while wheels were actually still turned to the left slightly.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,186]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Hey we agree!

For different reasons. My view comes from training, experience and knowing when you can use DPF. Yours, Gutters , dog , Mooney and others comes from your emotions. 

[thegeneral 3,801]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

For different reasons. My view comes from training, experience and knowing when you can use DPF. Yours, Gutters , dog , Mooney and others comes from your emotions. 

Oh I see.

[HellToupee 2,364]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Not him in particular, this whole affair. The guy running up to the car and opening the door, the guy who shot her positioning himself in front of the car.

I get she was annoying to listen to, she wasn’t blocking the road though. Cars were driving by. She wasn’t threatening. Just get the plates, arrest her later. I can think of numerous other ways to have this go down rather than what they did.

All that being said citizens should not be engaging these cops in the way the partner was and you shouldn’t be placing your car in the road like this. I get the urge to shoot her with a beanbag gun TBH.

These people should absolutely be allowed to film and follow ICE around. Like anything some people are just dumb and that is a bad mix when you are talking such small degrees that can shift things into a fiasco. 

I agree with some of this. I read this wasn’t her 1st engagement with them that day. There is a lot of blame to go Arron all sides, including the local police or better yet local politicians for not using the local police for support . Still think the agent is in the clear. I feel bad for him and his family, he was put in a bad situation 

[Horseman 2,822]

Two welfare hags chasing around government agents. And with a BANG she loses all her handouts.  Does it get any more ironic than that?   

 

[Fireballer 2,699]

14 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Yeah I get it. He pulled his weapon while she was turning away from him.

If you wanna say she was turning the wheel clockwise, sure.  But if you can’t see that he drew when her wheels were still slightly turned left and rotating forward, I don’t know what to tell you.

[Horseman 2,822]

Turn on CNN, it's comedy GOLD right now.  Worse than the liberal hacks in here. Desperately trying to find an expert, in light of all the new videos, that will still say she shouldn't have been shot.   

[Horseman 2,822]

"You want to come at us?  Let's go!"

Ok, bang. 

[Horseman 2,822]

20 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Yeah I get it. He pulled his weapon while she was turning away from him.

No job means no insurance for an eye exam?

[nobody 2,976]

I see the disconnect now.

Gutter is saying agent got the first shot off from the side of the car.  I guess firstly, his left leg was still in the path, but more importantly and why I didn't understand the point he was even trying to make as he kept posting about slow mo still frames saying he wasn't in front of the vehicle is that it's completely irrelevant... obviously. The second she accelerates toward him (and she did hit him), use of deadly force is justified by law.  

To clarify, I believe gutter's point is that because he ostensibly got out of the way, he removed himself from mortal danger by a few inches, and therefore he shouldn't have shot.  

But this isn't an avengers movie where the hero has to go out of their way to incapacitate the villain.  It's real life.  You assault an officer with a deadly weapon, the officer is legally allowed to respond with deadly force.  

Clean shoot

[BrahmaBulls 1,008]

The lady outside of the car is what I picture Gutter is like

[SaintsInDome2006 867]

2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

If you wanna say she was turning the wheel clockwise, sure.  But if you can’t see that he drew when her wheels were still slightly turned left and rotating forward, I don’t know what to tell you.

But we’ve,already seen the external video where we see she veers right, not straight ahead. She did not drive straight she drove right.

And as Tree pointed out Good started moving when her GF said ‘drive drive drive’ which happened when the second agent grabbed at her door.

She also smiles & says, “Dude, I’m not mad at you.” This is a woman with no criminal record. Go look at her at that video, at 00:15, that looks like someone capable & ready to mow over a federal agent?

[MDC 8,215]

30 minutes ago, nobody said:

Agreed.  Both FAFOed their lives away.

This is the stuff I'm talking about when I say each side makes mistakes.  Babitt is a no one and doesn't matter at all.  Defending her gains the magas nothing and it comes with the side of she was doing shìt she shouldn't have been doing and got herself killed.  

She's the pawn you should be sacrificing to focus on the real goal which should be undoing all this wokie BS grifting that Biden's admin embraced to not look racist.

Imagine what might have happened if after 1/6 Biden tweeted about how Babbitt was a professional agitator and domestic terrorist who tried to violently kill capital police and the reason it happened was the Radical Right Movement of Hate threatening, assaulting, and targeting our men and women in uniform.

Fortunately he didn’t know how to use a Twitter box and no sane person would say such a thing in the wake of a tragedy. 

[Horseman 2,822]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

I see the disconnect now.

Gutter is saying agent got the first shot off from the side of the car.  I guess firstly, his left leg was still in the path, but more importantly and why I didn't understand the point he was even trying to make as he kept posting about slow mo still frames saying he wasn't in front of the vehicle is that it's completely irrelevant... obviously. The second she accelerates toward him (and she did hit him), use of deadly force is justified by law.  

To clarify, I believe gutter's point is that because he ostensibly got out of the way, he removed himself from mortal danger by a few inches, and therefore he shouldn't have shot.  

But this isn't an avengers movie where the hero has to go out of their way to incapacitate the villain.  It's real life.  You assault an officer with a deadly weapon, the officer is legally allowed to respond with deadly force.  

Clean shoot

 

[nobody 2,976]

By the way, where are all the idiots that saw those original videos showing she clearly hit the guy and still claimed she didn't hit him.  

This whole thread is fascinating.

[Horseman 2,822]

Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

The lady outside of the car is what I picture Gutter is like

Yep

[thegeneral 3,801]

1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said:

The lady outside of the car is what I picture Gutter is like

Do you think about this a lot?

[thegeneral 3,801]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

By the way, where are all the idiots that saw those original videos showing she clearly hit the guy and still claimed she didn't hit him.  

This whole thread is fascinating.

Probably with the Prez who said he was run over and lucky to be alive

[Tree of Knowledge 2,297]

26 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

His language? He’s human.

ICE made a huge mistake way back when they started picking up bad hombres. They let these idiots interfere with no repercussions, it embolden them.

Exactly.  Arrest them, put them in the same paddy wagon and cells as the bad hombres.  Make a couple innocent clerical errors and they wake up in an El Salvador prison for a couple month stay until they fix the error.  They’ll get with the program real quickly.  

[FrancieFootball 344]

25 minutes ago, NorthernVike said:

The fock the state doesn't want them here.  It's our moron governor that doesn't want them here because they will find out he's connected to the samali fraudsters.    

Baloney. No one but MAGA wants these ICE goons and the military running loose in our communities, but Daddy can do no wrong in MAGA eyes.

All this chaos and divisiveness. 

[SaintsInDome2006 867]

10 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

If you wanna say she was turning the wheel clockwise, sure.  But if you can’t see that he drew when her wheels were still slightly turned left and rotating forward, I don’t know what to tell you.

Sorry, part 2, you mean mid turn Ross thought Good was turning towards him? Ok, maybe. But then they both panicked.

[Horseman 2,822]

Why are they always fat and wearing sweatpants.  For christ sake have some self dignity. 

[Fireballer 2,699]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

But we’ve,already seen the external video where we see she veers right, not straight ahead. She did not drive straight she drove right.

And as Tree pointed out Good started moving when her GF said ‘drive drive drive’ which happened when the second agent grabbed at her door.

She also smiles & says, “Dude, I’m not mad at you.” This is a woman with no criminal record. Go look at her at that video, at 00:15, that looks like someone capable & ready to mow over a federal agent?

Literally none of that matters.  You know she didn’t have to intend to hit him for it to be a clean shoot, right?  Her wheels were rotating forward while still turned to left of midline. Fact.

[nobody 2,976]

10 minutes ago, MDC said:

Imagine what might have happened if after 1/6 Biden tweeted about how Babbitt was a professional agitator and domestic terrorist who tried to violently kill capital police and the reason it happened was the Radical Right Movement of Hate threatening, assaulting, and targeting our men and women in uniform.

Fortunately he didn’t know how to use a Twitter box and no sane person would say such a thing in the wake of a tragedy. 

Well Biden may not have done it (I have no idea since anything that comes out of that office is just as likely to be BS as true whether the red or blue monkeys are saying it and therefore don't even pay attention to what they say) but a whole lot of blue teamers were claiming people meandering around the capitol taking selfies was an insurrection (including you?), and didn't AOC claim she was scared she was going to get raped and she wasn't even there?  I only remember that because it was so damn absurd.

[Horseman 2,822]

10 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Turn on CNN, it's comedy GOLD right now.  Worse than the liberal hacks in here. Desperately trying to find an expert, in light of all the new videos, that will still say she shouldn't have been shot.   

They found one!  We'll, not an expert. A crying community member saying these ICE agents are tearing apart families.   

[SaintsInDome2006 867]

Just now, Fireballer said:

Literally none of that matters.  You know she didn’t have to intend to hit him for it to be a clean shoot, right?  Her wheels were rotating forward while still turned to left of midline. Fact.

See my followup, didn’t mean to talk past you.

[weepaws 3,472]

Shame that police can shot you while driving, socialism is here so soon.  Trump America, losing. 

[Ron_Artest 2,690]

6 minutes ago, nobody said:

I see the disconnect now.

Gutter is saying agent got the first shot off from the side of the car.  I guess firstly, his left leg was still in the path, but more importantly and why I didn't understand the point he was even trying to make as he kept posting about slow mo still frames saying he wasn't in front of the vehicle is that it's completely irrelevant... obviously. The second she accelerates toward him (and she did hit him), use of deadly force is justified by law.  

To clarify, I believe gutter's point is that because he ostensibly got out of the way, he removed himself from mortal danger by a few inches, and therefore he shouldn't have shot.  

But this isn't an avengers movie where the hero has to go out of their way to incapacitate the villain.  It's real life.  You assault an officer with a deadly weapon, the officer is legally allowed to respond with deadly force.  

Clean shoot

FINALLY.

And yes it contradicts everyone that said that he was in front of the car and it was self defense.

BUT NOW, you're agreeing he's not in danger when he fires.  But you still say it's a clean shot.  From a legal standpoint, I don't know, I wouldn't think so but I'm not a lawyer.  But from a moral standpoint, you agree he's just killing her because he's pissed, to get back at her, right?  And you are ok with that?

[Horseman 2,822]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

FINALLY.

And yes it contradicts everyone that said that he was in front of the car and it was self defense.

BUT NOW, you're agreeing he's not in danger when he fires.  But you still say it's a clean shot.  From a legal standpoint, I don't know, I wouldn't think so but I'm not a lawyer.  But from a moral standpoint, you agree he's just killing her because he's pissed, to get back at her, right?  And you are ok with that?

You should sit the rest of this one out.  

Maybe go get some work from home done.  

 

 

[Horseman 2,822]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

I don't know, I wouldn't think so but I'm not a lawyer.  

You're kidding.  No chit?

[Fireballer 2,699]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

FINALLY.

And yes it contradicts everyone that said that he was in front of the car and it was self defense.

BUT NOW, you're agreeing he's not in danger when he fires.  But you still say it's a clean shot.  From a legal standpoint, I don't know, I wouldn't think so but I'm not a lawyer.  But from a moral standpoint, you agree he's just killing her because he's pissed, to get back at her, right?  And you are ok with that?

Yes finally.  You admit all of your bloviation  is because it doesn’t feel right to you, personally. 

[MDC 8,215]

4 minutes ago, nobody said:

Well Biden amy not have done it, but a whole lot of blue teamers were claiming people meandering around the capitol taking selfies was an insurrection (including you?), and didn't AOC claim she was scared she was going to get raped and she wasn't even there?

I thought calling it an insurrection was a major exaggeration but it also wasn’t just a selfie fest, and by MAGA logic the capital police should’ve rained gunfire down on that pack of sore losers.

Lots of blue teamers said many dumb things about 1/6. Only one POTUS I know would have said something as stupid as Don’s Minneapolis tweet. 

I wish that was a one off, but he’s a mentally unwell cretin and that response was par for the course.

[Ron_Artest 2,690]

Just now, Fireballer said:

Yes finally.  You admit all of your location is because it doesn’t feel right to you, personally. 

location?

The finally was someone can see that the agent isn't standing in front of the car when he shoots

[HellToupee 2,364]

13 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

The lady outside of the car is what I picture Gutter is like

poor Ron 

[Maximum Overkill 2,708]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

he's just killing her because he's pissed, to get back at her, right?  And you are ok with that?

Francie, calm down. It's all on video. 

It's 100% self defense no matter how your little Liberal eyes see it. There's not a court in the World where he's getting charged with murder. He followed all protocol to a tee. 

She'd still be alive today if the dykes just followed instructions. It's sad but 100% the dykes fault. 

It's ok to say it, you won't lose your Woke card. 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,540]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Good (smiling) @ timestamp 00:15: “That’s fine dude, I’m not made at you.” 

Ross @ timestamp 00:45: “Fucklng bltch.”

Have you actually watched this? 

She was purposely blocking ICE. The narrative was she was just a scared mom who didn't know what to do. WRONG. LIES. AGAIN.