SaintsInDome2006 866 Posted 10 hours ago Just now, HellToupee said: Is this the talking point now with the fellas Buddy I just watched the video when Reality posted it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,494 Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, cyclone24 said: Again, pot meat, freaking kettle Oh no, we’re applying them evenly now you just don’t like it because it’s going against you. Have fun watching Tim Walz get thrown in prison. The level of hypocrisy you put out is intellectually indefensible unless you are a total moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,690 Posted 10 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: A cell phone video that shows she brushed his hip (which I said yesterday) and then he fired three rounds- seemingly from the side of the car is the clincher. God some of you are dumb. What drug cocktail do they make MAGA mooks take before they lobotomize them? Thank You. It's focking amazing these people. Are they trolls or galactically stupid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,364 Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, jonmx said: Over 4 million federal employees. All have immunity while doing official duties. This isn’t true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,494 Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said: The filming of it is the problem lol. So of course the answer is absolute immunity (when it serves their purpose). The Republican party folks. Now solely MAGA, aka the cult of Trump. Good lord what a bunch of cucks. The problem is immunity. I said it in the post before you even posted this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,397 Posted 10 hours ago 9 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Got a better idea that I think you will agree to. Everyone shut their pie holes, stop speculating, stop accusing with no evidence, and let the investigation take its course then you can point your fingers all you want. Deal? I agree with this as long as details of the investigation get released to the public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,164 Posted 10 hours ago I know there are a few people who are so dug in they'll never relent, that's fine, they have a narrative. There's just not much left to discuss here. Completely justified, the agent is fortunate to not be seriously injured or even dead. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,494 Posted 10 hours ago Just now, HellToupee said: This isn’t true Oh it certainly is. Federal employees have massive immunity when pefforming offical duties and are out of reach of a citizen getting justice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 866 Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: She can be heard yelling “drive, drive,drive” She does say that, Good was reacting to her. The GF was getting into the car but she didn’t want Good to unlock it because that would let the 2nd agent in, so she told her to just leave her. Unbelievable horrible stupidity across the board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,347 Posted 10 hours ago I lament the loss of civility, the ability to compromise, and the talent of listening to fashion mutually acceptable solutions. The chasm is wide and widening, and so many cheer that on. Our passions have literally blinded us. I see no way out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancieFootball 344 Posted 10 hours ago 6 minutes ago, 5-Points said: I couldn't disagree more but you are entitled to your opinion. Claiming that this woman was weaponizing her vehicle and going after the agent is ridiculous. He wasn't supposed to be in front of the vehicle, the other agent shouldn't not have been trying to claw open the door and the gun should not have drawn and fired. In fact, the agents shouldn't even be there. The city doesn't want them. The state doesn't want them. And Trump, before he decided to become a dictator, was all about government staying out of local control. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 866 Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Reality said: I know there are a few people who are so dug in they'll never relent, that's fine, they have a narrative. There's just not much left to discuss here. Completely justified, the agent is fortunate to not be seriously injured or even dead. I don’t know about that, the video is definitely helpful. Thanks for posting that. And Strike posted the DHS rules. Have they released the video from the second agent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,690 Posted 10 hours ago Also this was not a bodycam, it was his cell phone. Why is he taking cell phone video of her? He has cell phone in one hand, gun in the other, manages to murder someone, get run over, and keep filming on his phone all at the same time. Impressive. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,494 Posted 10 hours ago Federal tort act provides absolute immunity to many federal agents acting in certain duties and qualified immunity to the rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,801 Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Is this the talking point now with the fellas Do you think this was handled well by ICE? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,364 Posted 10 hours ago Just now, jonmx said: Oh it certainly is. Federal employees have massive immunity when pefforming offical duties and are out of reach of a citizen getting justice. The OIG and FBI handle matters. People could get charged by local officials but do the most part the case will be removed to a federal court Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,801 Posted 10 hours ago Just now, jonmx said: Federal tort act provides absolute immunity to many federal agents acting in certain duties and qualified immunity to the rest. That’s just great. Be sure not to film either! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,976 Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, MDC said: Babbitt had broken into the capital building and was shot while attempting to climb through the broken window of a barricaded door. Anyone who thinks Good deserved to get shot but that was a miscarriage of justice is an absolute clown. Agreed. Both FAFOed their lives away. This is the stuff I'm talking about when I say each side makes mistakes. Babitt is a no one and doesn't matter at all. Defending her gains the magas nothing and it comes with the side of she was doing shìt she shouldn't have been doing and got herself killed. She's the pawn you should be sacrificing to focus on the real goal which should be undoing all this wokie BS grifting that Biden's admin embraced to not look racist. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,397 Posted 10 hours ago Just now, Ron_Artest said: Also this was not a bodycam, it was his cell phone. Why is he taking cell phone video of her? He has cell phone in one hand, gun in the other, manages to murder someone, get run over, and keep filming on his phone all at the same time. Impressive. Wildly unprofessional. I’m still in a bit of shock to see anybody defending him. At the VERY least, he’s absolute shite at his job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,297 Posted 10 hours ago Just now, Ron_Artest said: Also this was not a bodycam, it was his cell phone. Why is he taking cell phone video of her? He has cell phone in one hand, gun in the other, manages to murder someone, get run over, and keep filming on his phone all at the same time. Impressive. I understand how you think that is impressive. You can’t even access your brain and type at the same time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 866 Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Also this was not a bodycam, it was his cell phone. Why is he taking cell phone video of her? He has cell phone in one hand, gun in the other, manages to murder someone, get run over, and keep filming on his phone all at the same time. Impressive. Good point. And where does that data go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,494 Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: Claiming that this woman was weaponizing her vehicle and going after the agent is ridiculous. He wasn't supposed to be in front of the vehicle, the other agent shouldn't not have been trying to claw open the door and the gun should not have drawn and fired. In fact, the agents shouldn't even be there. The city doesn't want them. The state doesn't want them. And Trump, before he decided to become a dictator, was all about government staying out of local control. He was not supposed to be in front of the vehicle???? In what world does that justify accelerating towards him??. The vehicle was stopped when he got in front of it. Stupidity in here is so deep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,364 Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Also this was not a bodycam, it was his cell phone. Why is he taking cell phone video of her? He has cell phone in one hand, gun in the other, manages to murder someone, get run over, and keep filming on his phone all at the same time. Impressive. Next check to see if he had green safety tags on his footwear. Keep up the good work Clouseau 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,494 Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, nobody said: Agreed. Both FAFOed their lives away. This is the stuff I'm talking about when I say each side makes mistakes. Babitt is a no one and doesn't matter at all. Defending her gains the magas nothing and it comes with the side of she was doing shìt she shouldn't have been doing and got herself killed. She's the pawn you should be sacrificing to focus on the real goal which should be undoing all this wokie BS grifting that Biden's admin embraced to not look racist. The one major difference is thst Babbitt in no way posed an immediate risk to the life of the officer. That is a major distinction which flips one from justified and the other to unjustified. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 866 Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I lament the loss of civility, the ability to compromise, and the talent of listening to fashion mutually acceptable solutions. The chasm is wide and widening, and so many cheer that on. Our passions hae literally blinded us. I see no way out. You ever see or read No Country for Old Men? There’s a scene where the sheriff talks about how even in a contest between man & steer nothing is certain. I sort of feel like that’s what’s happened here. But also in general yes there’s a forlorn sense of modern society run amok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,038 Posted 10 hours ago Do you guys think if gutterboy was standing in front of the car she would have seen him? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,494 Posted 10 hours ago Of course an laughing emoji because the morons can't point to a deadly weapon that Ashley had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,364 Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Do you think this was handled well by ICE? His language? He’s human. ICE made a huge mistake way back when they started picking up bad hombres. They let these idiots interfere with no repercussions, it embolden them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,164 Posted 10 hours ago 5 minutes ago, jonmx said: He was not supposed to be in front of the vehicle???? In what world does that justify accelerating towards him??. The vehicle was stopped when he got in front of it. Stupidity in here is so deep It's so silly it's really not worth justifying with a response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 280 Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Look at Part V(A)(2). It says plainly that Ross was prohibited from using weapons to disable a vehicle. He was trying to disable the driver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,113 Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: Claiming that this woman was weaponizing her vehicle and going after the agent is ridiculous. He wasn't supposed to be in front of the vehicle, the other agent shouldn't not have been trying to claw open the door and the gun should not have drawn and fired. In fact, the agents shouldn't even be there. The city doesn't want them. The state doesn't want them. And Trump, before he decided to become a dictator, was all about government staying out of local control. The fock the state doesn't want them here. It's our moron governor that doesn't want them here because they will find out he's connected to the samali fraudsters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,115 Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, jonmx said: Of course an laughing emoji because the morons can't point to a deadly weapon that Ashley had. Ashli. If you people want to use dead martyr's for your political gain please at least show some respect. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,113 Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Gladiators said: Do you guys think if gutterboy was standing in front of the car she would have seen him? Would anyone care? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,164 Posted 10 hours ago Just now, shadrap said: He was trying to disable the driver. Successfully, btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 866 Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, jonmx said: The one major difference is thst Babbitt in no way posed an immediate risk to the life of the officer. That is a major distinction which flips one from justified and the other to unjustified. If Babbitt had smiled, been at rest, and said, “Dude, I’m not mad at you,” and then tried to leave, yeah she’d probably be alive today. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,690 Posted 10 hours ago At the :41s mark, you hear him scream. That's the last frame you see the vehicle. You can see the front bumper from the side. After that there is a thud sound which is likely his phone in his hand hitting the car which syncs up to the other videos, then from the side the first shot through the windshield and as she drives away the two shots into the drivers side window. Then he calls her a focking b1tch. Walks over, sees she's dead, and gets the fock out of there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 866 Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, shadrap said: He was trying to disable the driver. Yeah I get it. He pulled his weapon while she was turning away from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,801 Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, nobody said: Agreed. Both FAFOed their lives away. This is the stuff I'm talking about when I say each side makes mistakes. Babitt is a no one and doesn't matter at all. Defending her gains the magas nothing and it comes with the side of she was doing shìt she shouldn't have been doing and got herself killed. She's the pawn you should be sacrificing to focus on the real goal which should be undoing all this wokie BS grifting that Biden's admin embraced to not look racist. Babbitt has to be defended because she died needlessly in the name of Prez Bozo who got so butthurt he lost he had to invent all these scenarios as to how it couldn’t possibly happen. He’s a highly functioning version of these nuts who show up at rallies and act insane, but the purpose of the rallies would be his ego and image. The mental issues he has are off the charts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,976 Posted 10 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Come on, bro. You can't drop a 78 minute video and expect people to watch it. If there is something new and relevant in there tell us where it is 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,699 Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, MDC said: Seems to me whatever “investigation” we have into this shooting is already corrupted from go by the POTUS / DHS secretary saying Good was a domestic terrorist who tried to run an agent down and the Veep claiming ICE has “full immunity.” If only we had stable leadership instead of a pack of incompetent venal cretins. I agree. Just keep mouth shut. Homan is the only one I’ve seen to advise on reserving judgment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites