kilroy69 994 Posted December 29, 2014 Would never happen. He is a former President. They have such huge egos, they would never take a demotion. Much like a CEO of a major corp. You are looking at it as if he is a former president with no ties to the current one. Thats simply not the case. Bill is off into being a paid speaker and he is done with his aims at president. There is no power problem. By being sec of state he even further cements the family name in american minds and sets up chelsea as a virtual shoe is when she decides to run.BOTH parents president and sec of states? They will bill themselves as this generations camalot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted December 29, 2014 You are looking at it as if he is a former president with no ties to the current one. Thats simply not the case. Bill is off into being a paid speaker and he is done with his aims at president. There is no power problem. By being sec of state he even further cements the family name in american minds and sets up chelsea as a virtual shoe is when she decides to run.BOTH parents president and sec of states? They will bill themselves as this generations camalot. I agree with NorthernVike You don't go backwards. Secretary of State to President is fine. The inverse is not. It might be different if it was something not directly related (chairman of joint Chiefs of staff or Secretary General of UN, for example), but to go from head of the cabinet to merely serving on the cabinet is a non-starter I would think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted December 29, 2014 Federal law prohibits a POTUS from appointing an immediate family member to Cabinet positions. I'm shocked Wormy doesn't know this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted December 29, 2014 Federal law prohibits a POTUS from appointing an immediate family member to Cabinet positions. I'm shocked Wormy doesn't know this. Can you link this -- not saying it isn't right as I don;t know but I think I have heard several times Bill might be SOS on different news programs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted December 29, 2014 Can you link this -- not saying it isn't right as I don;t know but I think I have heard several times Bill might be SOS on different news programs http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_the_United_States Under 5 U.S.C. § 3110, federal officials are prohibited from appointing their immediate family members to certain governmental positions, including those in the Cabinet. Passed in 1967, this law was a congressional response in delayed dismay about John F. Kennedy's appointment of his brother Robert F. Kennedy to the office of the Attorney General. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted December 29, 2014 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_the_United_States Under 5 U.S.C. § 3110, federal officials are prohibited from appointing their immediate family members to certain governmental positions, including those in the Cabinet. Passed in 1967, this law was a congressional response in delayed dismay about John F. Kennedy's appointment of his brother Robert F. Kennedy to the office of the Attorney General. Wormy learns something new about the law everyday. Too bad it comes from a low-rent FFB messageboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,892 Posted December 29, 2014 They'll just get a divorce. Bill gets to be SOS and everybody's happy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,560 Posted December 30, 2014 Would never happen. He is a former President. They have such huge egos, they would never take a demotion. Much like a CEO of a major corp. I dunno. Sec of State sets foreign policy. It's a better gig than John Quincy Adams who returned to the House of Representatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted December 30, 2014 Would never happen. He is a former President. They have such huge egos, they would never take a demotion. Much like a CEO of a major corp. You are acting like Bill was president the first time when we really know she was really in charge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted December 30, 2014 I dunno. Sec of State sets foreign policy. It's a better gig than John Quincy Adams who returned to the House of Representatives. John Quincy Adams also worked as a lawyer after his presidency, which clinton can't either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted December 30, 2014 You are acting like Bill was president the first time when we really know she was really in charge. That would be the best campaign slogan she could come up with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted December 31, 2014 That would be the best campaign slogan she could come up with. That just might work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted December 31, 2014 One real downside to a Clinton vs. Bush campaign would be that Hillary could point to the last presidency for Clinton, vs. the last presidency for Bush. That would be a sound bite people would likely latch on to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted December 31, 2014 Clinton vs. Bush 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 18, 2015 Distancing himself from his brother: As former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida gears up for a possible campaign for the presidency, he is seen as the brother of the last Republican to live in the White House and therefore, in some ways, the second coming of George W. Bush. But the reality is the Bush brothers are not especially close. While loving and supportive of each other, the two brothers do not talk that often, according to family intimates. Seven years apart in age, they travel in different circles and have distinct political networks. The older brother has been a vocal advocate of a Jeb Bush campaign but, like everyone else, reads tea leaves about whether he will run. Indeed, before Jeb Bush announced that he would explore a campaign, the former president confided to associates privately, I may be the last one to know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted January 18, 2015 Distancing himself from his brother: They are family but from everything I have read not close at all just like your qoute says ... Jeb was the Golden Boy and W. the red headed step child. W. rode his last name all the way to the white house and then burned the name! Jeb is alot like his father and has that Hispanic connection as well as the likely hood of choosing Rubio as his Running mate ... for that reason I think he has a better chance then anyone to beat Hillary. PLease Mitt don't run -- you are too much of a nice guy to win an election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 18, 2015 They are family but from everything I have read not close at all just like your qoute says ... Jeb was the Golden Boy and W. the red headed step child. W. rode his last name all the way to the white house and then burned the name! Jeb is alot like his father and has that Hispanic connection as well as the likely hood of choosing Rubio as his Running mate ... for that reason I think he has a better chance then anyone to beat Hillary. PLease Mitt don't run -- you are too much of a nice guy to win an election. I'm not sure a "nice guy" calls half of the country worthless leaches who can never be helped. But at any rate, I agree that the Republicans should not want him running again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted January 18, 2015 I have been saying it for a while now. Its gonna be Bush/Rubio vs Clinton/Warren Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted January 19, 2015 I'm not sure a "nice guy" calls half of the country worthless leaches who can never be helped. But at any rate, I agree that the Republicans should not want him running again. Who said that? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted January 19, 2015 Florida did below average during Jeb Bush's tenure on the one issue I care most about, debt. Florida's debt grew 77% from 1999 to 2007, which was 32nd worst during that time period. There should be no way any fiscal conservative should support Bush. Here are the raw numbers I put together myself from these links, all numbers in billions of dollars. http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/compare_state_revenue_2007bZ0a http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/compare_state_revenue_1999bZ0a State 1999 Debt 2007 Debt Debt GrowthWyoming $2.30 $2.20 -4%Utah $12.90 $15.90 23%West Virginia $7.10 $9.00 27%Alaska $7.40 $9.90 34%Hawaii $7.70 $10.40 35%Maine $5.60 $8.00 43%Minnesota $26.90 $38.70 44%Mississippi $8.60 $12.50 45%Maryland $23.90 $34.90 46%Connecticut $22.20 $32.50 46%North Dakota $2.50 $3.70 48%Oklahoma $11.20 $16.60 48%Vermont $2.80 $4.20 50%Delaware $4.90 $7.40 51%New York $171.40 $259.60 51%New Hampshire $6.80 $10.30 51%Rhode Island $6.60 $10.50 59%South Dakota $3.00 $4.80 60%Louisiana $17.30 $27.70 60%Pennsylvania $69.50 $111.80 61%Idaho $3.10 $5.10 65%Michigan $44.10 $72.70 65%Washington $37.20 $61.40 65%Virginia $30.40 $50.70 67%Wisconsin $24.60 $41.50 69%Kentucky $22.50 $38.00 69%New Mexico $7.20 $12.20 69%Alabama $14.30 $24.40 71%Arizona $22.90 $39.10 71%Arkansas $6.90 $12.10 75%Georgia $26.30 $46.50 77%Florida $75.70 $134.20 77%Massachusetts $50.30 $89.30 78%New Jersey $47.90 $85.70 79%Nevada $12.30 $22.10 80%Montana $3.60 $6.50 81%North Carolina $27.40 $50.10 83%Ohio $36.50 $67.00 84%Nebraska $6.30 $11.60 84%Illinois $62.90 $116.70 86%California $168.30 $330.50 96%Tennessee $17.40 $35.00 101%Texas $90.60 $186.70 106%Iowa $7.20 $14.90 107%Oregon $14.30 $29.70 108%Colorado $22.10 $46.30 110%South Carolina $15.60 $33.90 117%Kansas $9.70 $21.20 119%Missouri $17.60 $38.90 121%Indiana $18.50 $41.20 123% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord4GL 4 Posted January 19, 2015 I'm not sure a "nice guy" calls half of the country worthless leaches who can never be helped. But at any rate, I agree that the Republicans should not want him running again. Unfortunately, that isn't what the nice guys said. And he was right. A large number of people collecting entitlements will keep voting for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BudBro 117 Posted January 19, 2015 I have been saying it for a while now. Its gonna be Bush/Rubio vs Clinton/Warren wow, what if we had to choose from this set? could you even imagine clinton and warren as the faces of america? what's the fascination with women being in men's jobs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted January 20, 2015 Bush vs. bush? No thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted January 20, 2015 wow, what if we had to choose from this set? could you even imagine clinton and warren as the faces of america? what's the fascination with women being in men's jobs? I would have far less problems with warren than Clinton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted January 20, 2015 Unfortunately, that isn't what the nice guys said. And he was right. A large number of people collecting entitlements will keep voting for them. And Worms gets run out of another thread when caught in lies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted January 20, 2015 And Worms gets run out of another thread when caught in lies. Yeah, that's what happened Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted January 20, 2015 Yeah, that's what happened Yes, it is. You got caught lying about what Romney said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 20, 2015 I would have far less problems with warren than Clintonweren't you all wet and moist about the prospects of billary being president just a few months ago ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,567 Posted January 20, 2015 what wrong with hirrary? Scared of dominant woman? You seem to like when I make you scrub floor naked. No complaint from you as you serve me dinner and give pedicure. You just acting like big fan in front of internet friends? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted January 20, 2015 So there are a dozen R's in play, who else is there besides Hillary Clinton on the D side? What are the other options? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted January 20, 2015 So there are a dozen R's in play, who else is there besides Hillary Clinton on the D side? What are the other options? Fauxcahontas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 20, 2015 So there are a dozen R's in play, who else is there besides Hillary Clinton on the D side? What are the other options?Lizzy Warren, the fake Indian who lied to scam the affirmative action rules, and made 300k a year to lecture for 2 hours. You know the regular lady who has the middle class back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted January 20, 2015 Jeb Bush (or any Republican running) has a real opportunity to get my vote. The minute he starts pandering to the Tea Party fockchops, that's it for me. I want reasoned principles and ideas, not a competition to see who's the most fiscally and socially conservative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted January 20, 2015 Jeb Bush (or any Republican running) has a real opportunity to get my vote. The minute he starts pandering to the Tea Party fockchops, that's it for me. I want reasoned principles and ideas, not a competition to see who's the most fiscally and socially conservative. Yeah, cuz this country won't need any fiscal responsibility once Obama runs up $10 Trillion in debt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted January 20, 2015 Yeah, cuz this country won't need any fiscal responsibility once Obama runs up $10 Trillion in debt. No, what we really need is old white guys worrying about sharia law in Detroit, whether Obama's kids listen to Beyonce, and talking about God in science class. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted January 20, 2015 No, The debt means nothing to you. You are such a good little libtard lemming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted January 20, 2015 The debt means nothing to you. You are such a good little libtard lemming. I'm ready to hear Republican ideas, just like I've always been. Ideas trump right wing conservative rhetoric. Like I said in my post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted January 20, 2015 I'm ready to hear Republican ideas, just like I've always been. Ideas trump right wing conservative rhetoric. Like I said in my post. This is fukking hilarious coming from the guy who just posted this: No, what we really need is old white guys worrying about sharia law in Detroit, whether Obama's kids listen to Beyonce, and talking about God in science class. None of those things has anything to do with the duties of a POTUS. They are just left wing rhetoric from a radical lefty lemming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted January 20, 2015 This is fukking hilarious coming from the guy who just posted this: None of those things has anything to do with the duties of a POTUS. They are just left wing rhetoric from a radical lefty lemming. Jesus Christ, you're dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
