Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 25, 2018 The same Bredesen who was accused of covering up sexual assault allegations by having documents shredded? You're supporting a man who covers up for sexual assaulters and harassers. The same Bredesen that supports Kavanaugh hearing moving forward if Ford didn't testify? That means he thinks Kavanaugh wasn't lying under oath. Not assault allegations against him...and not covering them up. The government (while he was governor) accused of destroying documents into their own investigations into officials. A practice he also changed. He was never accused of any actual assault or harassment or actually covering up crimes...it was investigated with how many charges? I would support the hearing moving forward if Ford wouldn't testify. Seems to mean he thinks it can't really be investigated if the accuser isn't willing to testify. And just because I would support him over Blackburn...does not mean I agree with everything he does or ever has done even as governor or Mayor of Nashville. He also called Ford credible...and that he is embarrassed by the circus from both Rs and Ds. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whitehouse/senate-hopeful-in-tenn-embarrassed-by-kavanaugh-hearings/2018/09/12/f48be238-b6c3-11e8-ae4f-2c1439c96d79_story.html?utm_term=.784ef132e257 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 25, 2018 Wasn't bs at all. The left is targeting voters, and they have been absolutely clear who those voters are. White straight males need not apply. If we can't agree on that, then you need to start paying attention. You claiemed the left is attacking police. Shame men, shame white men, shame straight men...bullshit. Its your completely brainwashed version of things...again, you call me bot yet repeat that same lying crap from the far right. Its pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted September 25, 2018 Globalists on both sides of the Isle are the problem. "The Third Party" is also the problem.....non existent tools Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted September 25, 2018 Not assault allegations against him...and not covering them up. The government (while he was governor) accused of destroying documents into their own investigations into officials. A practice he also changed. He was never accused of any actual assault or harassment or actually covering up crimes...it was investigated with how many charges? I would support the hearing moving forward if Ford wouldn't testify. Seems to mean he thinks it can't really be investigated if the accuser isn't willing to testify. And just because I would support him over Blackburn...does not mean I agree with everything he does or ever has done even as governor or Mayor of Nashville. He also called Ford credible...and that he is embarrassed by the circus from both Rs and Ds. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whitehouse/senate-hopeful-in-tenn-embarrassed-by-kavanaugh-hearings/2018/09/12/f48be238-b6c3-11e8-ae4f-2c1439c96d79_story.html?utm_term=.784ef132e257 you know that anyone can accuse anyone of anything...right ? Accusations in themselves are meaningless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted September 25, 2018 Ben Sasse Not so gretta https://rense.com/general96/NBGOP.html Sasse's principal responsibility as proctor and tutor was the welfare of the pages, a job for which he failed miserably as seen by the number of pages who came forward with stories of molestation and sexual harassment from Foley and Kolbe. In 2006, as Foley came under investigation, the U.S. Attorney's Office in Arizona investigated Kolbe for a camping trip he took in July 1996 that included two underage male former congressional pages. Although cleared of any wrongdoing, Kolbe decided not to run for another term in 2006, although he was a shoo-in for re-election. Justice Department sources told WMR that in lieu of prosecution for inappropriate contact with the pages, Kolbe agreed to step down from the House. It is a known Justice Department procedure to ask law-breaking members to step down from Congress rather than engage in a sensitive prosecution where other factors, like Kolbe's homosexuality, are involved. The Justice Department decided not to seek a fraud indictment of Representative Bill Gray (D-PA), the first African-American Majority Whip in the House, and an Israeli espionage indictment of Representative Jane Harman (D-CA), because of the black and Jewish factors, respectively. Gray decided to resign from Congress in 1991 and Harman resigned in February 2011 just after her re-election. Sasse worked for the House Page program while obtaining his M.A. at St. John's of Annapolis. Sasse also faces another potential problem. He was chief of staff for the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Policy, headed by Jay Bybee, now a federal judge, when the department produced the infamous "torture memos" between 2003 and 2005. Sasse also coordinated the torture policy with John Yoo, the Deputy Assistant U.S. Attorney General in the Office of Legal Counsel. It is inconceivable that Sasse did not have direct input on the policy that concluded that detainees of the U.S. government, including U.S. citizens, could be subjected to "enhanced interrogation techniques," or simply, torture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted September 25, 2018 Globalists on both sides of the Isle are the problem. "The Third Party" is also the problem.....non existent tools So both the parties we have are the problem. And third parties, they're the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,381 Posted September 25, 2018 It seems to me that they have more embaced than embarrassed socialism Yea,I know it was a typo of sorts I mean if you're going to call out a typo you probably shouldn't fock it up either... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 25, 2018 you know that anyone can accuse anyone of anything...right ? Accusations in themselves are meaningless. Sure...which has zero to do with my post or crack's. Congrats on posting something extremely stupid and irrelevant to the discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Hand 482 Posted September 25, 2018 Sure...which has zero to do with my post or crack's. Congrats on posting something extremely stupid and irrelevant to the discussion. You are always so angry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted September 25, 2018 Not assault allegations against him...and not covering them up. The government (while he was governor) accused of destroying documents into their own investigations into officials. A practice he also changed. He was never accused of any actual assault or harassment or actually covering up crimes...it was investigated with how many charges? I would support the hearing moving forward if Ford wouldn't testify. Seems to mean he thinks it can't really be investigated if the accuser isn't willing to testify. And just because I would support him over Blackburn...does not mean I agree with everything he does or ever has done even as governor or Mayor of Nashville. He also called Ford credible...and that he is embarrassed by the circus from both Rs and Ds. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whitehouse/senate-hopeful-in-tenn-embarrassed-by-kavanaugh-hearings/2018/09/12/f48be238-b6c3-11e8-ae4f-2c1439c96d79_story.html?utm_term=.784ef132e257 After the investigation of Bredesen administration: "It found that Bredesens administration treated harassment allegations differently when they were directed at top political appointees, with investigators being directed to shred any documentation of the accusations". Two separate investigations found that documents were only shredded when the accused was a top official in Bredesens administration, not in other cases. In a review last year of 602 workplace harassment case files across all levels of state government, the AP reported that documents were shredded only in high-profile cases, the Associated Press reported. Back in 2005, a dozen years ago, The Tennessean noted two separate cases where documents were shredded of investigations of top Bredesen administration officials, despite the investigator being aware that such records were subject to public records requests. It was the second time in a year that Personnel Department General Counsel Kae Carpenter shredded notes from a sexual harassment investigation of a high-ranking administration official, The Tennessean reported back in 2005. These are proven cover ups by Bredesen administration. You're voting for a man who covered up for sexual assaulters and harassers. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://tennesseestar.com/2017/12/09/phil-bredesen-hit-over-record-of-covering-up-sexual-assault-allegations-one-day-after-announcing-senate-campaign/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjEssTBt9bdAhVCHzQIHYFTB_wQFjACegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw0lk1z6aa2rPCR3qQ3CVrST&cf=1 So no. No one accused him. He was complacent in covering up. He used his power to silence victims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,559 Posted September 25, 2018 Its not a big deal...its all bullshit from 90s anyway. I know you have a hard time figuring out why Trump doesnt p1ss me off. Ill keep trying to explain it to you but in the end, politics dont matter. I intend to remain your online friend even if we never agree on politics ever again. The haters do have a point though in that youre a stubborn SOB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted September 25, 2018 So both the parties we have are the problem. And third parties, they're the problem. They're ALSO the problem so sorry I didn't word that correctly......was preoccupied Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted September 25, 2018 Ben Sasse Everyone should watch that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 25, 2018 After the investigation of Bredesen administration: "It found that Bredesens administration treated harassment allegations differently when they were directed at top political appointees, with investigators being directed to shred any documentation of the accusations". Two separate investigations found that documents were only shredded when the accused was a top official in Bredesens administration, not in other cases. In a review last year of 602 workplace harassment case files across all levels of state government, the AP reported that documents were shredded only in high-profile cases, the Associated Press reported. Back in 2005, a dozen years ago, The Tennessean noted two separate cases where documents were shredded of investigations of top Bredesen administration officials, despite the investigator being aware that such records were subject to public records requests. It was the second time in a year that Personnel Department General Counsel Kae Carpenter shredded notes from a sexual harassment investigation of a high-ranking administration official, The Tennessean reported back in 2005. These are proven cover ups by Bredesen administration. You're voting for a man who covered up for sexual assaulters and harassers. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://tennesseestar.com/2017/12/09/phil-bredesen-hit-over-record-of-covering-up-sexual-assault-allegations-one-day-after-announcing-senate-campaign/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjEssTBt9bdAhVCHzQIHYFTB_wQFjACegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw0lk1z6aa2rPCR3qQ3CVrST&cf=1 So no. No one accused him. He was complacent in covering up. He used his power to silence victims. Ive read all of it...Im well aware of what the allegations are and what the investigations determined.Im also aware of who and what Marsha Blackburn is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted September 25, 2018 Ive read all of it...Im well aware of what the allegations are and what the investigations determined. Im also aware of who and what Marsha Blackburn is. So you're ok with voting for a man who used his office/power to silence sexual assault victims? You're ok with voting for a man who used his office/power to protect sexual predators? Seems kinda hypocritical, no? Plus he believed Kavanaugh must have been honest during his testimony, or he wouldn't have asked for it to continue. Another complete opposite of your view. You believe Kavanaugh lied while being questioned, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 25, 2018 So you're ok with voting for a man who used his office/power to silence sexual assault victims? You're ok with voting for a man who used his office/power to protect sexual predators? Seems kinda hypocritical, no? Plus he believed Kavanaugh must have been honest during his testimony, or he wouldn't have asked for it to continue. Another complete opposite of your view. You believe Kavanaugh lied while being questioned, right? You are trying hard to play gotcha...also to completely ignore all he has said about Kav and Ford. None of it is opposite my view. Also the difference between being the one accused of assault and possible lies being up for the SC and being up for the Senate against a vile person like Marsha Blackburn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted September 25, 2018 You are trying hard to play gotcha...also to completely ignore all he has said about Kav and Ford. None of it is opposite my view. Also the difference between being the one accused of assault and possible lies being up for the SC and being up for the Senate against a vile person like Marsha Blackburn. Unpack that please. Why is it ok to use ones power to cover up for sexual predators? No gotcha. Just want to know why it's ok to vote for a man who (provenly) covered for abusers of women? That makes him complacent, or worse, just doesn't care, in assaulting of women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 25, 2018 Unpack that please. Why is it ok to use ones power to cover up for sexual predators? No gotcha. Just want to know why it's ok to vote for a man who (provenly) covered for abusers of women? That makes him complacent, or worse, just doesn't care, in assaulting of women. He covered up the investigations into possible abuse...we get it...and bs its not some gotcha...tire pissed at my stance on Kav so you looked at this. Im not happy with that about him...I wont defend what his administration did. I find there are differences between that and Kav and I take into account how awful I know Blackburn is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted September 25, 2018 He covered up the investigations into possible abuse...we get it...and bs its not some gotcha...tire pissed at my stance on Kav so you looked at this. Im not happy with that about him...I wont defend what his administration did. I find there are differences between that and Kav and I take into account how awful I know Blackburn is. Ok. See. Fair enough. You'll overlook his abuse of power to silence victims of sexual assault, in order to vote against Blackburn. You're ok with giving him law making powers to stifle victims. He'll fit right in. He can use the slush fund if elected. Party over abuse of power and victim rights. . You could've just said that at the beginning. You don't care enough about the cover up and victims, but will vote for him anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 25, 2018 You claiemed the left is attacking police. Shame men, shame white men, shame straight men...bullshit. Its your completely brainwashed version of things...again, you call me bot yet repeat that same lying crap from the far right. Its pathetic The left is targeting voters. Disaffected sad sacks and foreigners are at the top of the list. Their platform is all about making these people angry at white straight males. That is all they have. The fact that you are clueless to it, doesn't make it less true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 25, 2018 Its not about her party...its specifically about her. Just as my primary vote against her and Diane Black were about them...not party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 25, 2018 The left is targeting voters. Disaffected sad sacks and foreigners are at the top of the list. Their platform is all about making these people angry at white straight males. That is all they have. The fact that you are clueless to it, doesn't make it less true. No they target voters...just as Trump and the GOP keep targeting the dumbest of the dumb whonstill believe their lies. There is nothing in any platform about making people angry at straight white males...that isnt fact its your brainwashed opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted September 25, 2018 Its not about her party...its specifically about her. Just as my primary vote against her and Diane Black were about them...not party. Yes, I get it. You are specifically voting for a guy who abused his power to silence victims and protect predators over Blackburn. Hopefully he won't put more predators around him if he wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted September 25, 2018 a morally corrupt genderless pervert socialist utopia 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted September 25, 2018 Yes, I get it. You are specifically voting for a guy who abused his power to silence victims and protect predators over Blackburn. Hopefully he won't put more predators around him if he wins. I don't believe the bolded is accurately describing it. No. Have a nice day. Time to cut down a couple trees out back while its not actually raining for once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted September 25, 2018 My guess is.....Argentina.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted September 25, 2018 a morally corrupt genderless pervert socialist utopia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackattack 513 Posted September 25, 2018 I don't believe the bolded is accurately describing it. No. Have a nice day. Time to cut down a couple trees out back while its not actually raining for once. That's what 2.....2 investigation found. His administration, which means his leadership, or by his order, destroyed evidence covering up for high ranking people in his cabinet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted September 25, 2018 I was going to respond with a hyperbole, but i see that everyone else in this thread beat me to it. Instead I will respond with a parabola. _,..--'"" _,..-'"" _,..-'" _,.-'" _.-'" _.-" .-' .' / ; ; \ `. `-. "-._ "`-._ "`-.,_ "`-..,_ ""`-..,_ ""`--..,_ ""`--..,__ you suck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 264 Posted September 25, 2018 Probably to get jackholes to make lists of fake things onlow rent message boreds Where you spend your entire life you loser 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted September 25, 2018 You claiemed the left is attacking police. Shame men, shame white men, shame straight men...bullshit. Its your completely brainwashed version of things...again, you call me bot yet repeat that same lying crap from the far right. Its pathetic. This post is Priceless! The best slave is one who thinks he is free.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,647 Posted September 25, 2018 This post is Priceless! The best slave is one who thinks he is free.... Wait, Slonuff said the left aren't attacking the police? Jesus Christ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites