Private school for the kids.

[TD Ryan2 314]

The right public school system is a fine option for most kids.

 

The problem, of course, is that well funded, highly effective public schools are becoming more rare with each passing year.

 

and buying a home in any of those communities is financially unreasonable for most families.

education and real estate... it's amazing how closely they are tied and scary to think about both bubbles popping at once.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

The right public school system is a fine option for most kids.

 

The problem, of course, is that well funded, highly effective public schools are becoming more rare with each passing year.

Montgomery County, where I live, the resources are going to pay for lunches, care and education for the steady stream of immigrants. We are on the hook for every kid under the age of 21 who does not have a HS diploma, and none do. We are getting 2k+ more kids each year. Latinos outnumber whites and blacks and are the official majority of students. They were behind blacks in 2009. Nearly 1/3 of students get free meals, nearly double 10 years ago. 22K do not speak english. Well funded? Doesn't matter. It matters where the funds go. Can you imagine what the dire consequences would be if the 50K kids who went to private school, suddenly showed up one day?

[mmmmm...beer 691]

The right public school system is a fine option for most kids.

 

The problem, of course, is that well funded, highly effective public schools are becoming more rare with each passing year.

This. The public school system locally is known to be good. So.. everyone and their grandma moved here and are continuing to move here. The middle school is bursting at the seems and needs another school badly. 35-40 kids a class... to 1 teacher and maybe an aid? The District is getting pummeled with new student enrollment and the coffers/infrastructure haven't caught up.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,916]

 

I just think public school and what you got out of it...is much more valuable in the real world for the average American. Most people are going to see chaos in their lives at a few different points. People are going to need a common understanding of how things go and how people can react (street smarts). Again if the public school choices suck then I see where any parent would try to get them out of there.

 

 

What's valuable in the real world is a better education. If a person can afford to send their kids to private school, they should. Better structure, better discipline, they are held to higher standards, and are held accountable.

 

My kid has been in Catholic School since preschool. Worth every penny. The public school system here is horrendous. They aren't really schools anymore. They're baby sitting most of the kids and the ones that want to learn don't get the attention they need. I used to fawk a lot of teachers before I got married. The ones who worked for private schools were much happier even though they were paid less.

 

I have a friend who was a recruiter for the military. All branches. He knew within one minute of meeting a kid who wanted to enlist if they went to public or private school. Even the best public schools aren't on the same level as most Catholic schools.

[MDC 5,891]

Even the best public schools aren't on the same level as most Catholic schools.

That may be true in NO but it's not true everywhere. Not even here in Philly where the school district is awful.

[jerryskids 5,205]

I think the benefits of private school are more pronounced in grade and middle school. For HS, if your kids are in advanced classes you need to look at how that group performs, not the whole school.

 

It's sad going to Meet the Teacher night at a large HS; if you go to meet a teacher for an Honors class, most of the parents are there. For "regular," maybe 3 parents bother to show. That's not a coincidence.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,916]

That may be true in NO but it's not true everywhere. Not even here in Philly where the school district is awful.

 

 

Why is that? Why would anybody pay for school if they were just as bad?

[penultimatestraw 473]

If you have the finances to send your kid to a good private school you do it. Read some of the idiotic posts in this thread and you will see what a public education does to people.

About half my group of ~50 physicians are public school educated, including me. In this very skewed group, I can't tell the difference between private- and public-educated.

[MDC 5,891]

 

 

Why is that? Why would anybody pay for school if they were just as bad?

No idea. I do know here in Philly I send my son to Catholic because the local public elementary is mediocre, but I would absolutely send him to an elite public high like Masterman or Central than private.

 

Private schools here are basically for kids who are in the wrong catchment or don't grade into the best public schools. More often the parents move to NJ where the public schools are mostly very good.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

elite public high like Masterman or Central than private.

Elite, but hardly public.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,916]

No idea. I do know here in Philly I send my son to Catholic because the local public elementary is mediocre, but I would absolutely send him to an elite public high like Masterman or Central than private.

 

Private schools here are basically for kids who are in the wrong catchment or don't grade into the best public schools. More often the parents move to NJ where the public schools are mostly very good.

 

Are those public charter schools? We have public charter schools here that aren't bad. But you have to test into them.

[MDC 5,891]

Elite, but hardly public.

Masterman and Central in Philly are both public.

[MDC 5,891]

 

Are those public charter schools? We have public charter schools here that aren't bad. But you have to test into them.

They are public magnets - you have to test in. There are maybe 7-8 public high schools in Philly I would send a kid to over any Catholic here.

[BunnysBastatrds 1,916]

They are public magnets - you have to test in. There are maybe 7-8 public high schools in Philly I would send a kid to over any Catholic here.

 

We call them charter schools. They are better here also, but still not on the level of Catholic high schools. They focus primarily on math and science.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Masterman and Central in Philly are both public.

They are free. In that respect, they are public. People do not "send" their children there. They bust their asses for years and hope they get lucky come selection time.

[MDC 5,891]

They are free. In that respect, they are public.

That and the fact that they are part of the Philadelphia public school district and therefore available only to city residents. Like I said they are public.

[MDC 5,891]

 

We call them charter schools. They are better here also, but still not on the level of Catholic high schools. They focus primarily on math and science.

Here in Philly most Catholics go k-8. The Quaker / Friends schools have a better rep. Mostly parents move to Jersey.

[penultimatestraw 473]

Why is that? Why would anybody pay for school if they were just as bad?

Because there is status in saying your kid goes to a private school, and stigma for attending public schools in some areas.

 

People pay too much for many things for the same reasons.

[mmmmm...beer 691]

Because there is status in saying your kid goes to a private school, and stigma for attending public schools in some areas.

 

People pay too much for many things for the same reasons.

Meh... thats stupid, but I understand your point. Same sort that buy shiny new Tesla sportscars and send their kids to private school.

 

 

Jokes... :

[mmmmm...beer 691]

Just doing some latin vocab they emailed.. holy smokes I got half of the words we studied tonight just from the english words they turned into. Pretty cool. This might not be too rough... albeit its the 1st day! Haha

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Just doing some latin vocab they emailed.. holy smokes I got half of the words we studied tonight just from the english words they turned into. Pretty cool. This might not be too rough... albeit its the 1st day! Haha

The hard part is the grammar. As I recall from high school, each noun is one of three genders. Masculine, feminine, or neuter. And each verb has a bunch of tenses. There is something called the pluperfect tense as I recall.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

My kids aren't really smart, so why waste the dough on a good education for them?

[kilroy69 994]

I had to go to private school in the 3rd grade after I was expelled.

[MDC 5,891]

I had to go to private school in the 3rd grade after I was expelled.

Let me guess: You focked the teacher?

[Voltaire 4,558]

My kids aren't really smart, so why waste the dough on a good education for them?

That's the spirit.

 

When I was home i was talking to my cousin about her son. He is/was a local hotshot hockey star, a big strong defensive defenseman that loves roughhouse play. A net traffic cleanup specialist/lawnmower-on-ice type of kid good for penalty kills and a hard slapshot from the point. Scouts came out to watch him and everyone suspected he'd be drafted into the OHL (he subsequently was).

 

So kids like him they get drafted at fifteen and have to leave home to live with sponsor families who the teams arrange, they go to really good high schools where they get lots of academic assistance provided by the teams and they play hockey.

 

So I think this is a sweet deal. I tell my cousin that even if the NHL never does come calling, he can almost surely still get a full ride scholarship to attend plenty of universities. She tells me straight up that isn't happening. The kid hates school and if hockey doesn't work out for him, he'll join (his uncle/her brother) in the oil fields in northern Alberta.

[DankNuggs 305]

The hard part is the grammar. As I recall from high school, each noun is one of three genders. Masculine, feminine, or neuter. And each verb has a bunch of tenses. There is something called the pluperfect tense as I recall.

A ae ae am long a, ae arum is as is

[kilroy69 994]

Let me guess: You focked the teacher?

Focked the teacher over. She was a racist bitchh. I hated her so much. She was overtly racist and I terrorized her for it. The last straw was one day she was bragging about her new shoes. Dude they were focking ugly. Made of suede leather and she was talking about how much they cost. She saw my buddy and I talking and moved us. We waited till she left the room to go talk to her teacher friend and grabbed some elmers glue. We hid on both sides of the door and when she came back in we unloaded on her new shoes.

 

I ended up having to go to Piedmont Academy where I had Trisha Yearwoods mom as my 3rd grade teacher.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

That's the spirit.

 

When I was home i was talking to my cousin about her son. He is/was a local hotshot hockey star, a big strong defensive defenseman that loves roughhouse play. A net traffic cleanup specialist/lawnmower-on-ice type of kid good for penalty kills and a hard slapshot from the point. Scouts came out to watch him and everyone suspected he'd be drafted into the OHL (he subsequently was).

 

So kids like him they get drafted at fifteen and have to leave home to live with sponsor families who the teams arrange, they go to really good high schools where they get lots of academic assistance provided by the teams and they play hockey.

 

So I think this is a sweet deal. I tell my cousin that even if the NHL never does come calling, he can almost surely still get a full ride scholarship to attend plenty of universities. She tells me straight up that isn't happening. The kid hates school and if hockey doesn't work out for him, he'll join (his uncle/her brother) in the oil fields in northern Alberta.

 

I have a good friend who has 2 kids that went that route for hockey. Both had received full boats to Notre Dame by the end of their sophomore year of HS. They lived in a town that had really good public schools, but they did their first 2 years of HS at a premium private school in the area.

 

The public schools in our state are generally pretty good. I think that they are the highest rated. However, not all schools are the same. I wanted us to move a town over because the public HS in that town is one of the best around, but the wife is not for it.

 

The big thing in schools is whether your kids is mature enough to handle it. I have a neighbor whose daughter went private and she is on Year 6 of an average state college with lots of swapped majors and she is not going to finish anytime soon. I also have another neighbor whose daughter who went to our town's public school and she is going to be done with her bachelors and masters in 4 years with great grades at a great school. It matters what you do with the education and how mature you are to take on that challenge. That happens at home and not in the school, I think.

[mmmmm...beer 691]

Yup I agree, every kid is an individual. I came from a little school in ND that didn't teach me sh!t for math and science, but preservered through colludge and am doing semi decent for myself.

 

Still want them to have a better than average shot if I can give it to them.

 

It's up to them to strive or not, but we'll be there to support, encourage, and slap em around in all things anyway.

[tanatastic 2,061]

I had to go to private school in the 3rd grade after I was expelled.

Ok I need the story now.

[kilroy69 994]

Ok I need the story now.

couple posts up. I was a really really bad kid. An illustration of what happens in a messy divorce to kids.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,643]

On 7/25/2017 at 9:22 AM, MDC said:

I really like Catholic school for my son. It is very inexpensive as compared to a Friends school or non religious private, the principal and teachers are engaged, great group of parents and good kids. Very little tolerance for misbehavior etc.

 

Long term we will move to a town with a better public school district but for now I am really happy with our choice.

Is it long term yet? How come city boy is planning on fleeing to the suburbs? 

[MDC 5,891]

Rent free 24/7/365. Includes XMas.  

[Hardcore troubadour 12,643]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

Rent free 24/7/365. Includes XMas.  

Ha ha! See you at the Olive Garden! Kids love the breadsticks! 

[Gladiators 1,904]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Is it long term yet? How come city boy is planning on fleeing to the suburbs?