edjr 5,596 Posted January 23, 2019 There is something to be said about that. I only get my rocks off when Nia Jax is on the screen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted January 23, 2019 Thank god, abortion is the greatest thing ever. Saved me from having 3 kids with irresponsible chicks who lie about taking their pill on time. You guys really want countless more ghetto babies walking around? We need population control, not another boom. Any kid of mine would never be a ghetto baby. I have one, and she is happy and self reliant and successful. I didn't need to be saved from deceiving garbage ghetto women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,655 Posted January 23, 2019 That's stupid. Can you imagine a little baby liver trying to make it through the first half hour in shotsup? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted January 23, 2019 There is something to be said about that. For sure. Probably catches all the latest PPV, knows all the tidbits that Joe Rogan spewing and a cycle of 10 or so Affliction shirts that he wears on the weekend. Baby blue one if its a special date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,771 Posted January 23, 2019 Im pointing out how it isnt different morally just legally. Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 23, 2019 Democrats are so focking stupid. Lets kill babies but mass murderers should not be put to death. Focking idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 23, 2019 Should be able to kill them at any age if their parents can't afford them You should know! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,596 Posted January 23, 2019 For sure. Probably catches all the latest PPV, knows all the tidbits that Joe Rogan spewing and a cycle of 10 or so Affliction shirts that he wears on the weekend. Baby blue one if its a special date. you're batting worse than Mariano Rivera at the plate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,655 Posted January 23, 2019 Something tells me that porky wildly misrepresented what the passage of this bill actually means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 23, 2019 You should know! Wonder how little ed II is doing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 23, 2019 Woohooo!!!! Can we start with all illegal immigrants? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,906 Posted January 23, 2019 Woohooo!!!! Can we start with all illegal immigrants? Do we have to shove them inside some woman's belly first? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted January 23, 2019 you're batting worse than Mariano Rivera at the plate So my comment was HOF worthy? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 864 Posted January 23, 2019 Something tells me that porky wildly misrepresented what the passage of this bill actually means. please enlighten me. did i miss the part where cuomo did this right after march for life to be a pompous asshat? lighting up bridges and buildings to celebrate it? focking dooshbag of the highest order. even your sh;thle 3rd world countries don't allow abortion after 20 weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted January 23, 2019 Just curious, do people realize there are medical reasons why an abortion is necessary well after 5 months for the mother's health and the baby has 0 chance of survival post birth? Should it be that law forces somebody to carry a non viable pregnancy to term at there own risk? I have a very close friend who had this happen to her and her husband and there is no describing the the heartbreak they felt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted January 23, 2019 Just curious, do people realize there are medical reasons why an abortion is necessary well after 5 months for the mother's health and the baby has 0 chance of survival post birth? Should it be that law forces somebody to carry a non viable pregnancy to term at there own risk? No this is 100% okay. If theres a medical risk of course an abortion would be necessary. Just against people getting them just because they are irresponsible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 23, 2019 Just curious, do people realize there are medical reasons why an abortion is necessary well after 5 months for the mother's health and the baby has 0 chance of survival post birth? Should it be that law forces somebody to carry a non viable pregnancy to term at there own risk? I have a very close friend who had this happen to her and her husband and there is no describing the the heartbreak they felt They don't care. They think that there are evil doctors just turning out abortions and that these wimmens use abortion as birth control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 23, 2019 So my comment was HOF worthy? Thanks Mariano Rivera was 0-3 in his career batting (a.k.a. "at the plate"). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 23, 2019 Just curious, do people realize there are medical reasons why an abortion is necessary well after 5 months for the mother's health and the baby has 0 chance of survival post birth? Should it be that law forces somebody to carry a non viable pregnancy to term at there own risk? I have a very close friend who had this happen to her and her husband and there is no describing the the heartbreak they felt totally cool with that, is there a % that fall into that category? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,055 Posted January 23, 2019 No this is 100% okay. If theres a medical risk of course an abortion would be neccisary. Just against people getting them just because they are irresponsible. The irresponsible also don't make the best parents or incubators for fetuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 864 Posted January 23, 2019 They don't care. They think that there are evil doctors just turning out abortions and that these wimmens use abortion as birth control. like kermit gosnell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,085 Posted January 23, 2019 Just curious, do people realize there are medical reasons why an abortion is necessary well after 5 months for the mother's health and the baby has 0 chance of survival post birth? Should it be that law forces somebody to carry a non viable pregnancy to term at there own risk? I have a very close friend who had this happen to her and her husband and there is no describing the the heartbreak they felt I thought theres always been provisions in those remote cases? Anyway that is not what New Yorks new law is about anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted January 23, 2019 totally cool with that, is there a % that fall into that category? Don't know, I'd be willing to compromise that x weeks requires risk of life. I'd say that is fair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,771 Posted January 23, 2019 totally cool with that, is there a % that fall into that category? Crickets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,771 Posted January 23, 2019 Don't know, I'd be willing to compromise that x weeks requires risk of life. I'd say that is fair Risk of life sure. But now it's the mothers" health". That can mean anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted January 23, 2019 I thought theres always been provisions in those remote cases? Anyway that is not what New Yorks new law is about anyway. I know but there is a great failure to realize the situations exist. It's just blah blah blah wants a late term abortion because they are dumb and lazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 23, 2019 Crickets I don't think 5 minutes is adequate time before you say "crickets". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,771 Posted January 23, 2019 I don't think 5 minutes is adequate time before you say "crickets". Still haven't gotten a percentage, which was what he asked for. Crickets indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted January 23, 2019 I'll admit I have no clue if they keep statistics on reason for late term abortion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,771 Posted January 23, 2019 I know but there is a great failure to realize the situations exist. It's just blah blah blah wants a late term abortion because they are dumb and lazy Who doesn't know they exist? Stop the nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 23, 2019 totally cool with that, is there a % that fall into that category? Not sure what that number is, but here is one stat that is relevant for the discussion https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/10/27/how-many-late-term-abortions-are-really-performed-in-the-united-states/ Of the 699,202 abortions reported to the CDC in 2012, 0.17% were at or after 21 weeks and occurred in a state where it was possible to have a post viability abortion for any reason. ... Further down Whatever your views on choice support your side with accurate statistics. There are obviously very few late-term (post 24 week) pregnancy terminations in the United States. Most of the 1.3% of abortions at or after 21 weeks are for anomalies and the vast majority are before 24 weeks. There are approximately 600 abortions a year after 24 weeks and most are for fetal anomalies. Less than 10 minutes HT/RP. Crickets my ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,134 Posted January 23, 2019 The irresponsible also don't make the best parents or incubators for fetuses. Okay, lets kill them instead. Go right to the source. Killing a dumbfock of an adult weights far less on my concious than a child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 23, 2019 They don't care. They think that there are evil doctors just turning out abortions and that these wimmens use abortion as birth control. Wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,085 Posted January 23, 2019 Not sure what that number is, but here is one stat that is relevant for the discussion https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/10/27/how-many-late-term-abortions-are-really-performed-in-the-united-states/ Further down Less than 10 minutes HT/RP. Crickets my ass. If its that small of a percentage why do we need a bill to change it from 20 to 24 weeks? Since laws vary somewhat from state to state, I looked at my state (North Carolina). We are one of the most stringent in abortion laws however even then: North Carolina abortion laws are relatively restrictive, requiring the written consent of parents or guardians, banning abortion after 20 weeks (except to save the life or health of the mother), and the requirement that abortion providers be licensed medical doctors. All of this sounds very reasonable. Consent for pregnant children. 20 weeks (5 MONTHS) is plenty of time and by your own CDC link represents 99.83% of abortions, and there is language around even after 20 weeks for the life/health of mother provisions. I'm sure New York had even more liberal state laws in regards. Why was all this needed in NYC? Why go to 24 weeks? Why open it up even further after 24 weeks? Why let non licensed medical doctors perform abortions? Seems weird. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,917 Posted January 23, 2019 I like how the anti welfare state crowd wants irresponsible poor people to have more kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,906 Posted January 23, 2019 I like how the anti welfare state crowd wants irresponsible poor people to have more kids. Exactly. If they could kill their baby, they'd become productive members of society. But if they have that kid, they're forever doomed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,771 Posted January 23, 2019 I love welfare. Keep it coming. But just for Americans, not illegals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,085 Posted January 23, 2019 I like how the personal responsibility crowd wants irresponsible poor people to be more responsible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 23, 2019 If its that small of a percentage why do we need a bill to change it from 20 to 24 weeks? Since laws vary somewhat from state to state, I looked at my state (North Carolina). We are one of the most stringent in abortion laws however even then: All of this sounds very reasonable. Consent from children. 20 weeks (5 MONTHS) is plenty of time and by your own CDC link represents 99.83% of abortions, and there is language around even after 20 weeks for the life/health of mother provisions. I'm sure New York had even more liberal state laws in regards. Why was all this needed in NTC? Why go to 24 weeks? Why open it up even further after 24 weeks? Why let non licensed medical doctors perform abortions? Seems weird. You are talking to the wrong guy. If your assertion is that abortion should be legal: - for all people prior to 20 weeks - Consent by parents for minors seeking abortion - performed by doctors - in cases after 20 weeks for the safety/life of the mother then you will not get any argument from me. I think that you know by 20 weeks whether you want an abortion, unless there is a health issue after that fact. However, some states are looking to make it illegal across the board. That is what I am against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,085 Posted January 23, 2019 You are talking to the wrong guy. If your assertion is that abortion should be legal: - for all people prior to 20 weeks - Consent by parents for minors seeking abortion - performed by doctors - in cases after 20 weeks for the safety/life of the mother then you will not get any argument from me. I think that you know by 20 weeks whether you want an abortion, unless there is a health issue after that fact. However, some states are looking to make it illegal across the board. That is what I am against. The thread is about the new New York law and bill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites