is this racist?

[wiffleball 4,797]

The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know ... there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way.” - Barack Obama

 

 

 

So, Obama's on record as saying that all Black churches say essentially the same thing as Pastor Wrights's midwest madrassa. - Which is patently absurd and horribly racist.

 

He's on board as saying that only the black church talks about social injustice. - Which is patently absurd and horribly racist.

 

And now, he's using the term "typical white person"? WTF? Can you imagine the negro wailing if McCain said something about "The typical black person?"

 

What a POS.

[TheNewGirl 1,632]

Yes.

[phillybear 366]

Depends on intent, 100%.

[kilroy69 1,265]

Its a well known fact that blacks can't be racist. HTH

[KSB2424 3,172]

Don't you know that black people cannot be racist. It is unpossible.

 

ETA: must type faster

[surferskin 30]

Its a well known fact that blacks can't be racist. HTH

AHHHH but he's only 1/2 black.

[The Moz 71]

What is McCain just uttered " Negro " publicly

[kilroy69 1,265]

AHHHH but he's only 1/2 black.

So am I. I am black from the waist down, white from the wallet up.

[dain11279 980]

[wiffleball 4,797]

AHHHH but he's only 1/2 black.

 

Yeah, but he gets the full on "black pass"

[KSB2424 3,172]

AHHHH but he's only 1/2 black.

Being black is like being gay. Either you are or you aren't!

[peenie 1,945]

it's only racist if it's untrue. is it?

it's not racist to say that the typical black child is born to a single unwed mother.

it may sting but it's certainly true.

i don't think what obama said is racist as that is human behavior.

passing any group of young men that are unfamiliar to you makes you nervous especially if you're a woman.

maybe as a black person less so when seeing other blacks because we're better able to distinguish who is a threat or not.

it's been my experience that a guy who looks like this will make a white person nervous just because they can't differentiate between criminal and avid hip hop follower.

[KSB2424 3,172]

it's only racist if it's untrue.

This is not going to end well. :duckandcover:

[wiffleball 4,797]

it's only racist if it's untrue. is it?

it's not racist to say that the typical black child is born to a single unwed mother.

 

...And if John McCain said this, his career would be over.

[peenie 1,945]

...And if John McCain said this, his career would be over.

but white people say that all the time. no one has a problem with that, it's usually what comes after it that is the problem.

there was some guy who said that the typical black child is born to an unwed mother and many grow up in poverty and many become criminals so therefore if you abort those children you'll reduce crime.

he deserved to be criticized because the problem isn't the unwed mother part, it's saying you should abort these children.

also crime isn't directly linked to single motherhood, it's more linked to poverty but poverty is not directly linked to crime.

anyway....you get my drift.

[wiffleball 4,797]

but white people say that all the time. no one has a problem with that, it's usually what comes after it that is the problem.

 

Find me a quote where any white celebrity or office holder or seeker has said that and not been given one hell of a ration of shiit. I note that you still haven't addressed my Trent Lott post in the earlier thread. It's a direct example of how a white senator is held to a higher moral standard than a black senator. Tell me that if Don Imus or Bill McCain didn't use the words "Typical black person" - even in the most ebulient fashion, they wouldn't be thoroughly lambasted for their "racist terminology".

[kilroy69 1,265]

it's only racist if it's untrue. is it?

So its ok to say that black people can't be quiet at a movie theater? That its against their nature? Its not racist because its true.

[peenie 1,945]

So its ok to say that black people can't be quiet at a movie theater? That its against their nature? Its not racist because its true.

come on, we've had that argument. you know black people fo sho can't be quiet in theaters, you know it and i know it.

[Brown Eyed Girl 1]

Racist? Yes.

[redtodd 7]

It absolutely is because of the use of the word "typical." He is implying that all white people act in the way that he describes his grandma.

[peenie 1,945]

i'd argue that his statement that his grandmother is a typical white person is a generalization not racist one.

do you need me to define what racist is cause obviously you all don't seem to know.

 

edit removed because...who cares about my long rant.

[Strike 5,967]

do you need me to define what racist is cause obviously you all don't seem to know.

 

You know, you might have a point here, since there aren't a lot of racists here besides you. I guess that makes you extremely qualified to explain what the word means.

[phillybear 366]

i'd argue that his statement that his grandmother is a typical white person is a generalization not racist one.

 

While I don't think the statement is racist, I do think it is condesending.

 

I support Obama and Granny Obama in excersizing their free speech. Kudos. But Obama threw his granny under the bus to get votes. Seems kind of creepy. One side of his family should be righteously pissed off. But that's just me.

[Savage Beast 1]

So am I. I am black from the waist down, white from the wallet up.

 

[kilroy69 1,265]

i'd argue that his statement that his grandmother is a typical white person is a generalization not racist one.

do you need me to define what racist is cause obviously you all don't seem to know.

 

eta,

and i like it how everyone is pretending like white people aren't scared as fck of black men. there is not one single black man that i know that doesn't have a story or 3 or 10 about how white people overreacted negatively toward them. my ex was a darn bank manager and the police came in and accused him of stealing some white lady's purse. she couldn't find it and said he took it. she actually left it at home, but no one called to apologize. walking in his own neighborhood both in marina del ray california and canton georgia the police have been called to see who he was. man....y'all are on crack! i'm not even going to argue this point. some white folks have no problem with blacks, but most are scared. that's reality. hey, who can blame you, blacks are all over the news as criminals, we're looking fiercesome in rap videos, it's male black behavior to be macho, it's understandable. to deny it just so you can say obama is a racist, is keeping us from being real with one another.

I understand where you would be p!ssed if you were a law abiding black man and were getting sh!t. However I look at it the same as we look at terrorists(i am not comparing black men to terrorists btw). People of Middle Eastern descent b!tch about being looked at like terrorists however you don't see any other race of people blowing themselves up. People look at black men that way because of what they see on TV. Black men commiting crimes left and right. What reason would an old white lady feel any different?

[Homestar Runner 0]

So its ok to say that black people can't be quiet at a movie theater? That its against their nature? Its not racist because its true.

 

are the black people in question your grandparents?

 

-->also, i think you used this analogy before and i said you should check out all the pale black people in east london movie theaters. they can't shut the fock up either. i think you need a new analogy.... or some black friends.

[jerryskids 7,041]

I just wanted to say that peenie is my favorite black female poster. And I mean that in the lease racist way.

[kilroy69 1,265]

are the black people in question your grandparents?

 

-->also, i think you used this analogy before and i said you should check out all the pale black people in east london movie theaters. they can't shut the fock up either. i think you need a new analogy.... or some black friends.

I have black friends. I could not go to my school and NOT have them.And its a running joke about how black people cant be quiet in a movie theater. They know it, I know it, peenie knows it. It appears you are the one who does not know it.

 

BTW seeing as I have not been to any east london movie theaters I can not comment. However seeing as how I have been to the movies in dozens of states here in the good ol US and have found what I am saying to be true I think I will just stick with my analogy. Thanks though.

[jerryskids 7,041]

I have black friends. I could not go to my school and NOT have them.And its a running joke about how black people cant be quiet in a movie theater.

How old are you?

[Me_2006 14]

Yes, it's racist.

 

kudos to peenie for actually keeping her cool so far and discussing this whole thing rationally.

 

 

Btw, how many more apologies are gonna be needed for Obama? You'd think this many explanations being required so far would tell voters all they needed to know.

[kilroy69 1,265]

How old are you?

What kind of question is that. Does that have something to do with the fact that my black friends and I joke about the fact blacks can't be quiet in a theater? Because we also joke about white peoples nasal accents. Its not like this is something that I made up. I went to watch a spoken word poet named shehan not to long ago. He was half spoken word half comic. He made a few jokes about the same issue and everyone laughed because not only is it funny but its one of those funny thuths.

 

 

I am 31 BTW.

[peenie 1,945]

I went to watch a spoken word poet named shehan not to long ago.

omg! i love him! this is my favorite shihan poem.

[kilroy69 1,265]

omg! i love him! this is my favorite shihan poem.

He did that one and got a pretty good response.

 

He did this one too.

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VkM5fFs9ZA0&...feature=related

 

 

And this one

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vdaaO6lqBok&...feature=related

 

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eCxJj9OSLOU&...feature=related

 

this one is really good too.

 

 

 

He is a really nice guy.

[naomi 360]

While I don't think the statement is racist, I do think it is condesending.

 

I support Obama and Granny Obama in excersizing their free speech. Kudos. But Obama threw his granny under the bus to get votes. Seems kind of creepy. One side of his family should be righteously pissed off. But that's just me.

Agree.

[RLLD 4,275]

Its a well known fact that blacks can't be racist. HTH

 

Thread over. Remember, the most racist people on this planet are of African decent, but they are somehow the only ones who can claim to be victims of racism; I know, it makes no logical sense, but its just the way it is

[gocolts 300]

and i like it how everyone is pretending like white people aren't scared as fck of black men. there is not one single black man that i know that doesn't have a story or 3 or 10 about how white people overreacted negatively toward them.

It could have something to do with this.Gang of Black People Viciously Attack Whites for No Reason NSFW

[gocolts 300]

Its a well known fact that blacks can't be racist. HTH

I heard Bill O'Reilly talk about this late last night on his Radio Show.

 

Joy Behar Reveals: Obama Isn't Racist

 

It turns out Barack Obama and his demagogic pastor Jeremiah Wright aren't racists after all. They hate Whitey, all right — as Reverend Wrong makes abundantly clear in his sermons, and Obama through his choice of associations and in his book Dreams from My Father. But it's not racist to hate white people. Take it from ABC's noted philosopher Joy Behar:

 

[W]hen I was in college, I studied sociology. And what we learned is that racism is an institutional thing. It's not like, it's something that goes from the top down. In other words it's not something- if somebody is- you can't be racist if you're in the oppressed minority. It goes the other direction. The majority is racist to the oppressed minority.

 

I have heard peenie say that some blacks are self hating blacks

 

So I guess this stupid biatch(Joy Behar, not peenie) is a self hating white. Or is that not possible either in fantasy land???

[kilroy69 1,265]

I heard Bill O'Reilly talk about this late last night on his Radio Show.

I have heard peenie say that some blacks are self hating blacks

 

So I guess this stupid biatch(Joy Behar, not peenie) is a self hating white. Or is that not possible either in fantasy land???

What a focking retard.She talks out her ASSS all the time.

[buffalobillsffl2003 0]

Wait!

 

He's rippin on his grandmama after she raised the half-wit cause Daddymama fled the continent???

 

[wiffleball 4,797]

What's really disconcerting is that the same guy that has no problem pointing out his negro-fearing grandmother was white is the same guy who:

 

 

"ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites" (From Barack Obama's self-penned book)

 

 

So, when it's conveeeenient to throw your Grandmother's race into the mix to save your own ass, you do so. But you're embarassed to admit your own mother's race because you don't want to ingratiate yourself to the white debils?

 

Lying hypocritical racist.