Watched my stepdad beat a dog half to death

[Rusty Syringes 478]

OMG Rustor.....I guess I don't see how you can get that without being there to see it.

Maybe both Shovel and his FIL went overboard, maybe they didn't. But I don't think growling and snapping at my daughter would get even me to go 'Chuck Norris' on the dog. But if the dog bit my daughter, I too would kicked the everlovingshit out of it as well.

 

Guess I'm a hillbilly too.

 

 

OK, if the dog had bit the daughter, but it didn't.

 

It was 1 snap and some growling, an indication that it was doing nothing more than saying, "Get the fock away from my golf cart!"

 

My reaction to this kind of thing would depend on the circumstances, but in this case, there was no bite, just a snap and some growling, indicating that the dog was just trying to scare the kid off its turf.

[Joe Carcuss 0]

And I guess you didn't read this part of the original post:

Clearly the kid was safe at this point. What shovel did to protect his kid was understandable, but what Stepdaddy did was done with forethought and not done to protect the kid.

 

The poor old redneck had no reason at that point to beat that dog. Like you said, it would have been better to just put abullet in its head after they left. To take a rake to a dog that is no longer a threat is inhumane and criminal, and very well have traumatized the kid for years to come.

 

It's really that simple! People who beat dogs, shoot cats, etc... are just cowardly scum! A REAL MAN doesn't need to bully animals!

[dj_stouty 0]

I'm sorry...but if a dog my daughter was familiar with even attempted to maul my daughter, I would have ended its life on the spot. Being "father of the year" doesn't mean you and your daughter are immune from being in a bad situation with a bad dog...

 

You don't take the chance of the dog retaliating on your daughter or yourself. You choke it out until all is quiet.

 

End of story...no regrets.

[Birdseed 1]

Did I ever tell you guys about my friends who caught sparrows nesting in the clothes line poles? Jammed firecrackers down their throat, lit said firecracker, and let the sparrow fly away. Sometimes it made it to the tree. I admit, sometimes I snickered a little bit.

 

[Jeff Garcia 8]

I'm sorry, but ######. There is a whole new breed of pussies around here.

 

Shovel didn't do anything wrong. Man some of you guys are some bandwagon jumping, judgemental phags.

 

Beating the dog half to death is wrong. But honestly in that situation I can see it.

Your granddaughter is about to get mauled by your dog, and I can see having some anger and rage coming into play. My dad would've simply shot it behind the barn.

 

Animals are animals. They're not humans. Some of you fuckking people b!tch more about animals being hurt than the senseless violence that goes on day after day in your own backyards, but hey, save Fido.

 

Get your fukking priorities straight.

You call us judgemental, then you proceed to call us phags?

 

They did do something wrong, they beat the dog half to death, well after the danger to his daughter was over. I hope she didn't see that, because she will start to treat dogs that way from now on. Like others have said, I would watch your FIL. If he throws you out of the way to relieve his hardon for beating the dog, I can't imagine what he would do to someone that crossed him. If I were you, I would delete this thread right now, and forget it ever happened.

[kutulu 1,680]

Every time I read one of your threads, I hear Dueling Banjos from Deliverance in my head.

 

When my wife was a little girl, there was this neighborhood dog that one day turned on her (it was a great dane, btw) for no reason and bit her arm. Well, this developed into blood posioning and a month long hospital stay. Her parents (read-not blood relatives from West Virginny) got a little mad when the dog owners continued to let the dog run free around the kids/neighborhood.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So they feed it a posioned steak. HillBilly Justice

[phillybear 366]

The job is only half done. Someone needs to beat the golf cart to death.

[Mephisto 15]

Yes, taking action after the dog has bitten the child is the smart play.

[Jeff Garcia 8]

Yes, taking action after the dog has bitten the child is the smart play.

The dog most likely didn't know WTF was going on, other than he is being beaten.

[jerryskids 6,825]

Fascinating stuff.

 

So, how is the daughter? Did you talk to her? What did you say?

[Mark Buffington 3]

Research in psychology and criminology shows that people who commit acts of cruelty toward animals don't stop there—many of them move on to their fellow humans.

 

If you know of someone who has harmed an animal, report it to animal control or the police right away. The animals and the people in your community are depending on you. Help improve the lives of dogs and cats suffering from cruelty and neglect by supporting PETA's work for companion animals.

 

The more you know...

[shovelheadt 71]

Fascinating stuff.

 

So, how is the daughter? Did you talk to her? What did you say?

 

She's fine, for the most part. She's got a scrape from either a tooth or paw on her back. Her head also hurts because when he tried to bite her he ended up with a mouth full of ponytail. You could see where he yanked a clump of hair out of the hair tie.

[phillybear 366]

Research in psychology and criminology shows that people who commit acts of cruelty toward animals don't stop there—many of them move on to their fellow humans.

 

If you know of someone who has harmed an animal, report it to animal control or the police right away. The animals and the people in your community are depending on you. Help improve the lives of dogs and cats suffering from cruelty and neglect by supporting PETA's work for companion animals.

 

NO SNITCHING!!

[shovelheadt 71]

You call us judgemental, then you proceed to call us phags?

 

They did do something wrong, they beat the dog half to death, well after the danger to his daughter was over. I hope she didn't see that, because she will start to treat dogs that way from now on. Like others have said, I would watch your FIL. If he throws you out of the way to relieve his hardon for beating the dog, I can't imagine what he would do to someone that crossed him. If I were you, I would delete this thread right now, and forget it ever happened.

 

[jerryskids 6,825]

She's fine, for the most part. She's got a scrape from either a tooth or paw on her back. Her head also hurts because when he tried to bite her he ended up with a mouth full of ponytail. You could see where he yanked a clump of hair out of the hair tie.

I am more interested in how she is doing emotionally.

[dj_stouty 0]

The more you know...

 

So if a dog is about to attack your daughter what do you do? Sternly say; "Stop right there, buster, or I'll call Animal Control on you!"

 

Its one thing if you the type of person who beats animals on a regular basis...its another if you are protecting a family member.

[shovelheadt 71]

I am more interested in how she is doing emotionally.

 

She's fine and hasn't mentioned it since. First thing she said to her mom when I dropped her off was "Daddy caught a really big fish". She cried for a few minutes, then it took her about 15 minutes to get back to being her normal chipper self.

[Jeff Garcia 8]

That's the reply I was expecting. You don't happen to be Rude Rick do you?

[shovelheadt 71]

So if a dog is about to attack your daughter what do you do? Sternly say; "Stop right there, buster, or I'll call Animal Control on you!"

 

Its one thing if you the type of person who beats animals on a regular basis...its another if you are protecting a family member.

 

I just love how some of these focking retards like to lob accusations just for the sake of arguing, as if my stepfather is some sort of future maniac. They fail to realize that these dogs wouldn't even be alive today if my parents hadn't taken them in. They also fail to realize that people don't just turn violent at the age of 65. Morons.

[macca 0]

It's really that simple! People who beat dogs, shoot cats, etc... are just cowardly scum! A REAL MAN doesn't need to bully animals!

 

Would you still be objecting if the FIL had just shot the dog in the head? Is it the way he handled it or the fact that a poor lil poochie woochie got hurt?

[Bert 1,128]

I call bullshat on these people being from the country. People from the country doen't beat dogs (or have golf carts but that's another matter). It is not productive and is a waste of time. People in the country respect animals because they all have their place.

 

In the country: FIL would have calmly picked up granddaughter and taken her into the house. He then would have walked back out to the garage put on the leather gloves and calmly grabbed the dog and pulled it outside away from the golf cart. Once outside FIL would have calmly shot the dog in the back of the head and taken it into the woods and buried it.

 

If the dog has become that territorial it has forgotten its place and is of no use in the country.

[Mephisto 15]

So is there a dog-print in the sheet-rock? Could be one hell of a spackle job.

[Jeff Garcia 8]

I am more interested in how she is doing emotionally.

He'll know next time a dog gets out of line, and her daughter tries to beat it down just like daddy did. Kids are very impressionable, and they imitate what they see. I just hope she is old enough to know what she saw was wrong.

[shovelheadt 71]

He'll know next time a dog gets out of line, and her daughter tries to beat it down just like daddy did. Kids are very impressionable, and they imitate what they see. I just hope she is old enough to know what she saw was wrong.

 

I doubt she saw any of it between the crying, me inspecting her and then taking her into the house.

[TheNewGirl 1,496]

She's fine and hasn't mentioned it since. First thing she said to her mom when I dropped her off was "Daddy caught a really big fish". She cried for a few minutes, then it took her about 15 minutes to get back to being her normal chipper self.

 

I am glad to hear that she appears okay, but just because she's not talking about it doesn't mean that she's not thinking about it. I think that a lot of little kids rarely speak up/ask questions about these kinds of things, especially if she saw and felt your anger...perhaps she feels that you will be angry with HER if she mentions it. WE know that you wouldn't be angry with her, but kids are so much different. Their worlds are SO ego-centric, and I wouldn't doubt for one second that she has some feeling that what happened to the dog was somehow HER fault.

 

I know that my son will think about things that happened WEEKS ago, then suddenly spring a question on me.

 

Have you tried asking her if she wants to talk about it, or has any questions? I know that bringing it up might not be the BEST idea, but if she's thinking about it, it's best to clear it up with answers from you, and not ones that she's trying to figure out on her own.

 

Just a thought.

 

ETA: I don't think that your daughter will somehow start being mean to animals because of what she witnessed, as some have mentioned here. I think that she MIGHT need SOME kind of explaination. All she knows is that she wanted to say BYE to the dogs, it snapped and bit her, then daddy and grandpa started beating it. I imagine that the dog was crying and yelping too, so she KNOWS that it was being hurt.

 

Again, just thinking out loud here.

[NewbieJr 541]

He'll know next time a dog gets out of line, and her daughter tries to beat it down just like daddy did. Kids are very impressionable, and they imitate what they see. I just hope she is old enough to know what she saw was wrong.

 

Kids aren't able to decifer if the dog was beaten because it growled at her or because it was in the golf cart.

 

Just wait until she beats the crap out of some poor bastard in his golf cart one day.

[Jeff Garcia 8]

Just wait until she beats the crap out of some poor bastard in his golf cart one day.

[shovelheadt 71]

I am glad to hear that she appears okay, but just because she's not talking about it doesn't mean that she's not thinking about it. I think that a lot of little kids rarely speak up/ask questions about these kinds of things, especially if she saw and felt your anger...perhaps she feels that you will be angry with HER if she mentions it. WE know that you wouldn't be angry with her, but kids are so much different. Their worlds are SO ego-centric, and I wouldn't doubt for one second that she has some feeling that what happened to the dog was somehow HER fault.

 

I know that my son will think about things that happened WEEKS ago, then suddenly spring a question on me.

 

Have you tried asking her if she wants to talk about it, or has any questions? I know that bringing it up might not be the BEST idea, but if she's thinking about it, it's best to clear it up with answers from you, and not ones that she's trying to figure out on her own.

 

Just a thought.

 

ETA: I don't think that your daughter will somehow start being mean to animals because of what she witnessed, as some have mentioned here. I think that she MIGHT need SOME kind of explaination. All she knows is that she wanted to say BYE to the dogs, it snapped and bit her, then daddy and grandpa started beating it. I imagine that the dog was crying and yelping too, so she KNOWS that it was being hurt.

 

Again, just thinking out loud here.

 

Not sure if this is what you meant, but I did 'talk' to her about why the dog was mean to her. "The doggie is old and just got scared". Stuff like that.

[Toro 1]

There is a difference between protecting your family in a bad situation and temporary insanity. I would understand if the dog continued to be aggressive and family members were in danger, but to kill a dog with a freaking rake? No animal deserves that. Especially one that was just doing what it had been doing for quite a while.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

My two cents...

 

- The dog is too territorial and the issue needed to be addressed

- You don't beat the crap out of the dog after the kid is out of harms way

- You don't beat the crap out of the dog in front of the kid

 

 

All of that being said, I have a hard time believing that I would be able to prevent myself from kicking the ass of the dog in front of the kid. It is a heat of the moment thing and you have little sympathy for the dog at that moment.

 

Along the same lines:

It is wrong to kill someone, regardless of what they have done to you. If someone molested my kids and I found them, I would kick their ass, regardless of whether my kids were no longer in danger. May not be "right" if you have a clear head, but I would not have a clear head at that point.

 

ETA: I am unclear as to whether the dog is now dead. I probably would have beat it a little, but not even close to death.

[TheNewGirl 1,496]

Not sure if this is what you meant, but I did 'talk' to her about why the dog was mean to her. "The doggie is old and just got scared". Stuff like that.

 

Hmmm. But that's not really what happened, right?

 

Sure the dog is old, might have been scared, but also warning her that when dogs are "protecting" their things...when they growl, when they snap, etc, she needs to watch out for stuff like that, right?

 

Did you explain why you and grandpa went apesh!t on the dog? I think that explaining that YOU and granpda were scared might help explain things better, and sometimes doggies hurt little kids.

 

Just trying to think of what I would have said to my son...but I don't think I would have him in that situation.

My parents have dogs, and my son is NEVER allowed to be outside with them without my dad or another adult.

[shovelheadt 71]

Hmmm. But that's not really what happened, right?

 

Sure the dog is old, might have been scared, but also warning her that when dogs are "protecting" their things...when they growl, when they snap, etc, she needs to watch out for stuff like that, right?

 

Did you explain why you and grandpa went apesh!t on the dog? I think that explaining that YOU and granpda were scared might help explain things better, and sometimes doggies hurt little kids.

 

Just trying to think of what I would have said to my son...but I don't think I would have him in that situation.

My parents have dogs, and my son is NEVER allowed to be outside with them without my dad or another adult.

 

No, that's not what happened. The truth is, dogs will snap whenever they see fit, for no reason whatsoever. But how do you explain that to a 4 year old. She's been told in the past never to approach a dog that's eating.

 

As far as my reaction (and my dad's), I'm pretty sure she knows why we did it. We've had your typical child/parent conversations in the past about the boogie man and ghosts. "Daddy won't let anyone hurt you"..stuff like that. If she ever brings it up, I'll expand on it then.

[Mark Buffington 3]

So if a dog is about to attack your daughter what do you do? Sternly say; "Stop right there, buster, or I'll call Animal Control on you!"

 

Its one thing if you the type of person who beats animals on a regular basis...its another if you are protecting a family member.

Once my daughter is safe, I go back to the garage, put on leather gloves, grab a rake, corner the animal and then I proceed to beat it half to death. THAT's what I do.

 

Along the same lines:

It is wrong to kill someone, regardless of what they have done to you. If someone molested my kids and I found them, I would kick their ass, regardless of whether my kids were no longer in danger. May not be "right" if you have a clear head, but I would not have a clear head at that point.

Kid toucher = growling stray dog

[Guest Black Label Society]

And I guess you didn't read this part of the original post:

Clearly the kid was safe at this point. What shovel did to protect his kid was understandable, but what Stepdaddy did was done with forethought and not done to protect the kid.

 

The poor old redneck had no reason at that point to beat that dog. Like you said, it would have been better to just put abullet in its head after they left. To take a rake to a dog that is no longer a threat is inhumane and criminal, and very well have traumatized the kid for years to come.

 

Agreed.

 

You call us judgemental, then you proceed to call us phags?

 

They did do something wrong, they beat the dog half to death, well after the danger to his daughter was over. I hope she didn't see that, because she will start to treat dogs that way from now on. Like others have said, I would watch your FIL. If he throws you out of the way to relieve his hardon for beating the dog, I can't imagine what he would do to someone that crossed him. If I were you, I would delete this thread right now, and forget it ever happened.

 

Well, if the shoe fits.

 

Also this is not my thread, but thanks for playing.

[Rusty Syringes 478]

No, that's not what happened. The truth is, dogs will snap whenever they see fit, for no reason whatsoever. But how do you explain that to a 4 year old. She's been told in the past never to approach a dog that's eating.

 

As far as my reaction (and my dad's), I'm pretty sure she knows why we did it. We've had your typical child/parent conversations in the past about the boogie man and ghosts. "Daddy won't let anyone hurt you"..stuff like that. If she ever brings it up, I'll expand on it then.

 

I think in the long run it will be far more complicated and difficult to explain your overall behavior than this dog's reaction.

[paulinstl 296]

I did 'talk' to her about why the dog was mean to her. "The doggie is old and just got scared". Stuff like that.

 

Hopefully you tried to explain why Stepdaddy was mean to the dog:

 

"Stepdaddy is just old and got scared when he saw the doggy be mean to you. That and the fact that he was kind of upset about how so many moths could have chewed holes in his favorite red-checkered flannel shirt and how those old grease stains never did come out of his WalMart blue jeans. Add in that he was really angry that the Sheriff broke down his meth lab, and Stepdaddy was having a real bad day. Not saying it's any excuse to beat a dog nearly half to death with a rake in front of you, but Stepdaddy loves you. Sometimes people show that love by taking all of their frustrations out on defenseless animals. Who can blame him when he just got that property tax bill from the Rural R1 Redistricted School District accompanied by a letter informing him that some Negroes were now attending the Ronald Reagan Middle School. Stepdaddy enjoys our visits and told me that he was going to get rid of that old golf cart so it will never bring up any bad memories for you of that scary doggy. He is going to put it out back behind the three rusted out Chevy El Caminos on cinderblocks, and the 52 Dodge chasis. He told me that where he's going to put it, you won't hardly be able to see it unless you're standing next the new grave where he put the scary doggy's carcass, or at least what was left of it after the Stepdaddy got through with the chainsaw and weed-whacker. So, Honey, it's like that. No reason to think any less of that doggy or Stepdaddy, they both were just following their instincts brought out by years of breeding."

 

[Guest Black Label Society]

Hopefully you tried to explain why Stepdaddy was mean to the dog:

 

"Stepdaddy is just old and got scared when he saw the doggy be mean to you. That and the fact that he was kind of upset about how so many moths could have chewed holes in his favorite red-checkered flannel shirt and how those old grease stains never did come out of his WalMart blue jeans. Add in that he was really angry that the Sheriff broke down his meth lab, and Stepdaddy was having a real bad day. Not saying it's any excuse to beat a dog nearly half to death with a rake in front of you, but Stepdaddy loves you. Sometimes people show that love by taking all of their frustrations out on defenseless animals. Who can blame him when he just got that property tax bill from the Rural R1 Redistricted School District accompanied by a letter informing him that some Negroes were now attending the Ronald Reagan Middle School. Stepdaddy enjoys our visits and told me that he was going to get rid of that old golf cart so it will never bring up any bad memories for you of that scary doggy. He is going to put it out back behind the three rusted out Chevy El Caminos on cinderblocks, and the 52 Dodge chasis. He told me that where he's going to put it, you won't hardly be able to see it unless you're standing next the new grave where he put the scary doggy's carcass, or at least what was left of it after the Stepdaddy got through with the chainsaw and weed-whacker. So, Honey, it's like that. No reason to think any less of that doggy or Stepdaddy, they both were just following their instincts brought out by years of breeding."

 

 

Ouch. A bit out of line, don't you think?

[Guest tiki_gods]

My grandma once said, you could judge a persons character, on how they treated animals. I think she was prolly right.

 

and how they treat their grandmothers

 

[Joe Carcuss 0]

Hopefully you tried to explain why Stepdaddy was mean to the dog:

 

"Stepdaddy is just old and got scared when he saw the doggy be mean to you. That and the fact that he was kind of upset about how so many moths could have chewed holes in his favorite red-checkered flannel shirt and how those old grease stains never did come out of his WalMart blue jeans. Add in that he was really angry that the Sheriff broke down his meth lab, and Stepdaddy was having a real bad day. Not saying it's any excuse to beat a dog nearly half to death with a rake in front of you, but Stepdaddy loves you. Sometimes people show that love by taking all of their frustrations out on defenseless animals. Who can blame him when he just got that property tax bill from the Rural R1 Redistricted School District accompanied by a letter informing him that some Negroes were now attending the Ronald Reagan Middle School. Stepdaddy enjoys our visits and told me that he was going to get rid of that old golf cart so it will never bring up any bad memories for you of that scary doggy. He is going to put it out back behind the three rusted out Chevy El Caminos on cinderblocks, and the 52 Dodge chasis. He told me that where he's going to put it, you won't hardly be able to see it unless you're standing next the new grave where he put the scary doggy's carcass, or at least what was left of it after the Stepdaddy got through with the chainsaw and weed-whacker. So, Honey, it's like that. No reason to think any less of that doggy or Stepdaddy, they both were just following their instincts brought out by years of breeding."

 

 

[Franknbeans 46]

I think in the long run it will be far more complicated and difficult to explain your overall behavior than this dog's reaction.

and this is from a redneck

 

 

I nominate this thread as best since the board resurrection