Terrell Davis

[Cuse9 129]

Terrell Davis goes up for the Hall of Fame next year I believe. I thought his career was too short to merit any discussion of the Hall....but after seeing some things, I'm not so sure?

 

In seven seasons in Denver here is his accomplishments.

78 Games played

1655 attempts

7607 yds rushing.....2008 yds in

1280 yds receiving

65 Touchdowns

Two time NFL Offensive MVP

 

In 8 postseason games he did this...wow!

7 one hundred yard rushing games, playoff record.

204 carries

1140 yards

19 receptions

131 yds

19 TD's

MVP of SB

 

Other credits:

Only Earl Campbell and Eric Dickerson had more yards in their first four years (6413 yds).

Lowest drafted player to ever rush for 1000 yds in their rookie year.

96, 97 & 98 pro bowl selection.

First player to rush for 3 TD's in Super Bowl.

Three rushing titles.

Won two super bowls.

 

Retired because of bad knees.

 

 

The closest player I can compare him to is Gale Sayers who also retired of bad knees.

Played seven season's as well.

68 career games

991 attempts

4956 rushing yards

112 receptions

1307 receiving

48 TD's

 

Other

Had 6 TD's in one game.

scored 22 TD's in rookie year.

Still lifetime kickoff return leader

Had 3172 KR and PR yards.

 

Even though Sayers played in fewer games....14 game seasons, their stats are comparable. Sayers was much more exciting, there's no doubt. But looking at Davis' playoff stats...they're incredible, it's uncanny what he did in eight games.

 

What it comes down to is this for me: I think if Sayers gets in with his incredible stats for such a short season, I think Davis deserves to be in as well....what do you guys think?

[zmanzzzz 1]

how do his numbers compare to marshall faulks?

[Cuse9 129]

how do his numbers compare to marshall faulks?

 

Not even close....Faulk blows him away....12 seasons though, even though the last few years have been injury plagued.

[zmanzzzz 1]

Not even close....Faulk blows him away....12 seasons though, even though the last few years have been injury plagued.

 

i have a feeling the numbers are closer than you think.

[Cuse9 129]

i have a feeling the numbers are closer than you think.

 

176 games

2836 carries

12279 rushing yards

136 Touchdowns

767 receptions

6875 receiving yards

 

Faulks stats blow away Davis and Sayers!

[t.j 35]

Not. I think Davis backers will have to make a much better argument than Sayers. Sayers was voted in in 1977, a lot has changed since then. I don't think Davis was to the modern NFL what Sayers was to the NFL then, and I think he faces more competition.

[zmanzzzz 1]

Faulks stats blow away Davis and Sayers!

 

i stand corrected, thanks for digging those up.

[Vikings4ever 550]

Not. While he had a few great years, he wasn't so extraordinary that he deserves Sayers consideration.

[Cuse9 129]

Not. While he had a few great years, he wasn't so extraordinary that he deserves Sayers consideration.

 

You're just saying no because you're mad that the Vikes didn't get to play the Broncos in 98....I still think that would have been one hell of a Super Bowl!! Gary Anderson...only one missed fg allllll year....sheesh!

[Phurfur 70]

Right after Art Monk!

[Cuse9 129]

Right after Art Monk!

 

I don't know why Monk isn't in? He held records, won three Super Bowls, first player to catch 100 balls in a season, retired as the all time leading receive in receptions...has all the accolades. If you can figure that one out...let me know?!

[Mack 1 6]

Yes, he deserves to be in the HOF.

 

The Gale Sayers comparison is valid and sets the precedent. TD was a machine, and was the reason the Broncos won those Super Bowls. I don't have the figures, but there's some off-the-chart stat about the number of 100-yard games he had; it was a ridiculous number, something like 60% of the games he played. That's sick.

 

However, I don't think he should get elected in his first year of eligibility.

[Nichee 0]

If Lynn Swann and these career stats are Hall of Fame worthy, how can you deny T.D., Art Monk or anyone who has a halfway decent career with a Super Bowl ring?

[Ras66not99 0]

Terrell Davis goes up for the Hall of Fame next year I believe. I thought his career was too short to merit any discussion of the Hall....but after seeing some things, I'm not so sure?

 

In seven seasons in Denver here is his accomplishments.

78 Games played

1655 attempts

7607 yds rushing.....2008 yds in

1280 yds receiving

65 Touchdowns

Two time NFL Offensive MVP

 

In 8 postseason games he did this...wow!

7 one hundred yard rushing games, playoff record.

204 carries

1140 yards

19 receptions

131 yds

19 TD's

MVP of SB

 

Other credits:

Only Earl Campbell and Eric Dickerson had more yards in their first four years (6413 yds).

Lowest drafted player to ever rush for 1000 yds in their rookie year.

96, 97 & 98 pro bowl selection.

First player to rush for 3 TD's in Super Bowl.

Three rushing titles.

Won two super bowls.

 

Retired because of bad knees.

The closest player I can compare him to is Gale Sayers who also retired of bad knees.

Played seven season's as well.

68 career games

991 attempts

4956 rushing yards

112 receptions

1307 receiving

48 TD's

 

Other

Had 6 TD's in one game.

scored 22 TD's in rookie year.

Still lifetime kickoff return leader

Had 3172 KR and PR yards.

 

Even though Sayers played in fewer games....14 game seasons, their stats are comparable. Sayers was much more exciting, there's no doubt. But looking at Davis' playoff stats...they're incredible, it's uncanny what he did in eight games.

 

What it comes down to is this for me: I think if Sayers gets in with his incredible stats for such a short season, I think Davis deserves to be in as well....what do you guys think?

 

He's in my Dynasty League H.O.F. baby... check it out... www.senadynasty.com click on the Hall Of Fame link to the left.... T.D. !!!!!

[jetswillwin 0]

Wow, he put up steller numbers in a system where every scrub who comes along puts up over 1,000 yards. His line and the guy who came up with the blocking scheme should be in the hall

[Ras66not99 0]

Wow, he put up steller numbers in a system where every scrub who comes along puts up over 1,000 yards. His line and the guy who came up with the blocking scheme should be in the hall

 

That would be Alex Gibbs big guy.... he's now in Atlanta

[shredhead 21]

Wow, he put up steller numbers in a system where every scrub who comes along puts up over 1,000 yards. His line and the guy who came up with the blocking scheme should be in the hall

I agree, Maybe TD and Alex Gibbs will be next to each other in the Hall. Zimmerman should be in by then too (Except he'll go in as a Vike)

[clintbob 0]

we need a poll for this.i vote no.best QB best O-line.

[bgard72 10]

Yes, he deserves to be in the HOF.

 

The Gale Sayers comparison is valid and sets the precedent. TD was a machine, and was the reason the Broncos won those Super Bowls. I don't have the figures, but there's some off-the-chart stat about the number of 100-yard games he had; it was a ridiculous number, something like 60% of the games he played. That's sick.

 

However, I don't think he should get elected in his first year of eligibility.

 

Good point...I second that!

[Vikings4ever 550]

Yes, he deserves to be in the HOF.

 

The Gale Sayers comparison is valid and sets the precedent. TD was a machine, and was the reason the Broncos won those Super Bowls. I don't have the figures, but there's some off-the-chart stat about the number of 100-yard games he had; it was a ridiculous number, something like 60% of the games he played. That's sick.

 

However, I don't think he should get elected in his first year of eligibility.

Actually, he wasn't even at 42%. Edge is at 51% right now.

[mgs316 14]

You guys cannot compare players from different era's, that's just dumb. You have to judge players in their own era's. Monk was the best that ever played when he retired, he should be in the HoF. Just because the league went pass wacky now doesn't mean you should penalize players from a different era.

 

It is the same thing like Ryne Sandberg in baseball. They guy was the best second baseman that ever played in that era, he hit for power which was unheard of for 2nd base. Now you look at his stats and though still solid, seems like everyone in the majors can hit numbers like his.

 

So the question is, who do you have to compare Davis to?

 

1994

B Sanders 1883

C Warren 1545

E Smith 1484

N Means 1350

M Faulk 1282

T Thomas 1093

R Hampton 1075

T Allen 1031

J Bettis 1025

E Rhett 1011

 

 

 

1995

E Smith 1773

B Sanders 1500

C Martin 1487

C Warren 1346

T Allen 1309

R Watters 1273

E Rhett 1207

R Hampton 1182

T Davis 1117

H Williams 1114

 

 

 

1996

B Sanders 1553

T Davis 1538

J Bettis 1431

R Watters 1411

E George 1368

T Allen 1353

A Murrell 1249

E Smith 1204

C Martin 1152

A Johnson 1120

 

 

 

1997

B Sanders 2053

T Davis 1750

J Bettis 1665

D Levens 1435

E George 1399

N Kaufman 1294

R Smith 1266

C Martin 1160

C Dillon 1129

R Watters 1110

 

 

 

1998

T Davis 2008

J Anderson 1846

G Hearst 1570

B Sanders 1491

E Smith 1332

M Faulk 1319

E George 1294

C Martin 1287

R Watters 1239

F Taylor 1223

 

1999

E James 1553

C Martin 1464

S Davis 1405

E Smith 1397

M Faulk 1381

E George 1304

D Staley 1273

C Garner 1229

R Watters 1210

C Dillon 1200

 

2000

E James 1709

R Smith 1521

E George 1509

M Anderson 1487

C Dillon 1435

F Taylor 1399

J Lewis 1364

M Faulk 1359

J Bettis 1341

S Davis 1318

 

He was beyond great for a few years, but he played in an era with some incredible backs. Emmitt, Sanders, Faulk, Eddie George, Marshall Faulk, Jerome Bettis, Ricky Watters, and Curtis Martin. Length of career needs to be taken into account unfortunately. Edit: Also, if Thurman Thomas is having trouble getting in the HoF, no way Terrell should get in.

 

I'm thinking probably no.

[Mack 1 6]

In theory, Hall of Fame-worthy players demonstrate sustained excellence throughout their careers.

 

Sure, one can look at TD's relatively brief career and poke holes in his HOF argument, but during his prime he could have been considered the best RB in the game for a 4 or 5 year stretch. How many RBs can claim that, plus have a 2,000 yard season on their resume, plus helped lead their team to two championships (don't believe the hype; TD won those Super Bowls, not Elway), plus won a Super Bowl MVP, plus won two league MVPs.

 

I'm not saying it's a no-brainer, but it seems everyone who argues against it points at his short career. Fock that. The dude was a beast and demonstrated it every game.

[football is life 0]

As much as I would like to say yes, I think it is a no. The Denver system is just too good and TD's career was too short.

[TerrySilver 0]

absolutely not. unfortunately, he didnt play long enough to warrant a spot in the HOF. there alot of player ahead of him in rushing yards and/or td's that wont even sniff the HOF.

 

and to keep things in perspective. LT is about to start his 6th year in the NFL, and he is only a couple yards shy of his total rushing yrd number, and LT2 already has more td's, rec, rec yrds, td rec, then davis.

 

 

honestly, i think an RB has to have at least 10,000 yrds rushing before even the thought of HOF comes to mind.

 

 

 

 

and i'll never understand how the fock isnt Art Monk in the HOF, yet lynn swann and his todd pinkston-esque numbers are in the HOF. somethings just arent right

[Ilov80s 0]

You guys cannot compare players from different era's, that's just dumb. You have to judge players in their own era's. Monk was the best that ever played when he retired, he should be in the HoF. Just because the league went pass wacky now doesn't mean you should penalize players from a different era.

 

It is the same thing like Ryne Sandberg in baseball. They guy was the best second baseman that ever played in that era, he hit for power which was unheard of for 2nd base. Now you look at his stats and though still solid, seems like everyone in the majors can hit numbers like his.

 

So the question is, who do you have to compare Davis to?

 

1994

B Sanders 1883

C Warren 1545

E Smith 1484

N Means 1350

M Faulk 1282

T Thomas 1093

R Hampton 1075

T Allen 1031

J Bettis 1025

E Rhett 1011

1995

E Smith 1773

B Sanders 1500

C Martin 1487

C Warren 1346

T Allen 1309

R Watters 1273

E Rhett 1207

R Hampton 1182

T Davis 1117

H Williams 1114

1996

B Sanders 1553

T Davis 1538

J Bettis 1431

R Watters 1411

E George 1368

T Allen 1353

A Murrell 1249

E Smith 1204

C Martin 1152

A Johnson 1120

1997

B Sanders 2053

T Davis 1750

J Bettis 1665

D Levens 1435

E George 1399

N Kaufman 1294

R Smith 1266

C Martin 1160

C Dillon 1129

R Watters 1110

1998

T Davis 2008

J Anderson 1846

G Hearst 1570

B Sanders 1491

E Smith 1332

M Faulk 1319

E George 1294

C Martin 1287

R Watters 1239

F Taylor 1223

 

1999

E James 1553

C Martin 1464

S Davis 1405

E Smith 1397

M Faulk 1381

E George 1304

D Staley 1273

C Garner 1229

R Watters 1210

C Dillon 1200

 

2000

E James 1709

R Smith 1521

E George 1509

M Anderson 1487

C Dillon 1435

F Taylor 1399

J Lewis 1364

M Faulk 1359

J Bettis 1341

S Davis 1318

 

He was beyond great for a few years, but he played in an era with some incredible backs. Emmitt, Sanders, Faulk, Eddie George, Marshall Faulk, Jerome Bettis, Ricky Watters, and Curtis Martin. Length of career needs to be taken into account unfortunately. Edit: Also, if Thurman Thomas is having trouble getting in the HoF, no way Terrell should get in.

 

I'm thinking probably no.

 

That B Sanders guy must of been pretty good.

[Freak Jones 0]

In theory, Hall of Fame-worthy players demonstrate sustained excellence throughout their careers.

 

Sure, one can look at TD's relatively brief career and poke holes in his HOF argument, but during his prime he could have been considered the best RB in the game for a 4 or 5 year stretch. How many RBs can claim that, plus have a 2,000 yard season on their resume, plus helped lead their team to two championships (don't believe the hype; TD won those Super Bowls, not Elway), plus won a Super Bowl MVP, plus won two league MVPs.

 

I'm not saying it's a no-brainer, but it seems everyone who argues against it points at his short career. Fock that. The dude was a beast and demonstrated it every game.

 

Come on dude! Poke a few holes? The guy had 3 great years. That's it, really, 3 great years! Hooray, they won 2 Superbowls! Yes, I'll give you the fact that he singlehandedly gave them the first Superbowl, but remind me how many TD's TD scored in the second one? Oh yeah, none!

 

By the way, Kurt Warner has 2 league MVPs and a Super Bowl MVP. He only had two great years, but maybe we should consider him for the Hall too?

[Ras66not99 0]

That B Sanders guy must of been pretty good.

 

Da Best baby !

[Let Da Big Dog Eat 40]

No, niether did well long enough nor had the "elictifing factor. He could not change a game by himself and that's what puts guys in the HOF.

[De Novo 0]

I think he eventually gets in. Based on his amazing playoff performance and 3 seasons of utter dominance, I think he deserves it. I suspect it won't be for a while.

[Raider 84 29]

Kenny Stabler!!!!!!!

[Vince44 205]

The anwser would have been obvious, if not for that knee injury early in the 99 season.

[Cuse9 129]

There are alot of good points...and alot of rediculous ones as well.

 

Bottom line is....there is no criteria....nobody knows if he'll get in or not, but there are definitly strong arguements for and against him getting in.

 

To say he had Elway or it was the system he played in are weak points. You can say the same thing for just about every player in the HOF.

 

To say the comparison between Sayers and Davis aren't good comparisons....I can definitly see the points there. Different times...different style of play.

 

In the Super Bowl he didn't score in....he did have 100 rushing and 50 receiving....not too shabby. And that was the year after he didn't even play the whole game and had three TD's in the big game.

 

Finally to the guy who said "he couldn't change games and that's what puts guys in the HOF" you were kidding right?!

 

Either way you look at it...he's border line. I'd much rather see him in the Hall over guys like Michael Irvin or Terrell Owens. He was a first class player. No matter what he will be remembered as one of the best ever....if only....

[OrangeSoda 2]

we need a poll for this.i vote no.best QB best O-line.

 

This could be said for Emmitt Smith Too!

 

No, niether did well long enough nor had the "elictifing factor. He could not change a game by himself and that's what puts guys in the HOF.

 

 

Terrell Davis, could not change game by himself???? WTF

 

I'm pretty sure Their First SB was all TD, didn't he play with a migrane, and came to rush for 95 yrds in the half or something!

[jgcrawfish 232]

Two great years, and 2 descent ones doesn't make a HOF career. He played on the best blocking team in the league, w/ a HOF QB, a possible HOF receiver, and a pretty good defense to boot. His #'s were exceptional, but TD wasn't, he just fit right in the system he was in. Again, same system produces 1 or 2 1000+ yds backs every year, is criticized regularly for their use of the cut block and led to the ban of the chop/whip block. Take any of the other great backs on that list, from any era, and they do at least as well. Put Barry Sanders in that offense and he might run for 3000 yrds and still be playing. No HOF.

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

Two great years, and 2 descent ones doesn't make a HOF career. He played on the best blocking team in the league, w/ a HOF QB, a possible HOF receiver, and a pretty good defense to boot. His #'s were exceptional, but TD wasn't, he just fit right in the system he was in. Again, same system produces 1 or 2 1000+ yds backs every year, is criticized regularly for their use of the cut block and let to the bann of the chop/whip block. Take any of the other great backs on that list, from any era, and they do at least as well. Put Barry Sanders in that offense and he might run for 3000 yrds and still be playing. No HOF.

 

While I agree with your 1st sentence, I don't agree with much else. The guy was nasty, unbelievable, and if you really watched him it was obvious that for a few seasons he was simply the best. He was definitely exceptional.

 

That said, he didn't do it long enough and he doesn't deserve to be in the HOF.

[Ilov80s 0]

This could be said for Emmitt Smith Too!

 

Emmit also ran for 18,000 yards and scored 164 TDs...a bit more convincing then Davis

[zmanzzzz 1]

That B Sanders guy must of been pretty good.

 

is he in the hall of fame?

[OrangeSoda 2]

Emmit also ran for 18,000 yards and scored 164 TDs...a bit more convincing then Davis

 

 

He also Player 100 years, unlike davis who player 5 full seasons and 2 half seasons

[t.j 35]

(don't believe the hype; TD won those Super Bowls, not Elway)

 

No, the hype is that Davis won those Super Bowls, but the reality is that Elway was the more important player between the two.

 

Terrell Davis, could not change game by himself???? WTF

 

I agree with Let Da Big Dog Eat that TD could not change a game by himself. I was always more scared of Mike Anderson than Terrell Davis.

[Ilov80s 0]

He also Player 100 years, unlike davis who player 5 full seasons and 2 half seasons

 

which is pretty much the reason he is in the hall and TD isn't. Emmit was consistently great for over a decade, while TD was a flash in the pan. They both had great QBs, great o-lines, but only one holds the all-time rushing record.