Openning Day of Fire Arm Deer Season - MI

[resser2 0]

Anyone got any good Buck Picts yet?

[Hags 0]

cdub out in the woods being stalked by deer?

[Riddlen 1]

cdub out in the woods being stalked by deer?

he grew up i nthe ghetto, no woods in sight.

 

hunting is booooring .

[Cdub100 3,995]

I saw it this afternoon

[mobb_deep 920]

Yay let's go shoot some beautiful animals and hang their heads on our wall!

 

 

CLASSY!

 

 

GWB is my hero!

 

 

[wiffleball 4,797]

How many 'Fire Arm Deer' can you kill before your reach your limit?

[GettnHuge 2]

actually I've been out with the crossbow this week, decided not to go to the state up north this year.

[Churchill610 0]

Can some of y'uns drive down to Northern VA for about 4-5 days and establish an eradication program. The number of freakin' deer around here is astounding. You saw my post about the deer in the house last weekend.

[itsjjw 1]

Hunting is just wrong.

[Voltaire 5,491]

Hunting is just wrong.

 

I agree. Deer are people too!

[resser2 0]

Hunting is just wrong.

what ever.

[BMoney 0]

Hunting is just wrong.

 

 

i can see where people feel this way...

 

but if they knew how many deer starve and die in the woods in the winter...too many deer..not enough food..

 

or scramble for food..only to race in front of a car that your family is in...

 

if its done properly(and not by Hmongs in Wisconsin)...it serves a purpose...

[itsjjw 1]

i can see where people feel this way...

 

but if they knew how many deer starve and die in the woods in the winter...too many deer..not enough food..

 

or scramble for food..only to race in front of a car that your family is in...

 

if its done properly(and not by Hmongs in Wisconsin)...it serves a purpose...

Then feed them so that they don't starve.

[DuckStupid 40]

Then feed them so that they don't starve.

 

 

What are you waiting for? Oh, you don't actually give a sh!t, you just want to complain.

[TD Ryan2 316]

i can see where people feel this way...

 

but if they knew how many deer starve and die in the woods in the winter...too many deer..not enough food..

 

or scramble for food..only to race in front of a car that your family is in...

 

if its done properly(and not by Hmongs in Wisconsin)...it serves a purpose...

 

 

look... I don't care if you want to go hunting... the thrill of the hunt, the chase, the exhilaration of the kill; I have no doubt that as barbaric as it sounds, we're all human and as such we all still have that wiring in our systems.

So, no... I don't condemn hunters at all. Hey, we've all got our thing.

 

But this crap about your doing the deer a favor... just stop. Really. It's hollow.

 

 

I also find it interesting that hunting accidents are recorded and published every year AND they are filed according to age categories. I don't have a link, but all I remember from seeing the report is that I NEVER want to be near a "hunter" that's 25 or younger.

[Riddlen 1]

waaaaaahhhh, my bagina hurts

i dont hunt, but these people crack me up

[Nomad99 814]

look... I don't care if you want to go hunting... the thrill of the hunt, the chase, the exhilaration of the kill; I have no doubt that as barbaric as it sounds, we're all human and as such we all still have that wiring in our systems.

So, no... I don't condemn hunters at all. Hey, we've all got our thing.

 

But this crap about your doing the deer a favor... just stop. Really. It's hollow.

I also find it interesting that hunting accidents are recorded and published every year AND they are filed according to age categories. I don't have a link, but all I remember from seeing the report is that I NEVER want to be near a "hunter" that's 25 or younger.

 

You sir are incorrect

Whitetail deer populations (especially in the North East) are thriving.......thriving to the point where there is not enough food to go around. Conservation is not only about saving land & protecting endangered species......it's also about wildlife management........management can & does include regulating the # of any particular species for the overall good of said species and other species that share the same habitat. If you have not witnessed numbers of deer carcasses in the wild caused by the lack of suitable forage due to overpopulation of the species, then you know not of what you speak. It is not uncommon for "Lottery" type hunting by permit on wildlife refuges due to the deers propensity to proliferate beyond sustainable numbers in the absence of natural predation. Culling out the herds will result a LOWER MORTALITY RATE than if the population were left unchecked. Also.......The vast majority of deer hunters are NOT trophy hunters....while most would agree that the prize of a nice rack is incentive to put your time in(hey....who doesn't like a nice rack ) the fact is that deer meat tastes great & can also be used an inexpensive supplement for families on a tight budget that would otherwise need to buy beef or other meats (this is a FACT in regions like Northern Maine where the average per capita income is quite low).

 

Your comments on the frequency of hunting accidents in regards to the sub 25 age group are valid & concerning. With age comes wisdom(one would hope) & I for one would like to see broader hunter education & firearms safety courses implemented everywhere.

[GettnHuge 2]

Unless some huge buck comes along I'll be happy taking a couple does to fill the freezer.

Deer populations are growing fast and the number of hunters(most likely due to baby boomers

getting older) are diminishing. Not long ago in Ohio you could take 1 deer, nowadays you can

buy several tags. Those fockers will eat farmers crops down to the ground and car-deer accidents

are increasing dramatically. One was hit across the road from my place yesterday. If you don't

have an alternate solution to overpopulation then STFU.

 

and by the way, hunters pay far more $ to conservation and wildlife services than bleeding hearts.

My license and tag ran $50 and I'll likely buy a couple more tags this season. Add to that my fishing license,

multiply that by the total number of hunters/fisherman...and you have a sh|tload of cash that dwarfs

anything environuts give to state services.

[TD Ryan2 316]

sorry Nomad...

 

while you can certainly make claims about deer over population in some areas.

 

and while you can certainly make claims about the poor people in Maine trying to feed their families on venison

 

those claims represent a small fraction of the who's and why's of hunting.

 

A basic hunting setup (gear, gun/bow, license, etc) is gonna' run at least $1,000.

And all the vehicles we see pulled over on the side of the highways, have 5 good buddies and a cooler of beer going out for a good time.

 

The appeal of hunting is the thrill... I don't know, maybe put it in the same category as a roller coaster.

The state likes it because it generates revenue, from equipment sales, to licencese fees, to general tourism.

 

 

The "we're saving the deer" and "poor people need to eat" angles are hollow as they only apply to a very small fraction of the testosterone filled yahoos running around in bright orange.

[Nomad99 814]

sorry Nomad...

 

while you can certainly make claims about deer over population in some areas.

 

and while you can certainly make claims about the poor people in Maine trying to feed their families on venison

 

those claims represent a small fraction of the who's and why's of hunting.

 

A basic hunting setup (gear, gun/bow, license, etc) is gonna' run at least $1,000.

And all the vehicles we see pulled over on the side of the highways, have 5 good buddies and a cooler of beer going out for a good time.

 

The appeal of hunting is the thrill... I don't know, maybe put it in the same category as a roller coaster.

The state likes it because it generates revenue, from equipment sales, to licencese fees, to general tourism.

The "we're saving the deer" and "poor people need to eat" angles are hollow as they only apply to a very small fraction of the testosterone filled yahoos running around in bright orange.

 

Any attemp to educate you will fall on deaf & ignorant ears I see.....

If you don't hunt......you cannot understand, nore are you qualified to ASSUME that it is solely for the thrill. Your positioning of the average hunter being a beer swilling redneck is further proof of your ignorance. While hunters meeting your vivid description do exist, they in no way comprise the majority of sportsmen.

 

As far as equipment costs....again you show your lack of knowledge. A shotgun with a rifled barrel can be purchased for around $200(one time purchase).......Ammo $12........license $50......clothing $100(one time purchase)...............your ignorance......PRICELESS!!!!

 

Do the states obtain revenue from this sport.....ABSOLUTELY.......as they do from MANY other recreational activities. The revenue generated from license fees....as stated by others, goes towards conservation programs that not only helps maintain healthy populations of various species.....but is also used to buy land that becomes conservation property & will never be developed thus insuring our ability to sustain wildlife in the future.........when was the last time YOU were financialy involved in protecting the future of our wildlife

 

It's OK to not like hunting.....even to be against it......However you should at least try to be factual & educated about the subject

[Snuff 10]

I don't hunt, used to hate the thought of hunters doing what they do. Now, after totaling my vehicle a couple years back, and the back injury I sustained from it, along with the other havoc they cause, I hope they all focking get killed. Nothing but a nuisance. A very destructive nuisance.

[GettnHuge 2]

As far as equipment costs....again you show your lack of knowledge. A shotgun with a rifled barrel can be purchased for around $200(one time purchase).......Ammo $12........license $50......clothing $100(one time purchase)...............your ignorance......PRICELESS!!!!

 

I think you need to up the prices. a lot(except for the license)

[Eagles Green 34]

So you hunt deer because there are too many, and not enough food to feed them?

 

 

So when is Ethiopian hunting season?

[TD Ryan2 316]

Any attemp to educate you will fall on deaf & ignorant ears I see.....

If you don't hunt......you cannot understand, nore are you qualified to ASSUME that it is solely for the thrill.

 

for the majority of people, it is and you are even touching upon this with your very statement that, "you don't hunt so you can't understand"

again, the notions of hunting because you're poor and need the food OR that you're helping the deer is reaching.

 

If you actually read my posts, you'd see that I am not against hunting. I don't really care much one way or the other about.

I just want us to all be realistic about WHY it goes on. It's a fun and thrilling activity for most who participate.

 

 

As far as equipment costs....again you show your lack of knowledge. A shotgun with a rifled barrel can be purchased for around $200(one time purchase).......Ammo $12........license $50......clothing $100(one time purchase)..............

 

again, you are completely lowballing these numbers to stretch the truth and attempt to prove your point.

While it is certainly possible to go out with second hand equipment and participate on the cheap, this is NOT what the majority are doing. Having the coolest, newest, best, and subsequently most expensive equipment is part of the package.

And even at your lowball figures, it's pretty expensive for a family that you're claiming can't even afford rice.

 

It's OK to not like hunting.....even to be against it......However you should at least try to be factual & educated about the subject

 

see, you're pretty heated about this... you haven't read the parts where I've stated I don't care one way or the other about hunting. Obviously you have an agenda to defend here and as such it makes your input on the whole subject quite biased and therefore invalid.

You are a hunter. You enjoy it. Okay. And maybe you do hunt for different reasons than the majority of people that are out there right now... good for you.

 

But, in defending your activity/past time, you're trying to convince the world that the majority of hunters are out there because it's their civic duty to help reduce the deer poplulation and/or they're very hungry and need the meat. Again.... hollow argument.

 

your personal attacks are a nice touch and all, but I'm not really looking to get into making fun of you because you bathe in deer urine... I'm just calling a spade a spade. Most hunters hunt because it's fun, thrilling, and a once a year time to get out with friends/family that they don't always have time to see.

[GettnHuge 2]

look... I don't care if you want to go hunting... the thrill of the hunt, the chase, the exhilaration of the kill; I have no doubt that as barbaric as it sounds, we're all human and as such we all still have that wiring in our systems.

So, no... I don't condemn hunters at all. Hey, we've all got our thing.

 

 

It's easier and less barbaric to just let colonel sanders do it for you I guess.

[mobb_deep 920]

You sir are incorrect

Whitetail deer populations (especially in the North East) are thriving.......thriving to the point where there is not enough food to go around. Conservation is not only about saving land & protecting endangered species......it's also about wildlife management........management can & does include regulating the # of any particular species for the overall good of said species and other species that share the same habitat. If you have not witnessed numbers of deer carcasses in the wild caused by the lack of suitable forage due to overpopulation of the species, then you know not of what you speak. It is not uncommon for "Lottery" type hunting by permit on wildlife refuges due to the deers propensity to proliferate beyond sustainable numbers in the absence of natural predation. Culling out the herds will result a LOWER MORTALITY RATE than if the population were left unchecked. Also.......The vast majority of deer hunters are NOT trophy hunters....while most would agree that the prize of a nice rack is incentive to put your time in(hey....who doesn't like a nice rack ) the fact is that deer meat tastes great & can also be used an inexpensive supplement for families on a tight budget that would otherwise need to buy beef or other meats (this is a FACT in regions like Northern Maine where the average per capita income is quite low).

 

Your comments on the frequency of hunting accidents in regards to the sub 25 age group are valid & concerning. With age comes wisdom(one would hope) & I for one would like to see broader hunter education & firearms safety courses implemented everywhere.

 

I'd be willing to bet there isn't enough deer food to go around because of deforestation and not because enough people aren't out shooting them. Mother nature has always, and will continue to, try and maintain that delicate balance that exists in nature. It's men in big trucks with GWB stickers, rifles, and chainsaws that are the problem.

 

[GettnHuge 2]

I'd be willing to bet there isn't enough deer food to go around because of deforestation and not because enough people aren't out shooting them.

 

wow you can owe me

[Voltaire 5,491]

I'd be willing to bet there isn't enough deer food to go around because of deforestation and not because enough people aren't out shooting them. Mother nature has always, and will continue to, try and maintain that delicate balance that exists in nature. It's men in big trucks with GWB stickers, rifles, and chainsaws that are the problem.

 

 

You ... uh ... don't know what you're talking about.

 

First, mother nature doesn't balance out the deer population anymore because the wolves, jackles, jaguars, and other big predators that actually did keep the deer population in check have been either destroyed or removed. They're a nusense and danger to people. So the deer population grows huge if left unchecked.

 

Also, Bambi's cutesie wootsie cousins eat EVERYTHING. Thy're voracious eaters. If it's green and grows, it'll get devoured by deer. What kind of bio-diversity are you going to get when the flowers, plants, bushes are all gone?

 

We can either reintroduce a predator population into the wild and deal with farmers upset over dead cattle, sheep, chickens and possibly children (and maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing in some areas) or allow for hunting.

 

Hunters- they freeze their asses off for a weekend, get their shoes all muddy, drink a lot of beer, often don't see any deer the whole time, the only thing they shoot off is their mouth. But you know they love that stuff if for no other reason it gets them out of the city away from their problems, into the clean air for a bit. And maybem hopefuly there's a thrill of the hunt, a good shot (and if you're real lucky you're spending the next hour and a half draging a carcass back with you three miles uphill.)

[Tud_duke 0]

If you actually read my posts, you'd see that I am not against hunting. I don't really care much one way or the other about.

I just want us to all be realistic about WHY it goes on. It's a fun and thrilling activity for most who participate.

 

This thread was started by a hunter discussing hunting. Some yahoo came in and said "hunting is just wrong". And another guy mentioned shooting beautiful animals and mounting them. What rebuttal is supposed to be given? Hunting is not wrong because I like the meat? Any argument besides the wildlife preservation one would be nonsensical. Its not why we hunt (for most of us I would assume), but its the perfect retort to an ignorant statement like hunting is bad. We are trying to prove that hunting is in fact not bad, we are not, however, even attempting to prove its the reason we do hunt. I hunt because I like the thrill of seeing/shooting deer, getting drunk, hanging out with family, field dressing and deboning, cooking, and eating the thing. Wildlife preservation and conservation are a byproduct of that among things.

[TD Ryan2 316]

Any argument besides the wildlife preservation one would be nonsensical. Its not why we hunt (for most of us I would assume), but its the perfect retort to an ignorant statement like hunting is bad. We are trying to prove that hunting is in fact not bad, we are not, however, even attempting to prove its the reason we do hunt. I hunt because I like the thrill of seeing/shooting deer, getting drunk, hanging out with family, field dressing and deboning, cooking, and eating the thing. Wildlife preservation and conservation are a byproduct of that among things.

 

 

excellent post. thank you for the honesty.

 

statements like "hunting is bad, you're killing Bambi" are ridiculous.

statements like "hunters are poor and need to eat and also they hunt because they want to help the wildlife" are equally ridiculous.

 

It's a partisan mentality... nobody wants to discuss the truth, they just want to twist the issues to "prove" their side is right.

 

 

I hope you have a safe and fun season

[GettnHuge 2]

almost had a 6 pointer earlier today. just got in.

My dad has a stand up that we use along this chainlink fence back in the woods, there is an opening in

the fence right by the stand. There's also a lot of scrapes in the area.

 

anyway this big doe comes down the other side of the fence to the opening followed by 3 smaller deer and

a little ways behind I can make out what looks to be a 6 pointer barely visible in the brush. I am downwind

but that doe stops at the fence and looks right at me. I'm somewhat facing away and def not moving. The

beyotch keeps looking and looking...then backs up and goes up the fence again all disappearing into the brush.

fock

after that those fockers went down and thru the other hole in the fence obviously then came up to about 60yds

away from me just short of the opening and in the brush. No way I could get a shot thru that with a crossbow

and besides I mostly only saw the smaller ones. So from the brush they keep looking at me making me sit

still...but never emerge. after an hour they wandered off and I moved the stand. Since I was downwind the

entire time no doubt I stuck out.

 

tomorrow will be bloody!

[30 Fat, Bald & Texan 5]

 

 

Hunters- they freeze their asses off for a weekend, get their shoes all muddy, drink a lot of beer, often don't see any deer the whole time, the only thing they shoot off is their mouth. But you know they love that stuff if for no other reason it gets them out of the city away from their problems, into the clean air for a bit. And maybem hopefuly there's a thrill of the hunt, a good shot (and if you're real lucky you're spending the next hour and a half draging a carcass back with you three miles uphill.)

I couldn't have said it better myself. I once hunted a whole year and saw deer once.

 

This coming from a guy that lives in China

[DAVID RUFFIN 2]

I'd be willing to bet there isn't enough deer food to go around because of deforestation and not because enough people aren't out shooting them. Mother nature has always, and will continue to, try and maintain that delicate balance that exists in nature. It's men in big trucks with GWB stickers, rifles, and chainsaws that are the problem.

 

[SUXBNME 1,595]

Bambi : You killed my mother

 

Captain Hero : Well, it sucks to be you

 

 

Also, I don't think that I would ever go hunting. Fawns are cute

[CantTouchThis 23]

Yeah, anti-hunters and tree huggers are some of the most ignorant people that have ever lived. STFU and take a shower already, and stop annoying decent, smart people.

[DuckStupid 40]

I dunno, I hunt cuz I like the meat and I enjoy the opportunity to get together with family I don't get enough opportunities to see throughout the year.. I make my alot of my own jerky and snausage, and it's damn good. Fresh venison chops on the grill, there ain't much better IMO.

[Cdub100 3,995]

I've got nothing against hunting. The meat is good and seems like a okay time.

 

But I do have to laugh at some hunters. they think they are so manly and tough. The fact is you're not "hunting" anything. You're sitting in a chair hoping something that would run from the sight of you comes wondering along and then you shoot it with a gun. Most of the time you have a scope so as long as you're not a complete fock up there's no way you can miss.

 

That being said, pass me a beer while I sit in the cold and wait for bambi.

[resser2 0]

Since I am the hunter that started this topic, let me chime in a little bit.....

 

I hunt for the fun of it.

 

I do it for being in the woods, away from the cell phones, email.... the wife.

and the bonding with my father-inlaw and Grandfather-inlaw

 

 

 

While hunters meeting your vivid description do exist, they in no way comprise the majority of sportsmen.

 

As far as equipment costs....again you show your lack of knowledge. A shotgun with a rifled barrel can be purchased for around $200(one time purchase).......Ammo $12........license $50......clothing $100(one time purchase)...............your ignorance......PRICELESS!!!!

 

Do the states obtain revenue from this sport.....ABSOLUTELY.......as they do from MANY other recreational activities. The revenue generated from license fees....as stated by others, goes towards conservation programs that not only helps maintain healthy populations of various species.....but is also used to buy land that becomes conservation property & will never be developed thus insuring our ability to sustain wildlife in the future.........when was the last time YOU were financialy involved in protecting the future of our wildlife

 

 

follow-up on the price....

My total cost to hunt this year was about $60.00

 

Licience - for resident Michigan is only $15.00.

Ammo - Remington rifle shells box of 20 - $15.95 with a ($5.00 rebate!) total 10.95 plus tax!

Gun - Remington 32-special free - This was my wife's Great-Grandfathers. *

Cloths - I use my winter cloths that I shovel show in. boots/coat/hat/gloves/wool pants - Free

Gas - I spent about $30.00 driving to the family owned land that I hunt on.

 

* note some huters like myself, hunt with the family guns. I have 7 different rifles, pistols and shotguns, none of which I have purchased. They have either been handed down like my 32-special or given as gifts from my father.

 

 

This thread was started by a hunter discussing hunting. Some yahoo came in and said "hunting is just wrong". And another guy mentioned shooting beautiful animals and mounting them. What rebuttal is supposed to be given? Hunting is not wrong because I like the meat? Any argument besides the wildlife preservation one would be nonsensical. Its not why we hunt (for most of us I would assume), but its the perfect retort to an ignorant statement like hunting is bad. We are trying to prove that hunting is in fact not bad, we are not, however, even attempting to prove its the reason we do hunt. I hunt because I like the thrill of seeing/shooting deer, getting drunk, hanging out with family, field dressing and deboning, cooking, and eating the thing. Wildlife preservation and conservation are a byproduct of that among things.

 

 

 

Well said I can't say it any better

 

 

excellent post. thank you for the honesty.

 

statements like "hunting is bad, you're killing Bambi" are ridiculous.

statements like "hunters are poor and need to eat and also they hunt because they want to help the wildlife" are equally ridiculous.

 

It's a partisan mentality... nobody wants to discuss the truth, they just want to twist the issues to "prove" their side is right.

I hope you have a safe and fun season

 

True

 

 

I dunno, I hunt cuz I like the meat and I enjoy the opportunity to get together with family I don't get enough opportunities to see throughout the year.. I make my alot of my own jerky and snausage, and it's damn good. Fresh venison chops on the grill, there ain't much better IMO.

 

exactly -

 

We do an awesome tenderloin roast too.

[Bert 1,128]

but all I remember from seeing the report is that I NEVER want to be near a "hunter" that's 25 or younger.

 

This is a bullshit stat that has nothing to do with hunting. I'd rather be near a 25 or young hunter than a 25 or younger driver.

[TD Ryan2 316]

This is a bullshit stat that has nothing to do with hunting. I'd rather be near a 25 or young hunter than a 25 or younger driver.

 

if so, then please explain as does little to make your point or add to your credibility.

 

hunting accidents are categorized by the ages of those involved.

those 25 and under are involved a disproportionately large number of hunting accidents.

 

 

also hunting and driving have nothing to do with eachother.

go hunting with someone under 25.

go driving with someone under 25.

go sky diving with someone under 25.

 

what's your point ?

 

 

 

so, like I said. Please expain to me why it's a crappy stat. I'm ready to listen.