edjr 6,942 Posted September 13, 2007 Two of the mainstream's biggest fish face-off on the charts today "F*** this is rap, and this is hip-hop; it came from the same place," Del the Funky Homosapien stated on his 1998 release, "Future Development." Fast forward nine years, and we see a situation that clearly contradicts the prolific rapper's proclamation. Today, two albums have been released that set the boundaries of the two sub-genres. Kanye West and 50 Cent are both dropping their third releases on the same day. West's "Graduation" defines hip-hop, while 50's "Curtis" exemplifies a rap album. As usual with big releases such as these, the appropriate amount of hype has been created. Most of it because of 50's promise, though later recanted, that if West's album sold more than his, 50 would stop performing and recording music as a solo artist. Both of their larger-than-life egos have also done their part to create a buzz. Most of this hype can be chalked up to good public relations work, in that both West and 50's parent company is Universal Music Group. This rivalry guarantees a huge boost in album sales, which means more money for Universal. Even if this is all a plan to increase both artist's sales, it gives us an opportunity to find out what the American music I say we settle this with a BATTLE TO THE DEATH! Not record sales. http://media.www.thedailyaztec.com/media/s...e-2960361.shtml Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,271 Posted September 13, 2007 I can't stand Kanye. He is such a baby. He whines about everything he can and anything that happens to him is always because he is black. Not because he sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 569 Posted September 13, 2007 They both suck, but Kanye is one of the biggest doucheb@gs on the planet. Let them fight to the death, then shoot the winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted September 13, 2007 Two ign'nint rappers exploiting kids with BS bravado....meh.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted September 13, 2007 Chuck D >>> 50 Cent >>> Kanye West Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saturday Night Beaver 2 Posted September 13, 2007 Chuck D >>> 50 Cent >>> Kanye West Chuck D = greatest rapper ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,942 Posted September 13, 2007 Chuck D = greatest rapper ever No love for FLAVA FLAV! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,271 Posted September 13, 2007 No love for FLAVA FLAV! Yeeeaaaaa boooooyyyeeeee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavy-set 39 Posted September 13, 2007 :noose: :noose: much better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Two of the mainstream's biggest fish face-off on the charts today I say we settle this with a BATTLE TO THE DEATH! Not record sales. http://media.www.thedailyaztec.com/media/s...e-2960361.shtml I agree.... they both sucked hard during the MTV VMAs...something i would never watch without TiVo..GB fast forwarding through the trash... these 2 ghetto assclowns are in this together....this isnt an east coast vs west coast thing...its a stupid publicity stunt.... chris brown is the ONLY male going who can truly entertain...he and the lil kids dancing?...i think thats cool... fock these other 2 and really..who the hell buys cd's in 2007?.... white people have computers and cd burners...cant a brutha steal one so kanye can win the cd race 5 to 4?... (its just the producers and mtv buying the cds anyway...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted September 13, 2007 Young MC laughs at both of these posers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaoni 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Young MC laughs at both of these posers. I laugh at you for this statement. Bust a move! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,942 Posted September 13, 2007 Sir Mixalot ! Hell of a bartender that man is!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,271 Posted September 13, 2007 Sir Mixalot ! I lllllliiikeeeee BIG Butts and I can not lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Artist Formerly Known as Big O 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted September 13, 2007 Somewhere, Vanilla Ice is smiling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackie sherrill 0 Posted September 13, 2007 I really don't like Kanye the person at all, he seems like a total d1ck. But, I love Gold Digger and could listen to it over and over. I've always liked 50's music, as I'm sure middle 30's white guys is a demographic he's catering to! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,271 Posted September 13, 2007 Somewhere, Vanilla Ice is smiling Only because he is doing coke off a strippers A$$. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RicemanX 20 Posted September 13, 2007 What's worse is the kids that actually think this is called "beef", going out and buying the albums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Me_2006 14 Posted September 14, 2007 I think Kanye just tries too hard to be an "artist" or something. I liked him alot but after Late Registration, he sorta fell out of favor with me and seemed too fake. 50 has that smooth slurred speech, makes for some badass hooks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Recliner Pilot 61 Posted September 14, 2007 Only because he is doing coke off a strippers A$$. Which requires more talent than either of those clowns have..................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rattlesnake 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Both are totally worthless. Rat's ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted September 14, 2007 I've hated 50 for a while now. I mean, after he went after ja rule for doing all those R and B songs, now he's doing the same thing. He's now what ja rule use to be. He's doing all kinds of gay ###### just like ja did. I've hated kanye for a while now too, but some of his music is good. At first i wouldn't even like a song by him no matter what because i hated him so much but eventually his music won me over. I don't like his gay pop ###### like gold digger, but diamonds are forver was bad ass. Get em high off of his first album was pretty good too. That song he did with the maroon 5 guy was cool too. Kanye is a bad ass producer so that helps. I agree with everyone who says he comes off as a douche. Who saw him on punked? Pair-ree.. i gotta go to pair-ree. Call it paris like everyone else ######. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JetsFan28 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Publicity stunt or not, 50 was completely outclassed by Kanye. 50's album isn't very good while Kanye's is incredible. 50's sucked since GRODT and Kanye recovered nicely from his second album which I didn't like very much at all. I was actually looking more forward to Curtis than I was Graduation, but after hearing both, it's not even close...KANYE. 50 doesn't care about his music anymore. I'm a big 50 fan too but overall, I was greatly disappointed. Of course the album has its moments, but he's nothing like what he used to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celticspride 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Ya know what is a great indication that hip-hop is on the decline?- The fact that 2Pac's latest CD, released last winter (and 11 years after he passed), is better than both of these CDs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted September 14, 2007 It all a publicity stunt, 50's CD leaked a few days before and they actually called the competition off, so, when they are approached if 50 will retire(since Kanye is owning him in sales) they will have writing of how they called it off because 50s CD leaked before. BTW, best rapper ever is Pac, followed by Dre and/or Biggie...then Chuck D. Best rapper today is Ludicris.....HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,942 Posted September 14, 2007 BTW, best rapper ever is Pac, followed by Dre and/or Biggie...then Chuck D. Best rapper today is Ludicris.....HTH. Good list for the most part. Don't forget the Fresh Prince though. No seriously, Snoop is better than Ludacris. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewbieJr 541 Posted September 14, 2007 Do either have nice singing voices? Can either play a musical instrument? Are either great, or even good, dancers? Please explain to me how they are 'talented'? They seem to be glorified story tellers who use a computer to generate a backbeat. Dima a dozen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted September 14, 2007 Good list for the most part. Don't forget the Fresh Prince though. No seriously, Snoop is better than Ludacris. Meh, Snoop back in the 90s was a top knotch rapper, especially when he was with Dre, him and Dre made an unbelievable rapping duo back in the early 90s. However, his recent stuff is just kinda meh, though he is more into acting and other type of appearences than he is into producing music anymore, same with Ice Cube who was also a top knotch rapper back in the day, especially with NWA, though even a couple of his solo albums right after NWA were good sh1t....but Ice Cube is probably the best rapper turned actor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted September 14, 2007 Do either have nice singing voices?Can either play a musical instrument? Are either great, or even good, dancers? Please explain to me how they are 'talented'? They seem to be glorified story tellers who use a computer to generate a backbeat. Dima a dozen. It takes madd skillz, don't be hatin cracka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,942 Posted September 14, 2007 but Ice Cube is probably the best rapper turned actor. Fresh Prince > anyone else that is an actor turned rapper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted September 14, 2007 Fresh Prince > anyone else that is an actor turned rapper Of course, i meant excluding Will, Will Smith is and really has always been mainly an actor though, IMO. Yeah, Will Smith is the best musical artist turned anything period, the Fresh Prince is just the man... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted September 15, 2007 It all a publicity stunt, 50's CD leaked a few days before and they actually called the competition off, so, when they are approached if 50 will retire(since Kanye is owning him in sales) they will have writing of how they called it off because 50s CD leaked before. BTW, best rapper ever is Pac, followed by Dre and/or Biggie...then Chuck D. Best rapper today is Ludicris.....HTH. Anybody who calls Dre the second or third best rapper has got to be the crackerest of crackers. If you're talkin producers, yea, Dre is probably the best, but when it comes to rapping he's terrible. My favorite rapper has been Jay-Z and i always pretend kingdom come never happened. Terrible album. Other than that, i like a few people nobody has probably heard of. Dead Prez is sick. The coup is a bad ass band with funky beats that white people would probably get jiggy with. But, best rapper right now has gotta be Immortal Technique. He hasn't released an album in a longgg time so his songs aren't as relevant anymore, but he released an album after 9-11 and its ridiculous good. There were so many times where i had to look ###### up to see what he was talkin about. "Condeliza Rise is just a new age Sally Hemmings." I had to google that one. But yea, the 4th branch (talkin about the media) and bin laden are really good songs too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted September 15, 2007 I think Kanye just tries too hard to be an "artist" or something. I liked him alot but after Late Registration, he sorta fell out of favor with me and seemed too fake. 50 has that smooth slurred speech, makes for some badass hooks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted September 15, 2007 Anybody who calls Dre the second or third best rapper has got to be the crackerest of crackers. If you're talkin producers, yea, Dre is probably the best, but when it comes to rapping he's terrible. My favorite rapper has been Jay-Z and i always pretend kingdom come never happened. Terrible album. Other than that, i like a few people nobody has probably heard of. Dead Prez is sick. The coup is a bad ass band with funky beats that white people would probably get jiggy with. But, best rapper right now has gotta be Immortal Technique. He hasn't released an album in a longgg time so his songs aren't as relevant anymore, but he released an album after 9-11 and its ridiculous good. There were so many times where i had to look ###### up to see what he was talkin about. "Condeliza Rise is just a new age Sally Hemmings." I had to google that one. But yea, the 4th branch (talkin about the media) and bin laden are really good songs too. I'm sorry to hear that? Is it serious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baby Jesus 0 Posted September 15, 2007 When I want to hear good rap criticism, I always look to white guys from Boston, Minnesota, and Wisconsin for my info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,942 Posted September 15, 2007 When I want to hear good rap criticism, I always look to white guys from Boston, Minnesota, and Wisconsin for my info. ME TOO!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toro 3 Posted September 15, 2007 When I want to hear good rap criticism, I always look to white guys from Boston, Minnesota, and Wisconsin for my info. And when white guys want opinions about anything actually important in life, we always go to black people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
