Man vs. Wild

[HTH 95]

This show is pretty

[wiffleball 4,789]

Is it wrong that I'm always rooting for "wild"?

[GettnHuge 2]

new here?

[30 Fat, Bald & Texan 5]

Les Stroud is better than Bear but they are the 2 best shows on TV.

[hoytdwow 202]

Les Stroud is better than Bear

 

 

 

Stroud may have more survival cred, but Bear is far more entertaining. Stroud's show is boring.

[schaef2k 0]

Bear Gryls is a fraud. Les is the real deal.

[30 Fat, Bald & Texan 5]

 

Stroud may have more survival cred, but Bear is far more entertaining. Stroud's show is boring.

The problem with Bear is he shows you exactly what you would do if you DIDN'T want to survive. He is entertaining though.

[Snuff 10]

I don't ever see myself trapped alone in the amazon jungle, so I watch these shows for the pure enjoyment, and Bear's show is much more entertaining than Les' show. Although I do like Les, he is boring as fock.

[GettnHuge 2]

The problem with Bear is he shows you exactly what you would do if you DIDN'T want to survive. He is entertaining though.

 

the problem with Bear is Discovery took control of the show with their people and made it into entertainment over reality.

and then you have viewers who believe it's 100% reality, but then see circumstances that were done just for the show and

of course cry fake. It's like a real fighter getting into the WWE. he's still legit

[swamp dog 0]

Les Stroud is better than Bear but they are the 2 best shows on TV.

 

but that stupid fock les can't catch a fish to save his life. he's always trying to make fish hooks out of beads or glass or a goddammed pop top....bear? makes a focking spear and skewers a fish.

 

oh, and les caught his shelther on fire last week and nearly killed himself

 

bear hands down.

[swamp dog 0]

the problem with Bear is Discovery took control of the show with their people and made it into entertainment over reality.

and then you have viewers who believe it's 100% reality, but then see circumstances that were done just for the show and

of course cry fake. It's like a real fighter getting into the WWE. he's still legit

 

here's the deal for me: i could care less about which show is legit. but you drop both of those guys out of a plane when no cameras are on and no one is watching and it's for real...and i'll take bear over les every time. hands down.

 

i find myself saying "idiot" about ten times while watching les for an hour. i don't claim to be some super outdoorsman, but i spent enough time in the woods growing up to call "he'll fock this up--that's not how you do it" a couple of times a show watching les.

 

watching that dumbass up in alaska with the salmon jumping all around him and him unable to 1) catch one 2) net one with a gigantic fishing net found washed up on the shore, and then catching his shelter on fire made me think he probably deserved to die and be eaten by bears (if darwin had anything to say about it).

 

seriously.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Bear routinely does stuff that you should NEVER do in the wild which if you want to die looks exciting. Example: jumping into freezing water to save time (while cheating wearing a lifevest under his sweatshirt yet acting like his backpack was a floation device) or drinking water that he may get malaria from, eating raw fish, etc..... Not to mention that his camera crew is right there and provides him with food if necessary.

 

Les shows how to survive which is yes at times boring. Example: doesn't let himself sweat in the cold, doesn't go jumping off cliffs, takes his time traversing obstacles, etc....

[parrot 789]

oh, and les caught his shelther on fire last week and nearly killed himself

 

Yeah, you won't see that from Bear. The probability of burning down a hotel is a lot lower than a lean-to.

[wiffleball 4,789]

but that stupid fock les can't catch a fish to save his life. he's always trying to make fish hooks out of beads or glass or a goddammed pop top....bear? makes a focking spear and skewers a fish.

 

oh, and les caught his shelther on fire last week and nearly killed himself

 

 

Too funny. I know exactly what you mean. I think it's actually kind of cool to see that sometimes, despite your best efforts and knowledge, you can invest a lot of time in something that doesn't pay off - or goes up in smoke.

 

I don't know who's better or worse. Frankly, I keep rooting from Bear Gryls to become Bear Poop. I think he's entertaining as all hell. I just think it'd be funny to see him get attacked by a bear, but that's just me.

 

I agree with the earlier poster. It's a documentary - and, contrary to popular belief - documentaries aren't all 'real'. Events are staged, rigged, etc. - to replicate what could happen sometime when the cameras AREN'T around. I don't need Bear to spend 8 hours lying on the ground for me to get the idea that it's cold and hard to sleep outside. The fact that he might be mocking that up to make the point doesn't offend me. The same thing goes with the hunger - I don't care if he just ate a double cheeseburger off camera and THEN caught a fish and ate it raw. It makes the point. I understand that lost people get hungry.

 

Personally, I think all the about him is stupid (for the reasons listed above). They're both entertaining. Bear is more dramatic, Les is more realistic. But 'realistic' doesn't mean great tv. Watching him make a fish hook and never catch a fish is a little . Watching Bear catch one with his hands and eat it raw - Good TV.

[MrLJH 0]

If thrown into an actual survival situation I would prefer Les over Bear hands down.

 

Les also plays a mean harmonica.

 

The best part of Survivor Man is watching Les' failures and how he works his way through tough situations.

 

Bear likes to climb things for no focking reason other than "good TV".

 

On one episode of Man vs Wild Bear drank his own urine and before the day was up he had to build a hammock in a tree to stay above flood waters...jeez. Bears drinking pizz and eating rotten dead animals is done more for the shock value than actual survival...imo

[phillybear 366]

I enjoy both shows. They are both entertaining in their own way.

[edjr 6,580]

Actually saw my 1st episode of Les Stroud Survivorman a couple of nights ago. It was the Africa one. The girl and I watched it and she liked it to. I actually loved the show so I checked the schedule and DVRed 3 more episodes. I think the guy is pretty amazing and I look forward to watching the other shows. Anytime the girl and I agree on a show it's pretty rare.

[rallo 136]

can bear play the harmonica like no one's business????

 

advantage LES

[wiffleball 4,789]

Les shows how to survive which is yes at times boring. Example: doesn't let himself sweat in the cold, doesn't go jumping off cliffs, takes his time traversing obstacles, etc....

 

 

Wrong.

 

Proof: Les deliberately let his sled dog team and most of his supplies go. That was a Bear Gryls moment if ever there was one.

 

 

 

And: Didn't anybody else ask "What the fock happened to those poor dogs?"

[swamp dog 0]

If thrown into an actual survival situation I would prefer Les over Bear hands down.

 

Les also plays a mean harmonica.

 

The best part of Survivor Man is watching Les' failures and how he works his way through tough situations.

 

Bear likes to climb things for no focking reason other than "good TV".

 

On one episode of Man vs Wild Bear drank his own urine and before the day was up he had to build a hammock in a tree to stay above flood waters...jeez. Bears drinking pizz and eating rotten dead animals is done more for the shock value than actual survival...imo

 

les burns valuable energy playing the harmonica when he should be concentrating on not dying. pretty focking stupid.

[swamp dog 0]

 

Too funny. I know exactly what you mean. I think it's actually kind of cool to see that sometimes, despite your best efforts and knowledge, you can invest a lot of time in something that doesn't pay off - or goes up in smoke.

 

I don't know who's better or worse. Frankly, I keep rooting from Bear Gryls to become Bear Poop. I think he's entertaining as all hell. I just think it'd be funny to see him get attacked by a bear, but that's just me.

 

I agree with the earlier poster. It's a documentary - and, contrary to popular belief - documentaries aren't all 'real'. Events are staged, rigged, etc. - to replicate what could happen sometime when the cameras AREN'T around. I don't need Bear to spend 8 hours lying on the ground for me to get the idea that it's cold and hard to sleep outside. The fact that he might be mocking that up to make the point doesn't offend me. The same thing goes with the hunger - I don't care if he just ate a double cheeseburger off camera and THEN caught a fish and ate it raw. It makes the point. I understand that lost people get hungry.

 

Personally, I think all the about him is stupid (for the reasons listed above). They're both entertaining. Bear is more dramatic, Les is more realistic. But 'realistic' doesn't mean great tv. Watching him make a fish hook and never catch a fish is a little . Watching Bear catch one with his hands and eat it raw - Good TV.

 

if you get caught in the wild with les, immediately in the first five minutes start eating all the focking tree bark and moss you can stomach: that stupid fock isn't going to help you get any fresh meat of any kind.

[pinfish_mauler 0]

On one episode of Man vs Wild Bear drank his own urine and before the day was up he had to build a hammock in a tree to stay above flood waters...jeez. Bears drinking pizz and eating rotten dead animals is done more for the shock value than actual survival...imo

 

the funniest thing about that episode? The very next week on Survivorman, Les recommended that you NEVER drink piss in a survival situation due to the toxins.

[Frank M 181]

Wrong.

 

Proof: Les deliberately let his sled dog team and most of his supplies go. That was a Bear Gryls moment if ever there was one.

And: Didn't anybody else ask "What the fock happened to those poor dogs?"

 

Dude, he said that stuff happens a lot and the dogs will always follow the trail back to the village.

 

 

ETA Bear is a phag.

[GettnHuge 2]

the funniest thing about that episode? The very next week on Survivorman, Les recommended that you NEVER drink piss in a survival situation due to the toxins.

 

and Les is wrong. Urine is sterile when fresh and it's over 95% water.

[wiffleball 4,789]

and Les is wrong. Urine is sterile when fresh and it's over 95% water.

 

 

I read this one fascinating story. It was guys who were shipwrecked off of Africa. They went through multiple 6-8, something distillations of their own pixx. That last batch musta been hell nasty.

 

Great read. It was written before Lincoln was born. And was one of the books that Lincoln said really impressed him. Called Adventures in Africa as I recall.

[wiffleball 4,789]

Dude, he said that stuff happens a lot and the dogs will always follow the trail back to the village.

ETA Bear is a phag.

 

 

So, Bear also uses the same justification for doing HIS stupid chit too. "I don't recommend getting into ________, but if you DO".

 

 

And, Les also said the dogs had been known to take days and days to traverse as far back and 100 miles on their own. From what the show showed us, Les had been at least two days out of his base camp - which was miles away from the 'secutiry camp' where his crew was- and both were miles from town.

 

So, even assuming the dogs only had to go back two days, who's gonna feed them for those two days? Their little doggie paws can't open the food container. And, who's going to break up the fights so that one or more dogs don't get mauled to death?

 

- Was a definitely focked up moment.

[CantTouchThis 23]

Well, this is basically the rundown...

 

Bear = Much more skilled at surviving/outdoorsman, more entertaining to watch. However, he has a camera crew and sometimes he cheats, which is not too bad but still he loses a bit of credibility. Plus, half of the things he does 99% of the human population can't do, he is freakin insane, really good show.

 

Les= ALOT more down to earth, which i like a lot. Most of the things he does almost anyone can do. Not as entertaining, but, the fact that he does his own shooting and does a really good job of it is really amazing. Plus, he never cheats, and in his behind the scenes episode he was really honest saying how there is a saftey camp usually within a couple miles of him, and how they scout out the survival spot before hand, ect. Also how in AK a boat came by his camp, and in Labrador, snowmobilers came by his dog team and chatted and could've easily been rescued but wanted to shoot the show obviously.

 

I mean, if you think these guys go out and it is actually like being alone in the wild where they have to find their own way out or die, well, you are pretty naive then. It is TV, they are not going to truly risk their lives to shoot it, they do in many ways, but, they have saftey very close or a phone call away because you never know when they will be in real danger, like when Les was chased by a jaguar in the amazon....

[Frank M 181]

Well, this is basically the rundown...

 

Bear = Much more skilled at surviving/outdoorsman, more entertaining to watch. However, he has a camera crew and sometimes he cheats, which is not too bad but still he loses a bit of credibility. Plus, half of the things he does 99% of the human population can't do, he is freakin insane, really good show.

 

Les= ALOT more down to earth, which i like a lot. Most of the things he does almost anyone can do. Not as entertaining, but, the fact that he does his own shooting and does a really good job of it is really amazing. Plus, he never cheats, and in his behind the scenes episode he was really honest saying how there is a saftey camp usually within a couple miles of him, and how they scout out the survival spot before hand, ect. Also how in AK a boat came by his camp, and in Labrador, snowmobilers came by his dog team and chatted and could've easily been rescued but wanted to shoot the show obviously.

 

I mean, if you think these guys go out and it is actually like being alone in the wild where they have to find their own way out or die, well, you are pretty naive then. It is TV, they are not going to truly risk their lives to shoot it, they do in many ways, but, they have saftey very close or a phone call away because you never know when they will be in real danger, like when Les was chased by a jaguar in the amazon....

 

I don't know, man. If you're camping in the middle of bear or lion territory, it won't matter if your safety camp is a couple of miles away or if you have a cell phone when you get attacked.

[Frank M 181]

I will admit, though, that Bear has done more wild shiot. He eats a huge spider in this vid:

 

Nasty

[swamp dog 0]

I will admit, though, that Bear has done more wild shiot. He eats a huge spider in this vid:

 

Nasty

 

i agree with those who say bear is more over-the-top and panders to the camera more and that les is more "down the earth." but to me that's not the point. if the cameras are off and there's a real emergency, you'll want bear on your side more so than les.

 

while he does things he shouldn't just for shock value and/or tv entertainment, in the REAL world you gotta believe he's a bad-ass mofo when it comes to this shiat (think he was with some elite brit military outfit or something in real life?) after the big one and you're running for the hills, follow bear, not les. free tip.

[wiffleball 4,789]

I swear, one of my favorite Bear moments was when he's 'all alone' at night after a few days in the wild. He starts to go off on the 'desperate loneliness' he felt after days without anybody to talk to.

 

 

I'm like, "couldn't you just chat up the camera guy filming you right now? Or the guy with the boom mike? Or the..."

[Snuff 10]

[bear]....why just last year in this very same ravine, a couple of hikers almost met their demise when there was a flash flood. Luckily for them, they escaped![/bear]

[HTH 95]

I recently saw an episode of man vs. wild in which bear sets his shelter on fire by accident. Also saw my first survivorman episode a few days ago. Tough choice between the two, but I'd prolly go with bear in a survival type situation.