Green Bay Coach and GM

[IMMensaMind 462]

I do have to hand it to you and don....despite how things are...you guys are coming up with excuse after excuse..weird hypotheticals...what ifs...youve covered it all...it cant be easy for you 2...i applaud you both

its easier on my end just simply pointing to the standings....

 

You cannot be this stupid. It's obvious to anyone with a football mind that the only real problem with Green Bay's offense is the O-line. I can honestly say right now that I believe that our best O-lineman is a rookie: T.J. Lang. If you cannot see how dramatically a poor O-line hampers the performance of a team, you are beyond help, and likely not worth the effort it takes to type these words.

 

Rodgers' stats are at the top of the NFL, despite this shitty O-line. You mark my words: if Green Bay fixes their O-line in upcoming years, Rodgers will win an MVP.

 

By your addled logic, simply pointing out the clear fault of the team is "making excuses". By that standard, there is no point in having any conversation about any team, or on how any team could improve. Since Rodgers' stats are at the top of the league, how do you propose that Favre would have done any better with the same situation? You can't seem to acknowledge that we've seen Favre's performances under such circumstances, and they - while exciting - weren't any better.

 

Child: please.

[IMMensaMind 462]

I admit I only read SOME of the posts on here, because there is a lot of crap! You have Favre haters and you have Favre die hards, I am neither. I do however believe looking at his career stats that he is the greatest QB to play the game, INT's included! If you look at all the hall of fame QB's a lot of them have worse QB ratings then Favre! Favre owns every QB stat by miles, most will not be broken for a LONG, LONG time!

 

That said, 13-3 was Favre's record his last year in GB with an offensive line very similiar to the one Rodgers had, in fact the team was almost the same, Driver, Jennings, Ryan Grant. So you can cut the BS about if Favre played for them now! Farve makes plays happen, just watch the highlights of the games this year. A 50+ yard pass to the back of the endzone where only his receiver could get it for the winning TD! The guy is a great player, last season was a fluke, you try playing with a torn bicep that need surgery to fix. You would probably be on your a$$ crying like a baby!

 

As for Rodgers, he is a young QB that is playing really well! He has a lot of upside, I know because I have had him on my FF team for three years now, three years ago I had him and Brett Farve, worked out well. The thing about Rodgers is he can't make plays like Favre can, he hasn't learned that yet, and I am not sure if it is something you could learn! Either it is going to happen next two seasons, or he is just not going to have it!

 

That is the one thing that seperated Favre from other QB's, he could overcome his mistakes with great plays! How many times has he WON the game for the Vikes by making plays this year? I can think of atleast 2 sitting here!

 

Rodgers will be a great QB in this league and put up big points, but until he learns to make big plays when they count then he will always be in Favre's shadow!

 

To the bold: um...NO. You're not even close. This O-line is positively awful. The problem, however, is being compounded by odd play calling, a complete abandonment of the screen play, and Rodgers' increasingly frustrating desire to throw a home-run, and not start his progressions on short routes - as well as the desire to throw to only blatantly open players. Rodgers is young, remember. Favre never had this type of pressure on him when he started his GB career.

 

Rodgers is doing fine. The team will improve. I want to see Cowher, as I believe one of the main factors hampering the effort is a lack of leadership and discipline, and that includes any from McCarthy.

[AintNoStoppinMeNow 68]

I was watching the ESPN Fantasy show this morning and they stated there was a closed door meeting in Green Bay where the o-line actually yelled at Rodgers for holding on to the ball too long. Any truth to this? I figured we would've heard a lot more about this if it was true...

[donhaas 18]

[BMoney 0]

 

 

atta baby!! you've been waiting since last november to be able to post the

[BMoney 0]

You cannot be this stupid. It's obvious to anyone with a football mind that the only real problem with Green Bay's offense is the O-line. I can honestly say right now that I believe that our best O-lineman is a rookie: T.J. Lang. If you cannot see how dramatically a poor O-line hampers the performance of a team, you are beyond help, and likely not worth the effort it takes to type these words.

 

Rodgers' stats are at the top of the NFL, despite this shitty O-line. You mark my words: if Green Bay fixes their O-line in upcoming years, Rodgers will win an MVP.

 

 

not worth the effort to type those words? then why do it? I guess your football mind doesnt see any qb taking sacks....

 

rodgers will win an MVP?

 

um...sure, he will...for your fantasy league....

[IMMensaMind 462]

not worth the effort to type those words? then why do it? I guess your football mind doesnt see any qb taking sacks....

 

rodgers will win an MVP?

 

um...sure, he will...for your fantasy league....

 

I take it from the above statement that you don't see how a bad O-line can so dramatically affect a team? I did, after all, explain - clearly - that the only way it wasn't worth my time to continue to write in response to your incorrect comments was if you really honestly didn't see how important a solid O-line is.

 

Is that the position you want to hold?

 

And if you cannot see just how good Rodgers is capable of being, you are the one in fantasy land.

 

Green Bay played a complete - and great - game today, completely dominating a very good opponent. That seems to have bothered you for some reason.

[donhaas 18]

atta baby!! you've been waiting since last november to be able to post the

 

This coulda been bumped at just about any time.... Rodgers passer rating has been tops in the league (or near it) all year....

 

Nothing has really changed too much... wait... let me check....

 

Nope...

 

 

--Favre is still 40 years old and has no future in this league.... The Vikings are done when he's done and perhaps sooner if the old man gets a bicep injury or something else that he may or may not later disclose

 

--Rodgers is still 25 years old and is already one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Give him an offensive line and an all-world back and he'll be even better, which is scary.

 

He's going to be here for 15 years.

Favre is done soon

 

 

 

Right decision was still made....

 

 

 

 

How are the Seahawks doing?

How are the Bears doing?

 

 

Terrible, of course...

 

if they weren't, you wouldn't be so obsessed with the Packers

[IMMensaMind 462]

I was watching the ESPN Fantasy show this morning and they stated there was a closed door meeting in Green Bay where the o-line actually yelled at Rodgers for holding on to the ball too long. Any truth to this? I figured we would've heard a lot more about this if it was true...

 

That was just sensationalist reporting. They had a team meeting, where they all stood up and aired their concerns. Rodgers stood up first, and took some blame for holding on to the ball too long. He also pointed out things that needed improving, including some aspects of play calling. Driver went next, and did the same.

 

The O-line never "yelled" at Rodgers. This meeting made them more cohesive, and hopefully is a step towards Rodgers becoming a more vocal leader, which is what this team needs.

 

I predict that the leader of the Defense will eventually become Clay Matthews. That boy can play.

[donhaas 18]

not worth the effort to type those words? then why do it? I guess your football mind doesnt see any qb taking sacks....

 

rodgers will win an MVP?

 

um...sure, he will...for your fantasy league....

 

 

I'll make you a bet..... Rodgers stats will at least four times as good as Favre's over the next 15 years...

 

 

 

You and Sweetness still at the Bed & Breakfast from this weekend???..... Usually each of you would have 15 posts each on this thread by now....

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you guys are too busy on a Bears and a Seahawks thread talking about the greatness of both of those Lion-like franchises past, present, and future and analyzing your big wins from the weekend!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

 

 

:pointstosky:

[donhaas 18]

P.S. Where/are you two in Door County??? I think you just missed the beautiful colors.... You probably had to sneak Sweetness34 in.... they don't like FIBs up there

[BMoney 0]

I take it from the above statement that you don't see how a bad O-line can so dramatically affect a team? I did, after all, explain - clearly - that the only way it wasn't worth my time to continue to write in response to your incorrect comments was if you really honestly didn't see how important a solid O-line is.

 

Is that the position you want to hold?

 

And if you cannot see just how good Rodgers is capable of being, you are the one in fantasy land.

 

Green Bay played a complete - and great - game today, completely dominating a very good opponent. That seems to have bothered you for some reason.

 

 

no, it didnt bother me at all..my friends and I were there....

 

a nice win over the cowpokes...but I still wont drink the rodgers koolaid....favre doesnt miss the wide open passes to receivers in the endzone....

 

it was romo and the packers D that got this win...rodgers did nothing to wow anyone who is a realist..but you have him in your fantasy league..so there you go...

 

and yes, its the position I want to hold...Ive seen him in enough games and at practices to come up with that opinion....

[BMoney 0]

P.S. Where/are you two in Door County??? I think you just missed the beautiful colors.... You probably had to sneak Sweetness34 in.... they don't like FIBs up there

 

 

the only thing that makes you happier than a win over dallas, is some good man on man talk...cringe..

 

sorry, I never go to door county, even though I live here in gb...my cottage is in oconto county....i prefer it there....but I know what place you are talking about...you are a legend up there at the gay head and breakfast place...

 

am i supposed to be talkative? went to the game and lived it up..and was out til close the night before..windell the beer man was out

 

im not that young anymore...it makes mondays tough....but im sorry i havent posted enough to make you smile....

 

as soon as aaron starts throwing the way the old man is, let me know, ok?

 

the D won the game..not aarons dilfer-like performance...funny how you think thats a great game now...

 

but all in all...a solid win....i agree with you on the line and world class back..but throw in a qb also...

 

and favres healthy now..he isnt going anywhere for awhile....rodgers is still getting hit hard...so dont jinx it

[BMoney 0]

Green Bay played a complete - and great - game today, completely dominating a very good opponent. That seems to have bothered you for some reason.

 

and no, it wasnt a complete win...you mustve slept during the first half....you need to consider special teams and offense if you say complete...juts helpin ya there...

 

it was a game won by the great play of the D...

 

but yes its true, at 4tds now, havner is moving up closer to pro bowl alternate territory...sorry, donald lee...

[Sho Nuff 720]

my cottage is in oconto county....

the D won the game..not aarons dilfer-like performance...funny how you think thats a great game now...

 

Where at in Oconto Co?

Family has a cottage up on Berry Lake up there.

 

As for Rodgers...yes, the D won the game...but to call Rodgers performance Dilfer-like shows again your bias against him.

The throws on the 3rd and longs during the long drive were throws Dilfer could never make.

He did not play a great game...but hardly a bad or Dilfer kind of day if you actually watched the plays that were made.

[BMoney 0]

This coulda been bumped at just about any time.... Rodgers passer rating has been tops in the league (or near it) all year....

 

Nothing has really changed too much... wait... let me check....

 

Nope...

--Favre is still 40 years old and has no future in this league.... The Vikings are done when he's done and perhaps sooner if the old man gets a bicep injury or something else that he may or may not later disclose

 

--Rodgers is still 25 years old and is already one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Give him an offensive line and an all-world back and he'll be even better, which is scary.

 

He's going to be here for 15 years.

Favre is done soon

 

you are right..nothing has changed..this is still the same team that lost at tampa

 

but as far as rodgers and 15 years...he wont be here that longand he wont make it through this season....

 

sorry

[BMoney 0]

Where at in Oconto Co?

Family has a cottage up on Berry Lake up there.

 

As for Rodgers...yes, the D won the game...but to call Rodgers performance Dilfer-like shows again your bias against him.

The throws on the 3rd and longs during the long drive were throws Dilfer could never make.

He did not play a great game...but hardly a bad or Dilfer kind of day if you actually watched the plays that were made.

 

 

nah..the dilfer-like comments is just a joke aimed at don because he loves referencing dilfer....and dilfer could make some of those throws also..not many..but some..dilfer wasnt as awful as he tries to make him sound..and i dont think rodgers is the greatest thing ever..so its a draw...i think don makes the same comments at halftime...

 

but thank you tony homo and roy williams..and yes, clay matthews is a beast..have to hand it to TT on that one...i just thought the offense was pretty pedestrian on the day..

 

its the side im on and im cool with people being able to get back on the bandwagon and cheer again in the 2nd half..as i said..the fans here are a bit fickle and will turn on you in a heartbeat..there was a lot of booing in the first half..half aimed at the players..and MMs playcalling..after the sneak, youd have thought we were 9-0..sweet...

 

this team should win the next 2...

 

and the cottage is in mountain...on the north branch of the oconto river....not too far from where the big tornado hit about 3-4 years back...

[donhaas 18]

the only thing that makes you happier than a win over dallas, is some good man on man talk...cringe..

 

I was kinda thinking you and Sweetness would venture up there as good friends who enjoy some good delusional anti-Packer talk, but if you want to bring the whole "homosexual love" into the equation, that probably says much more about you (and your feelings towards Sweetness!) than me..

 

[IMMensaMind 462]

no, it didnt bother me at all..my friends and I were there....

 

a nice win over the cowpokes...but I still wont drink the rodgers koolaid....favre doesnt miss the wide open passes to receivers in the endzone....

 

it was romo and the packers D that got this win...rodgers did nothing to wow anyone who is a realist..but you have him in your fantasy league..so there you go...

 

and yes, its the position I want to hold...Ive seen him in enough games and at practices to come up with that opinion....

 

Now you're just shifting goalposts in your argument. Rodger's stats are on top of the league. That alone should focus your attention on other matters on the team primarily, but you continue to swing your diminutive boner in Rodger's direction. Do you have a reverse man crush, or something?

 

Favre's a great player, I don't know who would be saying otherwise in your attempt to make it a "Favre vs. Rodgers" thing, but Favre nearly singlehandedly lost that NFC Championship game vs. the Giants two seasons ago, and you seem to have conveniently forgotten not only that, but the fact that - at 40 years old - his days in the NFL are numbered, and our team efforts should be to sustain the viability of winning.

 

We would have lost Rodgers had Favre stayed: and there seems to be indication that Favre didn't want to stay in Green Bay regardless. What, therefore, is your point? You need look only 90 miles south of Wisconsin to encounter a very real reason why Pro-Bowl caliber QBs are very important to hold on to. How many QBs has Chicago gone through since Favre started with Green Bay in their attempt to find one that can make the rest of the team a contender? 17?

 

At this point, we have a pro-bowl caliber QB going forward, and one who has made it through - arguably - the worst protection stretch he'll ever encounter in his career. Let's just see what shapes up. Even this season isn't yet lost.

[donhaas 18]

Now you're just shifting goalposts in your argument. Rodger's stats are on top of the league. That alone should focus your attention on other matters on the team primarily, but you continue to swing your diminutive boner in Rodger's direction. Do you have a reverse man crush, or something?

 

Favre's a great player, I don't know who would be saying otherwise in your attempt to make it a "Favre vs. Rodgers" thing, but Favre nearly singlehandedly lost that NFC Championship game vs. the Giants two seasons ago, and you seem to have conveniently forgotten not only that, but the fact that - at 40 years old - his days in the NFL are numbered, and our team efforts should be to sustain the viability of winning.

 

We would have lost Rodgers had Favre stayed: and there seems to be indication that Favre didn't want to stay in Green Bay regardless. What, therefore, is your point? You need look only 90 miles south of Wisconsin to encounter a very real reason why Pro-Bowl caliber QBs are very important to hold on to. How many QBs has Chicago gone through since Favre started with Green Bay in their attempt to find one that can make the rest of the team a contender? 17?

 

At this point, we have a pro-bowl caliber QB going forward, and one who has made it through - arguably - the worst protection stretch he'll ever encounter in his career. Let's just see what shapes up. Even this season isn't yet lost.

 

 

 

And the thread comes to a halt.....

 

No more need for silly discussion....

 

Good posting

[remote controller 143]

Sweetness34, BMoney, and Swamp Dog

Now that was kinda funny! Are you kidding me? That is a real competition, or is that SNL?

[remote controller 143]

And the thread comes to a halt.....

 

No more need for silly discussion....

 

Good posting

Nope! Favre is better right now.

[IMMensaMind 462]

Nope! Favre is better right now.

 

Your point - while technically correct in some ways - is completely moot. We both know that their situations are not comparable, and we also both know that Rodgers has more than a decade of football in front of him, while Favre does not.

 

And that is the over-arching issue here.

[donhaas 18]

Now that was kinda funny! Are you kidding me? That is a real competition, or is that SNL?

 

BMoney is the guy with the mustache

[BMoney 0]

Now you're just shifting goalposts in your argument. Rodger's stats are on top of the league. That alone should focus your attention on other matters on the team primarily, but you continue to swing your diminutive boner in Rodger's direction. Do you have a reverse man crush, or something?

 

Favre's a great player, I don't know who would be saying otherwise in your attempt to make it a "Favre vs. Rodgers" thing, but Favre nearly singlehandedly lost that NFC Championship game vs. the Giants two seasons ago, and you seem to have conveniently forgotten not only that, but the fact that - at 40 years old - his days in the NFL are numbered, and our team efforts should be to sustain the viability of winning.

 

We would have lost Rodgers had Favre stayed: and there seems to be indication that Favre didn't want to stay in Green Bay regardless. What, therefore, is your point? You need look only 90 miles south of Wisconsin to encounter a very real reason why Pro-Bowl caliber QBs are very important to hold on to. How many QBs has Chicago gone through since Favre started with Green Bay in their attempt to find one that can make the rest of the team a contender? 17?

 

At this point, we have a pro-bowl caliber QB going forward, and one who has made it through - arguably - the worst protection stretch he'll ever encounter in his career. Let's just see what shapes up. Even this season isn't yet lost.

 

nearly singlehandedly lost the giants game? not only is that not true..but i was there..I havent forgotten about jarrett bush, al harris or all of the missed field goals by jay feely...favre was great the week before..you conveniently ignore that....

 

indication from who that favre wanted out? favre came back and wanted to stay..he wanted them to make a choice..him or TT and now, a year and a half later, favres healthy and playing great and people here want TT ousted...I find it amusing, thats all...

 

and despite your poor efforts...its not a favre vs rodgers thing...ive said that i think aaron is playing as well as he ever will..hes been great...all ive ever asked is when will people finally point a little blame at aaron? this year, finally, people are starting to....

 

i wouldnt trust a GM that would run the leader of a 13-3 team out of town just so he can plug his guy in....

 

and if you wan to go crazy over stats piled up vs bad teams and in garbage time vs great teams.,..be my guest..i dont hear as much love for the matt schaubs of the world..

 

its funny..the same fans defending aron today booed him during the first half...

[BMoney 0]

Your point - while technically correct in some ways - is completely moot. We both know that their situations are not comparable, and we also both know that Rodgers has more than a decade of football in front of him, while Favre does not.

 

And that is the over-arching issue here.

 

 

you dont know that aaron has a decade left...there was a time that people thought alex smith did also...

[BMoney 0]

I was kinda thinking you and Sweetness would venture up there as good friends who enjoy some good delusional anti-Packer talk, but if you want to bring the whole "homosexual love" into the equation, that probably says much more about you (and your feelings towards Sweetness!) than me..

 

 

 

anti-packers talk? why? i went to the game again sunday, did you? i cheered on the pack...im just a realist about the whole rodgers situation, thats all...

 

189 yards passing..5 sacks...hey, it was a big win and thats great..the D was much more agressive and it worked out beautifully...but lets not pretend that it was a complete win...

[Sho Nuff 720]

Now that was kinda funny! Are you kidding me? That is a real competition, or is that SNL?

 

The ass slap was priceless.

[Sho Nuff 720]

nearly singlehandedly lost the giants game? not only is that not true..but i was there..I havent forgotten about jarrett bush, al harris or all of the missed field goals by jay feely...favre was great the week before..you conveniently ignore that....

 

indication from who that favre wanted out? favre came back and wanted to stay..he wanted them to make a choice..him or TT and now, a year and a half later, favres healthy and playing great and people here want TT ousted...I find it amusing, thats all...

 

and despite your poor efforts...its not a favre vs rodgers thing...ive said that i think aaron is playing as well as he ever will..hes been great...all ive ever asked is when will people finally point a little blame at aaron? this year, finally, people are starting to....

 

i wouldnt trust a GM that would run the leader of a 13-3 team out of town just so he can plug his guy in....

 

and if you wan to go crazy over stats piled up vs bad teams and in garbage time vs great teams.,..be my guest..i dont hear as much love for the matt schaubs of the world..

 

its funny..the same fans defending aron today booed him during the first half...

 

Indication from Aikman after talking with Favre this year...as reported by Aikman and Andrew Brandt on NFP before the 2nd game against the Vikings this year.

If you think people were booing Rodgers during the first half of the game and not other things...you are a bit delusional.

[donhaas 18]

.its not a favre vs rodgers thing...ive said that i think aaron is playing as well as he ever will..hes been great...

 

First off... you've never said "Aaron's been great".... your ragging on him is what has kept this thread alive for 13 pages.... How can you lie when there is 13 pages of evidence.... That is Swampdoggian-like stupidity and/or delusionality

 

Second off.... "as well as he ever will"???? Was Favre playing "as well as ever" in his second year or was he still tossing bonehead interceptions and still learning the game?

Do you know any quarterback that played "as well as he ever will" through one and a half seasons?

 

 

I wish you'd stop talking.... It was pretty funny at first, but now your act has gone stale.... You are reaching/contradicting yourself/just trying to be a troll.

 

Swamp Dog did it much better....

 

RIP

[BMoney 0]

First off... you've never said "Aaron's been great".... your ragging on him is what has kept this thread alive for 13 pages.... How can you lie when there is 13 pages of evidence.... That is Swampdoggian-like stupidity and/or delusionality

 

Second off.... "as well as he ever will"???? Was Favre playing "as well as ever" in his second year or was he still tossing bonehead interceptions and still learning the game?

Do you know any quarterback that played "as well as he ever will" through one and a half seasons?

I wish you'd stop talking.... It was pretty funny at first, but now your act has gone stale.... You are reaching/contradicting yourself/just trying to be a troll.

 

Swamp Dog did it much better....

 

RIP

 

Aarons been around since 05...that, and the situation of bretts 2nd year is better...brett was the best option at the time and it paid off....

 

this situation is aaron in his 2nd year knowing brett couldve still been here...youre silly if you think bretts not playing well, now that hes finally healthy...

 

and i HAVE said that aarons played great...said so after the first vikings game...last years colts game etc...there have been other packers threads on here..sorry, that you havent found them yet

 

you wish id stop talking because im right...

[BMoney 0]

Indication from Aikman after talking with Favre this year...as reported by Aikman and Andrew Brandt on NFP before the 2nd game against the Vikings this year.

If you think people were booing Rodgers during the first half of the game and not other things...you are a bit delusional.

 

 

I was there...I heard a few people yell at rodgers and boo him....

 

as i noted elsewhere..they also booed the playcalling also...but sorry, they booed aaron also...he took 2 sacks that 95% of the other qbs toss away...that, and the idiotic penalties are irritating people...

 

Ive heard from more than 1 source that favre wanted to come back and wanted it to be either brett or ted...sources including ron wolf, chris havel, greg bedard, a couple of players and other media types...

 

who knows what the truth is? all i know is..aaron was booed in the first half and cheered in the 2nd...no need for you and don to take it personal..it happens..he still went crazy for 189 yards and 5 sacks...

[phillybear 366]

a Bears and a Seahawks thread talking about the greatness of both of those Lion-like franchises past, present, and future and analyzing your big wins from the weekend!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

 

I'm glad I wandered by.

 

We didn't start the Seahawks vs The World feud around here. We are simply fighting back. Although, it will probably take over the FFT Matrix in very Smith-like fashion. Spread to every thread.

 

And please don't lump in the Seahawks with Chicago and Detroit. We have been a much more successful franchise than either one of those dregs for about 15 years or so now, if not longer. We even have a higher caliber of FFT poster.

[BMoney 0]

Indication from Aikman after talking with Favre this year...as reported by Aikman and Andrew Brandt on NFP before the 2nd game against the Vikings this year.

If you think people were booing Rodgers during the first half of the game and not other things...you are a bit delusional.

 

 

also, if you read more from andrew, if you choose to believe that..and i believe everyone knows some of what happened....

 

the packers were never straight forward with brett...they never tried to improve around him...they couldnt wait to get aaron in there...

 

again, i have nothing against aaron...i have an issue with the 3 stooges....any GM who would treat his franchise like that deserved more scrutiny than he ever received...

[BMoney 0]

I'm glad I wandered by.

 

We didn't start the Seahawks vs The World feud around here. We are simply fighting back. Although, it will probably take over the FFT Matrix in very Smith-like fashion. Spread to every thread.

 

And please don't lump in the Seahawks with Chicago and Detroit. We have been a much more successful franchise than either one of those dregs for about 15 years or so now, if not longer. We even have a higher caliber of FFT poster.

 

 

you couldve wandered by the past 2 weeks, but there was no endless giggling by don after the minny or tb game....

[donhaas 18]

Aarons been around since 05...that, and the situation of bretts 2nd year is better...brett was the best option at the time and it paid off....

 

this situation is aaron in his 2nd year knowing brett couldve still been here...youre silly if you think bretts not playing well, now that hes finally healthy...

 

and i HAVE said that aarons played great...said so after the first vikings game...last years colts game etc...there have been other packers threads on here..sorry, that you havent found them yet

 

you wish id stop talking because im right...

 

You're like the guy on Spinal Tap who keeps saying: "But this one goes to 11!!!!"

 

No one says Brett isn't playing well... But if he came back to the Packers he wouldn't be playing with AP and that great offensive line....... Why are you so dense about this?

The league high sacks that Rodgers is taking.... go ahead and double that with immobile Favre... or add 20-some INTs for Favre's total as he throws into coverage because he's tired of getting sacked....

 

You choose.....

 

Favre would be playing with the worst o-line in the league.... Last time Favre played under adverse circumstances: 29 INTS and 4-12

 

Rodgers, in only his second season, is turning out light years better than your, Swamp Dog's, or Sweetness's wildest dreams.

He has 15 years ahead of him to keep getting better, but what he's doing right now with this crapass o-line is scary good.

Favre is done after this season if not sooner...

As would the Packers future with no quarterback.

 

Right decision made.

 

 

This thread: Humungous FAIL!

[Sho Nuff 720]

I was there...I heard a few people yell at rodgers and boo him....

 

as i noted elsewhere..they also booed the playcalling also...but sorry, they booed aaron also...he took 2 sacks that 95% of the other qbs toss away...that, and the idiotic penalties are irritating people...

 

Ive heard from more than 1 source that favre wanted to come back and wanted it to be either brett or ted...sources including ron wolf, chris havel, greg bedard, a couple of players and other media types...

 

who knows what the truth is? all i know is..aaron was booed in the first half and cheered in the 2nd...no need for you and don to take it personal..it happens..he still went crazy for 189 yards and 5 sacks...

 

In this past game?

95%? BS...freaking hilarious actually.

Wow...you heard 2 or 3 people boo him for taking a sack...awesome.

 

Favre claims he wanted to come back...the rumors of his agent shopping him in April, plus now Aikman's thoughts which Brandt thinks reflect the attitude that Favre showed while talking to Aikman before a game seem to indicate otherwise.

 

I don't take it personal.

Oh...and he only gave up 4 sacks...one of them when Ware was completely left to go after him untouched.

Got lucky on the other penalty for illegal hands to the face where a corner came free as well.

But Im sure 95% of QBs would have thrown those away right?

And one of the sacks he was about back at the LOS so pretty much the same as if he had been able to throw it away rather than moving up to escape the pressure.

[BMoney 0]

In this past game?

95%? BS...freaking hilarious actually.

Wow...you heard 2 or 3 people boo him for taking a sack...awesome.

 

Favre claims he wanted to come back...the rumors of his agent shopping him in April, plus now Aikman's thoughts which Brandt thinks reflect the attitude that Favre showed while talking to Aikman before a game seem to indicate otherwise.

 

I don't take it personal.

Oh...and he only gave up 4 sacks...one of them when Ware was completely left to go after him untouched.

Got lucky on the other penalty for illegal hands to the face where a corner came free as well.

But Im sure 95% of QBs would have thrown those away right?

And one of the sacks he was about back at the LOS so pretty much the same as if he had been able to throw it away rather than moving up to escape the pressure.

 

 

again..as for favre wanting to come back..we may never know the truth for quite some time....but we've all heard opinions stating both...either way, 1 thing andrew does say is the packers didnt want brett back...but were classless about the whole thing....

 

95 is a bit high....with the number of teams..you wouldnt get that % anyway...

 

and i didnt factor in hasselbeck..romo..russell..quinn...

 

so id say 75% would be throwing the ball away....

 

and a few is more than 2 or 3....

[BMoney 0]

You're like the guy on Spinal Tap who keeps saying: "But this one goes to 11!!!!"

 

No one says Brett isn't playing well... But if he came back to the Packers he wouldn't be playing with AP and that great offensive line....... Why are you so dense about this?

The league high sacks that Rodgers is taking.... go ahead and double that with immobile Favre... or add 20-some INTs for Favre's total as he throws into coverage because he's tired of getting sacked....

 

You choose.....

 

Favre would be playing with the worst o-line in the league.... Last time Favre played under adverse circumstances: 29 INTS and 4-12

 

Rodgers, in only his second season, is turning out light years better than your, Swamp Dog's, or Sweetness's wildest dreams.

He has 15 years ahead of him to keep getting better, but what he's doing right now with this crapass o-line is scary good.

Favre is done after this season if not sooner...

As would the Packers future with no quarterback.

 

Right decision made.

This thread: Humungous FAIL!

 

 

no idea about anything concerning spinal tap....

 

but i do know that this isnt the same season as the 4-12 season...things dont just repeat itself..look what youd be missing out if you simply believed that 4-12 would always be 4-12 lol are you related to ol teddy?.....bretts healthier than hes been in years....theyd have won 1 of the vikings games if the 2 had switched teams...and brett wouldve led this team to a win over mighty tampa...

 

you wish that brett was done after this season..you know that isnt the case....

 

he has been light years better than I ever thought...as i said, and you seem to miss...I said this is the best he can play....he's maxing out right now...and even that only equates to taking a 13 win team and going 6-10...and beating 1 team over 500 this year...

 

no wonder you are partying it up at the donhaas house...wooo

 

and the same qb whos not elusive..has played every straight game since 92...yeah, double the sacks..im sure...you think he would ignore the quick dumps to the RBs and TEs?

 

im glad charles woodson gave you a chance to feel silly again...good times...

[Sho Nuff 720]

again..as for favre wanting to come back..we may never know the truth for quite some time....but we've all heard opinions stating both...either way, 1 thing andrew does say is the packers didnt want brett back...but were classless about the whole thing....

 

95 is a bit high....with the number of teams..you wouldnt get that % anyway...

 

and i didnt factor in hasselbeck..romo..russell..quinn...

 

so id say 75% would be throwing the ball away....

 

and a few is more than 2 or 3....

 

I agree we may never know on Favre as far as did he want out. Just pointing out that there is talk about it being that he did not want to be back with GB.

On Brandt...he did say GB was ready to move on...don't recall him calling them classless. He may feel this way and from what I have heard about his disagreements with Thompson and subsequent release, I would not blame him for having ill will...but he certainly has never shown it so it would surprise me if he ever called them classless in anything.

 

I still say your 75% is way high given how that game went and where I think Rodgers did actually see/feel the pressure much better this past game. I did not recall any where I screamed "just throw the damn ball away" this game.