Green Bay Coach and GM

[ashwiggins 0]

Rodgers deserves some of the blame......he holds onto the ball way too long sometimes.

 

I think Packer nation has to start putting some heat on coach Mike. The Puckers came out flat last week against the Vikings......and they couldn't finish off a horrible Bucs team. When a team plays that flat, I think the coach should receive a lot of the blame.

 

10-14 since the beginning of 2008.....and McCarthy has only had one winning season since becoming the head coach....and they're in jeopardy of finishing .500 or worse yet again.

 

 

I agree. Favre gets the ball out quick and he has a faster release. I guess the real point is even if Farve was in GB, they still wouldn't be a great team, they would have more wins, but not a contender.

 

Anyway you look at it though Ted Thompson looks dumbe thinking Farve was washed up. Farve just wanted a chance to compete for the starting job and was denied that, so GB fans need to let it go. TT did Farve a favor by kicking him out of GB, Farve should send him a fruit basket or something.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I agree. Favre gets the ball out quick and he has a faster release. I guess the real point is even if Farve was in GB, they still wouldn't be a great team, they would have more wins, but not a contender.

 

Anyway you look at it though Ted Thompson looks dumbe thinking Farve was washed up. Farve just wanted a chance to compete for the starting job and was denied that, so GB fans need to let it go. TT did Farve a favor by kicking him out of GB, Farve should send him a fruit basket or something.

 

When did Ted ever say Favre was washed up?

Their decision was not based on him being washed up...but not able to run their team and take them to a Super Bowl anymore.

Its not the same thing.

[donhaas 18]

BMoney!

[remote controller 143]

No one says Brett isn't playing well... But if he came back to the Packers he wouldn't be playing with AP and that great offensive line....... Why are you so dense about this?

Brett would easily out perform Rodgers in Rodgers current situation. You are being dense by not accepting that truth! Atleast that's my opinion. I could accept yours if it was your opinion other than something you try to force on those who don't agree with you.

[remote controller 143]

I agree. Favre gets the ball out quick and he has a faster release. I guess the real point is even if Farve was in GB, they still wouldn't be a great team, they would have more wins, but not a contender.

 

Anyway you look at it though Ted Thompson looks dumbe thinking Farve was washed up. Farve just wanted a chance to compete for the starting job and was denied that, so GB fans need to let it go. TT did Farve a favor by kicking him out of GB, Farve should send him a fruit basket or something.

Nice take!

[BMoney 0]

I agree we may never know on Favre as far as did he want out. Just pointing out that there is talk about it being that he did not want to be back with GB.

On Brandt...he did say GB was ready to move on...don't recall him calling them classless. He may feel this way and from what I have heard about his disagreements with Thompson and subsequent release, I would not blame him for having ill will...but he certainly has never shown it so it would surprise me if he ever called them classless in anything.

 

I still say your 75% is way high given how that game went and where I think Rodgers did actually see/feel the pressure much better this past game. I did not recall any where I screamed "just throw the damn ball away" this game.

 

 

well, i agree that gb had a rightt o move on when brett retired..but when he came back, they handled it like clowns..but its past...

 

as for 75%...you have more patience..this was a milwaukee crowd(not everyone cheers or boos...) something about fans from manty on south...

 

but it was a 315 game...plenty of time for drinks..there were people yelling..and i wasnt even one..i was slowly being lulled to sleep by that first half...

[BMoney 0]

When did Ted ever say Favre was washed up?

Their decision was not based on him being washed up...but not able to run their team and take them to a Super Bowl anymore.

Its not the same thing.

 

 

because switching from favre to rodgers has helped their chance at the super bowl..a 6-10 season has given them an easier schedule...7 games on the 09 season are gimmes....

 

the team wouldnt have been better with favre only because TT wasnt going to do anything to help it...he had randy moss for the taking and they passed...feeding us some line about how the fans dont like his attitude..i dont recall him breaking laws in NE... meanwhile, we bring ahman green back..so make sense of that one...

[BMoney 0]

BMoney!

 

 

you spent part of your tuesday looking for clips and thinking about me when you did so? yeah...thats not obsessing much haha....

 

then again..considering your football takes...id resort to finding more clips also, if I were you....

[Sho Nuff 720]

because switching from favre to rodgers has helped their chance at the super bowl..a 6-10 season has given them an easier schedule...7 games on the 09 season are gimmes....

 

the team wouldnt have been better with favre only because TT wasnt going to do anything to help it...he had randy moss for the taking and they passed...feeding us some line about how the fans dont like his attitude..i dont recall him breaking laws in NE... meanwhile, we bring ahman green back..so make sense of that one...

 

The switch was not just made for one or two years....it was a current and long term thing.

If everyone in football operations agrees...and they did...that Favre would never lead them to another title...why stick with him? Loyalty? Spare me the emotional crap, that is for girls.

 

6-10 season gave them 2 games you call gimmes. The Cowboys and the Bucs. THe Bucs should have been...they won the Cowboys game. A team's record only determines 2 games on the year. So quit with the easier schedule. Do you think Detroit feels they got the easier schedule coming out of an 0-16 year when they got to play the Saints?

 

They tried for Randy...although not all out hard...but even he did not want to come here. He said as much once mcCarthy told him what would be expected of him. And Randy did not help a better team beat NY...what makes you think he would have helped the Packers beat them?

[donhaas 18]

you spent part of your tuesday looking for clips and thinking about me when you did so? yeah...thats not obsessing much haha....

 

then again..considering your football takes...id resort to finding more clips also, if I were you....

 

No... you just remind me of the Spinal Tap guy.

 

As for spending the better part of my day searching for it.... your retarded ass might do that... I just typed in "These go to 11" and it was up in 1 second....

 

They got this thing called "youtube" now, BMoney..... It does the searching for you....

To answer your next question: No, you can't access it through your 8-track player .....

 

 

 

You are the one with too much time on your hands, posting 453 times in a team that's not yours simply because your own team sucks so bad.....

If you ever catch me posting 453 times in another team's thread you'll know that the Packers suck -- past, present, and future...

 

 

HTH

[BMoney 0]

No... you just remind me of the Spinal Tap guy.

 

As for spending the better part of my day searching for it.... your retarded ass might do that... I just typed in "These go to 11" and it was up in 1 second....

 

They got this thing called "youtube" now, BMoney..... It does the searching for you....

To answer your next question: No, you can't access it through your 8-track player .....

You are the one with too much time on your hands, posting 453 times in a team that's not yours simply because your own team sucks so bad.....

If you ever catch me posting 453 times in another team's thread you'll know that the Packers suck -- past, present, and future...

HTH

 

 

what are you jabbering about? I didnt even click on the link..sorry....ive heard of youtube..but couldnt care less about spinal tap...

 

people cant cheer for 2 teams?odd..but ok, and ive gone to more packers game and practices in each of the last 4 years than you have..so save your pompous attitude towards who is a fan or not...

[BMoney 0]

The switch was not just made for one or two years....it was a current and long term thing.

If everyone in football operations agrees...and they did...that Favre would never lead them to another title...why stick with him? Loyalty? Spare me the emotional crap, that is for girls.

 

6-10 season gave them 2 games you call gimmes. The Cowboys and the Bucs. THe Bucs should have been...they won the Cowboys game. A team's record only determines 2 games on the year. So quit with the easier schedule. Do you think Detroit feels they got the easier schedule coming out of an 0-16 year when they got to play the Saints?

 

They tried for Randy...although not all out hard...but even he did not want to come here. He said as much once mcCarthy told him what would be expected of him. And Randy did not help a better team beat NY...what makes you think he would have helped the Packers beat them?

 

 

well, they arent going to a title with rodgers....I think most realists would agree that favre gives a team the best chance to win...he hasnt exactly hurt minny..as don insisted he would...

 

 

and randy wanted to come here because of favre....if he didnt want to come here later, it was after learning that favre wasnt in gb's plans....why would he come here and play with rodgers? favre or brady..who can blame him?

 

the lions were 0-16..nothings soft except calvins johnsons pain tolerance..

[BMoney 0]

If you ever catch me posting 453 times in another team's thread you'll know that the Packers suck -- past, present, and future...

HTH

 

 

I would never notice if you posted 453 times anywhere..unlike you, I dont follow other people around and count their posts...

[IMMensaMind 462]

Brett would easily out perform Rodgers in Rodgers current situation. You are being dense by not accepting that truth! Atleast that's my opinion. I could accept yours if it was your opinion other than something you try to force on those who don't agree with you.

 

This is a ridiculous assertion, considering that Brett's numbers are very close to Rodgers in a vastly superior situation.

[IMMensaMind 462]

I agree. Favre gets the ball out quick and he has a faster release. I guess the real point is even if Farve was in GB, they still wouldn't be a great team, they would have more wins, but not a contender.

 

1st off, if they had more wins, they would be a contender, considering that they would be a contender now. Second, I'm curious how you'd have a strong enough basis to contend that they would have more wins, because I believe you are incorrect. They are losing games on defense right now, not offense.

 

Anyway you look at it though Ted Thompson looks dumbe thinking Farve was washed up.

 

Thompson never thought Favre was washed up. He thought Favre was wishy washy, so maybe you're remembering your quotes poorly. In addition, Thompson felt that Favre's arm injury required surgery. Favre disagreed. Of course, halfway through the season in New York, he fell to pieces because of his injury...and then relented and had his surgery in the off-season. Perhaps it was all orchestrated to get him where he is now. That is what I suspect. I know Favre knew his biceps was limiting his strength and accuracy.

 

Farve just wanted a chance to compete for the starting job and was denied that, so GB fans need to let it go.

 

Um...how about NO. Favre didn't want to "compete for the starting job". He wanted the starting job given to him - and when GBP management said that he was welcome to return and compete for it to see if he could beat out Rodgers, he threw a hissy fit. Don't be guilty of revisionist history, or intentionally misreporting.

 

TT did Farve a favor by kicking him out of GB, Farve should send him a fruit basket or something.

 

Favre ended up where Favre wanted to end up. It was better for both parties, but it showed those Packer fans who actually know something about the circumstances who he really is. He is not loyal to the Green Bay Packers; he's loyal to himself.

[IMMensaMind 462]

well, they arent going to a title with rodgers....I think most realists would agree that favre gives a team the best chance to win.

 

What kind of fan dumps on a QB with top 3 statistics in his second year starting and proclaims that he will never take his team to a title? That's pure idiocy - but I think the verdict on you was written about 12 pages ago.

[BMoney 0]

What kind of fan dumps on a QB with top 3 statistics in his second year starting and proclaims that he will never take his team to a title? That's pure idiocy - but I think the verdict on you was written about 12 pages ago.

 

 

pure idiocy? hahahaha....good grief, man...put the kool-aid down....

 

football is more than just stats you can pileup vs bad teams or in garbage time....

 

and brett is part of the vikes superior situation...hes not just along for the ride..hes won games on his own....

 

rodgers will never lead this team to the sb..ill stick with that, minus your childish namecalling...

 

the guy beats a 500 team for the first time in a YEAR and you guys come out from hiding...relax...he isnt THAT good...

 

for the record..the brewers are my favorite team in all of sports..mike cameron had great stats...all the time..but he wont ever lead any team to a title...

 

what kind of fan says that? a realist...not 1 thats living in a fantasy football dream world...

[IMMensaMind 462]

pure idiocy? hahahaha....good grief, man...put the kool-aid down....

 

football is more than just stats you can pileup vs bad teams or in garbage time....

 

and brett is part of the vikes superior situation...hes not just along for the ride..hes won games on his own....

 

rodgers will never lead this team to the sb..ill stick with that, minus your childish namecalling...

 

the guy beats a 500 team for the first time in a YEAR and you guys come out from hiding...relax...he isnt THAT good...

 

for the record..the brewers are my favorite team in all of sports..mike cameron had great stats...all the time..but he wont ever lead any team to a title...

 

what can of fan says that? a realist...not 1 thats living in a fantasy football dream world...

 

Your argument suffers the inconvenience of being completely incorrect. Choosing to highlight Mike Cameron as the player on the Brewers that cannot lead a team to the title is a ridiculous analogy. If you wanted an analogy, you'd pick a key player on the team, like Braun or Fielder.

 

That should be further evidence of just how misled you are in your argument, but you appear blissfully content to continue bloviating nonsensically.

 

You're the one that proclaimed definitively that Rodgers will never lead a team to the Superbowl, as though such a prediction ever carried any more weight than that hefted by a troll. It's obvious to any reasonable poster that no one player is the definitive reason any team makes it to "the title".

[BMoney 0]

Your argument suffers the inconvenience of being completely incorrect. Choosing to highlight Mike Cameron as the player on the Brewers that cannot lead a team to the title is a ridiculous analogy. If you wanted an analogy, you'd pick a key player on the team, like Braun or Fielder.

 

That should be further evidence of just how misled you are in your argument, but you appear blissfully content to continue bloviating nonsensically.

 

You're the one that proclaimed definitively that Rodgers will never lead a team to the Superbowl, as though such a prediction ever carried any more weight than that hefted by a troll. It's obvious to any reasonable poster that no one player is the definitive reason any team makes it to "the title".

 

why would I pick braun or fielder? they have the goods to carry a team to the title..im not surprised that the analogy went over your head...

 

everyone loves cameron and whether you realize it or not, a centerfielder that bats second IS a key part of the team..he has numbers after the season that you love..but game in, game out, he does little things that prevent the team from being better....

 

it takes more than him..but he doesnt help...

 

same with rodgers...

 

and leave the troll comments to someone who doesnt actually go the games and practices..thanks...

 

Im replying right away since im sure you and the others will thin out after future losses...

 

point is...rodgers is a fine qb....

 

all ive ever said is why do people make excuses for him when he fails..and excuses when favre does well?

[IMMensaMind 462]

why would I pick braun or fielder? they have the goods to carry a team to the title..im not surprised that the analogy went over your head...

 

everyone loves cameron and whether you realize it or not, a centerfielder that bats second IS a key part of the team..he has numbers after the season that you love..but game in, game out, he does little things that prevent the team from being better....

 

it takes more than him..but he doesnt help...

 

same with rodgers...

 

and leave the troll comments to someone who doesnt actually go the games and practices..thanks...

 

Im replying right away since im sure you and the others will thin out after future losses...

 

point is...rodgers is a fine qb....

 

all ive ever said is why do people make excuses for him when he fails..and excuses when favre does well?

 

*sigh*

 

You haven't been the target of rebuke in this thread because "that's all you've ever said". And no: not everyone "loves Cameron". In fact, he's had a down year.

 

Also, I have friends on the team, including Rodgers, so there will be no "thinning out" here.

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

rodgers can pile on stats, but he lacks the favre intangables....the stuff that made favre great. you cant learn those .......you either have them or not. the vikings are 8-1 with favre and the pack is 5-4 with rodgers...........the vikes also swept the pack. bad decision my mccarthy and TT. they will regret it for their entire lives.

[buffalobillsffl2003 0]

you're going to regret letting Brian Brohm go.

 

[IMMensaMind 462]

rodgers can pile on stats, but he lacks the favre intangables....the stuff that made favre great. you cant learn those .......you either have them or not. the vikings are 8-1 with favre and the pack is 5-4 with rodgers...........the vikes also swept the pack. bad decision my mccarthy and TT. they will regret it for their entire lives.

 

This should not be a comparison of Favre and Rodgers because (a) that isn't fair; ( no one has the benefit of requiring of themselves a comparison of Favre in his second year to Rodgers in his (because circumstances cannot be comparable enough to allow a fair comparison); © Favre and Rodgers are no where near the same age, rendering Favre's years of serviceability incomparable to Rodgers.

 

Rodgers will be here long after Favre sits - and stays - on his John Deere. Playing Favre would have meant losing Rodgers; it's as simple as that. For a 2nd year QB, he's doing incredibly well.

[Sho Nuff 720]

well, they arent going to a title with rodgers....I think most realists would agree that favre gives a team the best chance to win...he hasnt exactly hurt minny..as don insisted he would...

and randy wanted to come here because of favre....if he didnt want to come here later, it was after learning that favre wasnt in gb's plans....why would he come here and play with rodgers? favre or brady..who can blame him?

 

the lions were 0-16..nothings soft except calvins johnsons pain tolerance..

 

Never going to a title with Rodgers huh? Care to tell me the lottery numbers as well since you know the future.

Randy did not want to come here...once McCarthy told him what would be expected...Randy said no. It had nothing to do with Favre not being in their plans. Now you are just making crap up to argue.

[Sho Nuff 720]

pure idiocy? hahahaha....good grief, man...put the kool-aid down....

 

football is more than just stats you can pileup vs bad teams or in garbage time....

 

and brett is part of the vikes superior situation...hes not just along for the ride..hes won games on his own....

 

rodgers will never lead this team to the sb..ill stick with that, minus your childish namecalling...

 

the guy beats a 500 team for the first time in a YEAR and you guys come out from hiding...relax...he isnt THAT good...

 

for the record..the brewers are my favorite team in all of sports..mike cameron had great stats...all the time..but he wont ever lead any team to a title...

 

what kind of fan says that? a realist...not 1 thats living in a fantasy football dream world...

 

Realist? There is nothing real about comparing a center fielder in baseball to a QB as far as who can lead a team to a title.

[Sho Nuff 720]

you're going to regret letting Brian Brohm go.

 

 

Maybe...but not by anything he has shown so far.

Seems a bit wishful thinking by the Bills fan.

Talented kid...just was never able to put it together in his short time in GB.

and GB did try to match the offer...Brohm just saw he had a better chance at getting to play there than he does in Green Bay.

[donhaas 18]

What kind of fan dumps on a QB with top 3 statistics in his second year starting and proclaims that he will never take his team to a title? That's pure idiocy - but I think the verdict on you was written about 12 pages ago.

 

:pointstosky:

 

 

 

 

He's a troll

[donhaas 18]

rodgers can pile on stats, but he lacks the favre intangables....the stuff that made favre great. you cant learn those .......you either have them or not. the vikings are 8-1 with favre and the pack is 5-4 with rodgers...........the vikes also swept the pack. bad decision my mccarthy and TT.

 

Rodgers punked your Dallas Lions in only his second year.... something Favre couldn't do for his WHOLE CAREER

 

 

 

:pointstosky: :pointstosky:

 

 

they will regret it for their entire lives.

 

When Favre isn't playing next year, and Rodgers is the best quarterback for the next 15 years, the Packers are going to regret it "for the rest of their lives"

 

 

You are a worse troll than BMoney...

Didn't think that was possible

[LOD01 198]

Rodgers punked your Dallas Lions in only his second year.... something Favre couldn't do for his WHOLE CAREER

 

Don't you look like the board clown now.

 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxs...99711230gnb.htm

 

Tard.

[Franknbeans 46]

I love how some of these posters blindly back management. You guys must like to lose.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I love how some of these posters blindly back management. You guys must like to lose.

I love how some posters think agreeing with anything management did as blindly supporting them.

[BMoney 0]

Never going to a title with Rodgers huh? Care to tell me the lottery numbers as well since you know the future.

Randy did not want to come here...once McCarthy told him what would be expected...Randy said no. It had nothing to do with Favre not being in their plans. Now you are just making crap up to argue.

 

 

lottery numbers? first number is 6...second number is 10

 

you are the one totally making stuff up about moss...

[BMoney 0]

Don't you look like the board clown now.

 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxs...99711230gnb.htm

 

Tard.

 

 

Don hasnt been a fan that long....give him a break..he also thinks that favre had a losing record in his first 20 games a Packer...

 

 

plus its true..in his 2nd year, dallas beat gb..but that dallas team also won the super bowl..only don would compare THAT cowboys team to 1 that hasnt won a playoff GAME in 13 years...

 

it was 3-0 in the 3rd quarter....yet people here are holding parades for rodgers....that 150 foot street is about to get renamed for him again soon...

[BMoney 0]

Realist? There is nothing real about comparing a center fielder in baseball to a QB as far as who can lead a team to a title.

 

 

<wooosh> over your head that went....expectedly...the topic was stats...

[BMoney 0]

You are a worse troll than BMoney...

Didn't think that was possible

 

......whos been to more games and practices in the last 3 years than you've been to in the last 7....

 

keep thinking what you want....

[BMoney 0]

*sigh*

 

You haven't been the target of rebuke in this thread because "that's all you've ever said". And no: not everyone "loves Cameron". In fact, he's had a down year.

 

Also, I have friends on the team, including Rodgers, so there will be no "thinning out" here.

 

 

well, I admire you for staying here and sticking out when it gets rough again....it was aimed at others who magically disappear or are "busy" when slumps happen...

 

too many people liked cameron....a cf is very important to a team defense..a 2nd hitter..a guy making 10 mil on the crews payroll...he has numbers everyone looks at and likes in nov...but throughout the year, he does little things that kills rallies..slows a team down....

 

rodgers gets wonderful stats...going to win people their leagues...but throughout games..does the same thing.....

 

he IS good though...but not someone who cant be replaced...he isnt THAT good...thats the point..and if people disagree...super...makes it all fun...

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

the era or A rod in green bay will always be remembered as a time when a mediocore Qb sent a HOf legend Qb out of town. Aaron rodgers will never win a superbowl and when favre gets another title this year or next with the vikes the rodgers fans will have to admit he is a bad mistake the packers will regret for all eternity.

[donhaas 18]

Don't you look like the board clown now.

 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxs...99711230gnb.htm

 

Tard.

 

Board clown?

I missed one game.... One time in 16 years suddenly makes Favre a superstar against the Cowboys?

 

doosh

[donhaas 18]

the era or A rod in green bay will always be remembered as a time when a mediocore Qb sent a HOf legend Qb out of town. Aaron rodgers will never win a superbowl and when favre gets another title this year or next with the vikes the rodgers fans will have to admit he is a bad mistake the packers will regret for all eternity.

 

Yes, Pimp... we heard you the fist time... you need attention... we get it

 

 

 

But you're bringing worse stuff than BMoney, believe it or not

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

If rodgers is so great, then why does a scrub like VY have more wins?