BMoney 0 Posted November 8, 2009 I think you missed the main point.... TT is not evaluating how Brett will play with an awesome o-line, the best RB in the game, a top-5 defense, great special teams, etc. He's evaluating how he's going to play with the youngest team in the league and a shabby offensive line -- running around for his life and gunslinging.... the last time Favre did that (much younger and more talented than he currently is, mind you) we had 29 INTs/4-12 record Favre hasn't all of a sudden become a much better quarterback, he has just found himself in an ideal situation. Culpepper once found himself in an ideal situation and he went for 4,717, 38 TDs, and 11..... In less than ideal situations, Culpepper is a scrub. I journeyman.... [This is a key, key point that you can't come to grips with.... Dilfer is not > Marino.... he found himself in a situation that was much better than Marino's.... he's just one of 53 guys] There's no way that Favre would be doing as good as Rodgers is with this horrendous O-line.... and that's the bottom line.... Well, that and the fact that Favre is old and has no future in this league.... That's the point. Right decision was made. While I definitely don't want to see Favre with the Vikes, I definitely also don't want to see Favre hammered to the ground 100 times, tossing up 29 Ints and our last memory of him as a Packer a dejected, broken-down 4-12 man. I also don't want to see the Packers with no future. And without a quarterback, there is no present or future. Ask Detroit. Ask Chicago. Ask Minnesota both before Brett and after Brett (which will be soon). I understand you are trolling, but I think you've had your hat sufficiently handed to you at this point HTH! Im not trolling...and had it handed to me...really? am i the only one watching the games this year? and why are you still stuck on 4-12? you sing glory days to everyone else and here you are the one who cant let go of the past...thre fact that you compared favre to dilfer officially eliminates you from this thread good grief, dude...favres been accurate as hell and stole a game at the end...dilfer wasnt stealing games with his arm....you lose.. yes, aaron will roll in on tampa and youll be here all giddy and bumping this up..but like the lions, rams, and browns..the bucs are 1 of the worst teams in the league.. TWO...2 winning teams aaron has ever beaten.... and its cool that you call the vikes the greatest team ever in an attempt to downplay brett...you didnt fear them last year with t-jax and you know it...so say brett is juts a player all youd like..but without him, the vikes have more than 1 loss...and if is just another guy..why'd they go through so much to get him? in minny, he didnt have to "compete"..wonder why...any ideas or did you hit your head and lose memory of those 16 years? but you make a good point.....if this packers o-line is as bad as you say it is....no sense wasting a legend on this squad...let some dime a dozen guy get tossed around....a guy who'll get his yards vs awful teams and in blowouts....and everyones happy....the way its going..aaron wont be here in 5 years..no way, no how... as bad as seattle is right now..they have just as much of a future as gb does..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted November 8, 2009 If they switched Olines...I think that would switch around right now. I do have to hand it to you and don....despite how things are...you guys are coming up with excuse after excuse..weird hypotheticals...what ifs...youve covered it all...it cant be easy for you 2...i applaud you both its easier on my end just simply pointing to the standings.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 8, 2009 I do have to hand it to you and don....despite how things are...you guys are coming up with excuse after excuse..weird hypotheticals...what ifs...youve covered it all...it cant be easy for you 2...i applaud you both its easier on my end just simply pointing to the standings.... So you think Favre would be just fine and dandy behind this Packer Oline? I know you like to spin...but wow...its ok to admit this line stinks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted November 8, 2009 Im not trolling...and had it handed to me...really? am i the only one watching the games this year? and why are you still stuck on 4-12? Not really stuck on it. That's are only comparable point to sub-par offensive lines.... The game is completely different for a QB when you have all the time in the world to throw, an RB that is all-world taking up all of the defenses attention, and a top-five defense keeping you safely handed the ball off to said all-world RB and mostly dink and dunk passes. Quarterbacks change when they start to get pressure on them and start to get hit... just look at Brady...... So, Rodgers with a horrible o-line = 4,600 yards, 32 TDs, 4 Ints Favre = 29 INTS, 4-12 It's more so why you keep ignoring it, rather than why I keep bringing it up. TWO...2 winning teams aaron has ever beaten.... Once again, Rodgers plays on a team with 53 players. He's 10-13 in his first 23 games.... very similiar to the great Brett Favre in his first 23 games.... Except Rodgers is playing better, tossing far less interceptions and doesn't have the great Sterling Sharpe... Again... another dumb comparison.... has absolutely nothing to do with our overall discussion on which quarterback the Packers should have moving forward... DUMB and its cool that you call the vikes the greatest team ever in an attempt to downplay brett...you didnt fear them last year with t-jax and you know it...so say brett is juts a player all youd like..but without him, the vikes have more than 1 loss...and if is just another guy..why'd they go through so much to get him? in minny, he didnt have to "compete"..wonder why...any ideas or did you hit your head and lose memory of those 16 years? Tavaris Jackson is a terrible, terrible quarterback.... do not insult Favre by even putting them in the same sentence together... Why are you building this strawman? You've built 3 strawmen in 40 seconds. Is that because you have absolutely no arguments here? but you make a good point.....if this packers o-line is as bad as you say it is....no sense wasting a legend on this squad...let some dime a dozen guy get tossed around....a guy who'll get his yards vs awful teams and in blowouts....and everyones happy....the way its going..aaron wont be here in 5 years..no way, no how... The Vikings are an awful team? Rodgers had two fantastic games against them... More lies, general dumbness, and silly strawman Bmoney is trying to destroy.... Rodgers is the number one passer rating in the league.... on pace for 4600, 32 TDs and 4 Ints with the worst o-line in the league. He's only had one year under his belt... .he will just keep getting better and better.... deal with it Not even Swamp Dog comes with this garbage Old-man Favre would be a sitting duck with this o-line (and if not taking all the painful sacks, then tossing up 29 INTs).... Once again, I'm glad that I don't have to see it. Rodgers is learning the game with this young team..... This is a long-term project; but nobody in the world expected Rodgers to be this good this soon. as bad as seattle is right now..they have just as much of a future as gb does..... The Seattle Lions have no past, no present, and sadly, no future..... That's why you spend all your time in Packer threads HAHAHAHAAHAHAH Truth hurts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBelichickFan 0 Posted November 8, 2009 right now the packer front office really needs to look in the mirror. swept by the vikes followed up by a loss to probably the worst team in the league who was winless going into this week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted November 8, 2009 right now the packer front office really needs to look in the mirror. swept by the vikes followed up by a loss to probably the worst team in the league who was winless going into this week I agree with this premise, Pimp..... o-line, special teams, and defense are a disaster right now But the impetus of this 12-page thread is that Favre should be at the helm getting his brains bashed in during his post-twilight years ......and not a young quarterback who will be a superstar one day when he gets time to throw.... Which is, of course, is extremely foolish..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBelichickFan 0 Posted November 8, 2009 if the packers had a top ten Offensive line to protect rodgers the packers would be a 10-6 to 11-5 team as is with no changes to their defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted November 8, 2009 With Seattle possibly losing to the Lions it has to be MURDERING Sweetness not to be able to post in his two favorite topics. God Bless Kurt Warner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted November 9, 2009 Not really stuck on it. That's are only comparable point to sub-par offensive lines.... The game is completely different for a QB when you have all the time in the world to throw, an RB that is all-world taking up all of the defenses attention, and a top-five defense keeping you safely handed the ball off to said all-world RB and mostly dink and dunk passes.Quarterbacks change when they start to get pressure on them and start to get hit... just look at Brady...... So, Rodgers with a horrible o-line = 4,600 yards, 32 TDs, 4 Ints Favre = 29 INTS, 4-12 It's more so why you keep ignoring it, rather than why I keep bringing it up. Once again, Rodgers plays on a team with 53 players. He's 10-13 in his first 23 games.... very similiar to the great Brett Favre in his first 23 games.... Except Rodgers is playing better, tossing far less interceptions and doesn't have the great Sterling Sharpe... Again... another dumb comparison.... has absolutely nothing to do with our overall discussion on which quarterback the Packers should have moving forward... DUMB Tavaris Jackson is a terrible, terrible quarterback.... do not insult Favre by even putting them in the same sentence together... Why are you building this strawman? You've built 3 strawmen in 40 seconds. Is that because you have absolutely no arguments here? The Vikings are an awful team? Rodgers had two fantastic games against them... More lies, general dumbness, and silly strawman Bmoney is trying to destroy.... Rodgers is the number one passer rating in the league.... on pace for 4600, 32 TDs and 4 Ints with the worst o-line in the league. He's only had one year under his belt... .he will just keep getting better and better.... deal with it Not even Swamp Dog comes with this garbage Old-man Favre would be a sitting duck with this o-line (and if not taking all the painful sacks, then tossing up 29 INTs).... Once again, I'm glad that I don't have to see it. Rodgers is learning the game with this young team..... This is a long-term project; but nobody in the world expected Rodgers to be this good this soon. The Seattle Lions have no past, no present, and sadly, no future..... That's why you spend all your time in Packer threads HAHAHAHAAHAHAH Truth hurts what the fock are you babbling about? ignore WHAT? the 4-12? I mention it in EVERY reply....I said brett was just as much to blame, as all qbs are the centerpiece of your team... but i also mentioned that it was ancient history.... you act as thats the team aaron took over..it isnt..they were 13-3... as far as laughing off the 10-13 start....and saying hey..brett was just like that.... maybe you werent a packers fan back then...but the packers were 9-6 in bretts first 15 games...(including a big win AT phily..the game that had reggie white hooked on coming here) 12-8 in bretts first 20 15-10 in his first 25 18-12 in his first 30..... he didnt take over a 13-3 team.. dont act as if rodgers doesnt have receivers.... youre entitled to your opinion...i respect that... but dont post false stuff and reply by saying i was owned...ignoring...or anything else..... as far as the vikes and are they awful? of course not..they have brett.... i simply said aaron cant lead a team to a win over a +500 team...2 in the last 24 games.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted November 9, 2009 So you think Favre would be just fine and dandy behind this Packer Oline?I know you like to spin...but wow...its ok to admit this line stinks. youve lost your focking marbles also hahaha.... i havent been spinning a thing..i simply said look at the standings.... the o-line definitely stinks...its reason #23 why TTs time is up here..ignoring free agency and trying to hit it through the draft....and with mccarthy..no one is accountable or gets blame..and the fans are the same way with aaron.... how did aaron do today? i assume they beat the winless bucs? yeah, im really spinning things im making up these records... yeah, id still rather have a qb who can get rid of the ball in a heartbeat...silly me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted November 9, 2009 The Seattle Lions have no past, no present, and sadly, no future.....That's why you spend all your time in Packer threads HAHAHAHAAHAHAH Truth hurts why are you and sho obsessed with where i post? thats beyond creepy..sho had post numbers of what ive said in each thread.. for the record..i couldnt give 3 sh1ts where and what you do post..especially when its nonsense... and be careful mocking the lions...3 of rodgers career wins have come thanks to the lions..thank christ for that team or aarons win-loss total would be off the charts awful...... kyle orton always had worse stats..but had a winning record...what would you rather have? big numbers or wins?... seattle has struggled just as gb has and alas....they are 1 game behind this juggernaut....thanks to the team that aaron has 30% of his career win total against... so either both team have futures or neither.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted November 9, 2009 Thompson and McCarthy have got to go, and I bet I get my wish. What a trainwreck, and it all comes down to decisions by the GM and poor coaching. The premise of this thread has not been anti-Rodgers. This thread, like it's name, is about Dumb and Dumber, and I'm not talking about 2 Packer organization apologists that keep digging a deeper hole here. Thompson has botched what was a big window, and McCarthy looks dumber everyday. Get back to the point of the post. This is about a GM and a Coach quitting on a legend! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doughboys_2002 11 Posted November 9, 2009 I admit I only read SOME of the posts on here, because there is a lot of crap! You have Favre haters and you have Favre die hards, I am neither. I do however believe looking at his career stats that he is the greatest QB to play the game, INT's included! If you look at all the hall of fame QB's a lot of them have worse QB ratings then Favre! Favre owns every QB stat by miles, most will not be broken for a LONG, LONG time! That said, 13-3 was Favre's record his last year in GB with an offensive line very similiar to the one Rodgers had, in fact the team was almost the same, Driver, Jennings, Ryan Grant. So you can cut the BS about if Favre played for them now! Farve makes plays happen, just watch the highlights of the games this year. A 50+ yard pass to the back of the endzone where only his receiver could get it for the winning TD! The guy is a great player, last season was a fluke, you try playing with a torn bicep that need surgery to fix. You would probably be on your a$$ crying like a baby! As for Rodgers, he is a young QB that is playing really well! He has a lot of upside, I know because I have had him on my FF team for three years now, three years ago I had him and Brett Farve, worked out well. The thing about Rodgers is he can't make plays like Favre can, he hasn't learned that yet, and I am not sure if it is something you could learn! Either it is going to happen next two seasons, or he is just not going to have it! That is the one thing that seperated Favre from other QB's, he could overcome his mistakes with great plays! How many times has he WON the game for the Vikes by making plays this year? I can think of atleast 2 sitting here! Rodgers will be a great QB in this league and put up big points, but until he learns to make big plays when they count then he will always be in Favre's shadow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBelichickFan 0 Posted November 9, 2009 favre is not the problem, rodgers is not the problem. a front office that refuses to address the offensive line defiencies is the issue. No qb and I mean no one can succeed behind the patchwork line rodgers is working with here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted November 9, 2009 favre is not the problem, rodgers is not the problem. a front office that refuses to address the offensive line defiencies is the issue. No qb and I mean no one can succeed behind the patchwork line rodgers is working with here. Rodgers deserves some of the blame......he holds onto the ball way too long sometimes. I think Packer nation has to start putting some heat on coach Mike. The Puckers came out flat last week against the Vikings......and they couldn't finish off a horrible Bucs team. When a team plays that flat, I think the coach should receive a lot of the blame. 10-14 since the beginning of 2008.....and McCarthy has only had one winning season since becoming the head coach....and they're in jeopardy of finishing .500 or worse yet again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 9, 2009 I admit I only read SOME of the posts on here, because there is a lot of crap! You have Favre haters and you have Favre die hards, I am neither. I do however believe looking at his career stats that he is the greatest QB to play the game, INT's included! If you look at all the hall of fame QB's a lot of them have worse QB ratings then Favre! Favre owns every QB stat by miles, most will not be broken for a LONG, LONG time! That said, 13-3 was Favre's record his last year in GB with an offensive line very similiar to the one Rodgers had, in fact the team was almost the same, Driver, Jennings, Ryan Grant. So you can cut the BS about if Favre played for them now! Farve makes plays happen, just watch the highlights of the games this year. A 50+ yard pass to the back of the endzone where only his receiver could get it for the winning TD! The guy is a great player, last season was a fluke, you try playing with a torn bicep that need surgery to fix. You would probably be on your a$$ crying like a baby! As for Rodgers, he is a young QB that is playing really well! He has a lot of upside, I know because I have had him on my FF team for three years now, three years ago I had him and Brett Farve, worked out well. The thing about Rodgers is he can't make plays like Favre can, he hasn't learned that yet, and I am not sure if it is something you could learn! Either it is going to happen next two seasons, or he is just not going to have it! That is the one thing that seperated Favre from other QB's, he could overcome his mistakes with great plays! How many times has he WON the game for the Vikes by making plays this year? I can think of atleast 2 sitting here! Rodgers will be a great QB in this league and put up big points, but until he learns to make big plays when they count then he will always be in Favre's shadow! Favre's line in 2007 was eerily similar to Rodgers line? Are you kidding? And Im not absolving Rodgers of his holding the ball too long...not at all. But this line is nowhere near what it was in 2007. Clifton was completely healthy and played every game I believe...or close to it. They did not have Colledge over there in the middle of a game or a rookie who had been set practicing at LG his whole time in GB. They did not have Allen Barbre the revolving door playing RT. Nor did they have 2nd year guy Josh Sitton at RG. The only real similarities was Colledge at LG (and 2007 and 2008 Colledge played pretty well, this year he is close to losing his job), and Wells at Center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bouve-Rules 0 Posted November 9, 2009 It's time to give Bill Cowher a call.... This loss was much more deflating than either of the Viking's losses. The Packer defense made Freeman look like a 10 year veteran in his first NFL start. I'm done making excuses for Mike McCarthy. If I have to watch, Aaron Kampman flounder around in the secondary for one more week, I think I puke. It's not fair to take our best defense player and make him do things he just can't do. Isn't that clear by now?!?!? He's a DE for god's sake! On offense - where are the screen passes? Where are the quick slants? One, two, throw. Rodgers has to get better at feeling pressure and throwing the ball on time. Clearly the wide receivers will make plays if we get the ball out on time. The line sucks, but you need to make adjustments to compensate. You can't hold the ball for 6 seconds and then blame the protection. OMG, I'm working up a sweat just typing this!! My only regret was buying a new 50" TV last season because I never wanted to throw a remote at the TV screen more than I did yesterday. This team is too talented to be losing a home game (yeah, I know it was in Raymond James) to a winless Bucaneers team. Mr. Cowher, will you please consider coaching this talent rich, leadership lacking football team? The fan base and support around the country is only rivaled by your former team the Pittsburgh Steelers. According to the current coach, all we need to do is "clean up a few things" and we'll be fine. Unfortunately, no one on the current staff is willing to clean up after themselves. Sincerely, Packer Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted November 9, 2009 It's time to give Bill Cowher a call.... This loss was much more deflating than either of the Viking's losses. The Packer defense made Freeman look like a 10 year veteran in his first NFL start. I'm done making excuses for Mike McCarthy. If I have to watch, Aaron Kampman flounder around in the secondary for one more week, I think I puke. It's not fair to take our best defense player and make him do things he just can't do. Isn't that clear by now?!?!? He's a DE for god's sake! On offense - where are the screen passes? Where are the quick slants? One, two, throw. Rodgers has to get better at feeling pressure and throwing the ball on time. Clearly the wide receivers will make plays if we get the ball out on time. The line sucks, but you need to make adjustments to compensate. You can't hold the ball for 6 seconds and then blame the protection. OMG, I'm working up a sweat just typing this!! My only regret was buying a new 50" TV last season because I never wanted to throw a remote at the TV screen more than I did yesterday. This team is too talented to be losing a home game (yeah, I know it was in Raymond James) to a winless Bucaneers team. Mr. Cowher, will you please consider coaching this talent rich, leadership lacking football team? The fan base and support around the country is only rivaled by your former team the Pittsburgh Steelers. According to the current coach, all we need to do is "clean up a few things" and we'll be fine. Unfortunately, no one on the current staff is willing to clean up after themselves. Sincerely, Packer Fan I'd take Shanahan, Holmgren, Gruden, or Cowher, but nothing will help until they can thompson. Shanny and Holmgren would be my first 2 choices, and i'd give them the GM duties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 9, 2009 I'd take Shanahan, Holmgren, Gruden, or Cowher, but nothing will help until they can thompson. Shanny and Holmgren would be my first 2 choices, and i'd give them the GM duties. Why would you give Holmgren both duties? He failed in doing that in Seattle...why will it be any different? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted November 9, 2009 Why would you give Holmgren both duties?He failed in doing that in Seattle...why will it be any different? Because he would do better than Ted and McJokey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 9, 2009 Because he would do better than Ted and McJokey. Is that all you are hoping for is just better than them right now? Sorry, I want even better. And Holmgren is fine in one job or the other...I don't want any one man having both duties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted November 9, 2009 I predict we won't be seeing a Thompson Road or a McCarthy alley. They might get there names attached to the road to the landfill though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted November 9, 2009 Is that all you are hoping for is just better than them right now?Sorry, I want even better. And Holmgren is fine in one job or the other...I don't want any one man having both duties. I can deal with that, but these big names that are looking want that say. I feel Holmgren and Shanny could really aid Rodgers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 9, 2009 I can deal with that, but these big names that are looking want that say. I feel Holmgren and Shanny could really aid Rodgers. IMO...Holmgren at GM and Gruden at HC would be better than just Holmgren at both. And he can want both jobs all he wants...I don't think many will give him that chance again since he stunk doing both in Seattle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted November 9, 2009 He does not refuse to spend money...he has done so...bringing in Woodson, keeping Harris, Driver, Barnett, Kampman, getting Pickett.... TT needs to go? Umm...ok...lets fire the guy...completely foolish and simplistic answer based mostly on emotion IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 9, 2009 Yes...because circumstances are the same as they were in July of 2008. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted November 9, 2009 Yes...because circumstances are the same as they were in July of 2008. sorry..its just amusing to hear you and others throw GM names about...took a lil while longer than others, but Im glad youve finally come to your senses.....just had to point out that i called for that a year ago... carry on.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted November 9, 2009 Holmgren at GM and Gruden at HC I like this. Gruden would only need 1 or 2 more Qb's to feel safe though! lol! Seriously though, it will be hard to get any one of the big names out there without giving up both positions. I kinda like Shanahan and his oline and running game. That would truly open up Rodgers to succeed, and help keep him on his feet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted November 12, 2009 So after 20+ pages, I am proven 100% correct. TT and McCarthy = DUMB and DUMBER.....nice job losing to a win less team that has been getting destroyed by everyone every week. Bucs have no D and were starting a rookie QB making his first start. And the fudgepackers lost to that team by 10 pts when the fudgepackers were favored by 10 (I know since I was in Vegas until today) LOVE IT....at least the Bears lose to teams that are winning teams (Bengals lead their div at 6-2; Cards lead their div and were in the SB last year). And no, I was not hiding because the Bears lost. I expect the Bears D to be average at best this year with Urlacher gone and it is no coincidence that Tommie Harris was not playing in both games the Bears got beat up in (Bengals game Harris was out; Cards game he was ejected). But the fudgepackers just lost to a win less Bucs team by 10 points. Nice job losers.....I hope DUMB and DUMBER stay for a loooong time up there. 6-10 followed by this train wreck of a season....nice wins over the Rams, Browns and Lions though. Only reason you beat the Bears is because we gift wrapped ints to you guys and had a bone head special teams play that gave you the ball in our redzone. Enjoy the misery.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted November 12, 2009 QUOTE(Sho Nuff @ Jul 31 2008, 01:49 PM) He does not refuse to spend money...he has done so...bringing in Woodson, keeping Harris, Driver, Barnett, Kampman, getting Pickett.... TT needs to go? Umm...ok...lets fire the guy...completely foolish and simplistic answer based mostly on emotion IMO. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 12, 2009 Sweetness comes back after a week or 2 of hiding then claims it was not about the Bears... Yeah right. At least you actually admit they suck finally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted November 12, 2009 Sweetness comes back after a week or 2 of hiding then claims it was not about the Bears...Yeah right. At least you actually admit they suck finally. No hiding here...I was in Vegas having lots of fun. I actually won good money betting on the seahags (10.5) vs the Lions at home (almost lost it because the seahags are so terrible). But back to the topic, your team sukks donkey ballz....losing to the Bucs by 10. Bears have had 2 bad losses and both of those teams are pretty good. And in both of those games, Bears were without their top 2 defensive players (Urlacher and Tommie Harris).....fudgepackers on the other hand really do not have many injury issues yet keep getting their behinds handed to them by a rookie QB led team that stinks on D too. Nice job Dumb and Dumber.....keep living in denial, shonuff. Love the entertainment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted November 12, 2009 No hiding here...I was in Vegas having lots of fun. I actually won good money betting on the seahags (10.5) vs the Lions at home (almost lost it because the seahags are so terrible). But back to the topic, your team sukks donkey ballz....losing to the Bucs by 10. Bears have had 2 bad losses and both of those teams are pretty good. And in both of those games, Bears were without their top 2 defensive players (Urlacher and Tommie Harris).....fudgepackers on the other hand really do not have many injury issues yet keep getting their behinds handed to them by a rookie QB led team that stinks on D too. Nice job Dumb and Dumber.....keep living in denial, shonuff. Love the entertainment Sure you were not hiding...given you have done so after every single Bear loss this year, you have little credibility there. The Bears also lost to who? Oh yeah...this terrible Packer team. Packers don't have injuries? Finley, Clifton, Tauscher, Barbre, Spitz, Nelson...but none of those are excuses...even with those guys healthy, the Oline has been bad and the offense has been inconsistent. Denial? What denial. I have called for McCarthy to be fired and believe Ted will be gone as well if they finish any worse than 8-8 and even 8-8 might not save his job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted November 12, 2009 Sure you were not hiding...given you have done so after every single Bear loss this year, you have little credibility there. The Bears also lost to who? Oh yeah...this terrible Packer team. Packers don't have injuries? Finley, Clifton, Tauscher, Barbre, Spitz, Nelson...but none of those are excuses...even with those guys healthy, the Oline has been bad and the offense has been inconsistent. Denial? What denial. I have called for McCarthy to be fired and believe Ted will be gone as well if they finish any worse than 8-8 and even 8-8 might not save his job. So NOW you agree with my thread title...welcome to the non-dark side.... enjoy watching Rodgers taking sacks because he has no clue when to throw the ball away 7 secs after a snap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted November 12, 2009 Sweetness34, BMoney, and Swamp Dog Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted November 12, 2009 Hey Donhass How is the "Packers are going to the Superbowl this year" going? I swear the greatest O in preseason was poised for a SB run according to a lot of experts and fudgepacker homers....what happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PsychoBelichickFan 0 Posted November 12, 2009 Hey Donhass How is the "Packers are going to the Superbowl this year" going? I swear the greatest O in preseason was poised for a SB run according to a lot of experts and fudgepacker homers....what happened? think he meant going to the toilet bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted November 15, 2009 Posted by Mike Florio on November 13, 2009 10:15 AM ET During the offseason, a game day employee at Lincoln Financial Field lost his job after badmouthing the Eagles on his Facebook page. Despite the fact that Dan Leone had no defense to the reality that he foolishly posted for the world to see a message including the "F" word and calling the team "retarted" for allowing safety Brian Dawkins to sign with a new team, the move created a flood of local sympathy for the fired employee. More recently, the Packers abruptly fired a 22-year member of the Lambeau Field maintenance crew, but not for using bad language or calling anyone "retarted" or saying anything in any forum that anyone other than coach Mike McCarthy would hear. According to Don Walker of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Wood saw McCarthy at Lambeau Field on the Thursday before the pressure-packed visit from Brett Favre and the Vikings, on November 1. Wood says that he yelled to McCarthy, "Hey coach, let's get the boys ready to kick some butt this weekend." The next day, Wood showed up for work. Nothing was said to him. On the day of the game, Wood learned that he had been fired. He was told that McCarthy heard him say, "Don't lay an egg." Um, where do we start? First, if McCarthy was sufficiently worried in the three days before the biggest game at Lambeau Field since the Ice Bowl about some guy telling him not to "lay an egg" that it caused McCarthy to find out who said it and to have the guy fired, then maybe McCarthy wasn't as focused on getting himself and the team ready for the game as he should have been. Second, the fact that McCarthy would have Wood fired shows that the coach's thick flesh is covered by ridiculously think skin. Third, at a time when the locals already are clamoring for Jon Gruden or Mike Holmgren or Mike Shanahan or any Mike not named McCarthy to be coaching the team in 2010, this is the kind of thing that can strike a chord with the people who made the Packers what they are. McCarthy isn't one of them. He's a Pittsburgh guy. A transplant. A carpetbagger. Sure, he spent one season a decade ago in Green Bay as an assistant coach, but he's not a native son. And here's the most obvious question the native sons and daughters will be asking: Why not meet with the guy and hear his side of the story? Maybe Wood is telling the truth. Maybe McCarthy, his blood pressure likely sky high as his plan to nudge Favre into retirement was about to explode in his face once and for all, didn't accurately hear what Wood said. Really, why would a 22-year employee be stupid enough to disrespect the head coach of the team to his face? Plenty of folks write stupid things on web sites and blogs. But most of us adopt some semblance of common sense and civility when dealing with other people directly. So look for the storm clouds to continue to gather around McCarthy. And look for him to hear things on Sunday at Lambeau Field far more profane and pointed than "don't lay an egg." ..and then from his PC today: (What's your reaction to the controversy surrounding the firing of Mike Wood?) I'd like to address it. I was made aware of it this morning on my radio show, or a radio show I do in Milwaukee. I was taken back by it, naturally. I walk through that loading dock every day, and I had a conversation. A comment was made, I commented back, got in the car and had a chance to inquire to Allen about what the man's name was, and that's my involvement. (He says he didn't make the comment. Are you sure it was him that made that comment?) Yes. (You heard him say, 'Don't lay an egg'?) I was hoping you guys wouldn't go this far with this. I'm going to be honest with you. He is ... I don't really know the man. He made a comment to me, I made a comment to him. It's not the worst thing ever said. But I would not say that to a fellow employee. That's as far as I'm going to go with it. (Did you ask anyone for him to be fired or disciplined?) Absolutely not. (Do you think the Packers are becoming overly sensitive?) I don't think so. (Did you suggest or recommend to Allen Johnson or Ted Eisenreich that he be dismissed?) It was a one-minute conversation, and that's the last I heard of it. I asked what his name was. (What exactly did you hear him say?) Like I said, it's not the worst thing ever said, but I wouldn't say it to a fellow employee. (Do you think the organization's course of action was correct?) I'm not involved in that decision, and frankly I had zero intention, zero conversation and zero ... conversation, intention, anything to do with that. (Wouldn't you say you played a part in that decision?) It's not my responsibility. No I didn't. (Hearing his remarks in the paper today, would you like to see him get his job back?) I've addressed it. Once again, I had one conversation, I inquired about what the man's name was. That's as far as I took the conversation, and now I'm answering questions about it. (You said something back to him. What did you say?) Once again, he made a comment, I commented back to him, I walked to my car, another comment was made, and that was it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
donhaas 18 Posted November 15, 2009 I would like more details about this "exchange" and subsequent firing.... McCarthy is coming off as a poosay... That was actually an interesting link, Sweetness.... I'm going to downgrade you to 99-percent troll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
