IndyFan 2 Posted September 28, 2008 How do you run Marion Barber 8 times for the entire game!!!!!!! That should be one quarter. The guy rips a run for 15 yards and is never used again. DUMB A**ES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
evilduzit 0 Posted September 28, 2008 Exactly. WTF? Running TO? ok once but twice then throwing to him 3 times and then out? Not running Barber= inexcusable!!!!! Fire Wade Philips!!! or J Garrett!!!! Hope this humbles them some. Sheesh seems we're back to not being able to finish. Maybe they'll see noones afraid of them and they bring out the best in their opponents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted September 29, 2008 Eight times that's it?!!! Wow that reminds me of that playoff game when The Chargers only ran LT 10 times in the second half when he had been averaging 8 or so a carry AND they had the lead. Pats were given that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Grimm 0 Posted September 29, 2008 Beyond Belief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimptaddy 0 Posted September 29, 2008 Garrett must have been staring at Jessica Simpson's breasts during the game, because he was not calling the right plays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
De Novo 0 Posted September 29, 2008 It's not that the passing game didn't work. Washington played better. I think the officiating really hurt Dallas because Washington's secondary was playing really physica and getting away with it. As an MBIII owner, I'm frustrated but I don't know if you can fault Garrett. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornKobb 48 Posted September 29, 2008 blame the coaches........boo hoo. Â this is coming from a cowboys lifetime fan. The skins came to win and barely outplayed the boys. Â blaming the coaches is a weak pop warner excuse.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted September 29, 2008 Barber got b1tch slapped on every carry...quit crying about his lack of carries because he didn't do sh1t with the ones he had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jman316 0 Posted September 29, 2008 Looked like a Romo/Cowboys playoff preview to me. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reapers69 0 Posted September 29, 2008 Barber got b1tch slapped on every carry...quit crying about his lack of carries because he didn't do sh1t with the ones he had. Â Â Â He had a 5 yard carry, a 15 yard carry and a couple of 3 yarders. Not sure if you watch football very often but this is how running games go. Runningbacks have several descent run sandwiched around many so-so runs. His last carry was a 15 yarder. The coaches are definitely to blame here. When you call pass plays 80% of the time and throw to Owens 14 times no matter how many guys are covering him you become predictable. We aren't talking about an average runningback here. Were talking about Marion Barber, one of the top backs in the game today. the entire second half Washington had thier Linebackers dropping back into cover underneath and Romo was more often then not locking onto Owens right from the snap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankRizzo 0 Posted September 29, 2008 Not only the play calling .... but clock management was horrible too. Â How do you not call timeout with 2:40 left before the half?? They let Washington run it to 2:00 warning. Then when they got the ball back they marched down the field but ran out of time so forced to kick fg .... and had A TIMEOUT STILL LEFT. Idiots! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9-Route 0 Posted September 29, 2008 agreed. Â despite the rugged skins defense playing tough today versus the run, you have to continue to pound the ball, especially when your MO is to wear out defensive lines with a massive offensive line leaning on them all game long, anticipating softer tackling in the 3rd and 4th qtrs. Â commitment to the run is such an important thing. it doesn't matter about results: even if you are averaging a paltry yds/rush, you must continue to maintain play calling balance. case in point: the skins used the run enough that eventually, their guy portis broke 2 long 20-30yd runs at key points in the 2nd half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Four More Beers 0 Posted September 29, 2008 I think the injuries to Springs and Smoot might have made the passing game too tempting, but in the end it's inexcusable to give a guy like Barber 8 carries in a close game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowboyz 2 Posted September 29, 2008 yup dallas thought it could beat the 2nd team cbs, but instead they couldn't stay on the field, then the defense got tired. Â they never ran to their right side for some reason, even though it's their best side to run to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moviedude25 0 Posted September 29, 2008 Reminds me of last years game...Barber needed 8 yards in the game to get over 1000 and the Skins didn't give him a yard:  "?Marion Barber not only finished 25 yards shy of his first 1,000-yard season, but Barber (minus-6 yards) and Julius Jones (7) combined for 1 yard -- setting a new franchise record for rushing futility."  http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap?game_i...yPage=tab_recap  Its not the coaching that is causing this, the Redskins just play great against Barber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corky76 2 Posted September 29, 2008 Yeah, I started MB3 and Turner and left Chris Johnson and Edge on my bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killersquids 3 Posted September 29, 2008 One other factor for Barber's 8 carries was the skins dominated the time of possession. They had the ball for 38 minutes! Â If the eagles had won last night, the four best teams in the league would all be in one division! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,602 Posted September 29, 2008 One other factor for Barber's 8 carries was the skins dominated the time of possession. They had the ball for 38 minutes! Â This is the correct answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted September 29, 2008 One other factor for Barber's 8 carries was the skins dominated the time of possession. They had the ball for 38 minutes! If the eagles had won last night, the four best teams in the league would all be in one division! No joke. Everybody here looks at games with fantasy football glasses on.  BOX SCORE: Barber - 8 carries  Did you watch the game? That's why the cowboys lost? No, it might has had something to do with the skins moving the ball at will the entire game and not giving the cowboys a chance to run the ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xenophobe 1 Posted September 29, 2008 They deserve to lose because they got outplayed. The Cowboys have been way overrated IMO. They are an extremely talented team, but as great as they look playing their kind of game, their defense is nothing special and is their offense that makes them so good. But when good and balanced teams can slow down the pace of the game, their offense can fall out of its element and gets frustrated when teams take away the big play. Romo is also error prone. With all the hype this team gets, they're better equipped to dominate the regular season than they are to make a run in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phurfur 70 Posted September 29, 2008 It's not that the passing game didn't work. Washington played better. I think the officiating really hurt Dallas because Washington's secondary was playing really physica and getting away with it. As an MBIII owner, I'm frustrated but I don't know if you can fault Garrett. Â Â We are playing football and it is a physical game. Blaming the officails gets really old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
South Beach 0 Posted September 29, 2008 agreed.  despite the rugged skins defense playing tough today versus the run, you have to continue to pound the ball, especially when your MO is to wear out defensive lines with a massive offensive line leaning on them all game long, anticipating softer tackling in the 3rd and 4th qtrs.  commitment to the run is such an important thing. it doesn't matter about results: even if you are averaging a paltry yds/rush, you must continue to maintain play calling balance. case in point: the skins used the run enough that eventually, their guy portis broke 2 long 20-30yd runs at key points in the 2nd half.   One other factor for Barber's 8 carries was the skins dominated the time of possession. They had the ball for 38 minutes! If the eagles had won last night, the four best teams in the league would all be in one division!   9-route and squids speak truth. cowboys D was on the field the entire game... credit due to the skins. Maybe the time of posession would not have been as lopsided if the cowboys were more committed to the run. Keep pounding ion them with the big uglies even if the success is limited early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark_it_8_Dude 0 Posted September 29, 2008 I really don't see what the Cowboys have done to earn all the hype they get anyway. Haven't won a play-off game in forever yet they are everyone's pick to go to the Superbowl. Put up or shut-up I say. Speaking of shut-up, I found it very comical how TO said they lost because they didn't get him involved more in the game. Classy TO, STFU. What a tool. Â Just like my opinion, man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 701 Posted September 29, 2008 Reminds me of last years game...Barber needed 8 yards in the game to get over 1000 and the Skins didn't give him a yard: "?Marion Barber not only finished 25 yards shy of his first 1,000-yard season, but Barber (minus-6 yards) and Julius Jones (7) combined for 1 yard -- setting a new franchise record for rushing futility."  http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap?game_i...yPage=tab_recap  Its not the coaching that is causing this, the Redskins just play great against Barber.   Wow. So the Redskins held him to 8 carries? I wonder why the skins only called running plays for Barber 8 times?    I figured the Cowboys would split with Skins, Eagles, and lose two others...finishing 12-4.  Dallas has yet to get an interception. The defense isn't making plays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted September 29, 2008 I really don't see what the Cowboys have done to earn all the hype they get anyway. Haven't won a play-off game in forever yet they are everyone's pick to go to the Superbowl. Put up or shut-up I say. Speaking of shut-up, I found it very comical how TO said they lost because they didn't get him involved more in the game. Classy TO, STFU. What a tool. Just like my opinion, man.  It doesn't take much. They were commenting in the post game that TO was involved in 1/3 of all the offensive plays, either running, or as a target. I wonder if he wants to play QB . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted September 29, 2008 The Cowboys staff thinks it can do whatever it wants to do, which is not the case. Â They also overestimat Romo's abilities or just plain rely on him beyond what he can do. Â And then there is Jerry Jones standing on the sideline. The owner/GM does not belong there and I would bet he influences the playcalling, directly or indirectly. Â Th Skins played a great game but that is no excuse for abandoning the running game in any game that is not a blowout, whether it be MB3+Felix or Kolby Smith back there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted September 29, 2008 9-route and squids speak truth. cowboys D was on the field the entire game... credit due to the skins. Maybe the time of posession would not have been as lopsided if the cowboys were more committed to the run. Keep pounding ion them with the big uglies even if the success is limited early. Â I agree. That's exactly what they did to Philly last week. Barber had nowhere to run in the 1st half. In the second half, the lanes started opening. Â The Skins looked great, but the Cowboys didn't help themselves in a close game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mgs316 14 Posted September 29, 2008 Maybe the Dallas defense was tired and the Skins dominated the time of possession because Dallas passed so much and didn't run Barber. Incomplete pass, incomplete pass, incomplete pass, punt. That's about a minute forty of game time. Even if you run it 3 times and punt you'll grind out at least twice as much clock. Â Poor play calling from a football and a fantasy standpoint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xenophobe 1 Posted September 29, 2008 I don't think the number of runs is necessarily the issue. If Washington was stacking the line frequently checking off to a pass play might have been the right move. Good teams can take away an element to your game if they really want to and a good and balanced offense will accept that and take what the defense gives them. Â The problem is, when teams can slow the pace of the game down against Dallas, they tend to look out of their element offensively. Dallas plays offense one way -explosive, and reliant on the big play. When they get into these grind it out games, they often don't look like the same team. When they get into these kind of games, they sometimes look like they are trying to force things, and we saw that again yesterday. Â Dallas is going to have to figure this out if they expect to win a SB, which so many seem to think is their God given right this year. Because whether it be Washington, NY, Tampa, Carolina, or whoever, when it comes to the post season, they're going to run into teams capable of dictating the pace to them, and I'm not sure I love their chances in those types of games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted September 29, 2008 The Cowboys staff thinks it can do whatever it wants to do, which is not the case. They also overestimat Romo's abilities or just plain rely on him beyond what he can do.  And then there is Jerry Jones standing on the sideline. The owner/GM does not belong there and I would bet he influences the playcalling, directly or indirectly.  Th Skins played a great game but that is no excuse for abandoning the running game in any game that is not a blowout, whether it be MB3+Felix or Kolby Smith back there.  Couldn't agree more. In listening to Troy Aikman during the broadcast, it seemed as if every Cowboy even mentioned had tremendous upside, or is a player whom the Cowboys think will be "something special".  One can watch the re-runs of Hard Knocks to find that Jerrah Jones and the rest of the coaching staff feels every player they have is a pro bowler caliber player.  That's arrogance, and it's real stupidity to put your employees up on that pedistal like that.  I see alot of guys on that team who think they're leaders but I don't see one who is an actual leader. If TO becomes that de facto leader, then they're in trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted September 29, 2008 Here's what I saw. First off, the Redskins are clearly better than people are giving them credit for. As much as I've said the Cowboys offense is dependent on TO, they were doing better without him early on. He was barely involved in the gameplan early but the Ccowboys were making up for it with Crayton and Witten. Yes, the Skins kept them off the field with their ball control offense, but not using Barber and in particular Felix Jones is inexcusable. Then they made matters worse when they overcompensated and started throwing to TO too much in the 2nd half, which was probably the result of him b!tching at halftime. It's been noted that TO started to not finish routes that he wasn't the intended target on and began to show his typical self. Then after the game had the audacity to say he wasn't involved enough, after 17 freakin targets and 7 receptions. Â The Cowboys problem is that they are a fraud on defense. They have a lot of big name guys but no cohesiveness. If something doesn't get fixed they'll finish 3rd in their own division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Grimm 0 Posted September 29, 2008 On a side note, since the Cowboys staff and owner have been brought into this. Â Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was fined $25,000 by the NFL for publicly criticizing referee Ed Hochuli. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 66 Posted September 29, 2008 On a side note, since the Cowboys staff and owner have been brought into this. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones was fined $25,000 by the NFL for publicly criticizing referee Ed Hochuli.  That was a merited fine. It was one of the most ridiculous criticisms I have ever heard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted September 29, 2008 Everybody knows that Wade sucks as a head coach, but "golden boy" Jason Garret lost that game. 8 carries for Barber in a game that was close the whole way through? Didn't Romo throw it close to 50 times? Wow, inexcusable. Â The Cowboys will NOT be in the Superbowl this year, for the following three reasons I have been harping on all offseason and regular season: Â Very, very average defense- Campbell carved them up yesterday. Portis also made the most of his carries, going well over 100. Â Coaching staff- they suck. The Giants and Eagles can coach circles around these assclowns. Dating back to last year I haven't seen Dallas outcoach ANYBODY. Â Romo- Pedestrian QB with a Ferrari offense. If he didn't have the best O-line, Best WR, Best TE and two excellent running backs to make him look good, this A-hole would be in the bottom 15 QB's in the league. If you can limit his ability to go to TO and Witten almost every time, he has nothing. The guy flat out can't win a game for his team by himself. Please stop mentioning him in the same breath as guys like Favre and Manning. He isn't half the QB those guys are. When TO finally hangs it up I see a Culpepperish fall for Romo. Â The Skins took away Romo's bread and butter and Garret was too stupid to stop throwing. Dallas fans should be happy to just win a playoff game this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisters 0 Posted September 29, 2008 Everybody knows that Wade sucks as a head coach, but "golden boy" Jason Garret lost that game. 8 carries for Barber in a game that was close the whole way through? Didn't Romo throw it close to 50 times? Wow, inexcusable. The Cowboys will NOT be in the Superbowl this year, for the following three reasons I have been harping on all offseason and regular season:  Very, very average defense- Campbell carved them up yesterday. Portis also made the most of his carries, going well over 100.  Coaching staff- they suck. The Giants and Eagles can coach circles around these assclowns. Dating back to last year I haven't seen Dallas outcoach ANYBODY.  Romo- Pedestrian QB with a Ferrari offense. If he didn't have the best O-line, Best WR, Best TE and two excellent running backs to make him look good, this A-hole would be in the bottom 15 QB's in the league. If you can limit his ability to go to TO and Witten almost every time, he has nothing. The guy flat out can't win a game for his team by himself. Please stop mentioning him in the same breath as guys like Favre and Manning. He isn't half the QB those guys are. When TO finally hangs it up I see a Culpepperish fall for Romo.  The Skins took away Romo's bread and butter and Garret was too stupid to stop throwing. Dallas fans should be happy to just win a playoff game this year.  This was just a bad game for the dallas D...Im pretty sure I'm right on this but this is the first time they gave up a 100 yds to one rb in two years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted September 29, 2008 This was just a bad game for the dallas D...Im pretty sure I'm right on this but this is the first time they gave up a 100 yds to one rb in two years  Portis had a 100 yard game against them last season.  Also their secondary sucks. Newman as had some injury problems, but so has Springs. Which corner looked better?  And is Adam Jones still on the team? I've seen 3 full Cowboy games this year, and I tend to forget he's even playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,680 Posted September 29, 2008 I thought I heard they were going to get Felix more involved, plus use him at WR. I don't think he touched the ball once on offense, course I was boozing during the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisters 0 Posted September 29, 2008 Portis had a 100 yard game against them last season. Â that game was a focking fluke too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted September 29, 2008 Romo- Pedestrian QB with a Ferrari offense. If he didn't have the best O-line, Best WR, Best TE and two excellent running backs to make him look good, this A-hole would be in the bottom 15 QB's in the league. If you can limit his ability to go to TO and Witten almost every time, he has nothing. The guy flat out can't win a game for his team by himself. Please stop mentioning him in the same breath as guys like Favre and Manning. He isn't half the QB those guys are. When TO finally hangs it up I see a Culpepperish fall for Romo. Â I couldn't disagree more with this assessment. Â I've seen him play a lot and the guy's a really good QB. I wouldn't mention him in the same breath as Peyton or Favre because he hasn't done it as long but he has potential for sure. Â The play he made yesterday on the TD to Miles says it all. Like a lot of the great ones, Favre and Brady come to mind, Romo feels pressure and moves well once he feels it. On that particular play he eluded the pressure, even jumping a defender as he was moving forward toward the LOS. The whole time he kept his eyes downfield and found a wide open Miles for a TD. The guy moves well, has a quick release, and throws a pretty good deep ball. And he usually makes pretty good decisions also. Â And limiting his ability to go to either TO or Witten? OK. First of all you're wrong since he went to Crayton quite a bit yesterday and Miles when needed. And that's 2 guys.....most teams have one guy you could limit and hurt them. The chances of teams successfully clamping down on both receivers, especially with a mobile QB who can buy time, is very little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted September 29, 2008 I couldn't disagree more with this assessment. I've seen him play a lot and the guy's a really good QB. I wouldn't mention him in the same breath as Peyton or Favre because he hasn't done it as long but he has potential for sure.  The play he made yesterday on the TD to Miles says it all. Like a lot of the great ones, Favre and Brady come to mind, Romo feels pressure and moves well once he feels it. On that particular play he eluded the pressure, even jumping a defender as he was moving forward toward the LOS. The whole time he kept his eyes downfield and found a wide open Miles for a TD. The guy moves well, has a quick release, and throws a pretty good deep ball. And he usually makes pretty good decisions also.  And limiting his ability to go to either TO or Witten? OK. First of all you're wrong since he went to Crayton quite a bit yesterday and Miles when needed. And that's 2 guys.....most teams have one guy you could limit and hurt them. The chances of teams successfully clamping down on both receivers, especially with a mobile QB who can buy time, is very little.  I will give a bit that Romo has improved, but I still him as a guy getting continuous help from superior athletes he's throwing to. I'm sorry, but TO makes people look better, as does Witten. Factor in the pass catching ability of both MBIII and Felix Jones and their yards after catch ability and he's really just got to make good decisions, which he doesn't sometimes. But at this point I think I could name probably 6 other QB offhand I'd rather have in the short term and slightly less than that in the longterm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites