KingMathers8 0 Posted November 6, 2008 I got S. Jackson who doesn't look like he is playing and also Washington vs the Rams so I think Torian is a nice play for me but I also have Cutler and I'm not sure how smart it is to have a RB and a QB on the same team playing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 441 Posted November 6, 2008 I am now. My RB squad is a train wreck, every week an adventure: SJax (me too), Faulk, LJ, Len White, J. Charles, Torain, S. Young. Might be going with whoever DEN names as the starter along with Faulk or J. Charles. Ah, yes, good times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted November 6, 2008 I'm not sure yet, but I guess I need to make up my mind fast. Torain v. Cle (28) Lynch v. NE (15) It would seem like Torain would be the smarter play based on competition, but I don't know if I could trust Shanny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bjengel 0 Posted November 6, 2008 TennisMenace - I'd definately go with Lynch, atleast you know you are going to get 20 carries out of Lynch. Shanny seesm to screw with us every year. Although, I think I'll be forced to start Torain this week (also a Steven Jackson owner). SJax (questionable) @ NYJ Addai @ PIT Torain @ CLE I have to start Torain tonight because of the early game and not knowing for sure on Jackson. If Jackson does end up being active on Sunday, then I will have to choose between him and Addai. Rough week for me at RB this week. I'm hoping Brees throws 3 TD's to each Shockey and Colston (I have Brees, Shockey and Colston) and I'm hoping Boldin gets a couple TD's as well to carry my team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chidoy 0 Posted November 6, 2008 :raiseshand: Out of necesity, Sjax owner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted November 6, 2008 I am and w/J Charles in one league. Addai Torain R Bush Charles MBIII Torain CJ3 R Bush Torain or Jacobs CJ3 M Turner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccombsau 5 Posted November 6, 2008 it's either him or Ricky for me with Barber on a bye I'm sure Ricky can get his usual 6 to eight poitns but I 'm gonna take the risk with Torain and hope for more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monk81 5 Posted November 6, 2008 Yet another S. Jackson owner starting Torain. Sigh... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gotoneros 1 Posted November 6, 2008 I have to choose between Ray Rice or Torain. Still dont know what I'll do, but leaning to Rice based on last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted November 6, 2008 Yeah, I've had my 360 since inception and I only have 7 games... Portis and Benson on bye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted November 6, 2008 im starting him also! portis on bye and may sit addai vs PITT. hopefully he does a little better than he did for me last week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perennial Contender 18 Posted November 6, 2008 He was officially named the starter per rotoworld http://www.rotowire.com/football/latestnews.htm and Ray Rice went off for 154 against the Brownies. I think it is worth the risk. The next Terell Davis Shanny? Give me 50% of what TD was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Funaki 0 Posted November 6, 2008 I'm deciding between him and lynch for my #2. I know Lynch is probably good for 60 and a TD. He never does much more than that. but Torrain has so much upside tonight against a bad run d with a lot to prove. Is he worth the risk or do I stick with the sure thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PDrax 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Yet another SJax owner...honestly Torrain can't do any worse than SJax did last week...can he?? Until I hear SJax is practicing 100% he will be riding my bench. My only other choices are K. Smith or ..ugh..Edge. Run, Ryan, Run! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cdogge 17 Posted November 6, 2008 I am starting Torian tonight... Barber on a bye.... But...with the injuries the broncos have Rat face will have no choice but to give Torian 15+ touches (unless they are getting the Shat kicked out of them)...I like torains chances of getting 10+ fantasy points... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted November 6, 2008 I am starting Torian tonight... Barber on a bye.... But...with the injuries the broncos have Rat face will have no choice but to give Torian 15+ touches (unless they are getting the Shat kicked out of them)...I like torains chances of getting 10+ fantasy points... the brace he has been wearing on his elbow really scares me, he can't switch hands so the ball is more susceptable to fumbles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbone138 6 Posted November 6, 2008 Benching Addai vs. pitt and his 2 ypc for torain. Hopefully I don't get bit in the ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieG 4 Posted November 6, 2008 I'm in a tough spot. Have to choose between Torain, BJGE or Faulk. Torain is gettable, but will blow my cap for the rest of the reg. season. At 4-5 I need some scoring NOW & UPSIDE. Scary, but with the POS SJax limping, I will likely break my piggy bank for a Denver RB. VERY SCARY.. I hope this kid can really play or at least gets GLs. I own Cutler & Marshall.. so also not to stoked to have to start 3 prominent Donkeys when they're this cold. If I thought Morris was out indefinetly, i'd roll with BJGE.. but I think Faulk will do better versus tougher run D's and it becomes a big headache. For what we know now.. the Denver headache is easier to figure than the NE headache. Injuries suck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gundy89 0 Posted November 6, 2008 I'm deciding between him and lynch for my #2. I know Lynch is probably good for 60 and a TD. He never does much more than that. but Torrain has so much upside tonight against a bad run d with a lot to prove. Is he worth the risk or do I stick with the sure thing? What's wrong with 60 and a touch? I'd roll with that every week if I could. Go with Lynch. I'm thinking about starting Torrain over Addai (Pit) or Slaton (BAL), but I don't know if I can pull the trigger yet. I think I'm going to go with Slaton at home, but I have a couple of hours to decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 62 Posted November 6, 2008 He was officially named the starter per rotoworld http://www.rotowire.com/football/latestnews.htm and Ray Rice went off for 154 against the Brownies. I think it is worth the risk. The next Terell Davis Shanny? Give me 50% of what TD was Can you copy and paste the Rotowire link ?...it's filtered for us at work. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aportanenko 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Due to injuries and byes I have to either start him or k. smith. I think I will. Miami managed to hold Denver to 14 yards rushing last week, but I think that was due to a gimpy Pittman. Side note Quinn, is going to be starting for Cleveland, if he struggles maybe Denver has an early lead and decides to play it safe by running the ball in hostile territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cdogge 17 Posted November 6, 2008 Due to injuries and byes I have to either start him or k. smith. I think I will. Miami managed to hold Denver to 14 yards rushing last week, but I think that was due to a gimpy Pittman. Side note Quinn, is going to be starting for Cleveland, if he struggles maybe Denver has an early lead and decides to play it safe by running the ball in hostile territory. I certainly hope you are right....I actually didn't even think about Brady "going to need to see the medicine woman after this game" Quinn playing his first real game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookieG 4 Posted November 6, 2008 I wound up going with BJGE.. TD heavy league and too many Broncos already. Didn't want to bid and overspend on Torain. Good luck with him everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted November 6, 2008 NFL.com's Adam Schefter confirms that Ryan Torain is expected to be the Broncos' starting tailback on Thursday night and is "going to get the bulk of the carries" over Selvin Young (questionable, groin). Schefter says that in a "perfect world" Torain will get 15-20 carries and the Broncos are confident he will be better tonight than he was against Miami in Week 9. If Young plays, it appears his upside will be as a third-down back. We have Torain ranked as a low-end RB2 against a Browns defense that surrenders 4.7 YPC (fifth worst in the NFL) and over one touchdown allowed per game. If Shaun Rogers is out for Cleveland, Torain will be an even stronger bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ffrebel 0 Posted November 6, 2008 For those of you talking about starting Lynch over Torrain, you might want to consider his recent production. He had 13 carries 2 weeks ago and only 9 carries last week. His coach also talked about his disappointment with Lynch's production this year. It would not surprise me to see Fred Jackson getting more carries than Lynch this week. You can never be sure how these things will actually turn out, but I'm betting Torrain is the safer play. With Denver only having Young and Torrain available, you have to think Torrain gets the call. Young is coming off an injury and even when he was healthy it was obvious Shanahan didn't trust him because he never gave him more than 10 carries in a game. Yep, I'm starting Torrain this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ffootball32 0 Posted November 6, 2008 http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/11/06/denvers-ne...t-to-cleveland/ Time to Ride the Torain Train-----It may be a risk but you have to take chances to win!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perennial Contender 18 Posted November 6, 2008 Interesting read from KFFL: Impact Analysis: Denver Broncos backfield November 5, 2008 17:20:17 By Thomas Major Edited by Herija C. Green This was an important week for the Denver Broncos backfield, as two running backs - Michael Pittman (neck) and Andre Hall (hand) - were placed on Injured Reserve and will watch the rest of the season from the sideline. Losing Pittman, who was leading the Denver backfield in both rushing and receiving yards, touchdowns and utilizations, will likely be a big blow to a backfield that was already having trouble running the ball. Over the past four weeks, the Broncos are averaging 83.7 rushing yards per game. Hall, who was averaging a solid 4.1 yards per carry, will also have to wait until next season to play again. These injuries leave a depleted Denver backfield. Who is going to benefit most from these injuries? Here's what we can expect to see moving forward. The second half of the seasonRookie tailback Ryan Torain saw his first NFL action last week, carrying the ball three times for just one yard. Head coach Mike Shanahan believes Torain will be able to run well in Denver's one-cut zone-blocking scheme. At 6-foot-1, 225 pounds, he has the size and strength to gain tough yards and the speed to break a big play. Denver also has a favorable upcoming schedule, starting with their Week 10 tilt against the Cleveland Browns. The biggest problem with Torain is he is unproven after missing the first seven games of the season with a broken elbow, so it is difficult to rely on him. He also has no experience in pass protection, and Shanahan isn't about to risk the health of franchise quarterback Jay Cutler, which means Torain is unlikely to see the field much on third down. He has the potential to be a No. 2 back down the road this season but is only playable as a weak No. 3 or flex option until he shows something more. Running back Selvin Young (groin) has been battling health issues and is listed as questionable for this week's Thursday night matchup at Cleveland. When healthy, Young is averaging an impressive 5.7 yards per carry, and his familiarity with the Denver offense gives him a chance to be effective once he's healthy. At 5-foot-11, 215 pounds, Young is not a goal line back, which is why he has only been utilized twice inside the 5-yard line, and with Torain healthy, that number is unlikely to increase. Once Young is 100 percent, he may jump into a timeshare with Torain, which would hurt both of their fantasy values. However, Young has had durability issues dating back to his collegiate days. For now, consider Young a weak No. 3 or flex at best. Rookie fullback Peyton Hillis exploded in Week 9, catching seven balls for 116 yards and a touchdown. We don't expect numbers like that every game, but we do feel he may have done enough to earn a few touches each week going forward. He's a solid receiver, and in a point-per-reception leagues, his value increases. He is still their top fullback and should continue to function primarily as the lead blocker. In deeper leagues, he may be worth stashing away but shouldn't be started at this point. Fantasy football outlookIt appears that Torain has the best chance to benefit in terms of fantasy value from Pittman and Hall going on Injured Reserve. If Young cannot go this week, Torain would be the starter, and a good game against a poor Cleveland rushing defense could cement his role with the team. However, if Young is ready to play or Torain sputters, he and Young may split carries going forward. That being said, remember that Denver has been running a pass-first offense this season, and their problem running the ball is probably not the sole fault of the backs. If Shanahan were to feature the run more often, we could see a solid fantasy starter emerge. If not, they'll likely remain flex options and have modest value outside deep leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
16 and 33 0 Posted November 6, 2008 That being said, remember that Denver has been running a pass-first offense this season, and their problem running the ball is probably not the sole fault of the backs. If Shanahan were to feature the run more often, we could see a solid fantasy starter emerge. If not, they'll likely remain flex options and have modest value outside deep leagues. The 2008 Broncos are not committed to the run. /discussion ETA: Torain; every other guy that owns him posts here and spells it wrong (Torian, Torrain, Tophockinginexperienced, etc). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikieV101 0 Posted November 6, 2008 Interesting read from KFFL: Impact Analysis: Denver Broncos backfield November 5, 2008 17:20:17 By Thomas Major Edited by Herija C. Green This was an important week for the Denver Broncos backfield, as two running backs - Michael Pittman (neck) and Andre Hall (hand) - were placed on Injured Reserve and will watch the rest of the season from the sideline. Losing Pittman, who was leading the Denver backfield in both rushing and receiving yards, touchdowns and utilizations, will likely be a big blow to a backfield that was already having trouble running the ball. Over the past four weeks, the Broncos are averaging 83.7 rushing yards per game. Hall, who was averaging a solid 4.1 yards per carry, will also have to wait until next season to play again. These injuries leave a depleted Denver backfield. Who is going to benefit most from these injuries? Here's what we can expect to see moving forward. The second half of the seasonRookie tailback Ryan Torain saw his first NFL action last week, carrying the ball three times for just one yard. Head coach Mike Shanahan believes Torain will be able to run well in Denver's one-cut zone-blocking scheme. At 6-foot-1, 225 pounds, he has the size and strength to gain tough yards and the speed to break a big play. Denver also has a favorable upcoming schedule, starting with their Week 10 tilt against the Cleveland Browns. The biggest problem with Torain is he is unproven after missing the first seven games of the season with a broken elbow, so it is difficult to rely on him. He also has no experience in pass protection, and Shanahan isn't about to risk the health of franchise quarterback Jay Cutler, which means Torain is unlikely to see the field much on third down. He has the potential to be a No. 2 back down the road this season but is only playable as a weak No. 3 or flex option until he shows something more. Running back Selvin Young (groin) has been battling health issues and is listed as questionable for this week's Thursday night matchup at Cleveland. When healthy, Young is averaging an impressive 5.7 yards per carry, and his familiarity with the Denver offense gives him a chance to be effective once he's healthy. At 5-foot-11, 215 pounds, Young is not a goal line back, which is why he has only been utilized twice inside the 5-yard line, and with Torain healthy, that number is unlikely to increase. Once Young is 100 percent, he may jump into a timeshare with Torain, which would hurt both of their fantasy values. However, Young has had durability issues dating back to his collegiate days. For now, consider Young a weak No. 3 or flex at best. Rookie fullback Peyton Hillis exploded in Week 9, catching seven balls for 116 yards and a touchdown. We don't expect numbers like that every game, but we do feel he may have done enough to earn a few touches each week going forward. He's a solid receiver, and in a point-per-reception leagues, his value increases. He is still their top fullback and should continue to function primarily as the lead blocker. In deeper leagues, he may be worth stashing away but shouldn't be started at this point. Fantasy football outlookIt appears that Torain has the best chance to benefit in terms of fantasy value from Pittman and Hall going on Injured Reserve. If Young cannot go this week, Torain would be the starter, and a good game against a poor Cleveland rushing defense could cement his role with the team. However, if Young is ready to play or Torain sputters, he and Young may split carries going forward. That being said, remember that Denver has been running a pass-first offense this season, and their problem running the ball is probably not the sole fault of the backs. If Shanahan were to feature the run more often, we could see a solid fantasy starter emerge. If not, they'll likely remain flex options and have modest value outside deep leagues. Thanks..but is there really anything in this article we didn't already know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PunkRockRedneck 8 Posted November 6, 2008 I've been flip-flopping all morning over whether or not to start Torain or MJD. Torain is intriguing tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelers2101 7 Posted November 6, 2008 Starting Torain over Slaton. I figure why else is Torain on my team if I'm not going to start him against cleveland when another RB of mine is going against Baltimore. That said, Slaton is a safe bet for 10 points against anyone, but I don't see him having a huge game against Baltimore. Torain's got more upside this week, and I don't see his downside being much more than what can be expected from Slaton this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cdogge 17 Posted November 6, 2008 Starting Torain over Slaton. I figure why else is Torain on my team if I'm not going to start him against cleveland when another RB of mine is going against Baltimore. That said, Slaton is a safe bet for 10 points against anyone, but I don't see him having a huge game against Baltimore. Torain's got more upside this week, and I don't see his downside being much more than what can be expected from Slaton this week. If you truly believe that Slaton can get 10 points against anyone you DO NOT BENCH HIM.... Torain might get you 10 points tonight...but slaton WILL ....right??? I personaly don't think slaton will get 10 points against Balt.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pawrestling12 0 Posted November 6, 2008 ANother SJax owner here, i gotta start torain considering my only available rb's this week are him fargas and SJax. Ill wait on Jackson until gameday, either way im f'ed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelers2101 7 Posted November 6, 2008 If you truly believe that Slaton can get 10 points against anyone you DO NOT BENCH HIM.... Torain might get you 10 points tonight...but slaton WILL ....right???I personaly don't think slaton will get 10 points against Balt.... Not exactly. Torain should get 9 or 10 points, might only get 5 or 6, but could get 20+. Slaton should get 9 or 10, might only get 5 or 6, but I don't see him getting any more than 15 if he gets a fortunate TD against Baltimore D, but I'm not betting on a TD. I'm also benching BJGE who I waived 2 weeks ago and dropped Ray Rice due to stupid roster limits. Didn't draft an RB til the 5th round in a 14 teamer and the first two were ricky (over chris johnson) and mendenhall (over ronnie brown). A strategy to think about in big leagues with only 2 starting RBs. Went WR, QB, WR, WR, then got a bunch of RBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darko M 0 Posted November 6, 2008 The last time I saw this much hype for a running back was... ...CHRIS JOHNSON. I'm starting Torain this week. Hopefully the e-hype goes 2 for 2 this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiPolarBear 485 Posted November 6, 2008 I just desided to put Torain in. It'll make watching the game more fun. I think I can win my fantasy game no mater how he does. Against the 28th ranked rush defense, how bad could it be? Also, FBG list the Denver/Cleveland game as a Sunday game. I emailed them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiPolarBear 485 Posted November 6, 2008 Also, FBG list the Denver/Cleveland game as a Sunday game. I emailed them. Wow. I just checked FBG and they already made the correction. They had it fixed in the time between these two post. I still have the section in my copy/paste here you go: Denver suffered another rash of injuries at RB last week, and ended up placing Michael Pittman and Andre Hall on IR as a result - Selvin Young has been battling a groin problem and hasn't played of late. With all the injuries, youngster Ryan Torain figures to get a chance, but he was uninspiring in his return to the field last week (3/1/0 rushing won't get it done, folks). Stay tuned to players in the news later this week to get a feel for which back is likely to start on Sunday. It says Thusday now with a little different wording. I can't believe they even opened my email. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RamslovaMartzhata 3 Posted November 6, 2008 I'm drinking the kool aid and starting Torain over Deuce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nos23 1 Posted November 6, 2008 i want to start him over lynch. if shawn rogers doesnt play torian will be gold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montana 89 Posted November 6, 2008 He's in my line up too. With Barber on bye, I'm starting Turner & Torain....now I gotta decide between Slaton or Rice as my flex. "Choooooo Chooooooo" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites