A-Rod tested positive for steroids

[Big Blue 06 196]

I don't know if this is true, but if it is, it would be a real shocker!

 

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NEW YORK -- Sports Illustrated has reported that Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003.

 

The magazine says in a story posted on its website Saturday that the New York Yankees star tested positive for two anabolic steroids. SI cited four unidentified sources.

 

SI reports that Rodriguez's name appears on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancers in a 2003 baseball survey.

 

Rodriguez declined to discuss the tests when approached by SI on Thursday at a Miami gym. He told a reporter to speak to the players union. Calls from SI to union head Donald Fehr were not returned.

 

Rodriguez played for the Texas Rangers in 2003, when he won the AL home run title and MVP award. He was traded to the Yankees in 2004.

[edjr 6,914]

eagerly awaiting newbie's response.

[tikigods 76]

Maybe this is why Torre called him "A-Fraud" in his new book.

[heavy-set 39]

A-roid

A-Fraud

Stray-Rod

Pay-Rod

 

 

2002 2003 2004

BA .300 .298 .286

HR 57 47 36

RBI 142 118 106

SLG .623 .600 .512

 

 

roids dont help

[posty 2,822]

LOL @ ARoid...

[kilroy69 1,270]

If he tested positive for anabolic roids then you know he just shifted to HGH once caught.

[GettnHuge 2]

[Reality 3,122]

What is shocking about a dude going from a rail to buff, anybody who thought he wasn't was very naive.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

And MLB continues to rue their decades long stance of not having a stance on steroids.

[surferskin 31]

What is shocking about a dude going from a rail to buff, anybody who thought he wasn't was very naive.

[GettnHuge 2]

And MLB continues to rue their decades long stance of not having a stance on steroids.

 

What's msot ridiculous is they KNEW that this drug test was coming and when. All these dumb fockers had

to do was lay off the roids for about a month. besides stupidity, I'd have to say arrogance is the other

factor. they went ahead and did it anyway because they're in a union which tells them no way no how

will there be a drug policy. They knew they could walk over the owners, but they didn't expect Prez Bush

to get the feds involved nor did they expect the extreme negative publicity.

 

[edjr 6,914]

what's the most shocking is NewbieJr not replying to this thread.

[NewbieJr 541]

Ohhhhhh, I see. This is the news that has Edjr's panties in a bunch! I got it now.

 

First off, Barry Bonds' phony record is what made me a fan of ARod. He was the next logical guy to break the record. If this report is true, then Rodriguez is no better than Bonds and his record will be a farce, too. No sweat off my back. Actually the whole Bonds-HR-record seems so unimportant compared to what it was when 'the chase' was going on. Has there ever been a more-forgotten superstar than Bonds and a less talked about record than Bonds' HR record? If it weren't for his perjury hearing, he wouldn't even be in the public consiousness.

 

As for ARod and that list of 103 players, why isn't this list made public and official? This happened in 2003 and they're reporting it in 2009? Who's protecting all these cheaters?

[GettnHuge 2]

Ohhhhhh, I see. This is the news that has Edjr's panties in a bunch! I got it now.

 

First off, Barry Bonds' phony record is what made me a fan of ARod. He was the next logical guy to break the record. If this report is true, then Rodriguez is no better than Bonds and his record will be a farce, too. No sweat off my back. Actually the whole Bonds-HR-record seems so unimportant compared to what it was when 'the chase' was going on. Has there ever been a more-forgotten superstar than Bonds and a less talked about record than Bonds' HR record? If it weren't for his perjury hearing, he wouldn't even be in the public consiousness.

 

As for ARod and that list of 103 players, why isn't this list made public and official? This happened in 2003 and they're reporting it in 2009? Who's protecting all these cheaters?

 

uhh because baseball was more than happy to seal away the results (as with their union agreement) and at the time hope it all

just fades away

[Savage Beast 1]

Breaking news, water is wet.

 

How do you think anybody with big arms like A-Rod's makes it to the Major Leagues? Not by their natural talents.

 

A-Rod was a 225 pound short stop for God's sake, and people thought he didn't take steriods? Who?

[ROCKET 0]

I'm sure Arlen Specter will ask for a commision to investigate this and the impact it had on the Phillies winning a title.

[BMoney 0]

jose canseco......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

right again

 

he may be a kooky freak..but give the guy credit..he didnt lie....

[Big_Pete 0]

eagerly awaiting newbie's response.

I see that he posted, but serioulsy, do you think that any of your team doesn't take roids as well?

I'll tell you one thing, it wouldn't surprise me if 99+% of all athletes didn't take some form of steroids/HGH/whatever undetectable performance enhancer there is. When MILLIONS of dollars is on the line because of your individual stats, I promise you that everyone is on them. Either make them legal, or quit testing for them, because they are used by everyone, so it isn't like one person takes them and is cheating everyone else. Everyone takes them, so if you get busted, so what? everyone else is taking them, you don't have the "competitive advantage" that the news reports, you are just like everyone else.

I say make them legal, that way this becomes a non-issue and we can all move the fock on.

Also, back pre 1990's, steroids were legal, so why not asterik the "old" records as well? Because you know they were probably on the joice, especially seeing it was legal. I hate baseball, but fock me, I hate all these "they cheated" bastards more!

[GettnHuge 2]

it's a shame his name isn't alex heminguez

[NewbieJr 541]

Ken Griffey Jr is the last great power hitter.

 

 

Or Ryan Howard.

[Snoopy1 0]

As for ARod and that list of 103 players, why isn't this list made public and official? This happened in 2003 and they're reporting it in 2009? Who's protecting all these cheaters?

 

MLB to get a steroid policy had to prove to the union that a high percentage of players were juiced...can't remember the percentage of the top of my head. So the first testing was just to see how many were juiced and if was above the threshold it would automatically lead to them starting the steroid policy. The entire thing was supposed to be completely confidential.

 

SI's got 4 sources who've verified the entire thing-so it sounds like he's been nabbed. But as far as protecting the cheaters, it was part of the agreement with the union to get the the program started in the first place...so basically the union was protecting them.

[edjr 6,914]

I see that he posted, but serioulsy, do you think that any of your team doesn't take roids as well?

 

This has nothing to do with "my team". This has everything to do with newbieje sticking his head in the sand and saying Arod is clean will break the HR record.

 

someone said a few years back upwards of 70% of major leaguers did steroids? I bet that is pretty damned accurate. if it gives you an advantage and other guys around you are doing it, why wouldn't you, especially if there are potentially millions of dollars at the end of that tunnel?

[NewbieJr 541]

This has nothing to do with "my team". This has everything to do with newbieje sticking his head in the sand and saying Arod is clean will break the HR record.

I didn't dislike Bonds until he started cheating, either. What's your point? Do you think I had access to the 104 names on that list and was covering up for ARod? He's now in the same boat as Bonds, IMO....a cheater who's stats mean nothing. It's not all that complicated. If a report came out tomorrow that said Hank Aaron used steroids, then Babe Ruth would be the home run king in my opinion. This isn't rocket science, Edjr. Try to keep up.

[Snoopy1 0]

Union to blame.

 

Those test results were supposed to have been destroyed, expunged, wiped away. And they would have been obliterated, had the union not kept them around for no good reason.

[GettnHuge 2]

I didn't dislike Bonds until he started cheating, either. What's your point? Do you think I had access to the 104 names on that list and was covering up for ARod? He's now in the same boat as Bonds, IMO....a cheater who's stats mean nothing. It's not all that complicated. If a report came out tomorrow that said Hank Aaron used steroids, then Babe Ruth would be the home run king in my opinion. This isn't rocket science, Edjr. Try to keep up.

 

my absolutest favourite comparison pics of bonds from his *record* season and just 3 years prior when Mcguire hit 70 and

he decided to start joosin.

rink

rink

[Cuse9 131]

A Rod is definitly guilty of using roids. He proved it himself.

 

When asked about it, his reply wasn't "Hell no!" It was you'll have to talk to my union. Same as McGwire, sometimes the answers you don't give are your confession.

[ROCKET 0]

A Rod is definitly guilty of using roids. He proved it himself.

 

When asked about it, his reply wasn't "Hell no!" It was you'll have to talk to my union. Same as McGwire, sometimes the answers you don't give are your confession.

 

 

How can he dispute it if they have the test results as evidence?

[Stumpnov 0]

my absolutest favourite comparison pics of bonds from his *record* season and just 3 years prior when Mcguire hit 70 and

he decided to start joosin.

rink

rink

 

Bonds juiced and all but that is all you can do? His arms are the same size in both pics.

 

3:1 Griffy or Ripken gets nailed in the next 5 years

[kilroy69 1,270]

my absolutest favourite comparison pics of bonds from his *record* season and just 3 years prior when Mcguire hit 70 and

he decided to start joosin.

rink

rink

Really this is my fav comparison.

 

Pre and Post roids

[posty 2,822]

Really this is my fav comparison.

 

Pre and Post roids

 

Bonds was like what, 18-19 in that picture? He was still growing at that time...

[Snoopy1 0]

Meh-Bonds, he's going to jail and will probably never get in the HOF. And maybe...just maybe...he'll have his numbers striken from the record books. Along with Arods, McGwires, Sosa and Clemens.

[edjr 6,914]

Meh-Bonds, he's going to jail and will probably never get in the HOF. And maybe...just maybe...he'll have his numbers striken from the record books. Along with Arods, McGwires, Sosa and Clemens.

 

because only those 5 did steroids.

[Snoopy1 0]

because only those 5 did steroids.

 

You know I really didn't think I needed to list every player in Mitchell or the union-pee test list, since I've stated before every one of them should be booted.

 

Go drink some coffee Ed, you're kind of dense today....well more dense than usual.

[NewbieJr 541]

Meh-Bonds, he's going to jail and will probably never get in the HOF. And maybe...just maybe...he'll have his numbers striken from the record books. Along with Arods, McGwires, Sosa and Clemens.

I don't know if it's really neccessary to have their accomplishments 'officially' striken. Bonds' record, along with the magical McGwire/Sosa year, have already been rendered as fraudulent in most people's minds.

 

The best part of all of it is that most of those guys were awesome baseball players who's accomplishments would have been considered among the best-ever in baseball if they'd have stayed natural. Their cheating pretty-much made all of them seem like frauds. That's the glorious payback in all of this. McGwire and Sosa probably benefitted from doing roids. They wouldn't have been hall of famers anyway. At least the roids made them well-known for a few years.

[tikigods 76]

I wonder now if this factored into the Red Sox not trading for him and taking Schilling instead.

 

Theo....is a genius.

[edjr 6,914]

You know I really didn't think I needed to list every player in Mitchell or the union-pee test list, since I've stated before every one of them should be booted.

 

Go drink some coffee Ed, you're kind of dense today....well more dense than usual.

I don't drink coffee, could that be my problem?

[wiffleball 4,797]

How many players were tested? All of them?

 

To me, the big story isn't A-Fraud as is the fact that 104 players tested positive for A-Steroids. That's 4 focking entire squads. That's why I'm curious about the sample size. That pretty much kills the whole "it's a handful of guys" talk.

[cbfalcon 827]

The best part of all of it is that most of those guys were awesome baseball players who's accomplishments would have been considered among the best-ever in baseball if they'd have stayed natural. Their cheating pretty-much made all of them seem like frauds. That's the glorious payback in all of this. McGwire and Sosa probably benefitted from doing roids. They wouldn't have been hall of famers anyway. At least the roids made them well-known for a few years.

 

That's the sad thing. You could just eliminate the roid years from Bonds career and he was already a Hall of Famer. But as has been told, he got jealous of the attention McGwire and Sosa were getting and decided he should do it too. In that moment, I actually feel somewhat bad for the guy.

 

Clemens as well. HOFer without the stuff.

 

But oh well. This whole steroid issue has slowly killed baseball over the past several years. I've already mourned it. Being upset about ARod would be like being upset that an old friend isn't about to be resurrected from the grave. In other words, ratts ass.

[KSB2424 3,174]

Good Gawd. I've been saying the same thing for like 4 years now.

 

Because no one really knows who all used steroids when it was running rampant (because MLB had no official testing policy), then the whole era has an asterick besided it. Not one person (Bonds), not 104 people, the whole damn era.

 

All the records should stand, all the players should be in the HOF if they were good enough. However on their plaque this should be at the bottom: *played in MLB's steroid era

 

Stop with the Congress hearings, witch hunts, multi million dollar costing reports, yada yada. We all know what went down. Roided pitchers were pitching to roided hitters and just because you were not caught doesn't mean you were clean. Put a strict policy in place and lets move forward. Enough already. :yawn:

[Sho Nuff 720]

Good Gawd. I've been saying the same thing for like 4 years now.

 

Because no one really knows who all used steroids when it was running rampant (because MLB had no official testing policy), then the whole era has an asterick besided it. Not one person (Bonds), not 104 people, the whole damn era.

 

All the records should stand, all the players should be in the HOF if they were good enough. However on their plaque this should be at the bottom: *played in MLB's steroid era

 

Stop with the Congress hearings, witch hunts, multi million dollar costing reports, yada yada. We all know what went down. Roided pitchers were pitching to roided hitters and just because you were not caught doesn't mean you were clean. Put a strict policy in place and lets move forward. Enough already. :yawn:

Are you going to put asterisks by every pitcher in the dead ball era too?

Or batters in the live ball era?

 

Take it football, how about asterisks next to WRs recently benefitting from the rules against DBs?

Fact is...we have no idea what any of the old timers were taking either.

The things were not against baseball's rules...same as it went in football.

Prior to testing...many were using.

Now, if you get caught after testing started...yup, asterisk the crap out of em.

But putting it next to everyone from this era...you better backup and do the same for other eras too.