Right Wingers Beware

[BunnysBastatrds 2,701]

Homeland Security is now targeting right wingers and ex-millitary. Pretty scary stuff. I thought racial profiling was a bad practice. I guess political pfofiling is acceptable? What a focking joke!!!

 

"The report warned law enforcement agencies to watch for suspicious individuals who may have bumper stickers for third-party political candidates such as Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin."

 

 

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803

[NorthernVike 2,100]

This must be more of that "Impresses" that newbie keeps talking about.

 

 

 

 

 

And it was accomplished in his first 100 days

[FranksTanks 0]

Sometimes it doesn't hurt to stay one step ahead of crazy people.

[NorthernVike 2,100]

Sometimes it doesn't hurt to stay one step ahead of crazy people.

 

 

So all returning Vets and Ron Paul supporters are "crazy people"? Well, except for BLS, we all know he's whacked.

[tikigods 77]

Homeland Security is now targeting right wingers and ex-millitary. Pretty scary stuff. I thought racial profiling was a bad practice. I guess political pfofiling is acceptable? What a focking joke!!!

 

"The report warned law enforcement agencies to watch for suspicious individuals who may have bumper stickers for third-party political candidates such as Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin."

 

 

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94803

 

Will they be using the Bush Wiretapping doctrine to do this?

[FranksTanks 0]

So all returning Vets and Ron Paul supporters are "crazy people"? Well, except for BLS, we all know he's whacked.

 

No, that's a dumb thing to say. that's a large umbrella you're casting there.

 

 

(U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and

radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from

military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the

capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out

violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist

groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from

the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.

— (U) After Operation Desert Shield/Storm in 1990-1991, some returning military

veterans—including Timothy McVeigh—joined or associated with rightwing

extremist groups.

— (U) A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that “large numbers

of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now

learning the art of warfare in the [u.S.] armed forces.”

— (U//LES) The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement

that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have

joined extremist groups.

 

In that sense, yes. Just because you served the county doesn't mean you get a free pass from going crazy.

 

Ron Paul supports on the other hand.. totally batshit crazy, every last one of them!

[swamp dog 0]

and this is worse than keeping tabs on liberal minorities?

 

no one hear remembers oklahoma city, apparently.

[swamp dog 0]

Sometimes it doesn't hurt to stay one step ahead of crazy people.

 

+1

[wiffleball 4,797]

One of them made the news recently:

 

A federal grand jury indicted a former Camp Lejeune Marine on Wednesday on charges that he threatened the life of Barack Obama, the U.S. Attorney's Office confirmed today.

 

Kody Brittingham, 20, formerly a lance corporal with 2nd Tank Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, was accused of making threats against Obama while he was president-elect, said Robin Zier, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's office for the eastern district of North Carolina.

 

Brittingham was arrested by the Jacksonville Police Department on breaking and entering charges in mid-December 2008.

 

Naval investigators discovered a journal allegedly written by Brittingham in his barracks after his arrest by civilian authorities in December. The journal contained plans on how to kill the president, as well as white supremacist material, a federal law enforcement official said.

http://www.enctoday.com/common/printer/vie...dn&id=62658

[wiffleball 4,797]

Military experience—ranging from failure at basic training to success in special operations forces—is found throughout the white supremacist extremist movement. FBI reporting indicates extremist leaders have historically favored recruiting active and former military personnel for their knowledge of firearms, explosives, and tactical skills and their access to weapons and intelligence in preparation for an anticipated war against the federal government, Jews, and people of color.

 

... The prestige which the extremist movement bestows upon members with military experience grants them the potential for influence beyond their numbers. Most extremist groups have some members with military experience, and those with military experience often hold positions of authority within the groups to which they belong.

 

... Military experience—often regardless of its length or type—distinguishes one within the extremist movement. While those with military backgrounds constitute a small percentage of white supremacist extremists, FBI investigations indicate they frequently have higher profiles within the movement, including recruitment and leadership roles.

Unclassified FBI doc written a year ago.

[tikigods 77]

I noticed FlaHawker hasn't been around in a few days.

[wiffleball 4,797]

This Marine is right on. Those now in power in Washington are hell-bent on destroying America and The Constitution. The Marine is right, America is a Republic, NOT a democracy, and what he says about laws that infringe on the 2nd Amendment is right. Any law that 'infringes' on the right to keep and bear arms is unconstitutional. This Marine is a patriot. Those that disagree with him, you know where the border is.

 

Everything he said int hat video is true. And if you weren't so blind to what is going on right now, ie. the government wanting to nationalize the banking systems, wanting to increase gun laws...not that there aren't over 20k already on the books, I could continue. The American people aren't free anymore, they just have a false sense of freedom, given to them to keep them complacent and happy as they go about their daily lives...but soon that will end.

 

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/wi...riots-form-more

 

Sound like any posters we know??

[Voltaire 5,522]

I couldn't be the only one who's noticed that a lot of hysterical rightwing folks are talking/acting sediciously because they lost the last two elections and have little prospects of winning in the forseeable future either. Hopefully the government keeps the First Amendment in mind at all times in this profiling.

[FlaHawker 24]

I noticed FlaHawker hasn't been around in a few days.

How would you know? You have me on ignore. Liar.

[FlaHawker 24]

I couldn't be the only one who's noticed that a lot of hysterical rightwing folks are talking/acting sediciously because they lost the last two elections and have little prospects of winning in the forseeable future either. Hopefully the government keeps the First Amendment in mind at all times in this profiling.

That's quite an accusation all the way from....China

[tikigods 77]

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Spoke too soon.

[Thornton Melon 651]

The report from DHS' Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines right-wing extremism in the U.S. as "divided into those groups, movements and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups) and those that are mainly anti-government, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

 

 

 

So, I guess believers in the 10th amendment are extremists

[Recliner Pilot 61]

It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."

 

So I guess if you are pro-life and/or against illegal immigration the Obama administration now considers you a threat to national security.

 

 

[FlaHawker 24]

Bring it on you lefty appeasers. Bring it on!

[swamp dog 0]

So I guess if you are pro-life and/or against illegal immigration the Obama administration now considers you a threat to national security.

 

if there weren't a history of nut jobs shooting doctors over the abortion issue, maybe there wouldn't be a need to keep an eye on those types?

 

and not ALL people against abortion...i would imagine just the ones that threaten violence or espouse those views as being righteously correct.

 

not all muslims are terrorists, either. know what i mean?

[pimptastic69 0]

Crap. I just took a facebook test that labeled me as Ron Paul.

[Voltaire 5,522]

That's quite an accusation all the way from....China

 

That's a message from the American mainstream to a resident in Whack-ville.

[GettnHuge 2]

and this is worse than keeping tabs on liberal minorities?

 

we don't have enough gov't translators for that, argument nullified

[NorthernVike 2,100]

Riddle me this libs.....

 

 

 

You claim Bush sent some 4,000 soldiers to their deaths, yet he was not fearful of our returning soldiers. Obama promises to bring the troops home and he has to issue National Security bulletins about them being a threat. Why is that?

[GuardBum 85]

(U//LES) Rightwing extremists are harnessing this historical election as a recruitment

tool. Many rightwing extremists are antagonistic toward the new presidential

administration and its perceived stance on a range of issues, including immigration and

citizenship, the expansion of social programs to minorities, and restrictions on firearms

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(U//FOUO) Perceptions on Poverty and Radicalization

(U//FOUO) Scholars and experts disagree over poverty’s role in motivating violent radicalization or

terrorist activity. High unemployment, however, has the potential to lead to alienation, thus increasing

an individual’s susceptibility to extremist ideas. According to a 2007 study from the German Institute

for Economic Research, there appears to be a strong association between a parent’s unemployment

status and the formation of rightwing extremist beliefs in their children—specifically xenophobia and

antidemocratic ideals.

ownership and use. Rightwing extremists are increasingly galvanized by these concerns

and leverage them as drivers for recruitment. From the 2008 election timeframe to the

present, rightwing extremists have capitalized on related racial and political prejudices in

expanded propaganda campaigns, thereby reaching out to a wider audience of potential

sympathizers.

— (U//LES) Most statements by rightwing extremists have been rhetorical,

expressing concerns about the election of the first African American president,

but stopping short of calls for violent action. In two instances in the run-up to the

election, extremists appeared to be in the early planning stages of some

threatening activity targeting the Democratic nominee, but law enforcement

interceded.

 

I don't see this as meaning third-party candidates. I see this as cult and hate organizations. Just my opinion.

 

Also my opinion is that what the last administration did for giving DHS so much power is that it has little to do with a President's authority. This department works so much outside the previous laws and rights that were written for them in things like the Patriot act that even the CiC himself can barely administer what they do.

[wiffleball 4,797]

I don't see this as meaning third-party candidates. I see this as cult and hate organizations. Just my opinion.

 

Also my opinion is that what the last administration did for giving DHS so much power is that it has little to do with a President's authority. This department works so much outside the previous laws and rights that were written for them in things like the Patriot act that even the CiC himself can barely administer what they do.

 

Yep. You'll notice the FBI document I posted was written almost a year before Obama took office.

 

But you know how these tards are. Hell, they tried to blame Obama for some guy not getting tickets to the Easter Egg Roll!

[Frank M 181]

I'll just use the same line all the neo-cons used in response to complaints about wiretapping: If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

While I don't support domestic spying of any kind, I do find this kind of funny.

 

When the right wingers passed all this crap (under Bush) it was great as far as they were concerned. "Hell yes, gotta see what those Muslims are up to."

 

Now that the eye of Big Brother turns toward them, it is all of a sudden a doomsday scenario.

 

Irony, she is a fickle b!tch.

[wiffleball 4,797]

While I don't support domestic spying of any kind, I do find this kind of funny.

 

When the right wingers passed all this crap (under Bush) it was great as far as they were concerned. "Hell yes, gotta see what those Muslims are up to."

 

Now that the eye of Big Brother turns toward them, it is all of a sudden a doomsday scenario.

 

Irony, she is a fickle b!tch.

 

- Especially when this particular watchlist actually started under Bush.*

 

- Probably not what Darth Cheney had in mind, but...

 

 

 

* or Nixon, or...

[EAwer 1]

While I don't support domestic spying of any kind, I do find this kind of funny.

 

When the right wingers passed all this crap (under Bush) it was great as far as they were concerned. "Hell yes, gotta see what those Muslims are up to."

 

Now that the eye of Big Brother turns toward them, it is all of a sudden a doomsday scenario.

 

Irony, she is a fickle b!tch.

Generally, people who supported Paul, Barr, or Baldwin in 2008 are against wiretapping. It is on the Neo Cons, not those who lean Libertarian, who support this violation of civil liberty. This report is quite alarming to me. I have two bumper stickers on my car, a Ron Paul one, and one that says I do not vote for tax hikers from NTU.org. I do not think I pose any threat to the country. I am just a student who is just scared that my future income will be taxed at ~50% or greater in order to pay for the debt that has been amassed over the last decade, and looks like it is going to grow even more over the Obama era. I want to smoke marijuana while I take walks. I do not want to be drafted into a meaningless war. I want my US dollars to maintain value. I want the option to purchase a firearm, any firearm. I do not want to fear the government taking away my property through eminent domain. Do these things make me a domestic terrorist, someone that the government should watch out for? I hope not.

[FranksTanks 0]

Generally, people who supported Paul, Barr, or Baldwin in 2008 are against wiretapping. It is on the Neo Cons, not those who lean Libertarian, who support this violation of civil liberty. This report is quite alarming to me. I have two bumper stickers on my car, a Ron Paul one, and one that says I do not vote for tax hikers from NTU.org. I do not think I pose any threat to the country. I am just a student who is just scared that my future income will be taxed at ~50% or greater in order to pay for the debt that has been amassed over the last decade, and looks like it is going to grow even more over the Obama era. I want to smoke marijuana while I take walks. I do not want to be drafted into a meaningless war. I want my US dollars to maintain value. I want the option to purchase a firearm, any firearm. I do not want to fear the government taking away my property through eminent domain. Do these things make me a domestic terrorist, someone that the government should watch out for? I hope not.

 

You know, I just stopped smoking pot in college when it started to make me paranoid. HTH.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

I'll just use the same line all the neo-cons used in response to complaints about wiretapping: If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about.

 

Did you use this same line during the Bush years too?

[BMoney 0]

what about left wingers and goalies?

 

 

its starts tonight, boys

[Frank M 181]

Did you use this same line during the Bush years too?

 

Actually, I find any expansion of the government into my personal life disturbing. The fact in this instance is that the same people so worried about this are the ones who had absolutely no problem with the invasion of privacy that was the Patriot Act.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Generally, people who supported Paul, Barr, or Baldwin in 2008 are against wiretapping. It is on the Neo Cons, not those who lean Libertarian, who support this violation of civil liberty. This report is quite alarming to me. I have two bumper stickers on my car, a Ron Paul one, and one that says I do not vote for tax hikers from NTU.org. I do not think I pose any threat to the country. I am just a student who is just scared that my future income will be taxed at ~50% or greater in order to pay for the debt that has been amassed over the last decade, and looks like it is going to grow even more over the Obama era. I want to smoke marijuana while I take walks. I do not want to be drafted into a meaningless war. I want my US dollars to maintain value. I want the option to purchase a firearm, any firearm. I do not want to fear the government taking away my property through eminent domain. Do these things make me a domestic terrorist, someone that the government should watch out for? I hope not.

 

I couldn't agree with you more (except the gun thing). That's why I opposed the Patriot Act when it was passed. But I have to appreciate the Neocon morons who lapped it up then being so virulently opposed now.

 

It basically says "We don't mind a dictatorship, so long as we're in charge."

[Brad GLuckman 519]

Actually, I find any expansion of the government into my personal life disturbing. The fact in this instance is that the same people so worried about this are the ones who had absolutely no problem with the invasion of privacy that was the Patriot Act.

 

Agreed, but that goes both ways. If you were against it then, you should also be against it now.

[FeelingMN 273]

It basically says "We don't mind a dictatorship, so long as we're in charge."

 

Can't that be said for both sides of the aisle?

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Can't that be said for both sides of the aisle?

 

 

Sure. That's why both of our current parties need to become relics of the past, and a new libertarian party needs to emerge.

[EAwer 1]

I couldn't agree with you more (except the gun thing). That's why I opposed the Patriot Act when it was passed. But I have to appreciate the Neocon morons who lapped it up then being so virulently opposed now.

 

It basically says "We don't mind a dictatorship, so long as we're in charge."

 

 

but this message is not towards your typical mccain voting neocon. This message is directed at really, the far right wing that borders on anarchism/libertarianism. Which is what most Paul, Barr, Baldwin supporters are. There are some fake libertarians, easily identifiable on this forum by those that claim to both be libertarians and support the Iraq/Afghanistan wars. The two are blatantly incompatible. But us liberty loving, individual respecting, peace minded libertarians are targeted.

[BudBro 185]

but this message is not towards your typical mccain voting neocon. This message is directed at really, the far right wing that borders on anarchism/libertarianism. Which is what most Paul, Barr, Baldwin supporters are. There are some fake libertarians, easily identifiable on this forum by those that claim to both be libertarians and support the Iraq/Afghanistan wars. The two are blatantly incompatible. But us liberty loving, individual respecting, peace minded libertarians are targeted.

 

they (the morons from dhs who wrote this) lumped you in with "white supremacy" groups. that's how stupid this whole bunch who surround obama really are. skinheads who worship hitler and the reich are following a fascist ideal, which is exactly what liberals who voted for obama are following. fascism, communism, socialism, statism and nazi-ism are all exactly the opposite of "right wing."