phillybear 366 Posted May 27, 2009 I'm still looking for the alleged admission in the above statement. Maybe you could point it out Phillybear. I'm sure you've found it as you're such a hater of all things bullsh!t and all. TIA. Geez. Do I have to do all the thinking around here? I feel like gathering all of you knuckleheads together and hitting all of you over the head with a mallet, whack-a-mole style. No proof. What is so hard to understand? It completely undermines everything the gays have been lying to you about for decades. It's a house of cards that just crumbled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted May 27, 2009 Geez. Do I have to do all the thinking around here? I feel like gathering all of you knuckleheads together and hitting all of you over the head with a mallet, whack-a-mole style. No proof. What is so hard to understand? It completely undermines everything the gays have been lying to you about for decades. It's a house of cards that just crumbled. Not really. You think lack of a gene = the end all be all of 'proof'. There's no specific autism or parkinson's gene either. Adn, I'd be happy if you just did some of the thinking around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,680 Posted May 27, 2009 Geez. Do I have to do all the thinking around here? I feel like gathering all of you knuckleheads together and hitting all of you over the head with a mallet, whack-a-mole style. No proof. What is so hard to understand? It completely undermines everything the gays have been lying to you about for decades. It's a house of cards that just crumbled. So if not genetic, what causes it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted May 27, 2009 I am wise in many ways, young grasshoppa. It has not been proven. The APA has concluded it cannot be proven. What more do you want? So, I declare a cease and desist to all people from using the disingenuous statement "born gay". It's the bullsh!t that bothers. People make up stories, get proven wrong, and nothing has changed. Why aren't we hearing more about this story. It's a conspiracy, man. you simply cannot say this. just because it hasn't been proven (yet) that there isn't a gene doesn't mean someone isn't born that way. as pointed out by someone else, i've seen kids that you made you say "man, that kid is ghey" as early as 3 years old. i had a kid on my soccer team when i was 6 that when I got into high school and was talking with another old teammate I said "yeah, Anthony sure seemed ghey even in 1st grade" only to find out later that Anthony later became "Love" the ghey cross-dressing hair stylist. There are WAY too many things that have to happen during the development of a child to come out perfect (before all you h0mos get offended, i'm not saying gheys are imperfect). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted May 27, 2009 Not really. You think lack of a gene = the end all be all of 'proof'. There's no specific autism or parkinson's gene either. Adn, I'd be happy if you just did some of the thinking around here. So you're comparing homosexuality to a disease? I think we're finally getting somewhere! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted May 27, 2009 So you're comparing homosexuality to a disease? I think we're finally getting somewhere! autism isn't a disease, it's a condition. and it's a good analogy because autism isn't genetic and appears to be nothing more than a variation in how the brain processes information. and again, there have lots of studies linking prenatal development with classic autistic changes to brain structure/function. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted May 27, 2009 autism isn't a disease, it's a condition. and it's a good analogy because autism isn't genetic and appears to be nothing more than a variation in how the brain processes information. and again, there have lots of studies linking prenatal development with classic autistic changes to brain structure/function. I believe he mentioned Parkinson's too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted May 27, 2009 Geez. Do I have to do all the thinking around here? I feel like gathering all of you knuckleheads together and hitting all of you over the head with a mallet, whack-a-mole style. No proof. What is so hard to understand? It completely undermines everything the gays have been lying to you about for decades. It's a house of cards that just crumbled. Maybe you need to whack yourself in the head a few times as you seem to be the having trouble understanding here. The APA, to their credit, is admitting that at this point there is no proof regarding a homosexual gene. No one is arguing otherwise. But your article says that the APA had an admission that there is no gay gene. Not that there's no proof for a gay gene, but that there is "no homosexual gene". PERIOD. FULL STOP. I don't see that admission anywhere. So until it's pointed out to me I'll just go ahead and assume that all of your chest thumping about hating bullsh!t is bullsh!t itself since the article you posted is based on a bullsh!t unsupported statement from the word go. Also, even if there is no gay gene, a distinct possibility as far as I'm concerned, that doesn't preclude the idea that other pre-birth factors - such as hormonal fluctuations as mentioned earlier - could still lead people to be predisposed at birth. To try and persuade people that the question has somehow been settled based on the fact that the question remains unsettled is a special kind of sinister bullsh!t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted May 27, 2009 autism isn't a disease, it's a condition. and it's a good analogy because autism isn't genetic and appears to be nothing more than a variation in how the brain processes information. and again, there have lots of studies linking prenatal development with classic autistic changes to brain structure/function. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted May 27, 2009 Autism also happens to be a brain disorder...so you might want to save your high fives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted May 27, 2009 Autism also happens to be a brain disorder...so you might want to save your high fives. So, how is that relevant to the discussion? I'll spell it out one more time for you: The fact that there is no gay 'gene' doesn't make it any less plausible that gheys have no control over their Preferences. - Except for being a faag - that's a whole 'nother rant in a seperate thread. It'd be like Phillthy saying - "They studied Mike Fox and they couldn't find a gene for Parkinsons - so he must be FAKING it! He can be cured if he just has a "relationship" with Christ." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted May 27, 2009 I believe he mentioned Parkinson's too. and i believe I didn't, on purpose. i don't know enough about Parkinson's to comment. i'm not defending gays and I'm probably as big a h0mophobe as you'll find on this board. I nearly got fired from a job at 14 yrs old when a gay 25 yr old co-worker pinched my ass and I nearly threw him through a wall. nearly got arrested when I was 21 when a buddy and I were coming out of a bar and the bar next door (which I didn't know was a gay bar or had a gay night or whatever) let out. I was drunk and didn't know the 40 guys exiting the bar were all gay, until somebody got a little fresh and I started throwing punches. City police had to drag me and my buddy out of the fight and I was still swinging when they were trying to cuff me. Whatever you want to call it, it's something I don't understand or even condone. However, as vehement as I am against it, I also recognize that some people are, in my opinion, born that way. Now, that doesn't explain the overly flamboyant behavior (faggity as described inthe other thread), which is another topic altogether. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted May 27, 2009 So, how is that relevant to the discussion? I'll spell it out one more time for you: The fact that there is no gay 'gene' doesn't make it any less plausible that gheys have no control over their Preferences. - Except for being a faag - that's a whole 'nother rant in a seperate thread. It'd be like Phillthy saying - "They studied Mike Fox and they couldn't find a gene for Parkinsons - so he must be FAKING it! He can be cured if he just has a "relationship" with Christ." No, you bringing diseases and brain disorders to the discussion, just gives more proof that homosexuality is not natural. I was just agreeing with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToadSprocket 12 Posted May 27, 2009 My parents used to tell me that hoomoosexuality was a sin. And I was just thinking, do a couple of really mean bad guys wake up one day and say. "Let's go rob a bank! No, let's kill someone! Nah, let's buttfock!" I don't think so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 27, 2009 Not really. You think lack of a gene = the end all be all of 'proof'. There's no specific autism or parkinson's gene either. Adn, I'd be happy if you just did some of the thinking around here. When's the last time you saw a Parkinson's Pride Parade. The first parade in history to travel 2 blocks in 14 hours. Most of the time being spent watching the guy at the front of the parade unsuccessfully trying to pick his baton off the ground, and untangling the cheerleaders as they tried to build a pyramid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted May 27, 2009 No, you bringing diseases and brain disorders to the discussion, just gives more proof that homosexuality is not natural. I was just agreeing with you. And Autism and Parkison's are not natural? What are they? Fake? Not really sure where you're going with this. - Unless you want to say that ghey is a disease and shouldn't be recognized becuase it's not natural to be gay. - Any more than it's not natural to have Autism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted May 27, 2009 My parents used to tell me that hoomoosexuality was a sin. And I was just thinking, do a couple of really mean bad guys wake up one day and say. "Let's go rob a bank! No, let's kill someone! Nah, let's buttfock!" I don't think so. What's your point? There are plenty of sins that aren't illegal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted May 27, 2009 No, you bringing diseases and brain disorders to the discussion, just gives more proof that homosexuality is not natural. I was just agreeing with you. well hell, of course it's not natural. nature gave them girls their parts custom made so we could put our parts into them and make babies and have fun doing it. slightly off topic, but this is part of my ongoing and ever broadening theory that nature is slowly doing this to us purposely. nature is causing slight mutations (like gheyness) which prevent us from breeding and further destroying the planet. It's momma Natures way of controlling our population. Not to mention the spread of the AIDS is markedly higher in the male homosexual population than in any other segment. more gheys + more aids = less humans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted May 27, 2009 so, phillybear chooses to impale unsuspecting males with his flaccid man rod? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 27, 2009 So if not genetic, what causes it? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted May 27, 2009 No, you bringing diseases and brain disorders to the discussion, just gives more proof that homosexuality is not natural. I was just agreeing with you. Did somone say Strawman? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,680 Posted May 27, 2009 How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? Three, but that doesn't answer the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted May 27, 2009 Did somone say Strawman? Did I bring up autism and parkinson's disease? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 27, 2009 you simply cannot say this. just because it hasn't been proven (yet) that there isn't a gene doesn't mean someone isn't born that way. as pointed out by someone else, i've seen kids that you made you say "man, that kid is ghey" as early as 3 years old. i had a kid on my soccer team when i was 6 that when I got into high school and was talking with another old teammate I said "yeah, Anthony sure seemed ghey even in 1st grade" only to find out later that Anthony later became "Love" the ghey cross-dressing hair stylist. There are WAY too many things that have to happen during the development of a child to come out perfect (before all you h0mos get offended, i'm not saying gheys are imperfect). And there are a bunch of broads now going lezzy because they got sick of men or are coming off a bad relationship. You think it's not a choice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted May 27, 2009 And there are a bunch of broads now going lezzy because they got sick of men or are coming off a bad relationship. You think it's not a choice? let's be clear, no one has a problem with lesbians, EVER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 27, 2009 Maybe you need to whack yourself in the head a few times as you seem to be the having trouble understanding here. The APA, to their credit, is admitting that at this point there is no proof regarding a homosexual gene. No one is arguing otherwise. But your article says that the APA had an admission that there is no gay gene. Not that there's no proof for a gay gene, but that there is "no homosexual gene". PERIOD. FULL STOP. I don't see that admission anywhere. So until it's pointed out to me I'll just go ahead and assume that all of your chest thumping about hating bullsh!t is bullsh!t itself since the article you posted is based on a bullsh!t unsupported statement from the word go. Also, even if there is no gay gene, a distinct possibility as far as I'm concerned, that doesn't preclude the idea that other pre-birth factors - such as hormonal fluctuations as mentioned earlier - could still lead people to be predisposed at birth. To try and persuade people that the question has somehow been settled based on the fact that the question remains unsettled is a special kind of sinister bullsh!t. You must first address your question properly. Oh Great Analyzer of Data, may I have a moment of your precious time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 27, 2009 so, phillybear chooses to impale unsuspecting males with his flaccid man rod? It's like trying to hammer a nail with a Twinkie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted May 27, 2009 And there are a bunch of broads now going lezzy because they got sick of men or are coming off a bad relationship. You think it's not a choice? no, that's "nurture"...something has happened in their life to steer them in that direction, either consciously or subconsciously. but little Jimmy who wants to play doctor with other little boys when they're 4 years old didn't make that choice...something made it for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted May 27, 2009 And there are a bunch of broads now going lezzy because they got sick of men or are coming off a bad relationship. You think it's not a choice? I think for some, its a choice, for others, its not. I knew a bunch of girls in high school and college that were "lesbian" or "bi". They were full of sh!t. They just thought it was cool and edgy, plus the guys thought it was hot. Most of them are married with kids now. But there were a couple of ghey dudes at my high school. There is no way they chose that. Those guys took daily abuse, derision, and ridicule, not to mention cack. There was even a big flap at prom because the redneck contingent (they were actually fake yuppie rednecks driving $40,000 tricked out pickups) threatened to "beat some ass if the faggots showed up as couples." The rest of the class intervened, and they showed up or not as they chose. But my point is that there is no way a rational person would choose that kind of grief. Hell, for most kids, being like everyone else is THE GOAL of high school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted May 27, 2009 let's be clear, no one has a problem with lesbians, EVER I have an issue with them. Their pron sucks. Boring, boring, boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted May 27, 2009 And there are a bunch of broads now going lezzy because they got sick of men or are coming off a bad relationship. You think it's not a choice? Look, everyone knows all women are 2 glasses of chardonay away from being lesbians. They're born that way. You know how they know how to kiss better than guys do? Because they kiss each other as teen girls. It's true. They dance with each other, watch each other dress, feel each other's boobies - Face it, women are more lesbian than straight. In fact, the straight part is the act - they learned to adapt when it turned out the men had all the money and power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,680 Posted May 27, 2009 I have an issue with them. Their pron sucks. Boring, boring, boring. I think philly just came out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted May 27, 2009 I have an issue with them. Their pron sucks. Boring, boring, boring. Lezzie pron is the greatest! That reminds me of the time my wife found a bunch of videos I had downloaded to my computer. I had them hidden in a folder called "tax documents" or something, so she had to have done a word search. I got sh!t about that for days. I am much more careful now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted May 27, 2009 You must first address your question properly. Oh Great Analyzer of Data, may I have a moment of your precious time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted May 27, 2009 I think philly just came out. Well it was his CHOICE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted May 27, 2009 Nature versus Nurture has been debated by scholars longer than LTBDE has been alive. We sure as shiit ain't gonna figure it out here. But Philly does bring up a good point. Both "People are born ghey" and "The Big Bang" are taught in the mainstream as more truth worthy (even as fact) than the alternatives. Yet neither of them can be proven either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank M 181 Posted May 27, 2009 Nature versus Nurture has been debated by scholars longer than LTBDE has been alive. We sure as shiit ain't gonna figure it out here. But Philly does bring up a good point. Both "People are born ghey" and "The Big Bang" are taught in the mainstream as more truth worthy (even as fact) than the alternatives. Yet neither of them can be proven either. Are we going there? Scientific theories vs religious theories? Just let me know before it starts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted May 27, 2009 Are we going there? Scientific theories vs religious theories? Just let me know before it starts. Not to totally change the subject but I think what he's saying...it's similar because the way some "theories" are taught as fact or the only logical conclusion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snoopy1 0 Posted May 27, 2009 Nature versus Nurture has been debated by scholars longer than LTBDE has been alive. We sure as shiit ain't gonna figure it out here. But Philly does bring up a good point. Both "People are born ghey" and "The Big Bang" are taught in the mainstream as more truth worthy (even as fact) than the alternatives. Yet neither of them can be proven either. Not to get to much into a big thing, but I always find it a tad amusing when it's said it can't be proven...besides you know asking a gay guy, "hey were you always gay...ummmm yeah." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted May 27, 2009 Are we going there? Scientific theories vs religious theories? Just let me know before it starts. No need to go all the way there. Just as long as everyone understands what the term 'theories' mean we should be good. As in the Big Bang THEORY and the People are born ghey THEORY. And it is taught that way as opposed to fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites