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And if Charles Manson was a houseguest on the next Big Brother, it would draw great ratings, too. What's your point?

 

People used to watch Woods because he was some larger-than-life, perfect athlete. Now he's a freaking circus act. Instead of it just being ABC and the Golf Channel covering his matches, Extra and Inside Edition will be there.

 

Congrats, Tiger. You've doubled your audience. :rolleyes:

 

charles manson's art and autographs are extremely valuable. why would anyone pay so much for something from an insane nut like him?

it's a funny world

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`Tigger better stay alive til 2010...thats a lot of death pool points to be had....he has to be getting close to suicide watch

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`Tigger better stay alive til 2010...thats a lot of death pool points to be had....he has to be getting close to suicide watch

Now, THAT would take this story up to the next level.

 

Just Do It.

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The next time El'tigre tees off it is going to turn into the movie "Happy Gilmore". There will be thousands of people heckling him on every tee box :rolleyes:

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Chaos In Tigerland: A Deadspin Investigation Into The Sexual Habits Of Pro Athletes link - sorta-safe-for-work?

 

Here's a story about three women and their relationships with Tiger Woods. One is a porn star you haven't met. The other two are rumored mistresses, but they're really much more important than that. Welcome to Tigerland.

 

The biggest misconception about the Tiger cheating scandal is that Rachel Uchitel and Kalika Moquin, two of the first three women named by the tabloids, were his full-time lovers. They may have been at some point (especially Rachel, some say on numerous occasions) but that was not their primary function. No, Uchitel's main job was to provide women for Tiger during his globetrotting excursions to various tournaments, charity functions and ######-and-run private-jet weekends with his Fortune 500 party pals that he seemed to enjoy so much. Kalika Moquin? Many Las Vegas insiders doubt that she ever slept with Tiger. But she did set him up with some sweet VIP service at The Bank or at Bare like any good hostess would: a roomful of available girls with a certain look that Tiger wanted, flown in just for the occasion. This is the world of high-end nightclub VIP treatment, where velvet ropes guard comfy, cloistered areas with leathery couches and bottles of Grey Goose, everything catered to the wishes of the much sought-after professional athlete clientele. And, yes, sports fans, that means loading their velvet-roped stable with fake-boobied ponies to ######. "The fact that people don't understand that these affairs are well-orchestrated is pretty naive," says one VIP concierge who has worked with Uchitel (we'll call him "Serge" for the sake of not always having to say "VIP Concierge Number 1" when using his quotes). "Rachel Uchitel works for Tiger the minute he gets off the plane wherever he is: from dinner, to photos, to nightclubs, to drugs, to girls — whatever he wants."

 

And Tiger's a mighty whale. Serge estimates she's probably on retainer for about 10-15k per month to handle all his dirty business, and the tips for successful Tiger poontang-wrangling (among other things) could net her upwards of 50k in tips. Rachel knows not to mess around with somebody like Tiger; that whole "I didn't bang Tiger!" charade she pulled with anybody who asked after the National Enquirer tailed her to Melbourne may have been somewhat true (meaning: she's not his main chick), but Tiger's probably not concerned with whatever she has to say about their true-or-false copulation activities — he's more concerned that she knows how Tiger's been feeding off a menu of 20-and-30-something bubbleheads for years provided to him by Uchitel via her concierge service. No, it's not exactly prostitution — but these girls are flown in from LA to Vegas for a weekend of all-expenses and free drinks and admission into this world of über-rich sleaziness. If a famous athlete takes an interest, they certainly have the option to do whatever it is they want (no pressure!). So Rachel? She basically got caught in Melbourne on one of her many girl-corralling expeditions for one of her most important clients, which is a crucial part of her job.

 

"She knows everybody and everybody knows her," Serge says. "The clubs pay her big money for the clients that she brings in. She's not a ###### floozy or nothing. She's a real event planner. She's not just some girl that lifts up the velvet rope and sucks guy's dicks. She's the kind of girl that when you talk to her, you know, she's all business. She's beautiful, she's smart and her agenda is to land big clients — not big boyfriends." And if Uchitel were to start dishing, then plenty of other Sportsmen of the Year — not to mention certain members of the media who cover them — would suffer a similar fate as Tiger. There are many, many, many doors that many, many, many people would prefer stay tightly closed for now.

 

So think of Rachel not as a spurned mistress but more as a faithful confidante in Woods' elite inner circle. She knows where all the coochie is buried (even more than we know at this time), and if there has been any kind of financial transaction made for her silence, it was done with that in mind. Another equally viable alternative is that Rachel had the good sense to know she'll have quite a career for herself in this "legit" business once all this Tiger mess has passed. She knows how to honor the omerta of all VIP hosts that Tiger paid big money for her to observe.

 

Same thing Kalika, whom Serge describes as a "goody-two-shoes" of the Vegas nightlife scene, someone who's so meticulous about her work that she'd never entertain the notion of sleeping with Tiger simply because it would be very bad for business. "###### Tiger would be really terrible for her reputation as a marketing and event planner for these places. There's big money in that. She's legit, dude!" (Yes, Serge says, "Legit, dude!" just as you'd expect he would.)

 

The one girl who didn't surprise anyone in this mess is budding reality star Jaimee Grubbs. According to VIP Concierge # 2 (let's call him, I don't know, "Jorge"), she was wrangled for a weekend, possibly by some folks at The Bank (where Kalika just so happened to work), but she was always such an attention ###### that a kajillion-word Us Weekly article buttressed with saved text messages and voicemails fit her profile to a capital extra "E." "Everyone on the scene knew who Jaimee was in Vegas the minute she stepped off the plane," Jorge says. "She dated a guy at The Bank for a long time." She had big plans, big dreams, she was gonna be a star ... but she fell in love with Tiger while watching Angels & Demons. That'll help a career, won't it? Dum-dum.

 

Jaimee (and the other little yapping Tiger girls) annoyed the crap out one of Tiger's mistresses — a person who actually considered herself a "full-time" of Tiger's thanks to years of faithful service to his virulent sexual appetite. Ladies and gentlemen, meet Veronica Siwik-Daniels aka Joslyn James, a double-D brunette whose specialties include being double-penetrated on camera in many NSFW films.

 

But Jorge, proud Facebook friend of Miss Siwik-Daniels, said that this status update she posted on Dec. 2 was meant for all the ladies running their mouth about her man, Eldrick.

 

"I find it comical when certain individuals have no life of their own and want to be ME...so terribly bad. LMAO!"

 

The emphasis on "ME," says Jorge, was Veronica's way of respecting her unique relationship with Tiger and not becoming part of the screeching hordes. She did not return a message left on her phone requesting comment. Good for her.

 

Jorge was less discreet, however, telling me that Joslyn used love to talk about "all the freaky ###### Tiger dug in bed," and that every time he'd come to town he'd pay for a visit. You know, with cash.

 

But here's what we've learned throughout this Tiger mess, which, in many ways, may change how some of these athletes are covered. Athletes have utilized the VIP service to engage in their affairs (and meet possible mistresses) for the sake of (supposed) privacy, philandering without the hassle of having to do any work themselves to land these women. It's a dirty business all around. But what to do now, since Tiger has gone and messed it up for a bunch of people who were pretty safe from prying eyes and camera lenses whenever they stepped out on their wives and girlfriends during Vegas weekends? CHAOS REIGNS ...

 

Welcome to the new world, mainstream media, where the blanks are about to be filled-in. The truth will set you free.

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Ladies and gentlemen, meet Veronica Siwik-Daniels aka Joslyn James, a double-D brunette whose specialties include being double-penetrated on camera in many NSFW films.

 

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" Event Planners " , nice, I like the new name for it ! :wub:

Pimpin' ain't easy :shocking:

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People used to watch Woods because he was some larger-than-life, perfect athlete.

No they didn't. People watched Tiger because he was the best golfer on the planet. Just like they watched Jordan because he was the best basketball player on the planet. Ect. They don't turn on to the Masters because they like how cute Tigers family is. You're a moron.

 

The hyperbole and embellishment can stop now. It's been two weeks.

 

You know whats funny and sad? Two years from now when somebody like a NewbieJr brings up Tiger Woods he will say. "Do you remember when his wife beat the fock out of him and he wrecked his ride? Then a week later his wife tried to commite suicide and had to go to the hospital?" That stuff was crazy man!"

 

Thats what you guys will say. Instead of what really happened (which is emabarassing as it is) you guys will perpetuate the ebmellished half-truths. Why? Because you are women and enjoy it.

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John Daly is slimmed down and fired up for Hollywood

By Jay Busbee

 

As one golf star falls, another rises.

 

For the past two decades, the name "John Daly" has been synonymous in golf circles with the kind of lifestyle better suited to country music than the soft piano tones you hear on every golf telecast. He could grip it and rip it better than anybody on Tour, and played his way into two majors, but off the course his life was one long speed down a dark highway with the lights off.

 

Daly hit rock bottom around this time last year. He was found passed out outside a North Carolina Hooters, and later smashed a fan's camera while playing in Australia. The PGA Tour suspended him for six months, and it looked like the long, hard road of golf's most famous party animal was about to end in an ugly fashion.

 

But then Daly did something nobody would ever have expected -- and considering what he'd done in the past, that's saying something:

 

He cleaned up. And now he might be going Hollywood. :wub:

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Dude you are delusional.

You really think people tuned into a golf tournament on TV not because Tiger was the best golfer in the world. Not because it was fun to watch as all the other golfers tried to compete with him. Not to see if the other guys would step up or wilt when facing the best in the game. Not to see the great shots.

 

You think all those people tuned in to watch golf when Tiger was playing because he had the so called "Percect life (i.e. family)"

 

Seriously? You tuned in to watch Tiger on TV because you admired his life outside of golf? Not sure what to say. :wub:

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No they didn't. People watched Tiger because he was the best golfer on the planet. Just like they watched Jordan because he was the best basketball player on the planet. Ect. They don't turn on to the Masters because they like how cute Tigers family is. You're a moron.

 

Tiger woods is bigger than golf. the only time I watch golf is when I tune in on a Sunday afternoon to see if Tiger is in contention for a major. If he isn't, I tune out. When Tiger was injured, I didn't watch any golf. Its not just that he is the best golfer in the world today. There is always a best golfer in the world. Tiger woods is a larger than life legendary golfer. I hear that Arnold Palmer was something like that in the 1950's and 60's. I think Nicklaus was admired as a great golfer but did not elevate the popularity of the game with his talent and charisma the way Palmer and Woods do/did.

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You really think people tuned into a golf tournament on TV not because Tiger was the best golfer in the world. Not because it was fun to watch as all the other golfers tried to compete with him. Not to see if the other guys would step up or wilt when facing the best in the game. Not to see the great shots.

 

You think all those people tuned in to watch golf when Tiger was playing because he had the so called "Percect life (i.e. family)"

 

Seriously? You tuned in to watch Tiger on TV because you admired his life outside of golf? Not sure what to say. :unsure:

 

pow!!!

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Tiger woods is bigger than golf. the only time I watch golf is when I tune in on a Sunday afternoon to see if Tiger is in contention for a major. If he isn't, I tune out. When Tiger was injured, I didn't watch any golf. Its not just that he is the best golfer in the world today. There is always a best golfer in the world. Tiger woods is a larger than life legendary golfer. I hear that Arnold Palmer was something like that in the 1950's and 60's. I think Nicklaus was admired as a great golfer but did not elevate the popularity of the game with his talent and charisma the way Palmer and Woods do/did.

Exactly. He was the best golfer we had seen since Jack. That's why you tuned in. It was all about how great he was at the game. You didn't tune in beause you admired his marraige or his kids or anything else.

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You really think people tuned into golf tournament on TV not because he was the best golfer in the world. Not because it was fun to watch as all the other golfers tried to compete with him. Not to see if the other guys would step up or wilt when facing the best in the game.

 

You think all those people tuned in to watch golf when Tiger was playing because he had the so called "Percect life (i.e. family)"

 

Seriously? You tuned into to watch Tiger on TV because you admired his life outside of golf? Not sure what to say. :unsure:

 

The black community started tuning in because their leaders pointed to him as the perfect role model for the black community. Good relationship with his father and mother, happily married with a family, no drugs, no partying with hos in vegas, no getting in fights at clubs, he was the model citizen and the best at the game he plays. Community leaders never spoke of Jordan as a great role model because there were always rumors about his gambling and womenizing.

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Exactly. He was the best golfer we had seen since Jack. That's why you tuned in. It was all about how great he was at the game. You didn't tune in beause you admired his marraige or his kids or anything else.

 

While KSB is right in the small picture, Med is right in the big picture..

 

Tiger was on the Michael Jordan level. Mike Tyson was similar at one point in time. People that didn't care about hoops or boxing would tune in to watch those guys.

 

The point being that Tiger drew in non-golf fans. My wife would sit down and watch a major with me if Tiger was in contention. My mom would watch. I have coworkers that could care less about golf, but they'd watch Tiger. He was bigger than the sport.

 

It wasn't all about dominance. Yeah, maybe most golf fans and men cared more about how he killed guys on the course. But woman and non golf fans were watching because he was a major celebrity that they somewhat felt they knew, thus they were vested a little bit. To bring up another famous thread here, these people weren't tuning in to watch Federer even though he is comparably as dominant. Why? because they didn't feel any connection to him.

 

He'll still be the best golfer alive and golf fans will still tune in. But will he continue to be bigger than golf? Will my wife want to watch him now?

 

I have no doubt the first tournament he plays next season will be amongst the highest rated ever...But after that dies down, will he still get the ratings he gets now amongst the non golf fans? I kind of doubt it.

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Look, Tiger focked up big time. He cheated on his wife and did in fact tarnish his so called "perfect" image.

 

But that's it. He's no monster. He's no OJ. His wife didn't try to commit suicide. He doesn't have a side porn job. He didn't do something that would tarnish his athletic ability (i.e. MLB players and steroids).

 

He cheated on his wife and it's emabarrasing. But damn people that is it. All the rest is just the snowball rolling down the hill. The fire was alive but you mofo's and the media are throwing gas on it to keep it going when it should have burned out a week ago.

 

Just look at the story from yesterday. A 60 year old woman went to the hospital for a day for stomach pains and before the facts came out everybody immediatley was saying all kinds of crazy stories. Lets flame the fire at all costs!@#!

 

It's okay America. Tiger cheated on his wife and isn't perfect. Who knows what happens to him personally, but I really don't care all that much. And if you really do, then that says more about you than it does anything else.

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Exactly. He was the best golfer we had seen since Jack. That's why you tuned in. It was all about how great he was at the game. You didn't tune in beause you admired his marraige or his kids or anything else.

 

Well I would call him a larger than life golfer. Which is waht newbie said. He is a much bigger than even nicklaus. I will agree it is mostly about his golf talent. It is with most athletes. If you don't have charisma then you are not going to rise to the larger than life stature. Jordan had charisma off the court (maybe artificially manufactured) but other great players, ie kareem Abdul Jabbar, had great talent but no charisma and they never rose to the popularity heights of a Jordan or Magic.

 

 

I also agree that his viewership will never be higher with this scandal. But some sponsers may still end up being leery of him. Higher viewership does not always make up for negative publicity.

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Exactly. He was the best golfer we had seen since Jack. That's why you tuned in. It was all about how great he was at the game. You didn't tune in beause you admired his marraige or his kids or anything else.

Well now they're going to be tuning in for another reason. To see whether the walking freakshow swears at a gallery member who clears his throat at the wrong time or glances at an attractive chick standing near the fairway.

 

His philandering and total disregard for his wife and kids has turned him into another tabloid laughing stock.

 

The best part of all of this is how he's going to have to become remorseful, contrite, and, yes, human if he stands any chance of getting teh public back on his side. One this about Americans is, they may love to see the more-fortunate superstars get knocked off their perch, but they also love a comeback story. He will win the fans back (not knob-gobblers like you- he never lost you), but he can't do it by walking around with three bodyguards and refusing post-tournament autographs while the other guys stand around for twenty minutes signing for anyone who asks. He is no longer above the rest of the PGA guys. In fact, he has a heluva ways to go before he's even back on their level, and I don't mean from a golf standpoint.

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He is no longer above the rest of the PGA guys. In fact, he has a heluva ways to go before he's even back on their level, and I don't mean from a golf standpoint.

 

You heard it here first! PGA players are all saints off the course.

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It's okay America. Tiger cheated on his wife and isn't perfect. Who knows what happens to him personally, but I really don't care all that much. And if you really do, then that says more about you than it does anything else.

 

So whether not he is a dooshbag or not does not effect the way you watch him? Do you root for him or against him? Or are you a robot who just watches the game to see good shots? I am one who rooted for Tiger because I wanted to see greatness and he was not a bad guy. But if he is a dooshbag, then I will not root for him. So the fact that he is a dooshbag or not does matter to me. I'm human.

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Community leaders never spoke of Jordan as a great role model

 

mebe you should google michael jordan + role model and sift through the millions of hits before you post this ridiculousness.

 

 

Results 1 - 10 of about 3,270,000 for michael jordan role model.

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You heard it here first! PGA players are all saints off the course.

I haven't heard of too many others who have cheated on their wife more than a dozen times. I could see once. Or even twice. But to be out banging ###### after ###### while your wife is pregnant, says a helluva lot about his character. :unsure:

 

If anyone deserves a fall from grace, it's this pompous scumbag.

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I am one who rooted for Tiger because I wanted to see greatness

This is your answer.

 

We all have faults homie. If Tiger would have raped some poor girl,or done something horrific then I would stop rooting for the guy. But I don't stop watching him play golf because he swears after a shot or because he cheated on his wife. Will I look at him slightly differently? Of course that's human nature. Of course I don't act like nothing changed. I am not a robot; but I not an drama filled womanesque senseittive person either. I watch because he is focking awesome at his craft and it's fun sporting drama. What he did is no deal breaker. I'm not perfect either.

 

It's not like Tiger is the Pope or a Politician where character is a major player when following a person. He's a focking golfer for petes sake.

 

Let's all try to have some perspective here.

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You really think people tuned into a golf tournament on TV not because Tiger was the best golfer in the world. Not because it was fun to watch as all the other golfers tried to compete with him. Not to see if the other guys would step up or wilt when facing the best in the game. Not to see the great shots.

 

You think all those people tuned in to watch golf when Tiger was playing because he had the so called "Percect life (i.e. family)"

Seriously? You tuned in to watch Tiger on TV because you admired his life outside of golf? Not sure what to say. :unsure:

On this point you may be somewhat correct. But it's not the spectators that is the problem it is his sponsors and corporate America that will put the final nail in Tigers coffin.

 

Stick a fork in him, he's done :music_guitarred:

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I haven't heard of too many others who have cheated on their wife more than a dozen times. I could see once. Or even twice. But to be out banging ###### after ###### while your wife is pregnant, says a helluva lot about his character. :music_guitarred:

 

If anyone deserves a fall from grace, it's this pompous scumbag.

 

because the media doesn't give a poo about the rest of them. Do you think TMZ is following Ian Woosnam around? Very few

golfers get any scrutiny whatsoever. Nobody thought that about Greg Norman until his divorce trial made news and alluva sudden

we find out about his mistress. I'm sure PGA players who travel from town to town all year are all in bed by 8pm sharp while

their families are back at home.

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This is your answer.

 

We all have faults homie. If Tiger would have raped some poor girl,or done something horrific then I would stop rooting for the guy. But I don't stop watching him play golf because he swears after a shot or because he cheated on his wife. Will I look at him slightly differently? Of course that's human nature. Of course I don't act like nothing changed. I am not a robot; but I not an drama filled womanesque senseittive person either. I watch because he is focking awesome at his craft and it's fun sporting drama. What he did is no deal breaker. I'm not perfect either.

 

It's not like Tiger is the Pope or a Politician where character is a major player when following a person. He's a focking golfer for petes sake.

 

Let's all try to have some perspective here.

 

Seems like you are being a bit hypocritical after what you said about Tom Brady.

 

And it looks like you also admit that their are limits (ie rapist) to when you would root for a guy or not. I and some of the others just have lower limits than you. No reason for you get all high and mighty. we just disagree on the point when we start not liking a guy enough to root for him.

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because the media doesn't give a poo about the rest of them. Do you think TMZ is following Ian Woosnam around? Very few

golfers get any scrutiny whatsoever. Nobody thought that about Greg Norman until his divorce trial made news and alluva sudden

we find out about his mistress. I'm sure PGA players who travel from town to town all year are all in bed by 8pm sharp while

their families are back at home.

I agree with all of that, but it's not relevant.

 

Tiger makes a lot of money because people care what kind of car he drives and what kind of watch he wears. No one cares what kind of watch Ian Woosman wears, therefore, he can't make millions off it.

 

You can't have it both ways, slim. :music_guitarred:

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and this disputes your claim of this how?: "Community leaders never spoke of Jordan as a great role model"

Which one is it? you can't say never spoke of him as role model, then say ohhhh look only a harf million role model hits on google.

admit wrongness or keep up a ridiculous assertion. which way will bert go?

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Wow. Could KSB and GH be any bigger Tiger sycophants? This is embarrassing.

I guess the number of broads he cheated on his wife and children with has to be over 100 until they'll admit he's a dirtbag. :music_guitarred: Says a lot about them.

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I guess the number of broads he cheated on his wife and children with has to be over 100 until they'll admit he's a dirtbag. :music_guitarred: Says a lot about them.

I really just don't get it. Trying to defend the indefensible. It's like their trying argue that he's still a great golfer, so this is just a little bump in the road for him. That may even be true (it's debatable the long term effects) and I don't really see anyone arguing against that. It's just crazy that they fail to admit what a fall from grace this is...probably the biggest ever in the sports world.

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I respect Tiger more than ever...especially after hearing about his big dong. :music_guitarred:

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I agree with all of that, but it's not relevant.

 

Tiger makes a lot of money because people care what kind of car he drives and what kind of watch he wears. No one cares what kind of watch Ian Woosman wears, therefore, he can't make millions off it.

 

You can't have it both ways, slim. :music_guitarred:

 

is Ian even still alive? That's a shame that Ian never had any endorsements for any money as you assert. poor guy

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is Ian even still alive?

No clue. You used his name so I used the same one.

 

The point remains the same. Woods made millions upon millions of dollars because people cared about him..What driver he used, what sportsdrink he drank, what car he drove. He can't use the defense that it's his business and no one should care now.

 

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

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I and some of the others just have lower limits than you. We just disagree on the point when we start not liking a guy enough to root for him.

You see, for me, if an athlete does something off the field that a whole lot of people do as well this doesn't bother me. Saying a curse word or even cheating on your wife. While not the most noble of things (and Tiger is a dirtbag to his wife), it is common place and not the end of the world. Like the mantra Those that live in glass houses should not throw stones if you will. That's why I will still watch and root for the guy.

 

I can call Tom Brady a dirtbag but I still watch him on Sundays. It doesn't affect me rooting for or against or watching the guy one little bit.

 

If an athlete does something wholly illegal and monsterous like rape or abuse then that's where I draw the line. That's where he seperates himself from the average Joe.

 

I don't care all that much as I only really cared about Tiger the golfer to begin with. I sorta understand if you are 12 years old and Tiger was your Idol. Or if you are woman and care about Tiger "the family man". I didn't think you and Newbie were 12 years old or woman though.

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I guess the number of broads he cheated on his wife and children with has to be over 100 until they'll admit he's a dirtbag. :music_guitarred: Says a lot about them.

 

Aren't you the guy who sings the praises of Aroid and Barroid?

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