Anyone else watching Obama getting OWNT at the Healthcare Summit?

[tikigods 77]

stick with legos kid

 

fat focks like you are the reason they're having this health care summit. go buy some alli.

[GutterBoy 2,900]

I wanna grab Henry Waxman by the ears and fock his mouth, then drop a map of Hawaii on his shiny head.

[drobeski 3,061]

I wanna grab Henry Waxman by the ears and fock his mouth, then drop a map of Hawaii on his shiny head.

sounds pretty gay

[NewbieJr 541]

I just popped on Fox News channel

 

No kidding. That's shocking.

[jerryskids 7,173]

I can't wait to hear Olbermann's take on this summit. I think his head might explode. I can't really explain why I think that; just wishful thinking I guess.

[drobeski 3,061]

I can't wait to hear Olbermann's take on this summit. I think his head might explode. I can't really explain why I think that; just wishful thinking I guess.

old someone elses news

[jerryskids 7,173]

old someone elses news

 

I should have read the thread; that's funny that ksb had the same exact thought. Then again, I don't really listen to anyone here, I just type to read my own posts.

[SUXBNME 1,622]

No kidding. That's shocking.

I tried to watch it on MSNBC earlier today and they weren't letting us hear what the people were saying.

They had some dumb ###### on a split screen doing all the talking about what was being said.

 

Fox had it live and uninterrupted.

 

Which is better?

[Strike 6,030]

I tried to watch it on MSNBC earlier today and they weren't letting us hear what the people were saying.

They had some dumb ###### on a split screen doing all the talking about what was being said.

 

Fox had it live and uninterrupted.

 

Which is better?

 

Just watch it here fockstick:

 

http://sunlightfoundation.com/live/

[Johnny B Good 0]

I tried to watch it on MSNBC earlier today and they weren't letting us hear what the people were saying.

They had some dumb ###### on a split screen doing all the talking about what was being said.

 

Fox had it live and uninterrupted.

 

Which is better?

 

 

Chris Wallace - FOXNews has been yapping for the last half hour.

[SUXBNME 1,622]

Just watch it here fockstick:

 

http://sunlightfoundation.com/live/

I was done watching it an hour ago.

[NewbieJr 541]

I tried to watch it on MSNBC earlier today and they weren't letting us hear what the people were saying.

They had some dumb ###### on a split screen doing all the talking about what was being said.

 

Fox had it live and uninterrupted.

 

Which is better?

For you, I'm sure you'd enjoy Fox's coverage MUCH MUCH beter.

[Strike 6,030]

I was done watching it an hour ago.

 

Oh, ok. Well it's still on but I wouldn't expect you to give up your kat focking hour just to be informed about what's going on in your country.

[SUXBNME 1,622]

Chris Wallace - FOXNews has been yapping for the last half hour.

I turned on the TV this morning, (FOX) saw that it was on and started watching it.

I changed the channel to MSNBC to see if they were carrying it live and got the dumb ###### on a split screen.

 

Should I have continued to watch it on MSNBC without the ability to hear what they were saying, or flipped it back to Fox?

 

[SUXBNME 1,622]

For you, I'm sure you'd enjoy Fox's coverage MUCH MUCH beter.

It WAS much better.

Next time a Toto song is on the radio, turn your hair dryer up to the highest setting and point it at your ear.

[NewbieJr 541]

It WAS much better.

See? I know you like the back of my hand. Know just what kind of commentary you're looking for.

[Johnny B Good 0]

I turned on the TV this morning, (FOX) saw that it was on and started watching it.

I changed the channel to MSNBC to see if they were carrying it live and got the dumb ###### on a split screen.

 

Should I have continued to watch it on MSNBC without the ability to hear what they were saying, or flipped it back to Fox?

 

 

I flipped to CNN, FOX and MSNBC, all 3 had talking heads. I guess it's a matter of timing. It was frustrating.

[SUXBNME 1,622]

I flipped to CNN, FOX and MSNBC, all 3 had talking heads. I guess it's a matter of timing. It was frustrating.

I started watching just before McCain was speaking.

[Johnny B Good 0]

Obama absolutely ###### slapped the right in his closing statement. John Boner looked like he was about to cry.

[Saint Elistan 106]

Morning Session Transcript

 

Historic Use of Reconciliation for Medical Related Bills

1982 — TEFRA: The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act first opened Medicare to HMOs

 

1986 — COBRA: The Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act allowed people who were laid off to keep their health coverage, and stopped hospitals from dumping ER patients unable to pay for their care

 

1987 — OBRA '87: Added nursing home protection rules to Medicare and Medicaid, created no-fault vaccine injury compensation program

 

1989 — OBRA '89: Overhauled doctor payment system for Medicare, created new federal agency on research and quality of care

 

1990 — OBRA '90: Added cancer screenings to Medicare, required providers to notify patients about advance directives and living wills, expanded Medicaid to all kids living below poverty level, required drug companies to provide discounts to Medicaid

 

1993 — OBRA '93: created federal vaccine funding for all children

 

1996 — Welfare Reform: Separated Medicaid from welfare

 

1997 — BBA: The Balanced Budget Act created the state-federal childrens' health program called CHIP

 

2005 — DRA: The Deficit Reduction Act reduced Medicaid spending, allowed parents of disabled children to buy into Medicaid

[GettnHuge 2]

Harkin's letter from random Iowa man pleading for health care help...brother of one of his staff.

[SUXBNME 1,622]

Harkin's letter from random Iowa man pleading for health care help...brother of one of his staff.

Not a big suprise

[Strike 6,030]

Harkin's letter from random Iowa man pleading for health care help...brother of one of his staff.

 

Yeah, kind of reminds me of when Obama talked about the lady from St. Louis who died and didn't have health insurance when it turned out she DID have health insurance.

[Me_2006 14]

That seriously had to be the most entertaining thing involving political debate that I've ever seen.

 

 

Question: Knowing this was going to be aired, and was the big debate about their top priority, why the hell wouldn't the Democrats at least google some shiit to talk about? It'd be like if Nick Saban had left his playbook at home for the BCS title game. I mean, lie or make stuff up or something at least.

 

 

 

also, was I the only one waiting on Casey Kasem to show up to read all those motherfucking letters?

 

 

Jane writes:

 

Dear Casey,

 

I have lupus. It sucks. Please give me free medicine. I'm writing this with my feet. And please play that old classic, "Can't buy me Love."

 

 

Crippled,

Jane

[jerryskids 7,173]

That seriously had to be the most entertaining thing involving political debate that I've ever seen.

Question: Knowing this was going to be aired, and was the big debate about their top priority, why the hell wouldn't the Democrats at least google some shiit to talk about? It'd be like if Nick Saban had left his playbook at home for the BCS title game. I mean, lie or make stuff up or something at least.

It was embarrassing to anyone with two neurons to rub together. Thankfully for the dems, that wasn't the demographic they were playing to. Unfortunately, it might work.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I have been converted to a supporter of Obamacare. Once I heard the story of the woman who had to yank the teef out of her dead sister I couldn't take anymore. I can't tell ya how many times I have heard of this happening.....it's a fukking epidemic.

 

We need universal teef and FAST!

[remote controller 143]

Thanks Joseph!

 

http://whitehouse.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/0...test=latestnews

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Biden makes Dan Quayle look like Copernicus.

 

[Vikings4ever 570]

[jets24 6]

Somebody has to help cover for the loss of Kennedy and murtha. The entire Liquor Industry was in dire straits.

 

Looks like they are hoping for Money for Nothing.

[jets24 6]

 

Wow. That was a Bushism if I have ever seen it.

[remote controller 143]

Points made by Ryan that Obama couldn't or wouldn't rebut:

 

• "This bill does not control costs (or) reduce deficits. Instead, (it) adds a new health care entitlement when we have no idea how to pay for the entitlements we already have."

 

• "The bill has 10 years of tax increases, about half a trillion dollars, with 10 years of Medicare cuts, about half a trillion dollars, to pay for six years of spending. The true 10-year cost (is) $2.3 trillion."

 

• "The bill takes $52 billion in higher Social Security tax revenues and counts them as offsets. But that's really reserved for Social Security. So either we're double-counting them or we don't intend on paying those Social Security benefits."

 

• "The bill takes $72 billion from the CLASS Act (long-term care insurance) benefit premiums and claims them as offsets."

 

• "The bill treats Medicare like a piggy bank, (raiding) half a trillion dollars not to shore up Medicare solvency, but to spend on this new government program."

 

• "The chief actuary of Medicare (says) as much as 20% of Medicare providers will either go out of business or have to stop seeing Medicare beneficiaries."

 

• "Millions of seniors who have chosen Medicare Advantage (Medicare through a private insurer) will lose the coverage that they now enjoy."

 

• "When you strip out the double-counting and ... gimmicks, the full 10-year cost of the bill has a $460 billion deficit. The second 10-year cost of this bill has a $1.4 trillion deficit."

 

• "The 'doc fix' (restoring cuts in Medicare reimbursements) costs $371 billion ... a price tag (that) made the score look bad. (So) that provision was taken out, and (put) in stand-alone legislation. But ignoring these costs does not remove them from the backs of taxpayers. Hiding spending does not reduce spending."

 

• "Are we bending the cost curve down or are we bending the cost curve up? If you look at your own chief actuary at Medicare, we're bending it up. He's claiming that we're going up $222 billion, adding more to the unsustainable fiscal situation we have."

 

 

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/A....aspx?id=522446

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Points made by Ryan that Obama couldn't or wouldn't rebut:

 

• "This bill does not control costs (or) reduce deficits. Instead, (it) adds a new health care entitlement when we have no idea how to pay for the entitlements we already have."

 

• "The bill has 10 years of tax increases, about half a trillion dollars, with 10 years of Medicare cuts, about half a trillion dollars, to pay for six years of spending. The true 10-year cost (is) $2.3 trillion."

 

• "The bill takes $52 billion in higher Social Security tax revenues and counts them as offsets. But that's really reserved for Social Security. So either we're double-counting them or we don't intend on paying those Social Security benefits."

 

• "The bill takes $72 billion from the CLASS Act (long-term care insurance) benefit premiums and claims them as offsets."

 

• "The bill treats Medicare like a piggy bank, (raiding) half a trillion dollars not to shore up Medicare solvency, but to spend on this new government program."

 

• "The chief actuary of Medicare (says) as much as 20% of Medicare providers will either go out of business or have to stop seeing Medicare beneficiaries."

 

• "Millions of seniors who have chosen Medicare Advantage (Medicare through a private insurer) will lose the coverage that they now enjoy."

 

• "When you strip out the double-counting and ... gimmicks, the full 10-year cost of the bill has a $460 billion deficit. The second 10-year cost of this bill has a $1.4 trillion deficit."

 

• "The 'doc fix' (restoring cuts in Medicare reimbursements) costs $371 billion ... a price tag (that) made the score look bad. (So) that provision was taken out, and (put) in stand-alone legislation. But ignoring these costs does not remove them from the backs of taxpayers. Hiding spending does not reduce spending."

 

• "Are we bending the cost curve down or are we bending the cost curve up? If you look at your own chief actuary at Medicare, we're bending it up. He's claiming that we're going up $222 billion, adding more to the unsustainable fiscal situation we have."

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/A....aspx?id=522446

 

 

Dayum! That's a major beatdown of Obamacare right there.

[jerryskids 7,173]

Dayum! That's a major beatdown of Obamacare right there.

I think this is where that senator from New York mentions a woman taking her dead sister's dentures, and how women's illnesses used to not be researched, and hey we've got a lot in agreement here, kumbaya.

 

I mean seriously, how can anyone with a straight face say that 10 years of taxes for 6 years of service is not a cost? I couldn't imagine being in the CBO, getting this edict. Mkay... I can do that math, not that it means a focking thing.

[gocolts 300]

WOW!!

[gocolts 300]

Points made by Ryan that Obama couldn't or wouldn't rebut:

 

• "This bill does not control costs (or) reduce deficits. Instead, (it) adds a new health care entitlement when we have no idea how to pay for the entitlements we already have."

 

• "The bill has 10 years of tax increases, about half a trillion dollars, with 10 years of Medicare cuts, about half a trillion dollars, to pay for six years of spending. The true 10-year cost (is) $2.3 trillion."

 

• "The bill takes $52 billion in higher Social Security tax revenues and counts them as offsets. But that's really reserved for Social Security. So either we're double-counting them or we don't intend on paying those Social Security benefits."

 

• "The bill takes $72 billion from the CLASS Act (long-term care insurance) benefit premiums and claims them as offsets."

 

• "The bill treats Medicare like a piggy bank, (raiding) half a trillion dollars not to shore up Medicare solvency, but to spend on this new government program."

 

• "The chief actuary of Medicare (says) as much as 20% of Medicare providers will either go out of business or have to stop seeing Medicare beneficiaries."

 

• "Millions of seniors who have chosen Medicare Advantage (Medicare through a private insurer) will lose the coverage that they now enjoy."

 

• "When you strip out the double-counting and ... gimmicks, the full 10-year cost of the bill has a $460 billion deficit. The second 10-year cost of this bill has a $1.4 trillion deficit."

 

• "The 'doc fix' (restoring cuts in Medicare reimbursements) costs $371 billion ... a price tag (that) made the score look bad. (So) that provision was taken out, and (put) in stand-alone legislation. But ignoring these costs does not remove them from the backs of taxpayers. Hiding spending does not reduce spending."

 

• "Are we bending the cost curve down or are we bending the cost curve up? If you look at your own chief actuary at Medicare, we're bending it up. He's claiming that we're going up $222 billion, adding more to the unsustainable fiscal situation we have."

http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/A....aspx?id=522446

OUCH!!!

[remote controller 143]

In these next 4 to 6 weeks that Obama and the Dems need to even try to bring this thing to a vote, they need to press Obama for answers to these points.

 

• "This bill does not control costs (or) reduce deficits. Instead, (it) adds a new health care entitlement when we have no idea how to pay for the entitlements we already have."

 

• "The bill has 10 years of tax increases, about half a trillion dollars, with 10 years of Medicare cuts, about half a trillion dollars, to pay for six years of spending. The true 10-year cost (is) $2.3 trillion."

 

• "The bill takes $52 billion in higher Social Security tax revenues and counts them as offsets. But that's really reserved for Social Security. So either we're double-counting them or we don't intend on paying those Social Security benefits."

 

• "The bill takes $72 billion from the CLASS Act (long-term care insurance) benefit premiums and claims them as offsets."

 

• "The bill treats Medicare like a piggy bank, (raiding) half a trillion dollars not to shore up Medicare solvency, but to spend on this new government program."

 

• "The chief actuary of Medicare (says) as much as 20% of Medicare providers will either go out of business or have to stop seeing Medicare beneficiaries."

 

• "Millions of seniors who have chosen Medicare Advantage (Medicare through a private insurer) will lose the coverage that they now enjoy."

 

• "When you strip out the double-counting and ... gimmicks, the full 10-year cost of the bill has a $460 billion deficit. The second 10-year cost of this bill has a $1.4 trillion deficit."

 

• "The 'doc fix' (restoring cuts in Medicare reimbursements) costs $371 billion ... a price tag (that) made the score look bad. (So) that provision was taken out, and (put) in stand-alone legislation. But ignoring these costs does not remove them from the backs of taxpayers. Hiding spending does not reduce spending."

 

• "Are we bending the cost curve down or are we bending the cost curve up? If you look at your own chief actuary at Medicare, we're bending it up. He's claiming that we're going up $222 billion, adding more to the unsustainable fiscal situation we have."

 

 

Over and over and over and over again until he answers them.

[FlaHawker 24]

In these next 4 to 6 weeks that Obama and the Dems need to even try to bring this thing to a vote, they need to press Obama for answers to these points.

 

• "This bill does not control costs (or) reduce deficits. Instead, (it) adds a new health care entitlement when we have no idea how to pay for the entitlements we already have."

 

• "The bill has 10 years of tax increases, about half a trillion dollars, with 10 years of Medicare cuts, about half a trillion dollars, to pay for six years of spending. The true 10-year cost (is) $2.3 trillion."

 

• "The bill takes $52 billion in higher Social Security tax revenues and counts them as offsets. But that's really reserved for Social Security. So either we're double-counting them or we don't intend on paying those Social Security benefits."

 

• "The bill takes $72 billion from the CLASS Act (long-term care insurance) benefit premiums and claims them as offsets."

 

• "The bill treats Medicare like a piggy bank, (raiding) half a trillion dollars not to shore up Medicare solvency, but to spend on this new government program."

 

• "The chief actuary of Medicare (says) as much as 20% of Medicare providers will either go out of business or have to stop seeing Medicare beneficiaries."

 

• "Millions of seniors who have chosen Medicare Advantage (Medicare through a private insurer) will lose the coverage that they now enjoy."

 

• "When you strip out the double-counting and ... gimmicks, the full 10-year cost of the bill has a $460 billion deficit. The second 10-year cost of this bill has a $1.4 trillion deficit."

 

• "The 'doc fix' (restoring cuts in Medicare reimbursements) costs $371 billion ... a price tag (that) made the score look bad. (So) that provision was taken out, and (put) in stand-alone legislation. But ignoring these costs does not remove them from the backs of taxpayers. Hiding spending does not reduce spending."

 

• "Are we bending the cost curve down or are we bending the cost curve up? If you look at your own chief actuary at Medicare, we're bending it up. He's claiming that we're going up $222 billion, adding more to the unsustainable fiscal situation we have."

Over and over and over and over again until he answers them.

Game. set. match.