jaguilar2549 0 Posted June 22, 2010 I am not looking for help just wondering what everyone's favorite draft spot is and why? I am always a fan of mid range spots (5-7) for a 12 team league. I just hate waiting for a long time to make my picks. I will be in my first 20 team this year and hope I land somewhere between 8 and 13. I just think you get more value for your picks in the mid ranges. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevinv86 1 Posted June 22, 2010 I am hoping for top 5 pick this year. I want a top 5 rb and then getting good value on the way back. I think 6-8 are bad places to be this year.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soopacee 0 Posted June 22, 2010 i agree...i would love to pick like 5th or 6th this year.....but we draft based on last years record and standings......so i pick 9th (12 teamer redraft) and so far, i am not happy with 9th at all haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike MacGregor 20 Posted June 22, 2010 Top 4 this year as I'd like any of CJ, Rice, MJD, Peterson. In fact taking the 4th remaining of these guys - usually Rice - would be ideal. In general for serpentine drafts I like to be a little bit off from either end, say 2-3 picks away (3rd/4th or 9th/10th in a 12 team league). Then it is easier to predict what those end teams are going to do when it comes off the long turn so you can get the best value out of your pair of picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted June 22, 2010 5th, but that's mostly because I think Frank Gore will lead the league in rushing this year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zackattack 0 Posted June 22, 2010 I say that 1-4 may be the best spot this year. I have 10 and have been practice mocking out of that. Not bad but I would rather have one of the top 4 RB's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdon 28 Posted June 22, 2010 I hate to be lame but give me the 1 or 2 spot this year. That way I have cj or adp and then on the turn I get two more studs... I usually like picks 9-12 but this year I think the truly elite talent ends around pick 27... jdon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brtdud7 0 Posted June 22, 2010 i absolutely despise #1 pick. this season, i would be happy with #4 or #5... either end up with MJD, rice, or gore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaxie 0 Posted June 22, 2010 I love the #5 pick. I tend to do best there for some reason. Maybe it's just a comfort thing since I had the #5 for like 3 years in a row at one point. Last year I had #7 and only did well thanks to some killer pick-ups during the season. In terms of value I'd like 4-5 or 9-10 this year I think. 4-5 gets me one of the coveted top 5 RBs (personally I'd like Rice because I think the Ravens are going to be great) and 9-10 gives me the option to see how it's panning out and take one of the top WRs if I want. I think there's a lot more depth at RB this year than WR, so that could be a viable option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdon 28 Posted June 22, 2010 i absolutely despise #1 pick. this season, i would be happy with #4 or #5... either end up with MJD, rice, or gore. why? you get a lock at 1 and then two more of the top 25 players on your board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madd futher mucker 36 Posted June 22, 2010 I usually don't care what position I draft from, but in the no-trade FFPC, I was ELATED with the #5 pick. I have 5 guys ranked at truly 1st tier RBs in PPR(CJ, ADO, MJD, Rice and Gore, so I am assured of a 1st tier RB, and I draft ahead of the other guys who picked 1st tier RBs on the way back. It just doesn't get any better than that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c9h13no3 0 Posted June 23, 2010 I think the best spots this year are the 4-5 spots, with 6-12 not being terrible either. I also prefer to be towards the end of the round than picks 1-3. In the mocks I've done, I usually end up with crappy WR's in the 1-3 spot. By the time the snake comes back around in round 2, I've usually missed most of the good WR1's. The 4-5 spots are assured a top tier RB, and drafting Johnson, Rodgers, SJax, Moss, or Mendenhall doesn't bother me that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soopacee 0 Posted June 23, 2010 i absolutely despise #1 pick. this season, i would be happy with #4 or #5... either end up with MJD, rice, or gore. just take MJD, rice or gore @ #1 then....you have free reign for any player at #1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,735 Posted June 23, 2010 I tier my players and pinpoint dropoffs. find the really big dropoffs and you can figure out where you would rather pick. Lets say you think there is a big dropoff after the top 28 players (arbitrary). You most likely would enjoy a pick in the top 4 spots as it would allow you to select 3 of the top 28 players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted June 23, 2010 I like to pick a spot closest to the pole, that way i can see if the stripper is crying or not... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaguilar2549 0 Posted June 28, 2010 wow, I am actually surprised to see the majority preferring the mid-range picks. I really thought more would have sought the back to back picks of the first/second round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted June 28, 2010 wow, I am actually surprised to see the majority preferring the mid-range picks. I really thought more would have sought the back to back picks of the first/second round. I prefer the 8-12 slot myself, in a serpentine.... There was a time when serpentine was more rare than it is now, not sure why. In a straight draft, such as in keeper leagues etc, having a high or mid pick is more preferable.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 143 Posted June 28, 2010 I am liking 3, 4, and 5 this year. I want to avoid 7,8, and 9, then am okay with 10,11, and 12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcgangstas 41 Posted June 28, 2010 I like the 4th slot this year. You'll get either MJD or Ray Rice who will produce nicely for you. In a snake draft in Round 2, you are bound to get a stud WR like Roddy White, DeSean Jackson, Miles Austin or perhaps even Larry Fitzgerald in leagues where GMs are leery of the Leinart Factor. Round 3 nets you a steady (though unspectacular) RB like Ryan Grant, or Jamaal Charles for the high risk/high reward guys. Sidney Rice or Marques Colston and possibly Jackson will be there in Round3 as well. That's a good start IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Durtee 0 Posted June 29, 2010 Most years I would say 1-3, but this year I would prefer 5. I really like Gore this year and I can't imagine that very many people will take him in the top 4, so I will grab him at 5 and get myself a pair of stud WR's in rounds two and three. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#1LionFan 0 Posted June 29, 2010 Normally it really does not matter where I draft from in a 12-team re-draft league, but this year more than any other in recent memory it is best to be at the top of the draft...the best being 1-4. You get whoever "falls" to you out of the big 4 RBs then get two picks in a row in the 2nd and 3rd to add either two WRs or even an elite QB or even another RB depending on scoring/roster settings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Portis26 0 Posted June 29, 2010 I like top 3 or bottom 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cuse9 129 Posted June 29, 2010 Last pick of the draft...no question! If you have the last pick you can see patterns start to develop with all the picks between your picks. Rounds 3/4 and then 5/6 are crucial. Alot of times you can start the TE/Def runs. This allows you to snag the top TE or Def. Or if you miss the TE/Def run you can grab two TE's later with back to back picks hoping that one catches fire. You can do the same thing with handcuffing backs. I just think you have alot better options with your picks. You can make a solid pick and then reach with the next knowing that you covered yourself on your reach with the solid pick right before. If you are picking 5/6/7 there is more hoping that certain players fall to you that you "need". I have always had great success picking last. Alot of fantasy is getting lucky, but picking back to back picks allows you to create your own luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdon 28 Posted June 29, 2010 Last pick of the draft...no question! If you have the last pick you can see patterns start to develop with all the picks between your picks. Rounds 3/4 and then 5/6 are crucial. Alot of times you can start the TE/Def runs. This allows you to snag the top TE or Def. Or if you miss the TE/Def run you can grab two TE's later with back to back picks hoping that one catches fire. You can do the same thing with handcuffing backs. I just think you have alot better options with your picks. You can make a solid pick and then reach with the next knowing that you covered yourself on your reach with the solid pick right before. If you are picking 5/6/7 there is more hoping that certain players fall to you that you "need". I have always had great success picking last. Alot of fantasy is getting lucky, but picking back to back picks allows you to create your own luck. I think there is a real value in 11/12 usually as I can usually find 36 tier one players... however this year I just can't find more than 27 with 54, give or take, top end players... whoever said something earlier about finding the deepest dropoffs was most correct and some of you guys are focusing too much on the first round alone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njacinto 4 Posted June 29, 2010 In PPR leagues (like Antsports), stud wide receivers are much more valuable and often are picked in the first round... Current ADP's for PPR leagues have Andre Johnson going 5th and Larry Fitzgerald going 7th or 8th after Frank Gore. Therefore, guys like Miles Austin and Roddy White will be gone by the middle of the 2nd round. Thus, if you have a top 4 pick (CJ, MJD, AP, and Rice), you may NOT be able to get a stud WR and the best you could hope for is Greg Jennings, VJax, DJax, or Marcus Colston... Because of this, it really depends on your philosophy as a PPR drafter... a) if you like stud WR's, picks 9-12 are for you, b.) if you like stud RB's, then 1-4 is for you, or c) if you like balance then 5-8 is for you (you can draft a Frank Gore and still get a Miles Austin on the way back in the 2nd round. In PPR, it's much more unpredictable... that's why ADP lists are so critical for draft preparations when playing in these leagues... but I love it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
truebigdog 0 Posted June 30, 2010 In a non-ppr 1-4 is where I would want to be, in a ppr, I would prefer 9-12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel Boy 0 Posted June 30, 2010 I am hoping for top 5 pick this year. I want a top 5 rb and then getting good value on the way back. I think 6-8 are bad places to be this year.. I don't. I think those picks are actually pretty good spots this year. With so much top heavy players at the RB/WR positions one won't be too far behind if a string of players are taken at a certain position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted July 2, 2010 In most years i do not want anywhere near the top. But this year i really want a top 3 so i can get AP, MJD, or CJ. Not to sold on CJ though this year but id take him thats for sure. I usually like the bottom 10-12 so i can either go RB/RB or WR/RB or RB/WR. But from my early Mockings i found a nice stock pile of able RBs you can get in the middle rounds. So i want one of the 4-5 work horses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdm_1971 0 Posted July 3, 2010 i like # 3 this season ...... was worried but as i do mocks i am liking it.... i grab rice or mjd and in round 2 i get either sidney rice or desean jackson .... i have noticed no matter where you pick strategy is vital this year to stick with how you want to draft.... imo this season works best as rb, wr, wr , rb, qb, te .... then fill in roster with remaining picks i am in a 12 team ppr league starting 1 qb, 2 rbs, 2wrs , te , flex, k, def.... wrs go quick in the mocks i have done so i really think you have to have 2 wrs in the 1st 4 picks....good luck all! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,419 Posted July 3, 2010 My league this year will be 12 rounds. If I don't end up with one of the Top 4 picks (AP, CJ, MJD or Rice) then I'd like a pick in the 9-12 range, make out with a top QB and a RB in the first two rounds. There's not a lot of high-end talent at the wideout spot, so if you don't get Andre Johnson I really don't see any receivers I'd be comfortable spending a first round pick on and the talent at RB 5-10 is IMO pretty comparable. I'd be just as happy with Greene or Mendenhall in the late first as Gore or SJax in the mid-1st. But really, it doesn't matter where you pick. The draft is all about minimizing risk in the early rounds and taking high-ceiling flyers in the later rounds, plus free agency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longlurker 0 Posted July 3, 2010 My main league is a 12 team, auction style, redraft. There is a lot of bidding thru the first 6-8 rounds so draft position really isn't that important to me. I have noticed that many owners like to be near the tail end of the of the order and even trade down to get those positions. I usually end up in the top 5 spots, open the bidding on a player I really don't want, and let the others spend their salary cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huthut 0 Posted July 4, 2010 I feel there is a drop off past 4/5, but then past 7 there is a HUGE drop off. Here are my views of the first picks: 1, 2: AP or CJ 3, 4: MJD or Rice 5: Gore 6, 7: Turner or Andre Johnson 8-30: a bunch of question marks that are pretty much interchangeable I hope I am in the top 4, and I really hope I am in the top 7. Who is worth a first round pick past 7? I often see people like Mendenhall, but I had him last year so I kept track of his stats, and he just seems like a mediocre RB. I would draft him in the 3rd or 4th round maybe, but I don't feel like he has the talent to use a pick that high. Fitzgerald without Boldin and Warner? Steven Jackson? He is a good player, but he is still on the rams, maybe a 3rd round pick, not a first. I will probably end up getting Brees or something. This year the picks feel weird, there are very few great players, but a ton of average players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidbostonisgood 2 Posted July 4, 2010 I prefer the 10 spot this year. It offers variability. I'm not locked into a structured set pre-draft route there. I can go many different ways at this spot. I can go RB/QB/or WR in the first round. It is the best spot to find trading partners in the mid to late rounds for obvious reasons. If you are a savvy fantasy veteran who has studied up and knows the finer nuances of the game, the 10 spot is where you want to be. If you've only been playing for 4 or 5 years and aren't grizzled yet, it's probably best for you to take one of the top 5 picks to get one of those high RB's and then just take the best available when it swings to you in rounds 2 and 3. If you are the master of mind games, knowing everything about your oponents, etc., then the 10 spot is the best. Another reason why the 10 spot is the best is that it is one of the better spots to start (or be the #2 man in line to start) runs on a position, or fear. The only tricky part about drafting from the 10 spot is in rounds 7 and 8. If you know what you are doing in those rounds, you'll be breaking people at this point. It's a position of quiet subtle domination and power. Flip the table on them early, and drive down the bolts late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston Three Party 6 Posted July 4, 2010 1-4. But 1 or 2. ADP or CJIII. Come back around, I'll take Rhoddy or DJax. (Love how Rhoddy STILL goes end of 2nd) 3rd round, I'll nab another RB and let it come back around and take Vernon. (Since everyone seems to LOVE Gates before him) At least that's how the mocks are going, but I see taking Vernon or Dallas as a must this year. I can't have another Greg Olsen year. I CAN however, have a Kevin Kolb/Brett Favre as my starter backed up by Eli/Big Ben year. Because that will seal the deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidbostonisgood 2 Posted July 4, 2010 1-4. But 1 or 2. ADP or CJIII. Come back around, I'll take Rhoddy or DJax. (Love how Rhoddy STILL goes end of 2nd) 3rd round, I'll nab another RB and let it come back around and take Vernon. (Since everyone seems to LOVE Gates before him) At least that's how the mocks are going, but I see taking Vernon or Dallas as a must this year. I can't have another Greg Olsen year. I CAN however, have a Kevin Kolb/Brett Favre as my starter backed up by Eli/Big Ben year. Because that will seal the deal. How about a Kevin Boss year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boston Three Party 6 Posted July 4, 2010 How about a Kevin Boss year? Oh hell no. I'd rather draft Keller from the Jets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdm_1971 0 Posted July 4, 2010 I prefer the 10 spot this year. It offers variability. I'm not locked into a structured set pre-draft route there. I can go many different ways at this spot. I can go RB/QB/or WR in the first round. It is the best spot to find trading partners in the mid to late rounds for obvious reasons. If you are a savvy fantasy veteran who has studied up and knows the finer nuances of the game, the 10 spot is where you want to be. If you've only been playing for 4 or 5 years and aren't grizzled yet, it's probably best for you to take one of the top 5 picks to get one of those high RB's and then just take the best available when it swings to you in rounds 2 and 3. If you are the master of mind games, knowing everything about your oponents, etc., then the 10 spot is the best. Another reason why the 10 spot is the best is that it is one of the better spots to start (or be the #2 man in line to start) runs on a position, or fear. The only tricky part about drafting from the 10 spot is in rounds 7 and 8. If you know what you are doing in those rounds, you'll be breaking people at this point. It's a position of quiet subtle domination and power. Flip the table on them early, and drive down the bolts late. LOL......ok the 10th is the best you sold everybody.....come on man i have been doing this a long time and everybody has their thoughts about a spot....i like the 10-12 spot normally but this year i have to say the place to be is 1-4 the rbs drop off and you are still going to get a solid #1 wrs coming back...in the 10th spot our going to get a top tier wr or a 2nd -3rd tier rb.. but it comes down to personal prefrance bro...as a vet you should know it is strategy and sticking to your strategy and not buying into runs that determine how your draft turns out.....strategy bro thats what a draft comes down too.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PATSSOX 22 Posted July 8, 2010 LOL......ok the 10th is the best you sold everybody.....come on man i have been doing this a long time and everybody has their thoughts about a spot....i like the 10-12 spot normally but this year i have to say the place to be is 1-4 the rbs drop off and you are still going to get a solid #1 wrs coming back...in the 10th spot our going to get a top tier wr or a 2nd -3rd tier rb.. but it comes down to personal prefrance bro...as a vet you should know it is strategy and sticking to your strategy and not buying into runs that determine how your draft turns out.....strategy bro thats what a draft comes down too.... Yes im with you on most of your post. I usually like the end of draft so i can grab 2 really solid players but this year i really would like one of the top 4 spots. Actually ill take CJ but would love to have #2 and the CJ went #1 so i could take AP's fumblin arse. No more Chester in Minnesota so if its possible AP should get more love. Im gonna grab WR with one of first 2 picks just depending on where i fall probably. There are about 12-15 good WR then the rest are hit or miss. But there will always be atleast 2 very good WRs to grab off waiver wire.(like Miles and MSW last year) The part i dont agree with is the amount of times you said "bro". About 2 too many times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaTick 30 Posted July 13, 2010 Assuming serpentine I like the ends, purely from a I don't have to pay attention and be disappointed throughout the draft pov. Also I find it easier to plan for a pick ahead at the ends. So therefore I would rather be 1 or 2 away from the end or at the end than in the middle. In a 10 team league I would rather be 2 or 9, then 3 or 8 and then 1 or 10. Prefer not to be 4-7, I find it hard to float a player through. Floating a player does require knowing the tendencies of the teams in between your picks. But if you know them, you may be able to float a higher ranked but undesirable though and get better value with both picks. IE you want a QB, but others have picked one already or won't this early, you float it through and take what you want that you know they will likely take. This equate to happiness and much joy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,795 Posted July 13, 2010 Statistically, the best spot in a serpentine is #1; just look at a draft value calculator to see why. To use extremes and compare with the last drafter: you have the best picks in rounds 1, 3, 5, ... he has them in 2, 4, 6, ... Where this breaks down is if you believe that the first X players are completely equal. If, as has been mentioned in this thread, you believe that there is no difference in the first 4 players, the best position is #4, as the above calculator holds true for later picks, but you would start comparing value in the 2nd round with respect to the first 3 drafters. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites